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I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can.
To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. yeah. Bung it in. -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun". |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. Is it petrol? Are you sure? Not red diesel? Bill |
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On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. -- Jeff |
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On 22/03/2019 20:14, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. Just how long ago was leaded on sale? It is leaded, perhaps it should be better given to a museum? |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. have a wee fire to yourself ...should help nicely ..... -- Ask your doctor if medical advice from a TV advert or brian reay is right for you What if the hokey cokey IS what it is all about ? Life is too short to wait for windows 10 updates Halal intolerant |
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I wouldn't waste my time taking a litre of fuel to a recycle unit. What do you hope to achieve?
At the very worst you can wash oil based paint brushes out with it or save it for future use. |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy |
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On Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53:08 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy +1 fwiw |
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On 22/03/19 20:32, Fredxx wrote:
On 22/03/2019 20:14, Jeff Layman wrote: On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. Just how long ago was leaded on sale? It is leaded, perhaps it should be better given to a museum? Evidently if was withdrawn from sale in 2000. I'm pretty sure I've got bottles and other containers in the garage a /lot/ older than that! The OP didn't say how old his fuel was. -- Jeff |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I wouldn't risk it if you don't know what it is - it could be diesel or paraffin. If it's 2-stroke mix, your engine might not like the oil in it - even diluted, as it will be. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 22/03/2019 22:51, Roger Mills wrote:
I wouldn't risk it if you don't know what it is - it could be diesel or paraffin. If it's 2-stroke mix, your engine might not like the oil in it - even diluted, as it will be. It is petrol I just dont know if oil was added to make the 2 stroke mixture although the reddish colour tends to say it was. The dilution to the car will be approx 1 litre to 32 litres of petrol. Of which only a fiftieth of the litre would be oil. |
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![]() "Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... On 22/03/19 20:32, Fredxx wrote: On 22/03/2019 20:14, Jeff Layman wrote: On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. Just how long ago was leaded on sale? It is leaded, perhaps it should be better given to a museum? Evidently if was withdrawn from sale in 2000. I'm pretty sure I've got bottles and other containers in the garage a /lot/ older than that! I know I have two full jerrycans of petrol MUCH older than that. The OP didn't say how old his fuel was. |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. As the saying goes, there's no fuel like an old fuel. |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. the things some people worry about ..... |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. Tip it in the tank of a diesel car (owned by someone who has annoyed you). |
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On 22/03/2019 22:25, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/03/19 20:32, Fredxx wrote: On 22/03/2019 20:14, Jeff Layman wrote: On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. Just how long ago was leaded on sale? It is leaded, perhaps it should be better given to a museum? Evidently if was withdrawn from sale in 2000. I'm pretty sure I've got bottles and other containers in the garage a /lot/ older than that! The OP didn't say how old his fuel was. AVgas still available ?? |
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On 23/03/2019 07:48, Andrew wrote:
On 22/03/2019 22:05, wrote: On Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53:08 UTC, Vir CampestrisÂ* wrote: On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy +1 fwiw Neighbour has just spent 3 hours trying to start his petrol lawnmower (4-stroke briggs & stratton) after he forgot to drain out the tank last autumn. Ive started lawnmower up to 2 yeras in stoirage same fuel. Likewas motorhome. Not optimal, but works Or tip ina few liters of fresh -- €śIt is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.€ť €• Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV |
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Andrew wrote:
On 22/03/2019 22:05, wrote: On Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53:08 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote: On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy +1 fwiw Neighbour has just spent 3 hours trying to start his petrol lawnmower (4-stroke briggs & stratton) after he forgot to drain out the tank last autumn. I have *never* drained the fuel from my B&S lawnmower at the end of the season and it has always started in the spring with a couple of extra pulls. Been doing this for at least 20 years now. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:48:46 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 22/03/2019 22:05, wrote: On Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53:08 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote: On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy +1 fwiw Neighbour has just spent 3 hours trying to start his petrol lawnmower (4-stroke briggs & stratton) after he forgot to drain out the tank last autumn. Should have drained it down & made sure no fuel in carburetor. The volatiles added to aid starting have evaporated off. Petrol should be stored in a closed container (gas tight)to stop this from happening |
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Does that not depend on the way it dilutes in the tank though?
Give it to a local firm of gardeners. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. -- Jeff |
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:03:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: I know I have two full jerrycans of petrol MUCH older than that. Oh, **** ...and this little thread was Rot-free, so far! tsk -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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, Tim+ writes Andrew wrote: On 22/03/2019 22:05, wrote: On Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53:08 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote: On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy +1 fwiw Neighbour has just spent 3 hours trying to start his petrol lawnmower (4-stroke briggs & stratton) after he forgot to drain out the tank last autumn. I have *never* drained the fuel from my B&S lawnmower at the end of the season and it has always started in the spring with a couple of extra pulls. Been doing this for at least 20 years now. Likewise. Chainsaws can need a carb clean but not always. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 23/03/2019 08:15, Tim+ wrote:
Andrew wrote: On 22/03/2019 22:05, wrote: On Friday, 22 March 2019 21:53:08 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote: On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I'd prefer to feed it to a lawnmower or such rather than my car. Andy +1 fwiw Neighbour has just spent 3 hours trying to start his petrol lawnmower (4-stroke briggs & stratton) after he forgot to drain out the tank last autumn. I have *never* drained the fuel from my B&S lawnmower at the end of the season and it has always started in the spring with a couple of extra pulls. Been doing this for at least 20 years now. Tim I always drain the fuel from garden machinery before the winter or other period of little use. There is an aditive you can buy to make starting easier after prolonged inactivity. Getting rid of old fuel is more of a problem now that both are cars are diesel. Fortunately my modern grass cutters do start much more easily than the old ones. Maybe some sot of electronic ignition. -- Michael Chare |
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On 22/03/2019 22:25, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/03/19 20:32, Fredxx wrote: On 22/03/2019 20:14, Jeff Layman wrote: On 22/03/19 17:59, ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. If it's leaded it will do your catalytic converter no good at all. Just how long ago was leaded on sale? It is leaded, perhaps it should be better given to a museum? Evidently if was withdrawn from sale in 2000. I'm pretty sure I've got bottles and other containers in the garage a /lot/ older than that! Saving them for a riot that never happened? -- Adam |
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On 23/03/2019 09:27, Michael Chare wrote:
I always drain the fuel from garden machinery before the winter or other period of little use. There is an aditive you can buy to make starting easier after prolonged inactivity.Â* Getting rid of old fuel is more of a problem now that both are cars are diesel. Fortunately my modern grass cutters do start much more easily than the old ones. Maybe some sot of electronic ignition. I never drain the fuel -- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered... ....than to have answers that cannot be questioned Richard Feynman |
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Tim+ formulated the question :
I have *never* drained the fuel from my B&S lawnmower at the end of the season and it has always started in the spring with a couple of extra pulls. Been doing this for at least 20 years now. Same here with my B&S powered lawn tractor. I ran it for the first time a couple of weeks ago to cut grass, then again yesterday. Started at the first attempt, as I have come to expect. |
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On Saturday, 23 March 2019 09:27:41 UTC, Michael Chare wrote:
I always drain the fuel from garden machinery before the winter or other period of little use. There is an aditive you can buy to make starting easier after prolonged inactivity. Getting rid of old fuel is more of a problem now that both are cars are diesel. Fortunately my modern grass cutters do start much more easily than the old ones. Maybe some sot of electronic ignition. It used to be common practice to put a little petrol in diesel vehicles in winter. NT |
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ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix# Do you not know what the engine is that it was used for? as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. Chuck it on a bonfire (without setting yourself alight). |
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 08:11:14 +0000
The Natural Philosopher wrote: Ive started lawnmower up to 2 yeras in stoirage same fuel. Likewas motorhome. Probably depends on how hot your shed gets. |
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On 23/03/2019 17:55, Rob Morley wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:59:47 +0000 ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix# Do you not know what the engine is that it was used for? as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. Chuck it on a bonfire (without setting yourself alight). Almost impossible IMBE -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?" |
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On 23/03/2019 18:50, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/03/2019 17:55, Rob Morley wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:59:47 +0000 ss wrote: I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix# Do you not know what the engine is that it was used for? as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. Chuck it on a bonfire (without setting yourself alight). Almost impossible IMBE The flame goes up the stream of fuel faster than it falls down. So you'd be holding a flaming container in what would be left of your hand. Good slow motion demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSILpFf_no0 -- Andrew |
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On 23/03/2019 07:48, Andrew wrote:
Neighbour has just spent 3 hours trying to start his petrol lawnmower (4-stroke briggs & stratton) after he forgot to drain out the tank last autumn. My Honda started 2nd pull... OTOH it's been in a warm dry garage all winter, and it's only 3 years old. Andy |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 11:02:16 +0000
Andrew Gabriel wrote: Good slow motion demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSILpFf_no0 That's why you use an open container (mug, paint kettle) and chuck it rather than pouring it. |
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Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 11:02:16 +0000 Andrew Gabriel wrote: Good slow motion demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSILpFf_no0 That's why you use an open container (mug, paint kettle) and chuck it rather than pouring it. I think that lies on the spectrum somewhere twixt €śexceedingly brave€ť and €śexceedingly foolish€ť. At no point is it a good idea. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 25 Mar 2019 17:56:07 GMT
Tim+ wrote: Rob Morley wrote: That's why you use an open container (mug, paint kettle) and chuck it rather than pouring it. I think that lies on the spectrum somewhere twixt €śexceedingly brave€ť and €śexceedingly foolish€ť. At no point is it a good idea. I agree that as a general rule it's something you just shouldn't do unless you're wearing appropriate flame protection, and have someone standing by with an extinguisher, but I seem to have got away with it on multiple occasions. Someone should do a video demonstrating what you can get away with and what you really shouldn't try. Maybe petrol vapour vs. garden shed would be fun too. :-) |
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On 25/03/2019 19:52, Rob Morley wrote:
On 25 Mar 2019 17:56:07 GMT Tim+ wrote: Rob Morley wrote: That's why you use an open container (mug, paint kettle) and chuck it rather than pouring it. I think that lies on the spectrum somewhere twixt €śexceedingly brave€ť and €śexceedingly foolish€ť. At no point is it a good idea. I agree that as a general rule it's something you just shouldn't do unless you're wearing appropriate flame protection, and have someone standing by with an extinguisher, but I seem to have got away with it on multiple occasions. Someone should do a video demonstrating what you can get away with and what you really shouldn't try. Maybe petrol vapour vs. garden shed would be fun too. :-) Go on then. Waiting patiently for video... |
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Rob Morley wrote:
Someone should do a video demonstrating what you can get away with and what you really shouldn't try. The best redneck vs petrol videos involve pouring lots of it over your bonfire, then giving the vapour plenty of time to spread (while you put the can back in the shed, fetch your lighter, swig your beer etc) before lighting it up, e.g. https://youtu.be/UH4Hw9s8OAM |
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On 22/03/2019 17:59, ss wrote:
I have some old fuel (approx 1 x litre) in a can. To avoid the hassle of going to a recycle place would I be ok to shove it my petrol car when I have a full tank. The litre is possibly 2 stroke mix as it has a reddish tinge, its leftovers from a small generator. I would only use it in a lawnmower or similar. No need to go to a disposal place, stick it in the garden in a shallow open tray and let it evaporate. |
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