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Good Evening all!
I am after a long masonry (about 8mm) drill bit. The longer the better! The longest on I currently have is 400mm, and that's too short... I don't have an SDS drill, just a "normal" hammer type Any idea where I could get longer bits? 1,000mm would be nice, just in case!! Sparks... (It's for running an alarm cable through) |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . Good Evening all! I am after a long masonry (about 8mm) drill bit. OK, on the Screwfix site, I have found this http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...01523&id=10364 http://tinyurl.com/3e8rs It is a 1000mm 10mm SDS Plus bit Although it is SDS, will it still fit in a normal chuck designed for standard round drill bits? (Like a drill that takes these? http://www.screwfix.com/sfd/i/cat/15/15246_l.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2mldm ) Thanks!! Sparks... |
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Sparks scribbled :
Although it is SDS, will it still fit in a normal chuck designed for standard round drill bits? No it won't fit in a standard chuck, for starters it wont centre so you will end up with a drilling circle of about 300mm by the time you get to the end with the wobble! Pick up a cheap SDS drill, you won't regret it if you drill masonary often. -- Gary Please remove #NOSPAM# if replying via email |
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"Gary" wrote in message ... Sparks scribbled : Although it is SDS, will it still fit in a normal chuck designed for standard round drill bits? No it won't fit in a standard chuck, for starters it wont centre so you will end up with a drilling circle of about 300mm by the time you get to the end with the wobble! Pick up a cheap SDS drill, you won't regret it if you drill masonary often. OK, is there an adaptor that can be bought to change a normal drill into SDS Plus? Sparks... |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . "Gary" wrote in message ... Sparks scribbled : Although it is SDS, will it still fit in a normal chuck designed for standard round drill bits? No it won't fit in a standard chuck, for starters it wont centre so you will end up with a drilling circle of about 300mm by the time you get to the end with the wobble! Pick up a cheap SDS drill, you won't regret it if you drill masonary often. OK, is there an adaptor that can be bought to change a normal drill into SDS Plus? Sparks... Nope, SDS is a totally different principal to a "hammer" drill. Google the group and you'll find 101 threads about SDS and how it works etc. All I can say is a bought a semi-decent Bosch SDS drill a year ago and everyone I know has borrowed it! It puts holes in stone, concrete etc like butter and with chisel attachments it has lifted light tarmac and put a hole through a 30" wall, took a bit of time ;-) There is no way I'd contemplate a hole more than a few inches deep in stonework without SDS. Hire the kit for the first job, prob. cost about £30, then buy if you think you have a use long term. Tony |
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Nope, SDS is a totally different principal to a "hammer" drill. Google the group and you'll find 101 threads about SDS and how it works etc. All I can say is a bought a semi-decent Bosch SDS drill a year ago and everyone I know has borrowed it! It puts holes in stone, concrete etc like butter and with chisel attachments it has lifted light tarmac and put a hole through a 30" wall, took a bit of time ;-) There is no way I'd contemplate a hole more than a few inches deep in stonework without SDS. Hire the kit for the first job, prob. cost about £30, then buy if you think you have a use long term. Ok, thanks for the advise! I take it an SDS Plus drill bit is not going to fit into an SDS drill such as http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2370793470 Sparks... |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . Nope, SDS is a totally different principal to a "hammer" drill. Google the group and you'll find 101 threads about SDS and how it works etc. All I can say is a bought a semi-decent Bosch SDS drill a year ago and everyone I know has borrowed it! It puts holes in stone, concrete etc like butter and with chisel attachments it has lifted light tarmac and put a hole through a 30" wall, took a bit of time ;-) There is no way I'd contemplate a hole more than a few inches deep in stonework without SDS. Hire the kit for the first job, prob. cost about £30, then buy if you think you have a use long term. Ok, thanks for the advise! I take it an SDS Plus drill bit is not going to fit into an SDS drill such as http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2370793470 Sparks... SDS plus should fit this fine, its SDS MAX that is the "big boys" stuff. But quite frankly a £22 quick SDS drill? stick a "0" on that and its more like it. I bought mine for about £180 in a deal at Jewsons, you can pay less or a lot more depending on what you want and how much use it will get. For a a 1 metre deep hole you prob. need to look at SDS max so I'd ring Hewdon or HSS first before buying anything. A SDS Max with a 1m core drill could cost many, many hundreds to buy. |
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SDS plus should fit this fine, its SDS MAX that is the "big boys" stuff.
But quite frankly a £22 quick SDS drill? stick a "0" on that and its more like it. I bought mine for about £180 in a deal at Jewsons, you can pay less or a lot more depending on what you want and how much use it will get. For a a 1 metre deep hole you prob. need to look at SDS max so I'd ring Hewdon or HSS first before buying anything. A SDS Max with a 1m core drill could cost many, many hundreds to buy. It won't be a meter long (Well I hope not!! The stuff I am drilling seems to be pretty soft My Bosh cordless 12v hammer drill went in 400mm like butter! I think it is sandstone, but am not too sure Sparks... |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:06:36 -0000, "enuff"
wrote: "Sparks" wrote in message . .. I take it an SDS Plus drill bit is not going to fit into an SDS drill such as http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2370793470 Sparks... SDS plus should fit this fine, its SDS MAX that is the "big boys" stuff. But quite frankly a £22 quick SDS drill? stick a "0" on that and its more like it. I bought mine for about £180 in a deal at Jewsons, you can pay less or a lot more depending on what you want and how much use it will get. I have one like the above and it is perfectly serviceable. I don't suppose it will last as long or be as good as the pro ones at 10 times the price, but are they 10 times better? I doubt it. It makes holes. -- Niall |
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I have one like the above and it is perfectly serviceable. I don't suppose it will last as long or be as good as the pro ones at 10 times the price, but are they 10 times better? I doubt it. It makes holes. Grr, shame I didn't bid on it before it was too late! What is the difference between SDS and SDS Plus anyway? If they all fit into the same drills, why the two types? Sparks... |
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Sparks wrote: I am after a long masonry (about 8mm) drill bit. The longer the better! The longest on I currently have is 400mm, and that's too short... I don't have an SDS drill, just a "normal" hammer type Any idea where I could get longer bits? A decent tool shop will have 'special' bits which have a thread on them on to which goes an extension - or as many as you want. The bit can also be used without the extension(s). The extensions are the same size for a number of larger bits. I think they're more like 12mm, though. They used to be in the sheds, but haven't seen them for a while - although I wouldn't be looking since I've gone SDS. -- *In "Casablanca", Humphrey Bogart never said "Play it again, Sam" * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . I have one like the above and it is perfectly serviceable. I don't suppose it will last as long or be as good as the pro ones at 10 times the price, but are they 10 times better? I doubt it. It makes holes. Grr, shame I didn't bid on it before it was too late! get yourself down to Woolworths - they sell that drill for £29.99 |
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"Chris Oates" none wrote in message
... "Sparks" wrote in message .. . I have one like the above and it is perfectly serviceable. I don't suppose it will last as long or be as good as the pro ones at 10 times the price, but are they 10 times better? I doubt it. It makes holes. Grr, shame I didn't bid on it before it was too late! get yourself down to Woolworths - they sell that drill for £29.99 Really!! - Will pop down the road tomorrow then! How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2371252 982 http://tinyurl.com/2t3dy Sparks... |
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You can hire lomg drill bits
"enuff" wrote in message ... "Sparks" wrote in message .. . Nope, SDS is a totally different principal to a "hammer" drill. Google the group and you'll find 101 threads about SDS and how it works etc. All I can say is a bought a semi-decent Bosch SDS drill a year ago and everyone I know has borrowed it! It puts holes in stone, concrete etc like butter and with chisel attachments it has lifted light tarmac and put a hole through a 30" wall, took a bit of time ;-) There is no way I'd contemplate a hole more than a few inches deep in stonework without SDS. Hire the kit for the first job, prob. cost about £30, then buy if you think you have a use long term. Ok, thanks for the advise! I take it an SDS Plus drill bit is not going to fit into an SDS drill such as http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2370793470 Sparks... SDS plus should fit this fine, its SDS MAX that is the "big boys" stuff. But quite frankly a £22 quick SDS drill? stick a "0" on that and its more like it. I bought mine for about £180 in a deal at Jewsons, you can pay less or a lot more depending on what you want and how much use it will get. For a a 1 metre deep hole you prob. need to look at SDS max so I'd ring Hewdon or HSS first before buying anything. A SDS Max with a 1m core drill could cost many, many hundreds to buy. |
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The stuff I am drilling seems to be pretty soft
My Bosh cordless 12v hammer drill went in 400mm like butter! I think it is sandstone, but am not too sure Just found a place down the road that has 300mm (normal) bits with a threaded end and the extension bits, it however fails to mention the length of the extension!! Will go down there tomorrow and see if it will do! Thanks for all the suggestions! Sparks... |
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The stuff I am drilling seems to be pretty soft
My Bosh cordless 12v hammer drill went in 400mm like butter! I think it is sandstone, but am not too sure Just found a place down the road that has 300mm (normal) bits with a threaded end and the extension bits, it however fails to mention the length of the extension!! Will go down there tomorrow and see if it will do! Thanks for all the suggestions! Sparks... ....and just found this on TLC too!! http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FX101000.html Will go there tomorrow!! Sparks... |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . "Chris Oates" none wrote in message ... "Sparks" wrote in message .. . I have one like the above and it is perfectly serviceable. I don't suppose it will last as long or be as good as the pro ones at 10 times the price, but are they 10 times better? I doubt it. It makes holes. Grr, shame I didn't bid on it before it was too late! get yourself down to Woolworths - they sell that drill for £29.99 Really!! - Will pop down the road tomorrow then! How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2371252 982 http://tinyurl.com/2t3dy all these 650-850W SDS rotostop drills are the same drill the Woolies one has those attachments + a chuck to take standard drills + spare motor brushes + 5 year gntee |
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get yourself down to Woolworths - they sell that drill for £29.99 Really!! - Will pop down the road tomorrow then! How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2371252 982 http://tinyurl.com/2t3dy all these 650-850W SDS rotostop drills are the same drill the Woolies one has those attachments + a chuck to take standard drills + spare motor brushes + 5 year gntee OK, is that just pretty much any Woolworths, or only really huge ones! Sparks... |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . Good Evening all! I am after a long masonry (about 8mm) drill bit. The longer the better! The longest on I currently have is 400mm, and that's too short... I don't have an SDS drill, just a "normal" hammer type Any idea where I could get longer bits? 1,000mm would be nice, just in case!! Sparks... (It's for running an alarm cable through) Screwfix do a range of SDS drills 1 metre long in that sort of size - it is perfectly feasable to saw off the SDS bit and fit it in a standard chuck as the drill shank is relatively soft, however I would strongly recommend Screwfix's FERM £29.99 rotostop sds drill - I bought one as a stop gap for chiseling, but find it is remarkably solid for the money (and guaranteed for 3 years !!!) Andrew Mawson |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . get yourself down to Woolworths - they sell that drill for £29.99 Really!! - Will pop down the road tomorrow then! How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2371252 982 http://tinyurl.com/2t3dy all these 650-850W SDS rotostop drills are the same drill the Woolies one has those attachments + a chuck to take standard drills + spare motor brushes + 5 year gntee OK, is that just pretty much any Woolworths, or only really huge ones! Mine is a tiny one, Woolies that is. |
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"Sparks" wrote in message
.. . Good Evening all! I am after a long masonry (about 8mm) drill bit. The longer the better! The longest on I currently have is 400mm, and that's too short... I don't have an SDS drill, just a "normal" hammer type Any idea where I could get longer bits? What I have is a Rawlplug Durium Rotary Masonary Drill bit which has a screw thread. This attaches to a Rawlplug Durium/Vibroto Extension Sleeve which is 23cm long, Catalogue No 83-502. I have two of these. I can add as many extensions sleeves as I like as each extension sleeve has both a male and female end. Works with my normal B&D hammer drill. Purchased in the mid 70s. Michael Chare |
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Sparks wrote:
What is the difference between SDS and SDS Plus anyway? If they all fit into the same drills, why the two types? SDS Plus seems to indicate drills that can do rotation stop (i.e. hammer only) - but the terminology seems a bit vague between manufacturers! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote:
Sparks wrote: What is the difference between SDS and SDS Plus anyway? If they all fit into the same drills, why the two types? SDS Plus seems to indicate drills that can do rotation stop (i.e. hammer only) - but the terminology seems a bit vague between manufacturers! Given that no-one here knows what "SDS" indicates, I should say most terminology used by the "experts" seems vague! J.B. |
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Jerry Built ] wrote: Given that no-one here knows what "SDS" indicates, I should say most terminology used by the "experts" seems vague! I remember someone here giving chapter and verse on what the initials stand for in German. A Google search should soon find it if you're really interested. IIRC, it refers to the keyless bit change idea rather than the hammer action - I have a Bosch jigsaw also labelled SDS. So Special Drill System it ain't. -- *I don't have a solution, but I admire your problem. * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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"Sparks" wrote in message .. . "Chris Oates" none wrote in message ... "Sparks" wrote in message .. . I have one like the above and it is perfectly serviceable. I don't suppose it will last as long or be as good as the pro ones at 10 times the price, but are they 10 times better? I doubt it. It makes holes. Grr, shame I didn't bid on it before it was too late! get yourself down to Woolworths - they sell that drill for £29.99 Really!! - Will pop down the road tomorrow then! How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=2371252 982 http://tinyurl.com/2t3dy Sparks... This is pretty much the same drill that has been offered by B&Q, homebase and Argos all for around about £30, For occasional use I would say that its OK, the only drawback being that IIRC it weighs in at 5kg, which you will soon feel if you are using it a lot. Its a little ironic that the e-bay offerings will probably work out more expensive once the P&P for this thing is added in :-) cheers David |
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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message ... In article , Jerry Built ] wrote: Given that no-one here knows what "SDS" indicates, I should say most terminology used by the "experts" seems vague! I remember someone here giving chapter and verse on what the initials stand for in German. A Google search should soon find it if you're really interested. IIRC, it refers to the keyless bit change idea rather than the hammer action - I have a Bosch jigsaw also labelled SDS. So Special Drill System it ain't. Slot Drive System |
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