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Ive notoiced an alarming tendency for women to shag the hunkiest, but
marry the most secure...sometimes within the same day..

I am both.

What, ...

a woman that shags the hunkiest and marries the most secure ?

I am all of that.


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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:48:16 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


The economy is booming, the pound
is almighty strong,

This is not necessarily helpful.

I suppose poverty and deprivation is. What world do you live in?

The real one.

Have you ever heard that a strong currency leads to more expensive
exports?

The pound is not strong against the Euro, but the dollar is temporarily
very weak - that's great for the US, bad for the rest of the world.
Like Britain, Americans are spending more borrowed money that they can
afford.

I assume you refer to this consumer debt. 80% is people paying mortgages
to
put a super expensive small roof over their heads. Land ownership and
availability for building is the core of this.

Oh not that again.

You are so dumb you can't see the root problem(s). We pay far too much for
very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK. Haven't
you figured it out yet?


The whole debate has been had at least five times before and all of
the possible angles discussed repeatedly and ad nauseam.

All that you do is trot out platitiudes from books by hack
journalists that match your preconceived notions and don't add any
original thought of your own.
I would say that that is pretty dumb.




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The first is not that relevant since I live in a constituency where a
7% swing to LibDem would be needed to change anything and Tony's crony
polled 17%.

I am delighted!

Tony's man wasn't. He was only just ahead of the Raving Looney
candidate.


Where you imagine that snobbery comes into the
discussion I have no idea.

One of the foundation point of toryism is petty snobbery: hierarchy,
aristocracy, hereditary peers, private schools, Oxbridge, etc. They support
the whole lot.

You seem to be very confused.



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etc, etc, etc...

I'm quite pleased to see that the daft Xmas period seems to be over and
everything here seems to have reverted to normal again.

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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:12:31 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:41:55 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
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In article , Andy Hall
writes
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:48:16 -0000, "IMM"
wrote:


The economy is booming, the pound
is almighty strong,

This is not necessarily helpful.

I suppose poverty and deprivation is. What world do you live in?

The real one.

Have you ever heard that a strong currency leads to more expensive
exports?

The pound is not strong against the Euro, but the dollar is
temporarily
very weak - that's great for the US, bad for the rest of the world.
Like Britain, Americans are spending more borrowed money that they
can
afford.

I assume you refer to this consumer debt. 80% is people paying
mortgages
to
put a super expensive small roof over their heads. Land ownership and
availability for building is the core of this.

Oh not that again.

You are so dumb you can't see the root problem(s). We pay far too much
for
very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK. Haven't
you figured it out yet?


The whole debate has been had at least five times before and all of
the possible angles discussed repeatedly and ad nauseam.

But the penny hasn't dropped with you. The brainwashing is hard to
penetrate.




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The first is not that relevant since I live in a constituency where a
7% swing to LibDem would be needed to change anything and Tony's crony
polled 17%.

I am delighted!

Tony's man wasn't. He was only just ahead of the Raving Looney
candidate.


Where you imagine that snobbery comes into the
discussion I have no idea.

One of the foundation point of toryism is petty snobbery: hierarchy,
aristocracy, hereditary peers, private schools, Oxbridge, etc. They
support
the whole lot.

You seem to be very confused.

Not in a million years. I don't suck in propaganda fed by the super rich
landowners wanting the status quo.


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very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK. Haven't
you figured it out yet?


The whole debate has been had at least five times before and all of
the possible angles discussed repeatedly and ad nauseam.

But the penny hasn't dropped with you. The brainwashing is hard to
penetrate.

Wasn't with you, was it?




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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:38:26 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:15:16 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message

The first is not that relevant since I live in a constituency where a
7% swing to LibDem would be needed to change anything and Tony's crony
polled 17%.

I am delighted!

Tony's man wasn't. He was only just ahead of the Raving Looney
candidate.


Where you imagine that snobbery comes into the
discussion I have no idea.

One of the foundation point of toryism is petty snobbery: hierarchy,
aristocracy, hereditary peers, private schools, Oxbridge, etc. They
support
the whole lot.

You seem to be very confused.

Not in a million years. I don't suck in propaganda fed by the super rich
landowners wanting the status quo.


Just what you read in books by sensationalist hack journalists.


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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:38:26 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:15:16 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message

The first is not that relevant since I live in a constituency where
a
7% swing to LibDem would be needed to change anything and Tony's
crony
polled 17%.

I am delighted!

Tony's man wasn't. He was only just ahead of the Raving Looney
candidate.


Where you imagine that snobbery comes into the
discussion I have no idea.

One of the foundation point of toryism is petty snobbery: hierarchy,
aristocracy, hereditary peers, private schools, Oxbridge, etc. They
support
the whole lot.

You seem to be very confused.

Not in a million years. I don't suck in propaganda fed by the super rich
landowners wanting the status quo.

Just what you read in books by sensationalist hack journalists.

You are lost case. You have been totally conditioned.


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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:35:58 -0000, "IMM" wrote:



very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK.
Haven't
you figured it out yet?


The whole debate has been had at least five times before and all of
the possible angles discussed repeatedly and ad nauseam.

But the penny hasn't dropped with you. The brainwashing is hard to
penetrate.

Wasn't with you, was it?

LOL. Festive good cheer on the 11th day of Xmas.


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IMM wrote:

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IMM wrote:



Then look around and stop reading the Daily Mail and listening to that

dirty

scruffy blond haired ******* who is always on the TV, Boris something.
Fitting: they have Dracula and Boris at the top.

Will Self for Mein Fuhrer.


Will Self? Fuhrer? he is Jewish.



But I am sure he would appreciate the irony.

Isn't it odd that *you* knew that, and it

had never occurred to me to even consider

his religuious or ethnic orientation...

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"Mr E" wrote in message
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Huge wrote:

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Maybe you hadn't thought carefully enough about your earlier
response.

I find it a depressing thought because it may mean that might have to
put up with more of that smirking lying **** Bliar and his oleaginous
thieving Chancellor and the whole lying, deceitful, nauseating bunch
of yes-men they are surrounded with.

Fair enough. It is fairly clear that 'New Labour' has exhausted any

good

will which they inherited when they came to office.

I can't believe the crap I read on here. The economy is booming, the

pound

is almighty strong, unemployment is the lowest for 25 years, no more
cardbord cities of homeless people, great anti-social laws, the world

went

into recession the UK never, etc, etc.

Personal debt up from £300 billion in 1992 to over £900 billion today.


80% of it is mortgage repayments to basically survive.


The economy isn't booming, house
prices and imports are.


Which indicates that money is about.



There is always plenty of money about. It can be printed and hived off
in government bonds indefinitely.


Money is not teh issue ultimately. Its the provision of goods and
services beynd a countries means to generate them that is the issue.

Traditionally you do this by importation, running up a debt to some
other country, and then adjust your currency to rip off the other
country and devalue the debt.

This may no longer be possible.





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brown nosing career people, each greedy to get to the top and get their


Diane Abbott ???


Now Now! she is a perfectly respectable politician. She is just in the
wrong party, that's all.

Anyone can see she is an out and out Tory. Like our Tone. And Gordon

Brown.

If Tony is a "Tory", why do you hate him so much?


Because in the final analyisis they are just as stupid and venal as the
average labour career politician. They usually display slightly more low
cunning, and slightly more appreciation of te goose and golden egg
analoagy tho.

I have never voted tory or labour in my entire life by the way.




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IMM wrote:

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:41:55 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
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In article , Andy Hall
writes

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:48:16 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


The economy is booming, the pound
is almighty strong,

This is not necessarily helpful.

I suppose poverty and deprivation is. What world do you live in?

The real one.

Have you ever heard that a strong currency leads to more expensive
exports?


The pound is not strong against the Euro, but the dollar is temporarily
very weak - that's great for the US, bad for the rest of the world.
Like Britain, Americans are spending more borrowed money that they can
afford.

I assume you refer to this consumer debt. 80% is people paying mortgages

to

put a super expensive small roof over their heads. Land ownership and
availability for building is the core of this.

Oh not that again.


You are so dumb you can't see the root problem(s). We pay far too much for
very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK. Haven't
you figured it out yet?



Do you WANT a house in the middle of the cairngorms? No roads, no water,
no sewage, no electricirty, no phones, no work, nothing but sheep to
shag...ahh...I see your point finally.

geoff wrote:

In message , IMM
writes


Ive notoiced an alarming tendency for women to shag the hunkiest, but
marry the most secure...sometimes within the same day..


I am both.

What, ...

a woman that shags the hunkiest and marries the most secure ?


Definitely a transvestite.

IMM wrote:



One of the foundation point of toryism is petty snobbery: hierarchy,
aristocracy, hereditary peers, private schools, Oxbridge, etc. They support
the whole lot.



No. all those are things touted by teh Left to expalin their own
complete inadeuacy in government, and to pretend to their votahs that
they are really cool people instead of a load of uneducated peasants.

Whereas any tory politician is completely aware that his audience is
merely a lot of overpaid half educated peasants.

It is this marveloous hypocrisy that insists on the one hand that
'anyone in the country could be prime minister' and then ask you to vote
for 'the one man who can put the country to rights'

Its all just a freak show. What really determines a countries
advancement is freaks of nature and accidents of history and geography.

Britain was great because it had a suitable merchant class and a god
seafaring tradition - not surprising for an island - plus access to iron
ore and coal, and a bit of a radical approach to political and
theological structures.

Sadly its lost all of those, and ceased to be as great.

Polticians are simply surfers on teh waves of fortune. They would have
you believe they set up the waves, and directed their course. That is
their justificaton for taxing the ******** off you and spending your
money on theoir pointless debating chamber.





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Not in a million years. I don't suck in propaganda fed by the super rich
landowners wanting the status quo.




Complete inability to distingush between capital asset and cash flow is
once again displayed...


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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:



Then look around and stop reading the Daily Mail and listening to that

dirty

scruffy blond haired ******* who is always on the TV, Boris something.
Fitting: they have Dracula and Boris at the top.

Will Self for Mein Fuhrer.


Will Self? Fuhrer? he is Jewish.

But I am sure he would appreciate the irony.

Isn't it odd that *you* knew that, and it

had never occurred to me to even consider

his religuious or ethnic orientation...

Fuhrer, Nazi....and he is Jewish? Please are you that dumb?



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You are so dumb you can't see the root problem(s). We pay far too much
for
very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK.
Haven't
you figured it out yet?

Do you WANT a house in the middle of the cairngorms? No roads, no water,
no sewage, no electricirty, no phones, no work, nothing but sheep to
shag...ahh...I see your point finally.

What the hell are you on about?


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Not in a million years. I don't suck in propaganda fed by the super
rich
landowners wanting the status quo.

Complete inability to distingush between capital asset and cash flow is
once again displayed...

You are confused. Keep off the Xmas port.


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One of the foundation point of toryism is petty snobbery: hierarchy,
aristocracy, hereditary peers, private schools, Oxbridge, etc. They
support
the whole lot.

No. all those are things touted by teh
Left to expalin their own
complete inadeuacy in government,

What tosh!

and to pretend to their votahs that
they are really cool people instead
of a load of uneducated peasants.

More tosh.

Whereas any tory politician is completely aware that his audience is
merely a lot of overpaid half educated peasants.

Exactly. They look down on people.


It is this marveloous hypocrisy that insists on the one hand that
'anyone in the country could be prime minister' and then ask you to vote
for 'the one man who can put the country to rights'

Its all just a freak show. What really determines a countries
advancement is freaks of nature and accidents of history and geography.

Britain was great because it had a suitable merchant class and a god
seafaring tradition - not surprising for an island - plus access to iron
ore and coal, and a bit of a radical approach to political and
theological structures.

Sadly its lost all of those, and ceased to be as great.

Polticians are simply surfers on teh waves of fortune. They would have
you believe they set up the waves, and directed their course. That is
their justificaton for taxing the ******** off you and spending your
money on theoir pointless debating chamber.





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Which indicates that money is about.

There is always plenty of money about. It can be printed and hived off
in government bonds indefinitely.

Well none of it was with the people under those prats Thatcher & Major.

Money is not teh issue ultimately. Its the provision of goods and
services beynd a countries means to generate them that is the issue.

Another wanting doom and gloom.




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If Tony is a "Tory", why do you hate him so much?

Because in the final analyisis they are just as stupid and venal as the
average labour career politician. They usually display slightly more low
cunning, and slightly more appreciation of te goose and golden egg
analoagy tho.

I have never voted tory or labour in my entire life by the way.

Who did you vote for then?



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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:




Then look around and stop reading the Daily Mail and listening to that


dirty


scruffy blond haired ******* who is always on the TV, Boris something.
Fitting: they have Dracula and Boris at the top.


Will Self for Mein Fuhrer.


Will Self? Fuhrer? he is Jewish.

But I am sure he would appreciate the irony.

Isn't it odd that *you* knew that, and it

had never occurred to me to even consider

his religuious or ethnic orientation...


Fuhrer, Nazi....and he is Jewish? Please are you that dumb?




No, you are. As usual you have completely missed the point...



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IMM wrote:

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You are so dumb you can't see the root problem(s). We pay far too much

for

very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK.

Haven't

you figured it out yet?

Do you WANT a house in the middle of the cairngorms? No roads, no water,
no sewage, no electricirty, no phones, no work, nothing but sheep to
shag...ahh...I see your point finally.


What the hell are you on about?


I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.




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Whereas any tory politician is completely aware that his audience is
merely a lot of overpaid half educated peasants.


Exactly. They look down on people.


And yo uthink Tiny and cherie don't?

Lord! Is there no limits to your naivete?

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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You are so dumb you can't see the root problem(s). We pay far too much

for

very small homes because of an artificial land shortage, while the
established aristocracy still own vast tracts of land in the UK.

Haven't

you figured it out yet?

Do you WANT a house in the middle of the cairngorms? No roads, no water,
no sewage, no electricirty, no phones, no work, nothing but sheep to
shag...ahh...I see your point finally.

What the hell are you on about?

I can't help it if you are too stupid to understand.

You are "very" confused.


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If Tony is a "Tory", why do you hate him so much?

Because in the final analyisis they are just as stupid and venal as the
average labour career politician. They usually display slightly more low
cunning, and slightly more appreciation of te goose and golden egg
analoagy tho.

I have never voted tory or labour in my entire life by the way.


Who did you vote for then?


I toyed with screaming lord Sutch for a while, and have occasionally
voted liberal, but mostly, since it made **** all difference, I have not
bothered wasting my time.





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No, you are. As usual you have completely missed the point...

You don't make points, you babble.


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IMM wrote:

Whereas any tory politician is completely aware that his audience is
merely a lot of overpaid half educated peasants.

Exactly. They look down on people.

And yo uthink Tiny and cherie don't?

No. Not at all.


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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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If Tony is a "Tory", why do you hate him so much?

Because in the final analyisis they are just as stupid and venal as the
average labour career politician. They usually display slightly more low
cunning, and slightly more appreciation of te goose and golden egg
analoagy tho.

I have never voted tory or labour in my entire life by the way.

Who did you vote for then?

I toyed with screaming lord Sutch for a while,

Figures.

and have occasionally
voted liberal, but mostly, since it made **** all difference, I have not
bothered wasting my time.

Democracy is not a waste of time. People died to give you that right.


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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...


If Tony is a "Tory", why do you hate him so much?


Because in the final analyisis they are just as stupid and venal as the
average labour career politician. They usually display slightly more low
cunning, and slightly more appreciation of te goose and golden egg
analoagy tho.

I have never voted tory or labour in my entire life by the way.

Who did you vote for then?

I toyed with screaming lord Sutch for a while,


Figures.


and have occasionally
voted liberal, but mostly, since it made **** all difference, I have not
bothered wasting my time.


Democracy is not a waste of time. People died to give you that right.



Oh indeed. Howver it works only when the vast mass of ignorant peasants
finally realise how much they have been lied to and select a new liar.

One lone genius is better served in helping them, not adding to their
stupidity...



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IMM wrote:

Whereas any tory politician is completely aware that his audience is
merely a lot of overpaid half educated peasants.

Exactly. They look down on people.

And yo uthink Tiny and cherie don't?

No. Not at all.


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Are you actually in the UK?

WE are, it's you we are not sure about. Personally I think you must actually
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In article , PoP
wrote:


I don't have sympathy for those within the system that know how to
bleed it dry and who live off the system.

Few apart from "bleeding hearts" do in my opinion.

But I do have sympathy for
those who find themselves out of work through no reasonable fault of
their own.

These *are* the folk who are deserving of help and support. Anyone can fall
on hard times and I would advocate as much assistance as possible to get
them back on their feet. Most people have the pride to want to earn their
keep.

They are treated very harshly by the job centre, at a time
when their world is turned upside down trying to cope with financial
demands they can no longer meet.

Quite. Sadly they get so many of the other sort that perhaps they can't tell
the difference any more? I think just the injustice and indignity of it all
would stop me claiming benefit, although as self employed, I believe that I
must pay in to the system but am not entitled to take out. :-(



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I don't have sympathy for those within the system that know how to
bleed it dry and who live off the system.

The royal family comes to mind.

although as self employed, I believe that I
must pay in to the system but am not entitled to take out. :-(

Benefits are for all, self employed and employed.


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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:00:48 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

Whereas any tory politician is completely aware that his audience is
merely a lot of overpaid half educated peasants.

Exactly. They look down on people.

And yo uthink Tiny and cherie don't?

No. Not at all.

ROTFLMAO.....!!

You ROTFLMAOed? My, my.



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"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
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In article , IMM
wrote:

Are you actually in the UK?

WE are, it's you we are not sure about. Personally I think you must
actually
be either from from another planet or have severe, selective blindness.

You a bad case. Therapy is available for the likes of you on the NHS.


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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Democracy is not a waste of time. People died to give you that right.

Oh indeed. Howver it works only when the vast mass of ignorant peasants
finally realise how much they have been lied to and select a new liar.

"ignorant peasants". The snotty uniness is really coming to the surface.

One lone genius is better served
in helping them, not adding to their
stupidity...

A society works better when all pull together. Lone genius's don't make
that much difference to the average man.


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"Kris" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:42:58 -0000, "IMM" wrote:


Not in a million years. I don't suck in propaganda fed by the super
rich landowners wanting the status quo.

Do you read the daily mirror

No.

as well as the thoughts of chairman mao.?

No.

You are naive, that is clear. Find out!


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