Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:25:53 +0100, Malcolm Race wrote:

Are there any manufacturers who make wquipment in the UK?

I think our Belling hob was BICBW.

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I believe a company called Crosslee PLC produce tumble driers under the White Knight brand near Halifax.

Richard

Malcolm Race wrote:

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

https://www.ebac.com/washing-machines

And don't forget the cutting edge Dolly tubs and Washboards available
in Stoke On Trent.

AB

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:01:41 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky
wrote:

I believe a company called Crosslee PLC produce tumble driers under the White Knight brand near Halifax.

Richard

"Malcolm Race" wrote in message news

Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was told
that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers who make
wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

The only machine in the Hotpoint range that's made in the UK is their tumble
driers. Ours arrived Thursday of last week, from one of Amazon's traders via
DPD.

A few minutes into it's first drying cycle, it was clear that the cylinder
wasn't rotating. I informed Hotpoint and an engineer duly arrived. "Most
odd" said the engineer, "The belt has broken, doesn't happen often, I'll
have to order one from Bristol, where they're made".

So there's a new appointment for Thursday. You'd think he would carry a
spare belt to cover all tumble drier models? Shudder to think of the cost of
2 visits, plus 2 lots of petrol. My advice : buy foreign, unless you like
music hall farces :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc

On 29/04/2017 23:36, Bertie Doe wrote:


"Malcolm Race" wrote in message news

Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit
only white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until
she was told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any
manufacturers who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

The only machine in the Hotpoint range that's made in the UK is their
tumble driers. Ours arrived Thursday of last week, from one of Amazon's
traders via DPD.

A few minutes into it's first drying cycle, it was clear that the
cylinder wasn't rotating. I informed Hotpoint and an engineer duly
arrived. "Most odd" said the engineer, "The belt has broken, doesn't
happen often, I'll have to order one from Bristol, where they're made".

So there's a new appointment for Thursday. You'd think he would carry a
spare belt to cover all tumble drier models? Shudder to think of the
cost of 2 visits, plus 2 lots of petrol. My advice : buy foreign, unless
you like music hall farces :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc



Why carry a part if it never breaks?

On 4/29/2017 5:25 PM, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

Good luck.
I wanted to 'Buy British' when I bought my Hotpoint dual-fuel cooker.
When it arrived, I found that it had been manufactured in Poland (as was
its replacement).

S Viemeister wrote:

Malcolm Race wrote:

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK.

Good luck.
I wanted to 'Buy British' when I bought my Hotpoint dual-fuel cooker.
When it arrived, I found that it had been manufactured in Poland

http://www.stoves.co.uk/made-in-britain/

On 30/04/17 00:38, S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/29/2017 5:25 PM, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

Good luck.
I wanted to 'Buy British' when I bought my Hotpoint dual-fuel cooker.
When it arrived, I found that it had been manufactured in Poland (as was
its replacement).


I so wanted to 'Avoid Spaghetti' when I chose the last one, and so
instantly dismissed brands such as Candy, Indesit, Hotpoint, Smeg etc....

So bought John Lewis own brand, knowing that it's a badge on the German
AEG / Electrolux heritage.

Checked the label the other day. Yup, I failed. Made in Italy.

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On 30/04/2017 01:03, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 30/04/17 00:38, S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/29/2017 5:25 PM, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

Good luck.
I wanted to 'Buy British' when I bought my Hotpoint dual-fuel cooker.
When it arrived, I found that it had been manufactured in Poland (as was
its replacement).


I so wanted to 'Avoid Spaghetti' when I chose the last one, and so
instantly dismissed brands such as Candy, Indesit, Hotpoint, Smeg etc....

So bought John Lewis own brand, knowing that it's a badge on the German
AEG / Electrolux heritage.

Checked the label the other day. Yup, I failed. Made in Italy.

Merloni group own *lots* of white goods brands!


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On 29/04/2017 22:25, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK.

What's wrong with the woman?

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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On 29/04/2017 22:25, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK.

What's wrong with the woman?

She must be ****ed between the ears to have shacked up with him |-(

Interesting to see the link to EBAC. Something to bear in mind for the
future.

However, the lady needs to realise that to achieve economies and quality in
manufacturing many components will be made by Global Companies whti the
industrial processes to make things like, Electronic Componenents,
Controllers, Motors, Valves. A British "Made" will be "Assembled in Britain
from parts and sub-assemblies made eleswhere".

Not that I know of, those which claim assembled in the UK are just that,
made from bits made elsewhere a bit like kits.
I guess there could be some smaller brands that do this, but none of the
main ones seem to be able to compete using British labour costs.
Brian

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Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
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DerbyBorn wrote:

A British "Made" will be "Assembled in Britain
from parts and sub-assemblies made eleswhere".

And all the better for it. The British car industry is proof of that.

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Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and need a
spare.
We used to make TVs in this country back in the early 70s, but they needed
a live in engineer for the first couple of months.


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"Malcolm Race" wrote in message news

Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

The only machine in the Hotpoint range that's made in the UK is their
tumble driers. Ours arrived Thursday of last week, from one of Amazon's
traders via DPD.

A few minutes into it's first drying cycle, it was clear that the cylinder
wasn't rotating. I informed Hotpoint and an engineer duly arrived. "Most
odd" said the engineer, "The belt has broken, doesn't happen often, I'll
have to order one from Bristol, where they're made".

So there's a new appointment for Thursday. You'd think he would carry a
spare belt to cover all tumble drier models? Shudder to think of the cost
of 2 visits, plus 2 lots of petrol. My advice : buy foreign, unless you
like music hall farces :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc

Tricky Dicky wrote:
I believe a company called Crosslee PLC produce tumble driers under the White Knight brand near Halifax.

Richard


There's also a hot and cold fill washing machine made up north
somewhere, the name escapes me.

Bertie Doe wrote:


"Malcolm Race" wrote in message news

Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit
only white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until
she was told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any
manufacturers who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

The only machine in the Hotpoint range that's made in the UK is their
tumble driers. Ours arrived Thursday of last week, from one of Amazon's
traders via DPD.

A few minutes into it's first drying cycle, it was clear that the
cylinder wasn't rotating. I informed Hotpoint and an engineer duly
arrived. "Most odd" said the engineer, "The belt has broken, doesn't
happen often, I'll have to order one from Bristol, where they're made".

So there's a new appointment for Thursday. You'd think he would carry a
spare belt to cover all tumble drier models? Shudder to think of the
cost of 2 visits, plus 2 lots of petrol. My advice : buy foreign, unless
you like music hall farces :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc



We've had good experiences with White Knight.

Brian Gaff wrote:
He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and need a
spare.
We used to make TVs in this country back in the early 70s, but they needed
a live in engineer for the first couple of months.


Brian


That's because a lot of the market was rental and you needed to prove
to the customer that it was cheaper than buying the product. Redifusion
used to recall their sets after about 5 years and refurbish them to get
another 5 years life cheaply. The ideal fault free life was 12 months
IIRC! The Japanese buggered up the market by making reliable sets!

On 29/04/2017 23:36, Bertie Doe wrote:

I'll have to order one from Bristol, where they're made".


Probably assembled in Bristol from a set of parts shipped in from China.

Its probably much like the UK car industry where 80% of the parts for a
"UK made car" come from factories abroad.


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On 29/04/2017 23:26, Andy Burns wrote:
Malcolm Race wrote:

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

https://www.ebac.com/washing-machines

10 year warranty. Is that impressive or is there a catch (other than the
one wash a day)?

--
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In article ,
Capitol wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and need
a spare. We used to make TVs in this country back in the early 70s, but
they needed a live in engineer for the first couple of months.


Brian


That's because a lot of the market was rental and you needed to prove
to the customer that it was cheaper than buying the product. Redifusion
used to recall their sets after about 5 years and refurbish them to get
another 5 years life cheaply. The ideal fault free life was 12 months
IIRC! The Japanese buggered up the market by making reliable sets!

Like the factory at Hirwaun in south Wales, jointly owned by GEC and a
Japanese company. The product was "badge engineered", both makes coming off
the same production line. Nobody wanted to buy the "unreliable" British
make, but the Japanese one sold so well that the Japanese took over the
whole production line.

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On 30/04/2017 10:23, ARW wrote:

10 year warranty. Is that impressive or is there a catch (other than the
one wash a day)?


There's possibly a big catch buried in the Terms and Conditions:

"These warranties are only available through Ebac retailers in selected
Northern England locations during the product launch period."

Given the way their website splashes the 10 year warranty on the page
selling them without even mentioning that it is subject to T&Cs ISTM
shady at best and very possibly over the edge.

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

charles wrote:
In article ,
Capitol wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and need
a spare. We used to make TVs in this country back in the early 70s, but
they needed a live in engineer for the first couple of months.


Brian


That's because a lot of the market was rental and you needed to prove
to the customer that it was cheaper than buying the product. Redifusion
used to recall their sets after about 5 years and refurbish them to get
another 5 years life cheaply. The ideal fault free life was 12 months
IIRC! The Japanese buggered up the market by making reliable sets!

Like the factory at Hirwaun in south Wales, jointly owned by GEC and a
Japanese company. The product was "badge engineered", both makes coming off
the same production line. Nobody wanted to buy the "unreliable" British
make, but the Japanese one sold so well that the Japanese took over the
whole production line.


That was Sony IIRC Toshiba took over Bush at Plymouth.

Tricky Dicky writes:

I believe a company called Crosslee PLC produce tumble driers under
the White Knight brand near Halifax.

+1 - you beat me to it. Used to drive past their factory on the way to
work.

http://www.crosslee.co.uk/english/index.html

They have a factory shop which sells 2nds

http://www.whiteknightrange.co.uk/fa...graded-centre/

This web site is helpful:

https://ukmade.wordpress.com/tag/

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On 4/29/2017 10:25 PM, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

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Even if you can find one, you can be sure that the fill valves and level
sensor will be Italian.

In article ,
Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until she was
told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any manufacturers
who make wquipment in the UK?

In these days of globalisation, you'd be lucky to find anything like that
totally made in the UK. Possibly partially assembled. But the chances are
the oily bits will come from elsewhere.

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Scott M wrote:
DerbyBorn wrote:

A British "Made" will be "Assembled in Britain
from parts and sub-assemblies made eleswhere".

And all the better for it. The British car industry is proof of that.

Not so sure about that. Caring assembly of a car is one of the most
important bits. Something which was lacking (for many reasons) in the
heyday of the UK car industry. Rather than fundamental design flaws.

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In article , Capitol
wrote:
charles wrote:
In article , Capitol
wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and
need a spare. We used to make TVs in this country back in the early
70s, but they needed a live in engineer for the first couple of
months.


Brian


That's because a lot of the market was rental and you needed to prove
to the customer that it was cheaper than buying the product.
Redifusion used to recall their sets after about 5 years and refurbish
them to get another 5 years life cheaply. The ideal fault free life
was 12 months IIRC! The Japanese buggered up the market by making
reliable sets!

Like the factory at Hirwaun in south Wales, jointly owned by GEC and a
Japanese company. The product was "badge engineered", both makes coming
off the same production line. Nobody wanted to buy the "unreliable"
British make, but the Japanese one sold so well that the Japanese took
over the whole production line.


That was Sony IIRC Toshiba took over Bush at Plymouth.

not Sony - they were st Bridgend.

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Capitol Wrote in message:
Bertie Doe wrote:


"Malcolm Race" wrote in message news

Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit
only white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until
she was told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any
manufacturers who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

The only machine in the Hotpoint range that's made in the UK is their
tumble driers. Ours arrived Thursday of last week, from one of Amazon's
traders via DPD.

A few minutes into it's first drying cycle, it was clear that the
cylinder wasn't rotating. I informed Hotpoint and an engineer duly
arrived. "Most odd" said the engineer, "The belt has broken, doesn't
happen often, I'll have to order one from Bristol, where they're made".

So there's a new appointment for Thursday. You'd think he would carry a
spare belt to cover all tumble drier models? Shudder to think of the
cost of 2 visits, plus 2 lots of petrol. My advice : buy foreign, unless
you like music hall farces :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc



We've had good experiences with White Knight.


White Knight what?

Iirc people like the gas tumble driers, less so everything else...
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On 30/04/2017 09:22, Brian Gaff wrote:
He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and need a
spare.
We used to make TVs in this country back in the early 70s, but they needed
a live in engineer for the first couple of months.


Brian



Blame customers.
GEC and Hitachi TVs used to come off the same production line in wales,
the only thing different was the badge.
GEC couldn't sell them and they sold their share of the plant and then
it got closed down.

On 30/04/2017 11:38, newshound wrote:
On 4/29/2017 10:25 PM, Malcolm Race wrote:
Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit
only white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until
she was told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any
manufacturers who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

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Even if you can find one, you can be sure that the fill valves and level
sensor will be Italian.

More likely Chinese.

In article . com,
dennis@home wrote:
On 30/04/2017 09:22, Brian Gaff wrote:
He will then find there is a defect in the bearing or pullwey and need a
spare.
We used to make TVs in this country back in the early 70s, but they needed
a live in engineer for the first couple of months.


Brian



Blame customers.
GEC and Hitachi TVs used to come off the same production line in wales,
the only thing different was the badge.
GEC couldn't sell them and they sold their share of the plant and then
it got closed down.

That's the one I mentioned earlier.

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Not so sure about that. Caring assembly of a car is one of the most
important bits. Something which was lacking (for many reasons) in the
heyday of the UK car industry. Rather than fundamental design flaws.


But if the parts are not well designed, lack modern functionality and are
not well made then the assmbler cannot fix it.

On 4/29/2017 7:40 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

Malcolm Race wrote:

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK.

Good luck.
I wanted to 'Buy British' when I bought my Hotpoint dual-fuel cooker.
When it arrived, I found that it had been manufactured in Poland

http://www.stoves.co.uk/made-in-britain/

When the current Hotpoint cooker goes 'pop', I'll have a look at Stoves.

dennis@home wrote:
On 29/04/2017 23:36, Bertie Doe wrote:


"Malcolm Race" wrote in message news

Are there any?

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit
only white goods made in the UK. She vwas looking at Hotpoint until
she was told that they were made in china/far east. Are there any
manufacturers who make wquipment in the UK?

Malcolm

The only machine in the Hotpoint range that's made in the UK is their
tumble driers. Ours arrived Thursday of last week, from one of
Amazon's traders via DPD.

A few minutes into it's first drying cycle, it was clear that the
cylinder wasn't rotating. I informed Hotpoint and an engineer duly
arrived. "Most odd" said the engineer, "The belt has broken, doesn't
happen often, I'll have to order one from Bristol, where they're
made". So there's a new appointment for Thursday. You'd think he would
carry a spare belt to cover all tumble drier models? Shudder to
think of the cost of 2 visits, plus 2 lots of petrol. My advice :
buy foreign, unless you like music hall farces :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc

Why carry a part if it never breaks?

it broke

On 30/04/2017 13:05, dennis@home wrote:



Blame customers.
GEC and Hitachi TVs used to come off the same production line in wales,
the only thing different was the badge.
GEC couldn't sell them and they sold their share of the plant and then
it got closed down.

I remember that 3 decades ago when a 2 models of a VHS video recorder
came off the same production line and were identical apart from the case
cosmetics the badge. Which? tested them both and gave one with the JCV
badge a best buy recommendation and slated the other as rubbish.


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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 30/04/2017 13:05, dennis@home wrote:



Blame customers.
GEC and Hitachi TVs used to come off the same production line in wales,
the only thing different was the badge.
GEC couldn't sell them and they sold their share of the plant and then
it got closed down.

I remember that 3 decades ago when a 2 models of a VHS video recorder
came off the same production line and were identical apart from the case
cosmetics the badge. Which? tested them both and gave one with the JCV
badge a best buy recommendation and slated the other as rubbish.

they did the same with Fergusson & HMV tv sets - and that was in the '60s.

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On 30/04/2017 16:12, S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/29/2017 7:40 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

Malcolm Race wrote:

We are in the process of re-fitting a kitchen. SWMBO wants to fit only
white goods made in the UK.

Good luck.
I wanted to 'Buy British' when I bought my Hotpoint dual-fuel cooker.
When it arrived, I found that it had been manufactured in Poland

http://www.stoves.co.uk/made-in-britain/

When the current Hotpoint cooker goes 'pop', I'll have a look at Stoves.

http://www.glendimplex.com/worldwide...ome_appliances



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