Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/

--
Peter is listening to The Who - Behind Blue Eyes

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

The classic WW2 prismatic compass gives several thousand counts per
second from its luminous paint, easily enough to trigger the detectors
on nuclear power station personal monitors.

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

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"newshound" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks. One
guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was consistently
showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he took his film
badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

The classic WW2 prismatic compass gives several thousand counts per second
from its luminous paint, easily enough to trigger the detectors on nuclear
power station personal monitors.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

But if it were a watch....

--
If European immigrants voluntarily went to America and it turned out like that,
how come Britain sent a load of convicts to Australia and it turned out better?

On 20/02/2015 17:04, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

But if it were a watch....

Radium paint is predominantly an emitter of alpha rays, as these have
only a short range through matter due to their large mass and high
charge, they would be stopped by the glass and metal of the watch.

The tritium gas used in trimphones are beta emitters, but the energies
are quite low, so they're all absorbed by the phosphor coated glass tubes.

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:39:49 -0000, Jim Newman wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:04, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

But if it were a watch....

Radium paint is predominantly an emitter of alpha rays, as these have
only a short range through matter due to their large mass and high
charge, they would be stopped by the glass and metal of the watch.

The tritium gas used in trimphones are beta emitters, but the energies
are quite low, so they're all absorbed by the phosphor coated glass tubes.

My late grandparents had a trimphone. Never did them any harm.

--
Anybody who claims that marriage is a fifty-fifty proposition doesn't know a damned thing about women or fractions.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different chemical that glows? You have to "charge" it in light first - I assume that didn't happen with radioactive paint. My Casio watch for example has luminous hands, very useful at night, I don't have to press the light button on it. They are much brighter if it's just had a lamp shone on it.

--
History teaches us that no other cause has brought more death than the word of god. -- Giulian Buzila

On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


You have to "charge" it in light first - I assume
that didn't happen with radioactive paint.

Correct - the old type was radium based (usually).

My Casio watch for example
has luminous hands, very useful at night, I don't have to press the
light button on it. They are much brighter if it's just had a lamp
shone on it.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:34:23 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


You have to "charge" it in light first - I assume
that didn't happen with radioactive paint.

Correct - the old type was radium based (usually).

I don't think I've ever seen any radium stuff then. Every glowing thing I've seen (the first was 35 years ago, a wind up alarm clock - "Baby Ben") charged up with light.

--
When shagging a goat you are best taking it to the edge of a cliff because they push back harder. -- Billy Connelly

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/15 17:05, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:26:40 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous
unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

You can buy all sorts of luminous stuff nowadays - is there a different
chemical that glows?

Yes


It's not luminous, it's phosphorescent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

No radioactivity invloved

On 20/02/15 16:26, Brian Gaff wrote:
What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?

Tritium

I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

On 20/02/2015 16:26, Brian Gaff wrote:
What about the trimfones btalite gas filled tube behind the dial?
I can recall being rather appalled back in the 60s when we found my
grandfathers old alarm clock in a drawer, still glowing from dots of
something or other after 10 years. I doubt it would be adangerous unless you
strapped it to yourself for a while though.


We binned it.
Brian

Trimfones used a fair amount of tritium. I believe during the cleanup of
Harwell (it might have been another government site) a rather active
hole in the ground was discovered where, it turns out, a significant
number of these phones had been dumped.

Sealed tritium sources are safe enough, you can still buy them as small
long-lasting light sources used by extreme campers / sailors etc, but
not in the UK.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

--
A drunk was in front of a judge. The judge says, "You've been brought here for drinking."
The drunk says, "Okay, let's get started."

On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/



When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:34:47 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/



When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

Is this to remind you how much you're saving by not smoking?

--
When shagging a goat you are best taking it to the edge of a cliff because they push back harder. -- Billy Connelly

Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly
dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/




When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

I have a wonderful ashtray that bears the legend "Watneys Red Barrel,
It's the same wherever you are.' I use it to hold used teabags.

Bill

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:27:33 -0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/02/15 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly
dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/




When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it? Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


I have an ashtray full of coins.

I have a wonderful ashtray that bears the legend "Watneys Red Barrel,
It's the same wherever you are.' I use it to hold used teabags.

Having looked through pictures of several Watneys ashtrays, I can't see one I'd like. Can't find yours though.


--
I just took a leaflet out of my mailbox, informing me that I can have sex at 75.
I'm so happy, because I live at number 71.
So it's not too far to walk home afterwards. And it's the same side of the street.
I don't even have to cross the road!

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

--
If you eat a judge's uniform you might contract a lawsuit.

On 20/02/2015 17:49, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

I suspect most people acquire the odd one or two and they are remarkably
useful receptacles for oddments.

--
Colin Bignell

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:45:13 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 17:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
...Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in
ashtrays.


That is one thing an ashtray in my house would not be used for.

Don't most non-smokers just not have ashtrays?

Plenty do, for visitors.

I use what we call stubbys for visitors ashtrays.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it?

Bet it was the latter.

Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

Plenty put stuff like keys in an ashtray, presumably
because they are less likely to fall off that way.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:57:16 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it?

Bet it was the latter.

Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

Plenty put stuff like keys in an ashtray, presumably
because they are less likely to fall off that way.

Can't afford a hook?

--
Stress is the conflict which occurs when your mind prevents your body from beating the living daylights out of whoever got in your way.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:57:16 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it?

Bet it was the latter.

Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

Plenty put stuff like keys in an ashtray, presumably
because they are less likely to fall off that way.

Can't afford a hook?

--
Stress is the conflict which occurs when your mind prevents your body from beating the living daylights out of whoever got in your way.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:57:16 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:17:38 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 20/02/2015 14:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly
dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/


When I first worked in a nuclear research lab, people often took their
film badges home with them; I'm not even sure there were proper racks.
One guy came to the attention of Health Physics because he was
consistently showing higher doses than his co-workers. Turned out he
took his film badge home and placed it in a granite ash-tray overnight.

Did he know he was increasing it? I mean did he do it on purpose for a
laugh or to annoy them in some way, or was it just a convenient place to
put it?

Bet it was the latter.

Most people don't place anything other than cigarettes in ashtrays.

Plenty put stuff like keys in an ashtray, presumably
because they are less likely to fall off that way.

Can't afford a hook?

Hooks cost less than ashtrays, stupid.

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

--
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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
Kinda makes a mockery of the little slightly might be possibly dangerous
things that H&S goes for nowadays, I guess they're bored.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/9723830/...isplay-museum/

--
Peter is listening to The Who - Behind Blue Eyes

On 20/02/2015 16:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/02/2015 16:41, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 20/02/2015 16:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700



It's worth viewing a few Youtube videos. Not all devices on the market
live up to expectations and/or advertising hype. It may be one piece of
equipment where 'you get what you pay for it' really applies.

--
mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On 20/02/2015 17:28, alan_m wrote:
On 20/02/2015 16:41, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 20/02/2015 16:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700



It's worth viewing a few Youtube videos. Not all devices on the market
live up to expectations and/or advertising hype. It may be one piece of
equipment where 'you get what you pay for it' really applies.


If you follow the link to the bit about choosing a Geiger counter, it
includes the following text:

'none of the instruments that we are involved with are intended for
safety-critical or health and safety related applications.'


--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:41:30 +0000, Nightjar.me.uk wrote:

I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all
find out
the truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700

ARGH! Toys and more toys!

Be aware that the ex-cold war meters are designed to detect and
measure the fallout from nuclear bombs, this is somewhat hotter than
natural background radiation. They might not be sensitive enough, see
text of the PDRM 82. The PDRM 82 is a bit of well made, tough as old
boots, kit.

The Smartphone plugin looks intriguing but the blurb isn't that
convincing about background radiation.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 20/02/2015 18:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:41:30 +0000, Nightjar.me.uk wrote:

I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks.
Not seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all
find out
the truth.

Available here, although ex-cold war and not calibrated:

http://www.anythingradioactive.com/geiger.htm#classic 700

ARGH! Toys and more toys!

Be aware that the ex-cold war meters are designed to detect and
measure the fallout from nuclear bombs, this is somewhat hotter than
natural background radiation. They might not be sensitive enough, see
text of the PDRM 82. The PDRM 82 is a bit of well made, tough as old
boots, kit.

The CD V-700 looks a lot like a counter I recall from a stand at
something like the Ideal Home Exhibition, probably in the 1950s. Anybody
with a luminous watch (like me) was asked to put it near the sensor. The
clicks were fed through a speaker, so you could hear them increase
rapidly as the watch got near.

The Smartphone plugin looks intriguing but the blurb isn't that
convincing about background radiation.

They say that nothing on the site should be used for safety critical
purposes.

--
Colin Bignell

On 20/02/2015 18:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:

The Smartphone plugin looks intriguing but the blurb isn't that
convincing about background radiation.


If you find the chinese/english manual (one sheet pamplet) or reviews
for the smartphone plugin you may find that you wouldn't want to waste
your money. It seems to pick up physical (slight) vibration to the
sensor more than it picks up radiation.

Many of the cheap devices only seem to be sensitive enough to pick up
(gamma) radiation levels that may be hazardous to health. They were/are
intended for nuclear war use so you could avoid the hot spots.

--
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a second, same as with any other page.

Here's the CPU usage for loading the page in Opera 12 and in the latest IE: http://petersphotos.com/temp/Usage%20(2).jpg

Not particularly intensive is it?

It does prove though that M$ software is half as efficient!

--
The dress doesn't make you look fat. It's that ice cream and chocolate you eat that makes you look fat.

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

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Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:58:01 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

Doesn't the text reader only process the part which any other browser has already determined is text? So the only additional work his computer is doing over mine, is to read out the text I can see, same as if it were in notepad or Word.

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On 20/02/2015 18:24, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:58:01 -0000, Nightjar insert my surname
here.me.uk cpb wrote:

On 20/02/2015 16:58, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that
ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

What computer are you using? For me it appeared in a fraction of a
second, same as with any other page...

I suspect you are not using a computer that reads the text to you. Sites
need careful design if they are to be text reader friendly.

Doesn't the text reader only process the part which any other browser
has already determined is text? So the only additional work his
computer is doing over mine, is to read out the text I can see, same as
if it were in notepad or Word.


Brian is probably best placed to answer questions on what his browser
does, but that page is packed with image based links, which I expect
would all need to be converted to text equivalents. I don't know what
his browser does with scripts, but there are a lot of those on that page
and the audio from the advert may well delay the text being read out.

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Colin Bignell

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks. Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

Brian

Here's 4:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181280751364
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171268822740
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201290452844
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121572470455

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter, the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter, the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a nuclear bomb.

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:35:44 -0000, Gazz wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message news
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:32:44 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

That page is probably the most processor intensive and slow one I've
looked
at today.
I've always fancied an old fashioned Geiger counter, ie one that ticks.
Not
seen any though, maybe they are not allowed in case we all find out the
truth.

I can remember there used to be a Maplins kit to build a Geiger counter,
the
type that ticks and shows a reading on a needle, but i noticed it
disappeared from their catalogue probably 10 or more years ago,

Probably illegal

Nope.

based on the stupid idea that it could be used as an aid to building a
nuclear bomb.

Nope.