With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?





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With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to text
systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as I
am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?




Back in the day Dragon Naturally Speaking was thought to be the Bees Knees -
that was a few years ago though.

Andrew

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With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to text
systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as I
am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.

Has anyone else been down this road?

Back in the day Dragon Naturally Speaking was thought to be the Bees Knees -
that was a few years ago though.

My machine comes with support for dictation built in. Works for any app
that supports it. So no third party app needed.


But does it work for intensive use?
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On 11/02/18 09:06, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andrew Mawson
wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher"Â* wrote in message
news

With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing
as I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a
contender.

Has anyone else been down this road?

Back in the day Dragon Naturally Speaking was thought to be the Bees
Knees - that was a few years ago though.

My machine comes with support for dictation built in. Works for any app
that supports it. So no third party app needed.

so does mine. For 40 seconds


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On 11/02/18 09:43, Tim Streater wrote:
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Tim Streater Wrote in message:
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wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher"Â* wrote in message
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With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech
to text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio
typing as I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a
contender.

Has anyone else been down this road?

Back in the day Dragon Naturally Speaking was thought to be the Bees
Knees - that was a few years ago though.

My machine comes with support for dictation built in. Works for any app
that supports it. So no third party app needed.

But does it work for intensive use?

No idea. I have no particular need for it so haven't tried it beyond
using a couple of times to see how well it worked.


Well yes, IO was after feedback from people who had iused it
extensively, to write books...or prepare lengthy reports.


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Tim Streater Wrote in message:
In article , Andrew Mawson
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to text
systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as I
am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.

Has anyone else been down this road?

Back in the day Dragon Naturally Speaking was thought to be the Bees Knees -
that was a few years ago though.

My machine comes with support for dictation built in. Works for any app
that supports it. So no third party app needed.

But does it work for intensive use?

No idea. I have no particular need for it so haven't tried it beyond
using a couple of times to see how well it worked.


You didn't read the OP then....

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:10:26 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:



Well yes, IO was after feedback from people who had iused it
extensively, to write books...or prepare lengthy reports.


I used Dragon Naturally Speaking about 5 years ago and the system
built into Google Docs/Chrome ( Voice Typing) more recently.Dragon was
to try to use for producing procedure manuals which were quite
lengthy. Voice Typing was for regular non technical text.

Voice recognition is something which is very processor intensive but
it hasn't really advanced as much as everyone thought it would despite
processor performance improving.

On all the systems I have tried one universal requirement is for a
very good microphone and careful positioning. The best was a passive
noise canceling microphone from a Nokia car kit held about one inch to
the side of my mouth so no impulse noise. The microphone was used
with a home made "Madonna microphone" band to keep the microphone
secure and stable. The Nokia microphone is a simple small one but
optimised for speech and good at noise canceling (it came from the
days when Nokia knew what they were doing). I think I still have a
few left over so if you want one let me know.

As for the software Dragon worked quite well and benefited
considerably from time spent training it to your voice. A disabled
colleague who used it all day both for control and writing had a very
low error rate.

Google Voice Typing I've used less but it wasn't bad (and free), it
can format text as well as recognising speech and it is easy to take
text from Google Docs into Word if you want.

Problems with both (indeed all voice recognition software) was that
they never made mistakes, or at least they never admitted it. If you
said "Tomorrow is (mumble) Thursday" and they didn't quite get it then
rather than saying "yer what?" they would find the closest word so
"Tomorrow is Teatime".

Unlike keyboard entry you can't pick up these mistakes with a spell
checker - nothing gets spelled incorrectly by speech recognition
software, its words which get changed. If you are a good proof reader
you can pick these errors up. If like me you are a lousy proof reader
- seeing what I think should be there rather than what is there - it
is a pain and the main reason I don't use voice recognition.

It can also be serious if you are writing something like a manual
where accuracy is essential.

Technical words were a particular problem and at the beginning a lot
of time had to be spent teaching Dragon new words. To be fair its
built in vocabulary is very good for normal documents but things like
Thyristor, Fast Fourier etc tended to give it indigestion.

Dragon needed a large investment of time at the beginning both to
enter technical words and to get the voice training and microphone
positioning optimised. Once you have made this investment in time it
was good. It was also expensive.

Voice Typing was for a seriously ill person so there wasn't time to do
anything more than get the microphone right and the application
working. It was being used for normal (non-technical) correspondence,
did a competent job and allowed them to write what they wanted. During
testing I was impressed by how well it worked especially for a free
application. It would be worth trying (as it is free).

With all voice recognition acting on commands is far more accurate
than handling free text. With only a handful of words to recognise
command recognition is near perfect. Free text I never measured the
error rate accurately but in a quiet room (they don't like background
noise and fan noise in particular) it was about one error per 200
words. As I said though it wasn't always easy to pick out the mistake
when it took place.

On Sunday, 11 February 2018 08:42:29 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.
This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

I've tried Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10; it's reasonably accurate for word by word recognition, but very sensitive to microphone placement (headset essential), and I doubt whether it will cope well with technical stuff. There are packages available for medical and legal users.

Cloud-based recognition might be better

These days it may be surprisingly cheap to email audio files to India or the Philippines and they come back typed for you.

The expensive option is a stenographer from comm-unique.co.uk or stenographylondon.co.uk who can transcribe speech as you watch.

Owain

On 11/02/2018 08:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?






Its built into windows 10 and google docs IIRC.
Shame he can't read this as the idiot has killfiled me.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:46:57 +0000, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 11/02/2018 08:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?


Its built into windows 10 and google docs IIRC.
Shame he can't read this as the idiot has killfiled me.

The idiot runs Linux, probably the least well supported platform for
things like this. So, he's made his bed ...

Cheers, T i m

On 11/02/18 11:58, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:10:26 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:



Well yes, IO was after feedback from people who had iused it
extensively, to write books...or prepare lengthy reports.


I used Dragon Naturally Speaking about 5 years ago and the system
built into Google Docs/Chrome ( Voice Typing) more recently.Dragon was
to try to use for producing procedure manuals which were quite
lengthy. Voice Typing was for regular non technical text.

Voice recognition is something which is very processor intensive but
it hasn't really advanced as much as everyone thought it would despite
processor performance improving.

On all the systems I have tried one universal requirement is for a
very good microphone and careful positioning. The best was a passive
noise canceling microphone from a Nokia car kit held about one inch to
the side of my mouth so no impulse noise. The microphone was used
with a home made "Madonna microphone" band to keep the microphone
secure and stable. The Nokia microphone is a simple small one but
optimised for speech and good at noise canceling (it came from the
days when Nokia knew what they were doing). I think I still have a
few left over so if you want one let me know.

As for the software Dragon worked quite well and benefited
considerably from time spent training it to your voice. A disabled
colleague who used it all day both for control and writing had a very
low error rate.

Google Voice Typing I've used less but it wasn't bad (and free), it
can format text as well as recognising speech and it is easy to take
text from Google Docs into Word if you want.

Problems with both (indeed all voice recognition software) was that
they never made mistakes, or at least they never admitted it. If you
said "Tomorrow is (mumble) Thursday" and they didn't quite get it then
rather than saying "yer what?" they would find the closest word so
"Tomorrow is Teatime".

Unlike keyboard entry you can't pick up these mistakes with a spell
checker - nothing gets spelled incorrectly by speech recognition
software, its words which get changed. If you are a good proof reader
you can pick these errors up. If like me you are a lousy proof reader
- seeing what I think should be there rather than what is there - it
is a pain and the main reason I don't use voice recognition.

It can also be serious if you are writing something like a manual
where accuracy is essential.

Technical words were a particular problem and at the beginning a lot
of time had to be spent teaching Dragon new words. To be fair its
built in vocabulary is very good for normal documents but things like
Thyristor, Fast Fourier etc tended to give it indigestion.

Dragon needed a large investment of time at the beginning both to
enter technical words and to get the voice training and microphone
positioning optimised. Once you have made this investment in time it
was good. It was also expensive.

Voice Typing was for a seriously ill person so there wasn't time to do
anything more than get the microphone right and the application
working. It was being used for normal (non-technical) correspondence,
did a competent job and allowed them to write what they wanted. During
testing I was impressed by how well it worked especially for a free
application. It would be worth trying (as it is free).

With all voice recognition acting on commands is far more accurate
than handling free text. With only a handful of words to recognise
command recognition is near perfect. Free text I never measured the
error rate accurately but in a quiet room (they don't like background
noise and fan noise in particular) it was about one error per 200
words. As I said though it wasn't always easy to pick out the mistake
when it took place.

Thank you Peter, that is most valuable feedback


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In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus
With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?





The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Peter Parry
scribeth thus
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:10:26 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:



Snip..

Technical words were a particular problem and at the beginning a lot
of time had to be spent teaching Dragon new words. To be fair its
built in vocabulary is very good for normal documents but things like


Thyristor, Fast Fourier etc tended to give it indigestion.


Just tried those on me Moto 3 smart phone got them tight first time



Dragon needed a large investment of time at the beginning both to
enter technical words and to get the voice training and microphone
positioning optimised. Once you have made this investment in time it
was good. It was also expensive.

Voice Typing was for a seriously ill person so there wasn't time to do
anything more than get the microphone right and the application
working. It was being used for normal (non-technical) correspondence,
did a competent job and allowed them to write what they wanted. During
testing I was impressed by how well it worked especially for a free
application. It would be worth trying (as it is free).

With all voice recognition acting on commands is far more accurate
than handling free text. With only a handful of words to recognise
command recognition is near perfect. Free text I never measured the
error rate accurately but in a quiet room (they don't like background
noise and fan noise in particular) it was about one error per 200
words. As I said though it wasn't always easy to pick out the mistake
when it took place.


--
Tony Sayer

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:51:58 +0000
T i m wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:46:57 +0000, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 11/02/2018 08:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[...]

Its built into windows 10 and google docs IIRC.
Shame he can't read this as the idiot has killfiled me.

The idiot runs Linux, probably the least well supported platform for
things like this. So, he's made his bed ...

Compatibility libraries and virtual machines make this a fairly
pointless comment.

On 11/02/2018 09:01, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher"Â* wrote in message
news

With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing
as I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a
contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?




Back in the day Dragon Naturally Speaking was thought to be the Bees
Knees - that was a few years ago though.

Andrew

A translator friend of mine swears by Dragon, but I don't know exactly
which version.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:15:25 +0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:51:58 +0000
T i m wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:46:57 +0000, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 11/02/2018 08:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[...]

Its built into windows 10 and google docs IIRC.
Shame he can't read this as the idiot has killfiled me.

The idiot runs Linux, probably the least well supported platform for
things like this. So, he's made his bed ...

Compatibility libraries and virtual machines make this a fairly
pointless comment.

Sure, if you are a geek.

For those who just want to install something current, supported and
likely to work OOTB ... and have it work well and easily (on a PC),
Linux is *not* the best choice.

https://www.lifewire.com/state-of-li...nition-2204883

As it happens, I think TNP already has Windows on bare iron to do the
things Linux can't, so he could be ok, especially if the CPU hit
running Windows in a VM makes that option unreliable.

Cheers, T i m

Huge wrote:

snipped

From the brief play I've had, the Macintosh stuff is OK. But it does mean
you have to buy a Mac. (
God forbid I should sell the Mac short, but I do find the voice
recognition typing to be fairly poor. I try it again after every
software update in the hope it's improved, but not yet. I should stick
to Dragon if I were you and Dragon works OK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech...ware_for_Linux
pfj

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Yes I can also confirm all of that. I never dictate, only eve r use the echo
for commands and simple stuff.
The Apple dictate a text can leave one amused.
Take, feeling better, but leftme with a nasty chesty cough Actually came
out in text as left me with a nasty testicle.
So be careful out there!
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 11/02/18 11:58, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:10:26 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:



Well yes, IO was after feedback from people who had iused it
extensively, to write books...or prepare lengthy reports.


I used Dragon Naturally Speaking about 5 years ago and the system
built into Google Docs/Chrome ( Voice Typing) more recently.Dragon was
to try to use for producing procedure manuals which were quite
lengthy. Voice Typing was for regular non technical text.

Voice recognition is something which is very processor intensive but
it hasn't really advanced as much as everyone thought it would despite
processor performance improving.

On all the systems I have tried one universal requirement is for a
very good microphone and careful positioning. The best was a passive
noise canceling microphone from a Nokia car kit held about one inch to
the side of my mouth so no impulse noise. The microphone was used
with a home made "Madonna microphone" band to keep the microphone
secure and stable. The Nokia microphone is a simple small one but
optimised for speech and good at noise canceling (it came from the
days when Nokia knew what they were doing). I think I still have a
few left over so if you want one let me know.

As for the software Dragon worked quite well and benefited
considerably from time spent training it to your voice. A disabled
colleague who used it all day both for control and writing had a very
low error rate.

Google Voice Typing I've used less but it wasn't bad (and free), it
can format text as well as recognising speech and it is easy to take
text from Google Docs into Word if you want.

Problems with both (indeed all voice recognition software) was that
they never made mistakes, or at least they never admitted it. If you
said "Tomorrow is (mumble) Thursday" and they didn't quite get it then
rather than saying "yer what?" they would find the closest word so
"Tomorrow is Teatime".

Unlike keyboard entry you can't pick up these mistakes with a spell
checker - nothing gets spelled incorrectly by speech recognition
software, its words which get changed. If you are a good proof reader
you can pick these errors up. If like me you are a lousy proof reader
- seeing what I think should be there rather than what is there - it
is a pain and the main reason I don't use voice recognition.

It can also be serious if you are writing something like a manual
where accuracy is essential.

Technical words were a particular problem and at the beginning a lot
of time had to be spent teaching Dragon new words. To be fair its
built in vocabulary is very good for normal documents but things like
Thyristor, Fast Fourier etc tended to give it indigestion.

Dragon needed a large investment of time at the beginning both to
enter technical words and to get the voice training and microphone
positioning optimised. Once you have made this investment in time it
was good. It was also expensive.

Voice Typing was for a seriously ill person so there wasn't time to do
anything more than get the microphone right and the application
working. It was being used for normal (non-technical) correspondence,
did a competent job and allowed them to write what they wanted. During
testing I was impressed by how well it worked especially for a free
application. It would be worth trying (as it is free).

With all voice recognition acting on commands is far more accurate
than handling free text. With only a handful of words to recognise
command recognition is near perfect. Free text I never measured the
error rate accurately but in a quiet room (they don't like background
noise and fan noise in particular) it was about one error per 200
words. As I said though it wasn't always easy to pick out the mistake
when it took place.

Thank you Peter, that is most valuable feedback


--
Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:42:26 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a
contender.

I have a sneaky feeling that some of these systems need a 'net
connection and the real work of conversion is done in the cloud. Any
NDA's involved? Just a heads up.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 11/02/2018 08:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
With eyes and fingers not what they were, I am looking into speech to
text systems.

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a contender.



Has anyone else been down this road?


Just tried using the built in dictation on a Mac (press the Fn key
twice) - worked perfectly. I'd guess Windows has similar.


--
Cheers, Rob

On 12/02/18 10:56, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:42:26 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

This is not 'simple commands' - I want fill novel length audio typing as
I am working on several books. and technical papers.

So far it looks at though 'Dragon Anywhere' on android may be a
contender.

I have a sneaky feeling that some of these systems need a 'net
connection and the real work of conversion is done in the cloud. Any
NDA's involved? Just a heads up.

Yeo. Its either make a windows VM and buy dekstop dragon, or use teh
cloud and 'dragon anywhere'.

But that's no big deal as that smartphone is when at home permanently
wifi-ed

And can be takene where its conveninet for dictation


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diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

On 11/02/2018 17:32, tony sayer wrote:


The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself

Which model? Can't immediately find it on my Moto G2. What do I need to
look for?
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Roger
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scribeth thus
On 11/02/2018 17:32, tony sayer wrote:


The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself

Which model? Can't immediately find it on my Moto G2. What do I need to
look for?


Where you send a message theirs the bit that says type message then
theres a microphone symbol hit that then it says speak now speak and the
words appear on the screen..


--
Tony Sayer

On 12 Feb 2018 11:08:07 GMT
Huge wrote:

Indeed, I've never worked out how to make it do punctuation, rather
than having it, for example, spell out "comma".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4MhcWImGkM

On 12 Feb 2018 11:03:22 GMT, Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-11, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:51:58 +0000
T i m wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:46:57 +0000, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 11/02/2018 08:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[...]

Its built into windows 10 and google docs IIRC.
Shame he can't read this as the idiot has killfiled me.

The idiot runs Linux, probably the least well supported platform for
things like this. So, he's made his bed ...

Compatibility libraries and virtual machines make this a fairly
pointless comment.

*Everything* "D i m" posts is pointless.

How's that cowardly killfile working out for you then, considering you
are effectively replying to another post of mine?

Fact. Voice recognition on Linux is sh1te and TNP uses Linux. Why
would that statement be any less relevant than a vast number of posts
people make here (and considering TNP advocates Linux and disses
Windows all the time, even though he has to use Windows for the very
sort of reason I stated (it's still Windows even if in a VM))? shrug

Cheers, T i m

On 12/02/2018 23:38, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 11/02/2018 17:32, tony sayer wrote:


The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself

Which model? Can't immediately find it on my Moto G2. What do I need to
look for?


Where you send a message theirs the bit that says type message then
theres a microphone symbol hit that then it says speak now speak and the
words appear on the screen..



Ta! It sort of works, but would need a bit of editing the other end.
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Roger
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On 13/02/2018 03:56, Rob Morley wrote:
On 12 Feb 2018 11:08:07 GMT
wrote:

Indeed, I've never worked out how to make it do punctuation, rather
than having it, for example, spell out "comma".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4MhcWImGkM

Hilarious - but I have seen it before. I'm almost tempted to play it
into my phone to see how text to speech deals with it.
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:30:09 +0000
T i m wrote:

Fact. Voice recognition on Linux is sh1te and TNP uses Linux. Why
would that statement be any less relevant than a vast number of posts
people make here (and considering TNP advocates Linux and disses
Windows all the time, even though he has to use Windows for the very
sort of reason I stated (it's still Windows even if in a VM))? shrug

He may choose to use Windows for a particular application because some
developers of Windows software decide not to offer their products for
Linux. That's hardly an indication that Linux is bad or Windows is
good. I have no experience of speech recognition software in any
environment (although ISTR picking up a copy of Dragon NS a while ago
with some other stuff), I shall add it to the bottom of my list of
things to do, and get back to you.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:56:56 +0000
Roger Mills wrote:

On 13/02/2018 03:56, Rob Morley wrote:
On 12 Feb 2018 11:08:07 GMT
wrote:

[...]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4MhcWImGkM

Hilarious - but I have seen it before.

I expect many people have, but perhaps not recently.

I'm almost tempted to play it
into my phone to see how text to speech deals with it.

Background noise.

On 13/02/18 18:09, Rob Morley wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:30:09 +0000
T i m wrote:

Fact. Voice recognition on Linux is sh1te and TNP uses Linux. Why
would that statement be any less relevant than a vast number of posts
people make here (and considering TNP advocates Linux and disses
Windows all the time, even though he has to use Windows for the very
sort of reason I stated (it's still Windows even if in a VM))? shrug

He may choose to use Windows for a particular application because some
developers of Windows software decide not to offer their products for
Linux. That's hardly an indication that Linux is bad or Windows is
good. I have no experience of speech recognition software in any
environment (although ISTR picking up a copy of Dragon NS a while ago
with some other stuff), I shall add it to the bottom of my list of
things to do, and get back to you.

I will be using it on android linux instead


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On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:09:38 +0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:30:09 +0000
T i m wrote:

Fact. Voice recognition on Linux is sh1te and TNP uses Linux. Why
would that statement be any less relevant than a vast number of posts
people make here (and considering TNP advocates Linux and disses
Windows all the time, even though he has to use Windows for the very
sort of reason I stated (it's still Windows even if in a VM))? shrug

He may choose to use Windows for a particular application because some
developers of Windows software decide not to offer their products for
Linux.

Not really 'a choice' then is it Rob? It's more like 'going without'.
See, 'most people' have no interest in the OS outside of it doing what
they want and you don't need to look very far to find out that for
'most people', Windows will do more than OSX or Linux for them. That
stands to reason when it's the incumbent / de facto standard OS of the
world. (And doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon).

https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

That's hardly an indication that Linux is bad or Windows is
good.

I never even hinted at such a thing? I was using Ubuntu earlier ...

I have no experience of speech recognition software in any
environment (although ISTR picking up a copy of Dragon NS a while ago
with some other stuff),

I have and was actually doing some earlier. ;-)

I shall add it to the bottom of my list of
things to do, and get back to you.

Please do(n't). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

In article , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 12/02/2018 23:38, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 11/02/2018 17:32, tony sayer wrote:


The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself

Which model? Can't immediately find it on my Moto G2. What do I need to
look for?


Where you send a message theirs the bit that says type message then
theres a microphone symbol hit that then it says speak now speak and the
words appear on the screen..



Ta! It sort of works, but would need a bit of editing the other end.

It seems to me that after a while - it gets to know your voice better!..
--
Tony Sayer

On 13/02/2018 22:01, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 12/02/2018 23:38, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 11/02/2018 17:32, tony sayer wrote:


The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself

Which model? Can't immediately find it on my Moto G2. What do I need to
look for?


Where you send a message theirs the bit that says type message then
theres a microphone symbol hit that then it says speak now speak and the
words appear on the screen..



Ta! It sort of works, but would need a bit of editing the other end.

It seems to me that after a while - it gets to know your voice better!..

Is that still true if you don't correct it on the recording device?

I would envisage recording it on the phone and emailing whatever it
produced to a PC, where it's much easier to edit/correct it.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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On 13/02/18 22:29, Roger Mills wrote:
I would envisage recording it on the phone and emailing whatever it
produced to a PC, where it's much easier to edit/correct it.

Yes: for me that seems to be the way to do it.

editing on a screen the size of a piece of toilet paper is not ideal


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On 14/02/2018 06:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/02/18 22:29, Roger Mills wrote:
I would envisage recording it on the phone and emailing whatever it
produced to a PC, where it's much easier to edit/correct it.

Yes: for me that seems to be the way to do it.

editing on a screen the size of a piece of toilet paper is not ideal



Indeed. But what I'm not sure about is how the phone can adapt to your
voice if there's no way of telling it what it got right and wrong.
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On 14/02/18 12:21, Roger Mills wrote:
On 14/02/2018 06:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/02/18 22:29, Roger Mills wrote:
I would envisage recording it on the phone and emailing whatever it
produced to a PC, where it's much easier to edit/correct it.

Yes: for me that seems to be the way to do it.

editing on a screen the size of a piece of toilet paper is not ideal



Indeed. But what I'm not sure about is how the phone can adapt to your
voice if there's no way of telling it what it got right and wrong.

Well that will need some fiddling, yes.



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more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
battle dance and dream of glory €¦ The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

In article , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 13/02/2018 22:01, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 12/02/2018 23:38, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Mills
scribeth thus
On 11/02/2018 17:32, tony sayer wrote:


The trusty Moto G phone has an excellent speech to text facility simply
dictate it then mail it to yourself

Which model? Can't immediately find it on my Moto G2. What do I need to
look for?


Where you send a message theirs the bit that says type message then
theres a microphone symbol hit that then it says speak now speak and the
words appear on the screen..



Ta! It sort of works, but would need a bit of editing the other end.

It seems to me that after a while - it gets to know your voice better!..

Is that still true if you don't correct it on the recording device?

Well you can correct it but these days theres very little to correct!..


I would envisage recording it on the phone and emailing whatever it
produced to a PC, where it's much easier to edit/correct it.

Thats just what I do..
--
Tony Sayer