My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?


--
Colin Bignell

"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?



Yep.

Tim

On 03/10/14 18:02, Tim+ wrote:
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?



Yep.

Tim


I haven't.

I'm probably going to keep a bit of paper in there to remind me when I
have to renew mine (and insurance as it is the same month).

Might even print a "fake" disc for fun

But I intend to keep my last disc as a momento...

"Nightjar \"cpb\""@ insert my surname here wrote:

OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

I keep meaning to, but keep forgetting, it *is* OK to remove it ...

Andy Burns wrote in
o.uk:

"Nightjar \"cpb\""@ insert my surname here wrote:

OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet
expired?

I keep meaning to, but keep forgetting, it *is* OK to remove it ...




I see cars with very old Red Nose Day noses!

On 03/10/2014 17:56, Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?



I took my tax disc holder out of my car, as I didn't see the point of
having an empty one.

Bob H wrote:

I took my tax disc holder out of my car, as I didn't see the point of
having an empty one.

Presumably shares in Richbrook have plummeted?

In message , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname writes

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after
that. However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars
with tax discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have
removed the tax disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax
has not yet expired?



No. Not yet, might get around to it if I think about it at the right
moment.

Actually one is displaying a current tax disc (expires Jan 15) and the
other has an expired tax disc (expired Aug 14) The tax disc for the
latter car never made it into the car it seems :-)
--
Chris French

On 03/10/14 18:04, Tim Watts wrote:

Might even print a "fake" disc for fun
Yea a purple and gold one..



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On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 17:56:31 +0100, Nightjar \"cpb\"@ wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet
expired?

Me. Because I could.



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In article ,
Tim Watts writes:

But I intend to keep my last disc as a momento...

My tax disc holder has them all stacked behind each other.

I noticed Halfords are still selling tax disc holders...

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On 03/10/2014 17:56, "Nightjar \"cpb\""@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?



My road tax expired in June and I renwed it late and lost the paper disc
so it's still showing expired in June.

Tim W

Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?


I applied for the tax disk for Hil's mobility cart (required because it
is capable of 8mph) about six months ago. The tax disc came last week,
so I bought a tax disk holder for it yesterday, out of mad. I wonder if
that was the last one sold?

Bill

Tim+ wrote:
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?



Yep.

Tim

I'm keeping mine for ever.

Bill

On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 17:56:31 +0100, "Nightjar wrote:

... are there any here who have removed the tax disk holder from their
vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

ICBA. Might do it when it comes to renewal and I don't have a bit
paper to replace but I wouldn't like to bet on it. Might just leave
there because I can. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

Nightjar "cpb"@" wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after
that. However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars
with tax discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have
removed the tax disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax
has not yet expired?

It's not worth the bother of me removing it - I'll wait until the next
windscreen replacement!

In over 50 years of motoring, I've had access about 10 cars plus vans and
each ne has needed a screen replacement at sometime or other for reasons
from a bloody great stone thrown out of the twin rear wheels of a lorry,
heat expansion and kids throwing snowballs containing stones off two
bridges. To be fair though, I used to do a high mileage annual mileage which
has now dropped to about 14000 a year.

Cash

In message , Bill Wright
writes
Tim+ wrote:
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

Yep.
Tim

I'm keeping mine for ever.

Bill
I should hang on to it because you might need it again once they realise
just how easy it will be for any DIY number plate maker to avoid road
tax MOT and insurance.
--
bert

On 2014-10-03, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
Tim Watts writes:

But I intend to keep my last disc as a momento...

My tax disc holder has them all stacked behind each other.

I noticed Halfords are still selling tax disc holders...

Well, they have a stock of them, & customers can't come back & argue
that one was defective...

On 2014-10-03, Bob H wrote:

I took my tax disc holder out of my car, as I didn't see the point of
having an empty one.

Useful for holding non-sticky pay & display tickets in place?

I noticed Halfords are still selling tax disc holders...

In much of London at least there's an ever increasing need to display
proof of payment of the council tax supplement (usually a round bit of
paper labelled "resident's parking permit"). And few people adopt my
DIY approach of "whatever tape happens to be at hand" (which I may
change now I can retiure the tax disc).
--
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On 03/10/2014 17:56, "Nightjar \"cpb\""@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

Thinking of ebaying mine: 'heritage'? Some plonker will buy it.

--
F

Bill Wright wrote


Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?


I applied for the tax disk for Hil's mobility cart (required because it
is capable of 8mph) about six months ago. The tax disc came last week,
so I bought a tax disk holder for it yesterday, out of mad. I wonder if
that was the last one sold?


If it's not perforated, it might be worth something in 20 years...

bert wrote


In message , Bill Wright
writes
Tim+ wrote:
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

Yep.
Tim

I'm keeping mine for ever.

Bill
I should hang on to it because you might need it again once they realise
just how easy it will be for any DIY number plate maker to avoid road
tax MOT and insurance.


Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:28:48 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
Tim Watts writes:

But I intend to keep my last disc as a momento...

My tax disc holder has them all stacked behind each other.

I noticed Halfords are still selling tax disc holders...

A lot of employers provide parking permits in that format. Mine does (and
supplies a useless holder).

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On 03/10/2014 17:56, Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

Peeled mine off this morning and stuck it in the glove box... something
to show the grand kids if we ever have any...

In message , Adam Funk
writes
On 2014-10-03, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
Tim Watts writes:

But I intend to keep my last disc as a momento...

My tax disc holder has them all stacked behind each other.

I noticed Halfords are still selling tax disc holders...

Well, they have a stock of them, & customers can't come back & argue
that one was defective...

Will they fit them for you for a small fee?
--
bert

"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

I haven't displayed the tax disk on my motorbike for at least ten
years and probably quite a bit longer than that. It has never caused
any issues with the police.

Our car still has its tax disk displayed though.

--
Chris Green
·

Jabba wrote:
bert wrote


In message , Bill Wright
writes
Tim+ wrote:
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:
My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

Yep.
Tim

I'm keeping mine for ever.

Bill
I should hang on to it because you might need it again once they realise
just how easy it will be for any DIY number plate maker to avoid road
tax MOT and insurance.


Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

On 04/10/2014 04:05, F Murtz wrote:

Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

Pick another similar car (make, colour) and who's to tell?

If they had enough ANPR cameras around and some suitable data mining
software they could work out when there are duplicates (car X being seen
by two cameras 50 miles apart within 10 minutes) and flag for pulling
over, but that would require coordination between lots of different
departments, so would probably be pretty unlikely.

In article ,
Clive George writes:
On 04/10/2014 04:05, F Murtz wrote:

Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

Pick another similar car (make, colour) and who's to tell?

If they had enough ANPR cameras around and some suitable data mining
software they could work out when there are duplicates (car X being seen
by two cameras 50 miles apart within 10 minutes) and flag for pulling
over, but that would require coordination between lots of different
departments, so would probably be pretty unlikely.

About 20 years ago, I got a letter from DVLA telling me someone had
cloned my car's identity, and warning it might be in preparation for
another crime. I never heard anymore about it, and the person didn't
seem to rack up any parking or speeding fines. I did keep the letter
though, in case I did get any letters from car park operators or the
like.

There have been ANPR cameras on all the major traffic lights around
here for last couple of years.

--
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On 04/10/2014 04:34, Clive George wrote:
On 04/10/2014 04:05, F Murtz wrote:

Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

Pick another similar car (make, colour) and who's to tell?

If they had enough ANPR cameras around and some suitable data mining
software they could work out when there are duplicates (car X being seen
by two cameras 50 miles apart within 10 minutes) and flag for pulling
over, but that would require coordination between lots of different
departments, so would probably be pretty unlikely.

They have enough to do that.
If they are stupid they get a parking fine and then the dvla knows about
the duplicate and it can be flagged within a few weeks.

This no disc seems a strange way to proceed. If as we are all told, there
are many untaxed and uninsured people on the roads, a member of the public
could easily look at a vehicle and tell the authorities if it was expired.
Now however how would anyone know?

Brian

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"Nightjar "cpb"@" "insert my surname here wrote in message
...

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was no
point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?


--
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:31:49 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

This no disc seems a strange way to proceed. If as we are all told,
there are many untaxed and uninsured people on the roads, a member of
the public could easily look at a vehicle and tell the authorities if it
was expired.
Now however how would anyone know?

A tax disc didn't tell you anything about whether a car was insured
anyway.

Brian Gaff wrote:

a member of the public could easily look at a vehicle and tell the
authorities if it was expired. Now however how would anyone know?

One camera parked near a busy road can catch more evaders than a busy-body.

On 03/10/2014 17:56, "Nightjar \"cpb\""@ insert my surname here wrote:

My last road fund licence disc expired on 30th September, so there was
no point in my keeping the tax disc holder in the windscreen after that.
However, although they are no longer required, I see more cars with tax
discs on than without. OOI, are there any here who have removed the tax
disk holder from their vehicles, even though the tax has not yet expired?

Yes.


--
Peter Crosland

Reply address is valid

On 03/10/2014 8:28 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts writes:

But I intend to keep my last disc as a momento...

My tax disc holder has them all stacked behind each other.

I noticed Halfords are still selling tax disc holders...


I bought one as a joke present for SWMBO last year, which she is now
threatening to use now she doesn't have to trap the paper licence in it.
It's only plastic, and round the rim is printed "Yes I have paid my Tax.
Now go fix some f****** potholes". I noticed they're still for sale on
E-bay.

http://ebay.eu/ZEJmKR

--
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Bad or missing mouse driver. Sack the cat? (Y/N)

On 04/10/2014 08:31, Brian Gaff wrote:
This no disc seems a strange way to proceed. If as we are all told, there
are many untaxed and uninsured people on the roads, a member of the public
could easily look at a vehicle and tell the authorities if it was expired.
Now however how would anyone know?

Brian


The DVLA website will tell you (when it works- it doesn't seem to be
working this morning) tax and MOT status given a reg number and car make

--
Chris

On 04/10/2014 04:34, Clive George wrote:
On 04/10/2014 04:05, F Murtz wrote:

Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

Pick another similar car (make, colour) and who's to tell?

If they had enough ANPR cameras around and some suitable data mining
software they could work out when there are duplicates (car X being seen
by two cameras 50 miles apart within 10 minutes) and flag for pulling
over, but that would require coordination between lots of different
departments, so would probably be pretty unlikely.

The Police can interrogate the ANPR database. MY SIL does frequently in
order to track down scroats who don't appear in court. It enables him
to track journey patterns and times, so they just wait in the right place.

In Kent in 2010, the ANPR system 'read' over 220,000,000 plates and
'hit' on 560,000 that weren't taxed or insured.

Drugs/serious crime/immigration squads etc can have a particular plate
flagged so they get a report every time it is 'read'.




--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

F Murtz wrote




Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

Depends on how the plates are being used. Around here pikeys steal
number plates to steal fuel from self-serve garages. They take them off
immediately after they've been used.

Clive George wrote


On 04/10/2014 04:05, F Murtz wrote:

Pikeys have been cloning number plates for over a decade.

Would not NPR sort that out?

Pick another similar car (make, colour) and who's to tell?

If they had enough ANPR cameras around and some suitable data mining
software they could work out when there are duplicates (car X being seen
by two cameras 50 miles apart within 10 minutes) and flag for pulling
over, but that would require coordination between lots of different
departments, so would probably be pretty unlikely.


Ah - epic fail, since when have our police done joined up thinking.