I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they
have anything worth keeping on them.


any ideas? I've been searching, plentey of people in the US doing it at
high cost, but nobody here who looks reputable, ie is not just an unkown on
ebay.

Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active

Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Owain" wrote in message
...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to help
http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/f...splay.php?f=35

Owain

On Apr 27, 9:35*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
*I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.
*Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is *active"Owain" wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" *wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

In message
,
robgraham writes
On Apr 27, 9:35*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
*I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.
*Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is *active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" *wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.
Unless I've missed something, I thought the objection was the use of
Capcha in the registration process, which requires one not to have a
visual impairment. I certainly agree that the audio version is
impossible to use.

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

--
Nick (=----)

In message , Huge
writes

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

That'll be 38, then.

I know this is d-i-y but surely some kind soul who knows something about
tape decks could join, pose the problem and feed any useful answers back
to Brian?

--
Tim Lamb

[top posting for you Brian]

There's a guy on sci.electronics.repair who has posted there for many
years. He seems to repair mainly older and vintage stuff and has come
up with some clever fixes for kit where parts are no longer available.

He posts as N_Cook, email diverse AT tcp DOT co DOT uk

Has a website at http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/

Site is mainly text, so should be OK for you

Might be worth dropping him a line.

Mike

En el artículo , Brian Gaff
escribió:
I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they
have anything worth keeping on them.


any ideas? I've been searching, plentey of people in the US doing it at
high cost, but nobody here who looks reputable, ie is not just an unkown on
ebay.

Brian


--
(\_/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:50:57 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck

Well I have a Teac in the loft but whether it is working or not I don't
know.

... or someone to fix my old tandberg ...

Giving us a clue as to what is wrong with it might help.

... as I want to run through some tapes and see if they have anything
worth keeping on them.

That's why I still have my Teac, one day I'll get the tuit. Difference is
I know I have stuff I want to keep.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 27/04/13 11:46, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Huge
writes

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

That'll be 38, then.

I know this is d-i-y but surely some kind soul who knows something
about tape decks could join, pose the problem and feed any useful
answers back to Brian?

well I used to work on audio. What exactly IS the problem, Brian?

I have to say that once I was called upon to recover some recordings
made on WIRE. The wire recorder was no longer functioning and featured
valves, but the motors ran and the wires ran past the head..I simply
took the output direct from the head into a graphic equaliser and
transferred it all to cassette tape.

So if the Tandberg still is capable of running tape past the head, you
are halfway there.

Also reel-to-reel recorders appear from time to time on Ebay and are not
expensive.


£150 will net you a fully refurbed one, or less for ones in dubious
condition.

Finally a lot of places PROBABLY offer a 'tape to memory stick' type
service.



But I know what you mean.. I have a load of 120 negatives and 35mm
slides and negs that I dearly want to get around to scanning..this old
stuff neednt be thrown away IF you can get it into digital form.


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On 27/04/2013 09:51, Nick wrote:
In message
,
robgraham writes
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard
to use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I
wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the
audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or
somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see
if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.
Unless I've missed something, I thought the objection was the use of
Capcha in the registration process, which requires one not to have a
visual impairment. I certainly agree that the audio version is
impossible to use.

Even without visual impairment 2 out of 3 of them are impossible!

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

The signal to noise is generally considerably better in moderated or by
invitation only forums. The PITA is having to go and look there.

The OP could help a lot by describing where in the country he is based
as repair shops tend to be rather local. I suspect (though have not
checked) that Lintone audio will (for a price) if you ask nicely:

http://www.lintone.co.uk/servicing-20.html

They would certainly do it if they had sold you the kit.

Regards,
Martin Brown

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:50:57 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck

Well I have a Teac in the loft but whether it is working or not I don't
know.

... or someone to fix my old tandberg ...

Giving us a clue as to what is wrong with it might help.

... as I want to run through some tapes and see if they have anything
worth keeping on them.

That's why I still have my Teac, one day I'll get the tuit. Difference
is I know I have stuff I want to keep.

I have a working 1/4tk machine. And half track too. Speeds from 1 7/8 ths
to 15 ips.

Last time I did some transfers to CD as a favour, I was told the results
were very poor. Whereas it was the original tapes which were very poor -
the transfer was excellent. ;-)

Sadly, what was once sort of acceptable as an amateur recording many
years ago doesn't stand up well today - when kids can produce a perfectly
reasonable 'hi-fi' sound on their bedroom computer.

--
*I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Apr 27, 11:20*am, Huge wrote:
On 2013-04-27, robgraham wrote:


You are aware Brian is blind, aren't you? He uses a screen reader, which
I imagine gets very confused by the mountains of irrelevant ****e that
forums put on the screen.



--
Today is Boomtime, the 44th day of Discord in the YOLD 3179
* * * * * *"Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine"

Thanks, Huge - I wasn't. My apologies, Brian.

Rob

On Saturday, 27 April 2013 08:50:57 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone

to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they

have anything worth keeping on them.





any ideas? I've been searching, plentey of people in the US doing it at

high cost, but nobody here who looks reputable, ie is not just an unkown on

ebay.



Brian



--

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You could ask a local charity shop to contact you if they get offered one, which doubtless they would normally redirect to the tip. One charity shop, Red Cross IIRC, is actively requesting electronic stuff. Or some council tips themselves set saleable things aside. Explaining exactly what you want may be the difficult bit.

I have some tapes myself which just may contain recordings of my late parents/grandparents that I'd like to check out one day.

Somewhere in the loft I have a magnetic disk recorder (dictaphone), and some disks of correspondence between a grocery distributor and local shops that I must play with sometime.

Chris

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:50:57 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck

Well I have a Teac in the loft but whether it is working or not I don't
know.

... or someone to fix my old tandberg ...

Giving us a clue as to what is wrong with it might help.

... as I want to run through some tapes and see if they have anything
worth keeping on them.

That's why I still have my Teac, one day I'll get the tuit. Difference
is I know I have stuff I want to keep.

I have a working 1/4tk machine. And half track too. Speeds from 1 7/8 ths
to 15 ips.

Last time I did some transfers to CD as a favour, I was told the results
were very poor. Whereas it was the original tapes which were very poor -
the transfer was excellent. ;-)


Sadly, what was once sort of acceptable as an amateur recording many
years ago doesn't stand up well today - when kids can produce a perfectly
reasonable 'hi-fi' sound on their bedroom computer.


I've still got some tapes of an old steam driven fairground organ
recorded in the open air and some other stuff from many years ago and
when replayed everyone who has heard them is impressed at just how good
it does sound unlike what people are becoming used to, i.e. low bit
rates, too much audio processing tiny small headphones and the
like!,.....


As to Brian's original question yes some of this can be done but often
on consumer grade stuff its the problem of getting such as drive belts
and some other specialised parts like pinch rollers that can be
problematic.

You if you can't DIY need to find someone who is a recorder enthusiast
as commercially most all of the time its a non starter these days....


--
Tony Sayer

robgraham wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.

For a start, this is *not* a forum. It's a newsgroup. Text only, no
pictures or binaries, and you may like to search for "usenet" on google
to find out what a newsgroup is.

Newsgroups can be used fairly easily using a text to speech program,
whereas the spaghetti html code on most forum pages means that a screen
reader can't be used, and the only way to use them is via a visual
interface, which is not an option for Brian.

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Yes they are all that, but if you want to get removed from the forum
quickly, try answering a question where you know the answer, especially
if your knowledge differs from the opinions of the moderators.

To Brian, if we were closer, I have an Akai 3 speed, 4 track machine,
but I am in Stoke-On-Trent, unfortunately. If they are on reels bigger
than seven inches, I know someone with a Revox, but he's a touch busier
than I am.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Martin Brown wrote:
The OP could help a lot by describing where in the country he is based
as repair shops tend to be rather local. I suspect (though have not
checked) that Lintone audio will (for a price) if you ask nicely:

The OP lives in South West London, IIRC.


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Sadly, what was once sort of acceptable as an amateur recording many
years ago doesn't stand up well today - when kids can produce a
perfectly reasonable 'hi-fi' sound on their bedroom computer.


I've still got some tapes of an old steam driven fairground organ
recorded in the open air and some other stuff from many years ago and
when replayed everyone who has heard them is impressed at just how good
it does sound unlike what people are becoming used to, i.e. low bit
rates, too much audio processing tiny small headphones and the
like!,.....

Oh I know 1/4" tape could give excellent results. Sadly, too many worried
about the cost of tape so used slow speeds - and 1/4 track. And didn't
have much of an idea about how to use a microphone - which in any case was
often poor in itself.

--
*Wrinkled was not one of the things I wanted to be when I grew up

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

I'm reading on a reader not on google. It is the presentation in web format
which is often the killer for forums for the blind. Every one seems to have
a different arrangement of buttons all to be found and navigated to, and all
the text has to be typed in to whatever editor they provide, which may or
may not be easy to use with a screenreader. Hence I use this client for
usenet. I simply could not use it through Google Gropes excuse for an
interface.


Brian

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"robgraham" wrote in message
...
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to
use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I
wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio
one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or
somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if
they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

See what I said before.
I think its more than just the type in thingy, its because all the
different forums have different functions and one has to find them and
figure out how to use them each time.

Brian

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"Nick" wrote in message
...
In message
,
robgraham writes
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to
use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I
wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio
one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or
somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if
they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.
Unless I've missed something, I thought the objection was the use of
Capcha in the registration process, which requires one not to have a
visual impairment. I certainly agree that the audio version is impossible
to use.

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

--
Nick (=----)

I'm in SW London with no transport as blind can't drive!


Brian

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 27/04/2013 09:51, Nick wrote:
In message
,
robgraham writes
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard
to use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I
wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the
audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or
somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see
if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.
Unless I've missed something, I thought the objection was the use of
Capcha in the registration process, which requires one not to have a
visual impairment. I certainly agree that the audio version is
impossible to use.

Even without visual impairment 2 out of 3 of them are impossible!

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

The signal to noise is generally considerably better in moderated or by
invitation only forums. The PITA is having to go and look there.

The OP could help a lot by describing where in the country he is based as
repair shops tend to be rather local. I suspect (though have not checked)
that Lintone audio will (for a price) if you ask nicely:

http://www.lintone.co.uk/servicing-20.html

They would certainly do it if they had sold you the kit.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Its a rather specialist job doing tape decks from mostly companies that do
no longer make the beasts so have no spares. If you look up the US sites
that do it you can easily spend 1000 dolars for one that probably cost 300
dolares in the first place!

Brian

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 27/04/2013 09:51, Nick wrote:
In message
,
robgraham writes
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard
to use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I
wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the
audio one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or
somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see
if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.
Unless I've missed something, I thought the objection was the use of
Capcha in the registration process, which requires one not to have a
visual impairment. I certainly agree that the audio version is
impossible to use.

Even without visual impairment 2 out of 3 of them are impossible!

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

The signal to noise is generally considerably better in moderated or by
invitation only forums. The PITA is having to go and look there.

The OP could help a lot by describing where in the country he is based as
repair shops tend to be rather local. I suspect (though have not checked)
that Lintone audio will (for a price) if you ask nicely:

http://www.lintone.co.uk/servicing-20.html

They would certainly do it if they had sold you the kit.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Hi, well I suggest to see the issue some of the doubters download
www.nvda-project.org
install it, turn off their monitor and unplug their mouses and see how they
get on.


Brian

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"robgraham" wrote in message
...
On Apr 27, 9:35 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to
use.
Does it have a nasty type in from the picture human detector on it I
wonder?
But that is only half the issue.
I gave up on Freecycle due to this discriminatory practice as the audio
one
is almost impossible to use as well.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active"Owain"
wrote in message

...
On Apr 27, 8:50 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or
somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if
they
have anything worth keeping on them.

Someone on the UK Vintage Radio tape-recording sub-forum might be able
to helphttp://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Owain

I've read the OP's objection to Forums several times and cannot
understand either it or how he thinks specialist forums differ from
this one.

Personally I've always found specialist forums very helpful, and very
tolerant of people who quite clearly join just to ask one question.

Rob

Thanks, I'll have a look on that one.
Brian

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Email:
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...

[top posting for you Brian]

There's a guy on sci.electronics.repair who has posted there for many
years. He seems to repair mainly older and vintage stuff and has come
up with some clever fixes for kit where parts are no longer available.

He posts as N_Cook, email diverse AT tcp DOT co DOT uk

Has a website at http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/

Site is mainly text, so should be OK for you

Might be worth dropping him a line.

Mike

En el artículo , Brian Gaff
escribió:
I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if
they
have anything worth keeping on them.


any ideas? I've been searching, plentey of people in the US doing it at
high cost, but nobody here who looks reputable, ie is not just an unkown
on
ebay.

Brian


--
(\_/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:34 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Hi, well I suggest to see the issue some of the doubters download
www.nvda-project.org
install it, turn off their monitor and unplug their mouses and see how
they
get on.


Brian

I've been playing with NVDA quite a bit recently. We have a blind student
starting their degree next year, and that's what he uses.

It's very interesting.



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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Sadly, what was once sort of acceptable as an amateur recording many
years ago doesn't stand up well today - when kids can produce a
perfectly reasonable 'hi-fi' sound on their bedroom computer.


I've still got some tapes of an old steam driven fairground organ
recorded in the open air and some other stuff from many years ago and
when replayed everyone who has heard them is impressed at just how good
it does sound unlike what people are becoming used to, i.e. low bit
rates, too much audio processing tiny small headphones and the
like!,.....

Oh I know 1/4" tape could give excellent results. Sadly, too many worried
about the cost of tape so used slow speeds - and 1/4 track. And didn't
have much of an idea about how to use a microphone - which in any case was
often poor in itself.


High speed REVOX full track what else, and IIRC a couple of Neumann's or
AKG Capacitors in a simple crossed pair...
--
Tony Sayer

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...

Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to
use.

Much like those Usenet discussions where some dolt insists on top-posting
all the way through it.

"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message
...

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...

Hmm,a forum, well thereby hangs the problem. I find forums very hard to
use.

Much like those Usenet discussions where some dolt insists on top-posting
all the way through it.

Can't be as bad as some **** who moans about a blind user top posting
because it's the way his screen reader works?

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Oh I know 1/4" tape could give excellent results. Sadly, too many
worried about the cost of tape so used slow speeds - and 1/4 track. And
didn't have much of an idea about how to use a microphone - which in
any case was often poor in itself.


High speed REVOX full track what else, and IIRC a couple of Neumann's or
AKG Capacitors in a simple crossed pair...

Full track Revox? Never seen one of those...;-)

Snag is quite a lot of the stuff I've had to transfer has been recorded
using the supplied mic with the recorder. Usually crystal or cheap moving
coil. Level set on a magic eye. You get the picture?

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Oh I know 1/4" tape could give excellent results. Sadly, too many
worried about the cost of tape so used slow speeds - and 1/4 track. And
didn't have much of an idea about how to use a microphone - which in
any case was often poor in itself.


High speed REVOX full track what else, and IIRC a couple of Neumann's or
AKG Capacitors in a simple crossed pair...

Full track Revox? Never seen one of those...;-)

I've still got a ½track A77 in the loft.

Snag is quite a lot of the stuff I've had to transfer has been recorded
using the supplied mic with the recorder. Usually crystal or cheap moving
coil. Level set on a magic eye. You get the picture?

I recently had to transfer a privately made LP to cassette - fun getting
the scratches out.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

charles wrote:
[snip]

I recently had to transfer a privately made LP to cassette - fun getting
the scratches out.

Audacity and a lot of patience will do that.

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_/ _/

In article ,
charles wrote:
Full track Revox? Never seen one of those...;-)

I've still got a ½track A77 in the loft.

Strictly speaking, stereo. A true 1/2 track has a wider guard band between
tracks to give better separation. Don't think Revox ever made one.

A full track is a mono machine that uses all the width of the tape. All
the early pro machines were that. And some still in use in TV well into
the '70s.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article
,
Steve Firth wrote:
charles wrote: [snip]

I recently had to transfer a privately made LP to cassette - fun
getting the scratches out.

Audacity and a lot of patience will do that.

Much more fun to transfer to 1/4" and cut the clicks out with a razor
blade. Done it lots of times. ;-)

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:02:13 PM UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:50:57 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck

Well I have a Teac in the loft but whether it is working or not I don't
know.

... or someone to fix my old tandberg ...

Giving us a clue as to what is wrong with it might help.

... as I want to run through some tapes and see if they have anything
worth keeping on them.

That's why I still have my Teac, one day I'll get the tuit. Difference
is I know I have stuff I want to keep.

I have a working 1/4tk machine. And half track too. Speeds from 1 7/8 ths
to 15 ips.

Last time I did some transfers to CD as a favour, I was told the results
were very poor. Whereas it was the original tapes which were very poor -
the transfer was excellent. ;-)

Sadly, what was once sort of acceptable as an amateur recording many
years ago doesn't stand up well today - when kids can produce a perfectly
reasonable 'hi-fi' sound on their bedroom computer.

I've still got some tapes of an old steam driven fairground organ
recorded in the open air and some other stuff from many years ago and
when replayed everyone who has heard them is impressed at just how good
it does sound unlike what people are becoming used to, i.e. low bit
rates, too much audio processing tiny small headphones and the
like!,.....
As to Brian's original question yes some of this can be done but often
on consumer grade stuff its the problem of getting such as drive belts
and some other specialised parts like pinch rollers that can be
problematic.
You if you can't DIY need to find someone who is a recorder enthusiast
as commercially most all of the time its a non starter these days....


Have drive belt suppliers really dried up? With cassette decks, if all else fails one can always use stationery rubber bands. Not good practice, but in most cases they last years (some don't).

If a pinch roller is just evenly worn rather than damaged, shimming whatever determines its position can often get it to engage reliably. One way to shim is to tie iron wire on, various diameters are available, and its easily cut off in future. If shimming with epoxy, include some bits of metal, eg a wire clipping, to make it wear better.


NT

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:06:27 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I recently had to transfer a privately made LP to cassette - fun
getting the scratches out.

Editing cassette, rather you than me...

Audacity and a lot of patience will do that.

Much more fun to transfer to 1/4" and cut the clicks out with a razor
blade. Done it lots of times. ;-)

Aye, and after a dabble with Audacity the other week I think I'd be far
quicker with the razor blade. How can you find the correct point when you
cant hear "the sound scrubbing past the head"? Lots of tedious zooming on
the jerky waveform display I guess.

I did find another DAW (Reaper I think) that did give you "head
scrubbing" but couldn't work out how to set the in and out points
exactly, they kept jumping to a regular mark. Don't think I managed to
make an edit at all in Reaper.

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Cheers
Dave.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Oh I know 1/4" tape could give excellent results. Sadly, too many
worried about the cost of tape so used slow speeds - and 1/4 track. And
didn't have much of an idea about how to use a microphone - which in
any case was often poor in itself.


High speed REVOX full track what else, and IIRC a couple of Neumann's or
AKG Capacitors in a simple crossed pair...

Full track Revox? Never seen one of those...;-)

Full track stereo or Twin track perhaps..


Snag is quite a lot of the stuff I've had to transfer has been recorded
using the supplied mic with the recorder. Usually crystal or cheap moving
coil. Level set on a magic eye. You get the picture?


Indeed;(...

--
Tony Sayer

Dave Liquorice wrote:

How can you find the correct point when you
cant hear "the sound scrubbing past the head"? Lots of tedious zooming on
the jerky waveform display I guess.

Experience. Just as experience lets you listen to high speed gabble and
find the point of interest where someone who hasn't done it before will
hear only noise, experience lets you spot the waveform that corresponds
to the bit you are after. Clicks and pops are actually quite easy to see
in a waveform.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article
,
Steve Firth wrote:
charles wrote: [snip]

I recently had to transfer a privately made LP to cassette - fun
getting the scratches out.

Audacity and a lot of patience will do that.

Much more fun to transfer to 1/4" and cut the clicks out with a razor
blade. Done it lots of times. ;-)

Yes, I've done it that way in the past. I don't look forward to going
back to it. In Audacity you can choose to interpolate between the two
samples that are "good" which keeps the timings the same and is
inaudible to most - I'd say all - listeners. YMMV because you know how
to do it professionally and I just **** about trying to rescue the vinyl
and shellac recordings that I don't want to lose.

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In article ,
"Brian Gaff" writes:
See what I said before.
I think its more than just the type in thingy, its because all the
different forums have different functions and one has to find them and
figure out how to use them each time.

I hate them for the same reason, and that I find the user interface
doesn't suit me, and that I can't quickly scan many hundreds of threads
to find the one or two I'm interested in.

Usenet provides me just the raw content, and I get to choose which of
very many applications I use to access it, and they're all in one place
with the same interface.

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On Saturday, 27 April 2013 08:50:57 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for either a working quarter track stereo hi fi deck or somone
to fix my old tandberg as I want to run through some tapes and see if they
have anything worth keeping on them.

You can still get parts for some of them. Here's someone selling spare belts for the Tandberg 3321x (which I have).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tandberg-3...-/130447941999

Robert