Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly
dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/




When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

I have a wonderful ashtray that bears the legend "Watneys Red Barrel,
It's the same wherever you are.' I use it to hold used teabags.

Bill

Rod Speed wrote:

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

Surely non-smokers do not allow smoking in their houses! I'd go bloody mad!

Bill

On 20/02/2015 19:09, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 20/02/2015 18:08, Rod Speed wrote:
....
I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

I thought that was what old tin cans were for.



When smoking was allowed in pubs ashtrays were always used as the
rubbish bins for crisp packets. The real ash tray was the floor as can
still be seen in the outdoor areas of pubs where the bins provided for
the disposal of fag buts are universally ignored by smokers.

--
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:27:33 -0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly
dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/




When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

I have a wonderful ashtray that bears the legend "Watneys Red Barrel,
It's the same wherever you are.' I use it to hold used teabags.

Having looked through pictures of several Watneys ashtrays, I can't see one I'd like. Can't find yours though.


--
I just took a leaflet out of my mailbox, informing me that I can have sex at 75.
I'm so happy, because I live at number 71.
So it's not too far to walk home afterwards. And it's the same side of the street.
I don't even have to cross the road!

"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2015 18:08, Rod Speed wrote:
...
I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

I thought that was what old tin cans were for.

Don't get many of those at all anymore, just
the tomatoes I use to make the relish now.

Stubbys are a lot better anyway, if you knock
them over, nothing comes out even if they are
full of dead butts.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:36:50 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

If the cat misbehaves, they have a handle at the back.

Much more viable to throw a granite ashtray at it.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

Why would he choose to have something ugly as an ornament?

It isnt an ornament, its for throwing at the cat, stupid.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:34:52 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers
are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

Twas in uk.legal.

A likely story.

A discussion about banning smoking in public areas.

That was actually about smoking kippers in public areas, stupid.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:20:53 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:

The symbol # is called an octothorpe.
(A whimsical creation based on the idea that the symbol
looks like a village surrounded by eight fields)

No, it's for playing microscopic noughts-and-crosses on.

You mean atomic noughts and crosses.

--
In 1272, the Arabic Muslims invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British refined the idea by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:22:07 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:36:50 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

If the cat misbehaves, they have a handle at the back.

Much more viable to throw a granite ashtray at it.

Much more fun to swing a cat.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

Why would he choose to have something ugly as an ornament?

It isnt an ornament, its for throwing at the cat, stupid.

What's wrong with a brick?

--
While most Americans believe that getting rid of religion is an impossible goal, much of the developed world has already accomplished it. Any account of a €�god gene€œ that causes the majority of Americans to helplessly organize their lives around ancient works of religious fiction must explain why so many inhabitants of other First World societies apparently lack such a gene. The level of atheism throughout the rest of the developed world refutes any argument that religion is somehow a moral necessity. Countries like Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on Earth. According to the United Nations Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by measures of life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate and infant mortality. Conversely, the 50 nations now ranked lowest in
terms of human development are unwaveringly religious.
--Sam Harris (An Atheist Manifesto)

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:24:43 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:34:52 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers
are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

Twas in uk.legal.

A likely story.

Go look.

A discussion about banning smoking in public areas.

That was actually about smoking kippers in public areas, stupid.

Is that a euphemism?

--
If "con" is the opposite of "pro", then what is the opposite of progress?

Bill Wright wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

Surely non-smokers do not allow smoking in their houses!

Plenty do. Me too.

I'd go bloody mad!

I've been completely mad for a long time now.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:22:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:36:50 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

If the cat misbehaves, they have a handle at the back.

Much more viable to throw a granite ashtray at it.

Much more fun to swing a cat.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

Why would he choose to have something ugly as an ornament?

It isnt an ornament, its for throwing at the cat, stupid.

What's wrong with a brick?

Those are for ****ting, stupid.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:24:43 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:34:52 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers
are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

Twas in uk.legal.

A likely story.

Go look.

Get stuffed.

A discussion about banning smoking in public areas.

That was actually about smoking kippers in public areas, stupid.

Is that a euphemism?

Nope, a health hazard.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:43:28 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:24:43 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:34:52 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think smokers
are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

Twas in uk.legal.

A likely story.

Go look.

Get stuffed.

Your loss.

A discussion about banning smoking in public areas.

That was actually about smoking kippers in public areas, stupid.

Is that a euphemism?

Nope, a health hazard.

Whatever you're drinking I want some.

--
We've come so far that community service is considered punishment.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:42:34 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:22:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:36:50 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

If the cat misbehaves, they have a handle at the back.

Much more viable to throw a granite ashtray at it.

Much more fun to swing a cat.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

Why would he choose to have something ugly as an ornament?

It isnt an ornament, its for throwing at the cat, stupid.

What's wrong with a brick?

Those are for ****ting, stupid.

We have clean water over here, we don't get so many intestinal problems.

--
I just took a leaflet out of my mailbox, informing me that I can have sex at 75.
I'm so happy, because I live at number 71.
So it's not too far to walk home afterwards. And it's the same side of the street.
I don't even have to cross the road!

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:43:28 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:24:43 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:34:52 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:08:07 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

Well **** me,

No thanks, you deviate.

a non-smoker tolerating a smoker?

Yep, always have done.

According to the people in these newsgroups, non-smokers think
smokers
are
the devil reincarnated.

Nope, just fools.

Twas in uk.legal.

A likely story.

Go look.

Get stuffed.

Your loss.

Wrong, as always.

A discussion about banning smoking in public areas.

That was actually about smoking kippers in public areas, stupid.

Is that a euphemism?

Nope, a health hazard.

Whatever you're drinking I want some.

You don't qualify.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:42:34 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:22:07 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:36:50 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

Handy for throwing at the cat tho, particularly the granite ones.

If the cat misbehaves, they have a handle at the back.

Much more viable to throw a granite ashtray at it.

Much more fun to swing a cat.

can't you find something else for that purpose?

Corse he can, but chooses not to.

Why would he choose to have something ugly as an ornament?

It isnt an ornament, its for throwing at the cat, stupid.

What's wrong with a brick?

Those are for ****ting, stupid.

We have clean water over here, we don't get so many intestinal problems.

But you have all those feelthy foreigners and their curry.

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at, can't you find something else for that
purpose?


Google granite ashtrays pictures and see.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


It's not luminous, it's phosphorescent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

No radioactivity invloved

On 20/02/2015 20:54, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:07:24 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

Can you link to an example of it?

Oddly enough, the one I have, which is in the form of two interlinked
Ds, giving two tray areas, doesn't seem to feature in any of the images
I can find of Double Diamond ashtrays.


can't you find something else for that
purpose?

The pots Stilton come in are also very useful.

Like these?
http://www.cheshirecheesecompany.co....ffer-p-74.html

Look like urns!

Far too fancy. Mine are more like brown stoneware ramekins.


--
Colin Bignell

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter, the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 07:47:09 -0000, harryagain wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


It's not luminous, it's phosphorescent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

No radioactivity invloved

Ah. Although they aways say luminous on the product. I guess it's a more commonly known word.

Phosphorescence to me makes me think of fluorescent tubes.

--
When you want a man to play with you, wear a full-length black nightgown with buttons all over it.
Sure it's uncomfortable, but it makes you look just like his remote control.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:25:09 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 07:47:09 -0000, harryagain
wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you strapped it to yourself for a while though.

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes

It's not luminous, it's phosphorescent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

No radioactivity involved

Ah. Although they aways say luminous on the product. I guess it's a more
commonly known word.

Luminous covers all of the above; it's more general.

Phosphorescence to me makes me think of fluorescent tubes.

Fluorescent - when a substance absorbs a photon of UV or X-ray and
emits it at a longer (e.g. visible) wavelength.

Phosphorescent - light emitted by a substance without combustion or
perceptible heat e.g. glowworms or fireflies.

Luminous just means something is brighter than you'd expect given the
ambient light. It tells you nothing about how the object is producing
the extra light.

Phosphors in the tube fluoresce then, and not phosphoresce :-)

--
All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter, the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a nuclear bomb.

--
If there's one thing I can't stand, it's intolerance.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:29:45 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 20:54, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:07:24 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

Can you link to an example of it?

Oddly enough, the one I have, which is in the form of two interlinked
Ds, giving two tray areas, doesn't seem to feature in any of the images
I can find of Double Diamond ashtrays.

Do you have a digital camera?

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:21:43 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at, can't you find something else for that
purpose?


Google granite ashtrays pictures and see.

Nope, don't like them one bit. Too plain for an ornament.

--
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On 20/02/2015 18:24, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:58:01 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

Doesn't the text reader only process the part which any other browser
has already determined is text? So the only additional work his
computer is doing over mine, is to read out the text I can see, same as
if it were in notepad or Word.


Brian is probably best placed to answer questions on what his browser
does, but that page is packed with image based links, which I expect
would all need to be converted to text equivalents. I don't know what
his browser does with scripts, but there are a lot of those on that page
and the audio from the advert may well delay the text being read out.

--
Colin Bignell

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:47:55 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 18:24, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:58:01 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

Doesn't the text reader only process the part which any other browser
has already determined is text? So the only additional work his
computer is doing over mine, is to read out the text I can see, same as
if it were in notepad or Word.

Brian is probably best placed to answer questions on what his browser
does, but that page is packed with image based links, which I expect
would all need to be converted to text equivalents.

Ah now that makes sense.

I don't know what
his browser does with scripts, but there are a lot of those on that page
and the audio from the advert may well delay the text being read out.

If there was an advert I didn't see it as I have a very good ad blocker :-)

--
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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

On 21/02/2015 17:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:29:45 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 20:54, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:07:24 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

Can you link to an example of it?

Oddly enough, the one I have, which is in the form of two interlinked
Ds, giving two tray areas, doesn't seem to feature in any of the images
I can find of Double Diamond ashtrays.

Do you have a digital camera?

Yes, but not the will to register with a site that would allow me to
upload images from it to the web.

--
Colin Bignell

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:19:17 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me..uk cpb wrote:

On 21/02/2015 17:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:29:45 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 20:54, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:07:24 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 18:23, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:05:26 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for..

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are
remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

They aren't very nice to look at,

I particularly like the look of the Double Diamond one I have.

Can you link to an example of it?

Oddly enough, the one I have, which is in the form of two interlinked
Ds, giving two tray areas, doesn't seem to feature in any of the images
I can find of Double Diamond ashtrays.

Do you have a digital camera?

Yes, but not the will to register with a site that would allow me to
upload images from it to the web.

You don't have your own? Luddite :-P

You can also put attachments in here, it'll just **** off the geeks.

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:05:05 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



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news
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

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Can fat people go skinny-dipping?

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:05:05 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:20:40 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:05:05 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!


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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!

Nope.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:31:44 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:20:40 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:05:05 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked at today. I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter,
ie one that ticks. Not seen any though, maybe they are not allowed
in case we all find out the truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter, the type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle,
but i noticed it disappeared from their catalogue probably 10
or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!

Nearly right. Try "Are too Dee too".

While remembering the wrong robot, I was reminded of a comedy show where a Dalek said "two?!?" when someone told it how many condoms he wanted. I couldn't find that clip but found this: http://youtu.be/xWqoB6Ujj80

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news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!

Nope.

Please make more interesting replies. And you can't repeat words you already used.

--
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No one's tall enough to go on the good rides.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff

wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one
I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find
out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building
a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!

Nope.

Please make more interesting replies.

You don't qualify.

And you can't repeat words you already used.

Wrong, as always.

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 00:13:18 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



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news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff

wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one
I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find
out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building
a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!

Nope.

Please make more interesting replies.

You don't qualify.

And you can't repeat words you already used.

Wrong, as always.

I make the rules, you're from the colony.

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news On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff

wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one
I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one
that
ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find
out
the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger
counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to
building
a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.

It wouldn't surprise me. There are billions of laws nowadays.

Nope.

Are too!

Nope.

Please make more interesting replies.

You don't qualify.

And you can't repeat words you already used.

Wrong, as always.

I make the rules,

Nope, you dregs that didn't even have enough
initiative to leave that soggy little island don't
get to make any rules at all, ever.

you're from the colony.

That is doing a hell of a lot better than that soggy little island.

So did the US in spades.