deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er


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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one of
these pick it up types.



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Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message ...
deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way


RT

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Doctor Evil wrote:
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one
of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

Are you saying he wasn't a chippie?


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[news] wrote:
Doctor Evil wrote:
deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er
He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one of
these pick it up types.
yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

He probably picked it all up reading Practical Mechanics or some similar
magazine whose monthly contents page looks something like

- An Easy-to-Make Tricycle for the Children
- Building Your Own Observatory
- Practical Nuclear Power For the Suburban Home
- How To Change A Kettle Element

Owain

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[news] wrote:
He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one
of these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

Heh heh. Old George - still working well into his '70s, probably would
have. He reckoned the chippie was in charge of all the trades, where there
was no actual foreman. So made it his business to know at least as much as
anyone on site. Just like IMM thinks he does. But George actually did.

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Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message ...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

Are you saying he wasn't a chippie?

no, I'm saying he *was* one of those pick it up types

how else would he have accomplished everything he did without
picking a few skills up along the way, however he got them, at
college, from books or getting tips of his wide circle of mates ?

your theory that he was 'not one of these pick it up types' is seriously flawed


RT

"[news]" wrote in message ...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not
one of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

Are you saying he wasn't a chippie?

no, I'm saying he *was* one of those pick it up types

how else would he have accomplished everything he did without
picking a few skills up along the way, however he got them, at
college, from books or getting tips of his wide circle of mates ?

your theory that he was 'not one of these pick it up types' is seriously
flawed

No theory involved. Fact: he was a college educated joiner. He was taught
technical drawing, which he used in many of his subsequent projects. He was
able to fall back on his college education to help him along. He had that
technical education base, which also gave him technical analysis and the
ability of technical understanding.



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No theory involved. Fact: he was a college educated joiner. He was
taught technical drawing, which he used in many of his subsequent
projects. He was able to fall back on his college education to help him
along. He had that technical education base, which also gave him
technical analysis and the ability of technical understanding.

Remind us of which college you claimed to go to so we know which one to
avoid?

FWIW, many schools when he were a lad taught technical drawing, applied
mechanics, and woodwork or metalwork.

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In article ,
Doctor Evil wrote:
No theory involved. Fact: he was a college educated joiner. He was
taught technical drawing, which he used in many of his subsequent
projects. He was able to fall back on his college education to help him
along. He had that technical education base, which also gave him
technical analysis and the ability of technical understanding.

....the loonie is at it again....just read.....

Remind us of which college you
claimed to go to so we know which one to
avoid?

He thinks I went to Dibnahs college....




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Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message ...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

Are you saying he wasn't a chippie?

no, I'm saying he *was* one of those pick it up types

how else would he have accomplished everything he did without
picking a few skills up along the way, however he got them, at
college, from books or getting tips of his wide circle of mates ?

your theory that he was 'not one of these pick it up types' is seriously flawed

No theory involved. Fact: he was a college educated joiner. He was taught
technical drawing, which he used in many of his subsequent projects. He was
able to fall back on his college education to help him along. He had that
technical education base, which also gave him technical analysis and the
ability of technical understanding.

what was the /point/ of your original comment that he wasn't one of these
pick it up types ? why make that comment if not to start some sort of row ?

there are some right argumentative tits on usenet, you're one of them.
have a word with yourself [plonk]


RT

"[news]" wrote in message ...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
...
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc,
not one of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

Are you saying he wasn't a chippie?

no, I'm saying he *was* one of those pick it up types

how else would he have accomplished everything he did without
picking a few skills up along the way, however he got them, at
college, from books or getting tips of his wide circle of mates ?

your theory that he was 'not one of these pick it up types' is
seriously flawed

No theory involved. Fact: he was a college educated joiner. He was
taught
technical drawing, which he used in many of his subsequent projects. He
was
able to fall back on his college education to help him along. He had
that
technical education base, which also gave him technical analysis and the
ability of technical understanding.

what was the /point/ of your original
comment that he wasn't one of these
pick it up types ?

A pick it up type has no technical education and think he knows it all.

there are some right argumentative
tits on usenet, you're one of them.
have a word with yourself [plonk]

Firstly you are the one who started the arguing not me. Secondly you are
not very bright, who comes across as one of these know-it-all pick it up
types. Sad but true.


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Remind us of which college you
claimed to go to so we know which one to
avoid?

He thinks I went to Dibnahs college....

I'd be surprised if you went to school, let alone college.

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what was the /point/ of your original
comment that he wasn't one of these
pick it up types ?

A pick it up type has no technical education and think he knows it all.

Excuse me, you leaking ****pot

I am sure that I'm not alone as being a "pick it up type" and someone
with a technical education.

You see, that's your problem - you don't fall into either group and
don't understand how anyone else can.

In this NG, your the tone deaf boi on the choir

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Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message ...
deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way



And a "natural" TV presenter)

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what was the /point/ of your original
comment that he wasn't one of these
pick it up types ?

A pick it up type has no technical education and think he knows it all.

Excuse me, you leaking ****pot

It's nice to see you back again and on form too. Have you been busy in your
enchanted workshop?


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Doctor Evil wrote:
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one
of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.


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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , [news] writes
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one
of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.


Yes I know I've been on one;!, but he was a natural, and as much as you
can train someone, some people just have that talent.

BTW when's your first show

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writes

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , [news] writes
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not
one
of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.


Yes I know I've been on one;!, but he was a natural, and as much as you
can train someone, some people just have that talent.

BTW when's your first show

A long time ago.


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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , [news] writes
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not
one
of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.


Yes I know I've been on one;!, but he was a natural, and as much as you
can train someone, some people just have that talent.

BTW when's your first show

He was on last week...."Interference" ;-)

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what was the /point/ of your original
comment that he wasn't one of these
pick it up types ?

A pick it up type has no technical education and think he knows it all.

Excuse me, you leaking ****pot

It's nice to see you back again and on form too. Have you been busy in your
enchanted workshop?

Such a shame, isn't it, that you just don't have a clue ... about
anything
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , [news] writes
Doctor Evil wrote:
"[news]" wrote in message
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

He was actually a joiner by trade, and went tech college, etc, not one
of
these pick it up types.

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.

As usual, you don't understand the difference between natural ability
and learning


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writes

yeah, right, chippies just *know* how to do steeplejacking,
boilermaking, turning, stone masonry, exquisite drawings,
etc, etc, they don't pick it up along the way

And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.


Yes I know I've been on one;!, but he was a natural, and as much as you
can train someone, some people just have that talent.

BTW when's your first show

A long time ago.

Did the kids clap for Mr Punch or the crocodile ?

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And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.

An expert on TV production now. Will your talents never start?

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raden wrote:

I am sure that I'm not alone as being a "pick it up type" and someone
with a technical education.

You certainly aren't. Now why is autodidacticism[*] so untrendy at the
moment? Discuss.
[*] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidactism - which /inter alia/
contains the fine quotation: "The only thing that interferes with my
learning is my education." (Albert Einstein)

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tony sayer wrote:
And a "natural" TV presenter)
All of them get courses on how to present.
BTW when's your first show

Oh, is the Combi World channel offering a buy-one get-one-free deal on
this luxury gem-encrusted high-flow combi boiler with brass-effect
fittings please allow six months for non-delivery

Owain

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And a "natural" TV presenter)

All of them get courses on how to present.

....our popular caber making person says.....wait for it...he does...

An expert on TV production now.

......yes he says that......would you believe it.....


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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

Well, one you've heard of because of TV

There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence through
the media

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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

Well, one you've heard of because of TV

There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

that's a fact.

what's your point, caller ?

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence
through the media

I'm not 'making a hero' (whatever the **** that means) I was simply
reminding people on a DIY tip that a rticular prog was on at a certain
time in case you'd forgot like I nearly did.

everything else you assert is made up entirely in your own head.



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You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence through
the media

True - but a talented 'front man' who also 'does' is rare.

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raden wrote:
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

Well, one you've heard of because of TV

There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

that's a fact.

what's your point, caller ?

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence
through the media

I'm not 'making a hero' (whatever the **** that means) I was simply
reminding people on a DIY tip that a rticular prog was on at a certain
time in case you'd forgot like I nearly did.

Yes you were

"Fred was the ultimate DIY'er"


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raden wrote:
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raden wrote:
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

Well, one you've heard of because of TV

There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

that's a fact.

what's your point, caller ?

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence
through the media

I'm not 'making a hero' (whatever the **** that means) I was simply
reminding people on a DIY tip that a rticular prog was on at a certain
time in case you'd forgot like I nearly did.

Yes you were

"Fred was the ultimate DIY'er"

he was. (did you see inside his house?) I wasn't making a hero of him.
just because some usenet troll accuses me of doing so and you agree
with said troll doesn't make it fact, does it ?


RT

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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

Well, one you've heard of because of TV

There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

that's a fact.

what's your point, caller ?

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence
through the media

I'm not 'making a hero' (whatever the **** that means) I was simply
reminding people on a DIY tip that a rticular prog was on at a certain
time in case you'd forgot like I nearly did.

Yes you were

"Fred was the ultimate DIY'er"

Maxie, did he use budget power tools or very expensive Makita's?



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Maxie, did he use budget power tools or very expensive Makita's?

Makita's what?

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Maxie, did he use budget power
tools or very expensive Makita's?

....here we go again...the above is a very clear question and our DIYing
caber maker says.....

Makita's what?

....well make what you will of it...


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Makita's what?

...well make what you will of it...

Yet again demonstrating your lack of knowledge of basics...

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There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

that's a fact.

what's your point, caller ?

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence
through the media

I'm not 'making a hero' (whatever the **** that means) I was simply
reminding people on a DIY tip that a rticular prog was on at a certain
time in case you'd forgot like I nearly did.

Yes you were

"Fred was the ultimate DIY'er"

he was. (did you see inside his house?) I wasn't making a hero of him.
just because some usenet troll accuses me of doing so and you agree
with said troll doesn't make it fact, does it ?

The fact that you keep on repeating your mantra doesn't make him "the
ultimate DIYer"

You don't get out much do you ?

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raden wrote:
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deff on topic, Fred was the ultimate DIY'er

Well, one you've heard of because of TV

There are thousands of people out there who probably do much the same,
but not in front of a camera, so you never get to hear about them

that's a fact.

what's your point, caller ?

You're just making a hero of someone who has come to prominence
through the media

I'm not 'making a hero' (whatever the **** that means) I was simply
reminding people on a DIY tip that a rticular prog was on at a certain
time in case you'd forgot like I nearly did.

Yes you were

"Fred was the ultimate DIY'er"

Maxie, did he use budget power tools or very expensive Makita's?

Do **** off ****forbrains
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"raden" wrote in message
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"Fred was the ultimate DIY'er"

Maxie, did he use budget power tools
or very expensive Makita's?

Do **** off ****forbrains

Maxie, behave! Did Fred use steam powered drill/drivers?


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