Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/

--
Peter is listening to The Who - Behind Blue Eyes

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

The classic WW2 prismatic compass gives several thousand counts per
second from its luminous paint, easily enough to trigger the detectors
on nuclear power station personal monitors.

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

--
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"newshound" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks. One
guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was consistently
showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he took his film
badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

The classic WW2 prismatic compass gives several thousand counts per second
from its luminous paint, easily enough to trigger the detectors on nuclear
power station personal monitors.

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

--
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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/

--
Peter is listening to The Who - Behind Blue Eyes

On 20/02/2015 16:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700

--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a second, same as with any other page.

Here's the CPU usage for loading the page in Opera 12 and in the latest IE: http://petersphotos.com/temp/Usage%20(2).jpg

Not particularly intensive is it?

It does prove though that M$ software is half as efficient!

--
The dress doesn't make you look fat. It's that ice cream and chocolate you eat that makes you look fat.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

Here's 4:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181280751364
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171268822740
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201290452844
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121572470455

--
The dress doesn't make you look fat. It's that ice cream and chocolate you eat that makes you look fat.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

But if it were a watch....

--
If European immigrants voluntarily went to America and it turned out like that,
how come Britain sent a load of convicts to Australia and it turned out better?

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different chemical that glows? You have to "charge" it in light first - I assume that didn't happen with radioactive paint. My Casio watch for example has luminous hands, very useful at night, I don't have to press the light button on it. They are much brighter if it's just had a lamp shone on it.

--
History teaches us that no other cause has brought more death than the word of god. -- Giulian Buzila

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

--
A drunk was in front of a judge. The judge says, "You've been brought here for drinking."
The drunk says, "Okay, let's get started."

On 20/02/2015 16:41, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 20/02/2015 16:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700



It's worth viewing a few Youtube videos. Not all devices on the market
live up to expectations and/or advertising hype. It may be one piece of
equipment where 'you get what you pay for it' really applies.

--
mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On 20/02/15 16:26, Brian Gaff wrote:
What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?

Tritium

I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


You have to "charge" it in light first - I assume
that didn't happen with radioactive paint.

Correct - the old type was radium based (usually).

My Casio watch for example
has luminous hands, very useful at night, I don't have to press the
light button on it. They are much brighter if it's just had a lamp
shone on it.

On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/



When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:34:47 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/



When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

Is this to remind you how much you're saving by not smoking?

--
When shagging a goat you are best taking it to the edge of a cliff because they push back harder. -- Billy Connelly

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:34:23 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


You have to "charge" it in light first - I assume
that didn't happen with radioactive paint.

Correct - the old type was radium based (usually).

I don't think I've ever seen any radium stuff then. Every glowing thing I've seen (the first was 35 years ago, a wind up alarm clock - "Baby Ben") charged up with light.

--
When shagging a goat you are best taking it to the edge of a cliff because they push back harder. -- Billy Connelly

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

--
If you eat a judge's uniform you might contract a lawsuit.

On 20/02/2015 17:28, alan_m wrote:
On 20/02/2015 16:41, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 20/02/2015 16:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700



It's worth viewing a few Youtube videos. Not all devices on the market
live up to expectations and/or advertising hype. It may be one piece of
equipment where 'you get what you pay for it' really applies.


If you follow the link to the bit about choosing a Geiger counter, it
includes the following text:

'none of the instruments that we are involved with are intended for
safety-critical or health and safety related applications.'


--
Colin Bignell

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it?

Bet it was the latter.

Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

Plenty put stuff like keys in an ashtray, presumably
because they are less likely to fall off that way.

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:41:30 +0000, Nightjar.me.uk wrote:

I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all
find out
the truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700

ARGH! Toys and more toys!

Be aware that the ex-cold war meters are designed to detect and
measure the fallout from nuclear bombs, this is somewhat hotter than
natural background radiation. They might not be sensitive enough, see
text of the PDRM 82. The PDRM 82 is a bit of well made, tough as old
boots, kit.

The Smartphone plugin looks intriguing but the blurb isn't that
convincing about background radiation.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

--
Colin Bignell

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me, a non-smoker tolerating a smoker? According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers are the devil reincarnated.

--
Never have I seen a word as accurate as politics.
Poly meaning many, and tic being a blood-sucking thing.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at, can't you find something else for that purpose?

--
Those who jump off a bridge in Paris are in Seine.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:58:01 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

Doesn't the text reader only process the part which any other browser has already determined is text? So the only additional work his computer is doing over mine, is to read out the text I can see, same as if it were in notepad or Word.

--
How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

can't you find something else for that
purpose?

The pots Stilton come in are also very useful.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/02/2015 18:08, Rod Speed wrote:
....
I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

I thought that was what old tin cans were for.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/02/2015 18:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:41:30 +0000, Nightjar.me.uk wrote:

I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all
find out
the truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700

ARGH! Toys and more toys!

Be aware that the ex-cold war meters are designed to detect and
measure the fallout from nuclear bombs, this is somewhat hotter than
natural background radiation. They might not be sensitive enough, see
text of the PDRM 82. The PDRM 82 is a bit of well made, tough as old
boots, kit.

The CD V-700 looks a lot like a counter I recall from a stand at
something like the Ideal Home Exhibition, probably in the 1950s. Anybody
with a luminous watch (like me) was asked to put it near the sensor. The
clicks were fed through a speaker, so you could hear them increase
rapidly as the watch got near.

The Smartphone plugin looks intriguing but the blurb isn't that
convincing about background radiation.

They say that nothing on the site should be used for safety critical
purposes.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/



Gilbert maintained that nothing in the set could possibly ever be
dangerous. Not sure whether he included the toxicity of Polonium in that
consideration though.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/02/2015 16:26, Brian Gaff wrote:
What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

Trimfones used a fair amount of tritium. I believe during the cleanup of
Harwell (it might have been another government site) a rather active
hole in the ground was discovered where, it turns out, a significant
number of these phones had been dumped.

Sealed tritium sources are safe enough, you can still buy them as small
long-lasting light sources used by extreme campers / sailors etc, but
not in the UK.

On 20/02/2015 18:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:

The Smartphone plugin looks intriguing but the blurb isn't that
convincing about background radiation.


If you find the chinese/english manual (one sheet pamplet) or reviews
for the smartphone plugin you may find that you wouldn't want to waste
your money. It seems to pick up physical (slight) vibration to the
sensor more than it picks up radiation.

Many of the cheap devices only seem to be sensitive enough to pick up
(gamma) radiation levels that may be hazardous to health. They were/are
intended for nuclear war use so you could avoid the hot spots.

--
mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:45:23 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/



Gilbert maintained that nothing in the set could possibly ever be
dangerous. Not sure whether he included the toxicity of Polonium in that
consideration though.

It of course depends on the amounts of the substances in the toy, and how they're used. When I was at high school we did radiation experiments. The material was kept in lead boxes, and the radiation came out directionally from the container through a hole. A teacher once told me that all the safety measures we were taking were just for educational purposes, and the amount of stuff we were handling would probably only remotely harm us if we actually ate it.

--
A conscience just costs you money.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:07:24 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

Can you link to an example of it?

can't you find something else for that
purpose?

The pots Stilton come in are also very useful.

Like these? http://www.cheshirecheesecompany.co....ffer-p-74.html
Look like urns!

--
When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her.

"Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

Does it still work wonders?

can't you find something else for that
purpose?

The pots Stilton come in are also very useful.

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:36:50 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

If the cat misbehaves, they have a handle at the back.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

Why would he choose to have something ugly as an ornament?

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Nurse: "I did! He said his family already knows his name."

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:34:52 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

Twas in uk.legal. A discussion about banning smoking in public areas.

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