On 18/08/16 15:59, GB wrote:
On 17-Aug-16 7:18 PM, John Rumm wrote:

Yup it will wobble about a bit, but hopefully not fall down. As with any
portable access device, it feels a whole lot better when tied on at the
top!


Should houses have eyes in the brickwork for this purpose? It wouldn't
be expensive, and I'm sure that Elfin Safety would approve.


They are called windows




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On Thursday, 18 August 2016 10:54:34 UTC+1, jim wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
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jim k wrote:

Mark out, and carefully drill a hole (at right angles to the wall -
use a set square etc to check) right through at each corner. Join up
the holes inside with a pencil, etc. Cut from both sides with your
angle grinder.


Erm it's a cavity wall?!

And?


His angle grinder only cuts to 3" he says, so he can't cut from
the cavity sides of both leaves of the cavity
wall, unless he's
really thin ;-)

He doesn't need to. Please go & read a basic diy manual.


NT


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On 17/08/2016 14:40, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/08/2016 12:48, wrote:
On 17/08/2016 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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Mate, a platform is not that expensive to BUY.

I bought one to do my guttering.



I've been tempted to do the same - which did you buy and have you been
pleased with it?


I got an Ali one recently from BPS:

https://laddersandscaffoldtowers.co....ld-Towers.html


Not made extensive use of it yet, but with what I have done it seems
pretty good. Quick and easy to assemble and feels solid in use.




They look interesting, although working at 5 or 6 metres with such a
small width seems slightly worrying, even with outriggers. There's a
job coming up that I was going to pay someone to do (against my
religion, usually) and the saving would pay for one of these towers.
Hmmm!

Yes, I have a similar tower which I bought from Wickes about 30
years ago. They do wobble a bit even with the outriggers fitted. The
most interesting experience was fitting 8 x 3.5 ft double glazed window
panels with a slight breeze. Nowadays, I'd buy a wider more robust tower
as the access hatch is rather small.

On Thursday, 18 August 2016 16:00:57 UTC+1, jim wrote:
tabbypurr Wrote in message:
On Thursday, 18 August 2016 10:54:34 UTC+1, jim wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
jim k wrote:

Mark out, and carefully drill a hole (at right angles to the wall -
use a set square etc to check) right through at each corner. Join up
the holes inside with a pencil, etc. Cut from both sides with your
angle grinder.


Erm it's a cavity wall?!

And?


His angle grinder only cuts to 3" he says, so he can't cut from
the cavity sides of both leaves of the cavity
wall, unless he's
really thin ;-)

He doesn't need to. Please go & read a basic diy manual.

Noddy Troll?

Do read the thread before making the usual arse of yourself again
No Talent.

A content free response eh. You're such a time waster.

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On Thursday, 18 August 2016 16:00:57 UTC+1, jim wrote:
tabbypurr Wrote in message:
On Thursday, 18 August 2016 10:54:34 UTC+1, jim wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
jim k wrote:

Mark out, and carefully drill a hole (at right angles to the wall -
use a set square etc to check) right through at each corner. Join up
the holes inside with a pencil, etc. Cut from both sides with your
angle grinder.


Erm it's a cavity wall?!

And?


His angle grinder only cuts to 3" he says, so he can't cut from
the cavity sides of both leaves of the cavity
wall, unless he's
really thin ;-)

He doesn't need to. Please go & read a basic diy manual.

Noddy Troll?

Do read the thread before making the usual arse of yourself again
No Talent.

A content free response eh. You're such a time waster.


Pot kettle black.... Noddy Troll
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On 18/08/2016 15:59, GB wrote:
On 17-Aug-16 7:18 PM, John Rumm wrote:

Yup it will wobble about a bit, but hopefully not fall down. As with any
portable access device, it feels a whole lot better when tied on at the
top!


Should houses have eyes in the brickwork for this purpose? It wouldn't
be expensive, and I'm sure that Elfin Safety would approve.



As I said t'other day, screw-in studs (Multi Monti etc) are good for
that as you can either put on a hanger to tie off a ladder etc or a
bracket for a strut to a tower.



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On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:42:13 +0100, Capitol wrote:

wrote:
On 17/08/2016 14:40, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/08/2016 12:48, wrote:
On 17/08/2016 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
... snipped

Mate, a platform is not that expensive to BUY.

I bought one to do my guttering.



I've been tempted to do the same - which did you buy and have you
been pleased with it?


I got an Ali one recently from BPS:

https://laddersandscaffoldtowers.co....rade-Scaffold-
Towers.html


Not made extensive use of it yet, but with what I have done it seems
pretty good. Quick and easy to assemble and feels solid in use.




They look interesting, although working at 5 or 6 metres with such a
small width seems slightly worrying, even with outriggers. There's a
job coming up that I was going to pay someone to do (against my
religion, usually) and the saving would pay for one of these towers.
Hmmm!

Yes, I have a similar tower which I bought from Wickes about 30
years ago. They do wobble a bit even with the outriggers fitted. The
most interesting experience was fitting 8 x 3.5 ft double glazed window
panels with a slight breeze. Nowadays, I'd buy a wider more robust tower
as the access hatch is rather small.

I think that last statement was code for "I've become a bit of a fat
*******." :-)

Not an insult BTW. I'd say most of us in this news group who would have
been able to make such an investment 30 years ago, myself included, will
have come to the same conclusion in regard of their own physique today.

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:42:13 +0100, Capitol wrote:

wrote:
On 17/08/2016 14:40, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/08/2016 12:48, wrote:
On 17/08/2016 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
... snipped

Mate, a platform is not that expensive to BUY.

I bought one to do my guttering.



I've been tempted to do the same - which did you buy and have you
been pleased with it?


I got an Ali one recently from BPS:

https://laddersandscaffoldtowers.co....rade-Scaffold-
Towers.html


Not made extensive use of it yet, but with what I have done it seems
pretty good. Quick and easy to assemble and feels solid in use.




They look interesting, although working at 5 or 6 metres with such a
small width seems slightly worrying, even with outriggers. There's a
job coming up that I was going to pay someone to do (against my
religion, usually) and the saving would pay for one of these towers.
Hmmm!

Yes, I have a similar tower which I bought from Wickes about 30
years ago. They do wobble a bit even with the outriggers fitted. The
most interesting experience was fitting 8 x 3.5 ft double glazed window
panels with a slight breeze. Nowadays, I'd buy a wider more robust tower
as the access hatch is rather small.

I think that last statement was code for "I've become a bit of a fat
*******." :-)

Not an insult BTW. I'd say most of us in this news group who would have
been able to make such an investment 30 years ago, myself included, will
have come to the same conclusion in regard of their own physique today.

I haven't. I can still wear what I used to be able to wear and still take
the same
sized clothes.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:58:45 +0000, Johnny B Good wrote:

I think that last statement was code for "I've become a bit of a fat
*******."

Not an insult BTW. I'd say most of us in this news group who would
have
been able to make such an investment 30 years ago, myself included, will
have come to the same conclusion in regard of their own physique today.

We have a rather small access hatch (space between two joists) in the
ceiling space of our single story kitchen.

When we moved in 22 years ago, I did a lot of work up there. I would have
to get someone in now.

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Johnny B Good wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:42:13 +0100, Capitol wrote:


wrote:

On 17/08/2016 14:40, John Rumm wrote:

On 17/08/2016 12:48, wrote:

On 17/08/2016 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
... snipped


Mate, a platform is not that expensive to BUY.

I bought one to do my guttering.




I've been tempted to do the same - which did you buy and have you
been pleased with it?


I got an Ali one recently from BPS:

https://laddersandscaffoldtowers.co....rade-Scaffold-

Towers.html


Not made extensive use of it yet, but with what I have done it seems
pretty good. Quick and easy to assemble and feels solid in use.





They look interesting, although working at 5 or 6 metres with such a
small width seems slightly worrying, even with outriggers. There's a
job coming up that I was going to pay someone to do (against my
religion, usually) and the saving would pay for one of these towers.
Hmmm!

Yes, I have a similar tower which I bought from Wickes about 30
years ago. They do wobble a bit even with the outriggers fitted. The
most interesting experience was fitting 8 x 3.5 ft double glazed window
panels with a slight breeze. Nowadays, I'd buy a wider more robust tower
as the access hatch is rather small.

I think that last statement was code for "I've become a bit of a fat
*******." :-)

Not an insult BTW. I'd say most of us in this news group who would have
been able to make such an investment 30 years ago, myself included, will
have come to the same conclusion in regard of their own physique today.


Thanks for the compliment. I'm a lot less agile than I was and
putting it up to full height is a bit of a struggle. However, I did
build it a dedicated storage shed a couple of years ago and added a
vertical ladder storage facility last year. This makes it easier to get
at both when necessary.

Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:58:45 +0000, Johnny B Good wrote:


I think that last statement was code for "I've become a bit of a fat
*******."

Not an insult BTW. I'd say most of us in this news group who would
have
been able to make such an investment 30 years ago, myself included, will
have come to the same conclusion in regard of their own physique today.

We have a rather small access hatch (space between two joists) in the
ceiling space of our single story kitchen.

When we moved in 22 years ago, I did a lot of work up there. I would have
to get someone in now.


When I built the extension, I left a 12in gap for access. I can
still just get into it!

On 18/08/2016 15:59, GB wrote:
On 17-Aug-16 7:18 PM, John Rumm wrote:

Yup it will wobble about a bit, but hopefully not fall down. As with any
portable access device, it feels a whole lot better when tied on at the
top!


Should houses have eyes in the brickwork for this purpose? It wouldn't
be expensive, and I'm sure that Elfin Safety would approve.

Its a nice idea, but you are probably better of making your own fixing
when you need it than you are relying on one that's been there for
umpteen years in the weather.


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The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 18/08/16 15:59, GB wrote:
On 17-Aug-16 7:18 PM, John Rumm wrote:

Yup it will wobble about a bit, but hopefully not fall down. As with any
portable access device, it feels a whole lot better when tied on at the
top!


Should houses have eyes in the brickwork for this purpose? It wouldn't
be expensive, and I'm sure that Elfin Safety would approve.


They are called windows


Not always a window where you want to secure something.

I've got one of the towers John links to, not sure it came from
them but seems to be the same one ( mine is Branded Speedy 80,
though it wasn't advertised as such, they are available from
various sellers).

I'm happy with it, sure not quite as good in terms of rigidity as
the pro one I hired once, but I find it fine. (Have the
outriggers and adjustable feet) . I've used it happily working
upto about 6-7 metres.





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On 8/16/2016 3:34 PM, wrote:
Hi again,

I want to cut a hole for a new window in my house. It's got fairly
standard cavity walls, built of concrete blocks. Actually the blocks
are somewhat non-standard as they have foam insulation inside them (I
mean inside the actual blocks - not inside the wall's cavity.) The
only masonry-cutting tool I own is a 9" angle grinder. This will cut
concrete blocks no problem, but only to about 3" deep. I suppose
could hire a 300mm grinder for about £28 a day plus the cost of the
cutting disk which I'm guessing won't be at all cheap.

Rotary grinders in general make an insane amount of dust. Is there
any other tool that anyone can recommend? (I'm visualising something
like a very large jig-saw with a diamond blade...)

Thanks for any tips you can offer,

JD



Use the angle grinder to give you some guide cuts .. and then set to it
with bolster & lump hammer.