Thanks for the shower advice, will take a look shortly.

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge
is in the form of little balls, sometimes flakes. They are generally
a mm or two in size, and may sometimes be scraped off with a finger
nail, but sometimes leaves a smear on the cloth.

It's a cold-fill only machine. The inlet hose comes straight off the
main, and by pointing it into and filling a sink, I've checked that
there isn't any gunge in the supply (thank heavens!).

Next I checked the pump outlet, but that all seems clear.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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Thanks for the shower advice, will take a look shortly.

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge
is in the form of little balls, sometimes flakes. They are generally
a mm or two in size, and may sometimes be scraped off with a finger
nail, but sometimes leaves a smear on the cloth.

It's a cold-fill only machine. The inlet hose comes straight off the
main, and by pointing it into and filling a sink, I've checked that
there isn't any gunge in the supply (thank heavens!).

Next I checked the pump outlet, but that all seems clear.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...


Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look at
the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

On Mar 17, 2:08*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:
"Java Jive" wrote in message

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Thanks for the shower advice, will take a look shortly.

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. *Sometimes the gunge
is in the form of little balls, sometimes flakes. *They are generally
a mm or two in size, and may sometimes be scraped off with a finger
nail, but sometimes leaves a smear on the cloth.

It's a cold-fill only machine. *The inlet hose comes straight off the
main, and by pointing it into and filling a sink, I've checked that
there isn't any gunge in the supply (thank heavens!).

Next I checked the pump outlet, but that all seems clear.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...

Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look at
the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

Yes, that's the likely one.
You need torun your machine on high temp wash now and then to stop
this.

Java Jive wrote:

the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge
Any ideas?

Have a look at the reverse side of the rubber gasket round the door,
various stuff tends to build up there, run a load through on a the
heaviest duty "boil" wash" it has ...

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:08:59 +0000, Mr Pounder wrote:
Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look
at the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

aka Marmite.

"harry" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 2:08 pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:
"Java Jive" wrote in message

...









Thanks for the shower advice, will take a look shortly.

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge
is in the form of little balls, sometimes flakes. They are generally
a mm or two in size, and may sometimes be scraped off with a finger
nail, but sometimes leaves a smear on the cloth.

It's a cold-fill only machine. The inlet hose comes straight off the
main, and by pointing it into and filling a sink, I've checked that
there isn't any gunge in the supply (thank heavens!).

Next I checked the pump outlet, but that all seems clear.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...

Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look
at
the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

Yes, that's the likely one.
You need torun your machine on high temp wash now and then to stop
this.

This did not work for us. Kitchen cleaner and plenty of tea towels did the
job.
There is plenty on this topic on the interweb.

Java Jive wrote:

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains.
Well, take the curtains down before operating the machine. And paints
the walls brown.

Bill

Jules Richardson wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:08:59 +0000, Mr Pounder wrote:
Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look
at the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

aka Marmite.

No, it's stuff that comes out of old men's underpants.

Bill

PS Oh, is that where marmite comes from?

"Jules Richardson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:08:59 +0000, Mr Pounder wrote:
Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look
at the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

aka Marmite.

I like Marmite.
The crap in my door seals was black.
After every wash I just run a bit of kitchen towel in the seal. No more
Marmite.

Java Jive wrote ...


Thanks for the shower advice, will take a look shortly.

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge
is in the form of little balls, sometimes flakes. They are generally
a mm or two in size, and may sometimes be scraped off with a finger
nail, but sometimes leaves a smear on the cloth.

It's a cold-fill only machine. The inlet hose comes straight off the
main, and by pointing it into and filling a sink, I've checked that
there isn't any gunge in the supply (thank heavens!).

Next I checked the pump outlet, but that all seems clear.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...


Very hot wash with soda crystals.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...


Take a look at the door seal. Sort of pull the seal open and have a look
at the inner seal.
Chances are you will find horrible smelly gunge in there.

Sister in law recently bought a second hand washing machine, and everything
came out gungy and smelly, soap drawer was spotless, door seal was too,
drain to pump was fine, they couldn't figure out where the gunge was coming
from.

I had a look, took out the soap drawer and found the pipe leading down from
the soap drawer was thick with brown stinky crap, and the only way to clean
it out was to use a bottle brush fixed to a flexible rod... so we could get
right down to where the pipe exits into the drum,

one hot wash with a white towel later and it was much better, next wash was
perfect,

i can only assume it's because it was left standing for a while in the shop,
and the soap scum lining the pipe erupted into life growing the stinky slimy
****,

On 17/03/2013 14:43, Gazz wrote:
I had a look, took out the soap drawer and found the pipe leading down
from the soap drawer was thick with brown stinky crap, and the only way
to clean it out was to use a bottle brush fixed to a flexible rod... so
we could get right down to where the pipe exits into the drum,

I have eventually after years of persuasion got my wife to put the soap
directly into the drum.

Only curtains? Are these blackout curtains? Many of these do not wash well
and seem to have some kind of rubbery stuff in them that looks and feels as
you describe. Getting said blobs out of the machine usually seems to take a
couple of empty washes.
Of course if its not actually coming from curtains and its appearing on
other fabrics then it could be some pollution inside the main drum small
enough to sneak through the holes but when cooled down forms blobs and stays
in the rotating bit.

Brian

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"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the shower advice, will take a look shortly.

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge
is in the form of little balls, sometimes flakes. They are generally
a mm or two in size, and may sometimes be scraped off with a finger
nail, but sometimes leaves a smear on the cloth.

It's a cold-fill only machine. The inlet hose comes straight off the
main, and by pointing it into and filling a sink, I've checked that
there isn't any gunge in the supply (thank heavens!).

Next I checked the pump outlet, but that all seems clear.

Next I checked the soap dispenser, and while that has obviously been
cleaned recently, and although there are one or two patches of algae,
they don't dislodge easily, and would not seem to account for the
amount of gunge, so I don't think they are the problem.

Any ideas?

Off to look at the shower now ...
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On 17/03/2013 21:06, ss wrote:
On 17/03/2013 14:43, Gazz wrote:
I had a look, took out the soap drawer and found the pipe leading down
from the soap drawer was thick with brown stinky crap, and the only way
to clean it out was to use a bottle brush fixed to a flexible rod... so
we could get right down to where the pipe exits into the drum,

I have eventually after years of persuasion got my wife to put the soap
directly into the drum.

We have discovered that using liquid soaps in the drum gives us far less
gunge and odour than using powders or tablets (drum or drawer).

SteveW

On Sunday, March 17, 2013 1:47:56 PM UTC, Java Jive wrote:

As described, the Indesit WIB111 washing machine that was left here in
the house is leaving brown gunge on my curtains. Sometimes the gunge

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...Machine_Smells


NT

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:53:16 +0000, SteveW wrote:

On 17/03/2013 21:06, ss wrote:
On 17/03/2013 14:43, Gazz wrote:
I had a look, took out the soap drawer and found the pipe leading down
from the soap drawer was thick with brown stinky crap, and the only way
to clean it out was to use a bottle brush fixed to a flexible rod... so
we could get right down to where the pipe exits into the drum,

I have eventually after years of persuasion got my wife to put the soap
directly into the drum.

We have discovered that using liquid soaps in the drum gives us far less
gunge and odour than using powders or tablets (drum or drawer).

SteveW

Same here - haven't used the drawer for about 10 years (I just clean the
drawer every couple of years as tap water seems to be quite fertile).
Used to use Ecover and that would smell a bit. Changed to Bio-D and no smell
and better results. I buy it in 5 li containers from a local whole-food
co-op.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

Thanks for all the replies ...

As advised, I cleaned the seal. It started to come off so I actually
took it off to clean it more thoroughly with a scrubbing brush. I
then had a furious half-hour trying to grow an extra hand so that I
could get it back on. Eventually, I gave up waiting for evolution to
take over, and used a foot instead. It's just doing a hot empty wash
now. No leaks yet ... here's hoping it stays that way.

Why aren't trained chimps available to do these sorts of jobs?

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:47:56 +0000, Java Jive
wrote:

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:58:10 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

Why aren't trained chimps available to do these sorts of jobs?

There are, they are called washing machine repair men. My late father was
one, in the 1930's...

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:32:34 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:58:10 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

Why aren't trained chimps available to do these sorts of jobs?

I was meaning jobs that require more than the average number of hands.

There are, they are called washing machine repair men. My late father was
one, in the 1930's...

How very disrespectful to your father - perhaps it's a good thing
he's too late to hear you talk so of him !-)
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:15:42 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

There are, they are called washing machine repair men. My late father
was one, in the 1930's...

How very disrespectful to your father - perhaps it's a good thing
he's too late to hear you talk so of him !-)

But in the 1930's washing machines wern't front loaders with 'orrible for
fit seals around the door opening...

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No change, the curtains have come out covered in sh*t again! Grrrrr!

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As advised, I cleaned the seal.
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No change, the curtains have come out covered in sh*t again! Grrrrr!

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:58:10 +0000, Java Jive
wrote:

As advised, I cleaned the seal.

Hmmmm.
We got some "Washing Machine Cleaner" from a cheap shop. Loads of **** came
up and it took several cycles to clear.
["Oxygen based bleaching agent 15%, Anionic surfactant 5%, Biological Enzyme
1%"}
It does sound as though the machine is full of **** in your case.

Thanks, think I'm going to be needing something like that ...

Yesterday, had another crack it, and dismantled, thoroughly cleaned,
and reassembled the entire water supply from the back inlet through to
the soap drawer and down to and including the rubber inlet pipe into
the drum. All now spotless or very nearly so, and I also noticed that
the water inlet hose connector has a very fine mesh filter which is
completely free of debris. The water supply is absolutely clean right
through to the drum itself.

After another half-dozen or so washes, before each of which I wiped
round the rubber drum seal and checked all the cleaning cloths that
were to be test-washed, still lumps of sh*t were left on them in every
wash.

Continuing on this morning, I've just stuffed most of one of the
cloths between the rim of the drum and the tank, and turned the drum
by hand, holding on the free end of the cloth, thus wiping both the
outside of the drum and the inside of the tank. The cloth came out
covered in black gunge.

As I see it there are two solutions, chemical, or dismantling the
entire machine, cleaning it thoroughly, and then re-assembling it.

The problem with the former is that the waste goes into a septic tank,
and I still don't even know yet how healthy or otherwise that is, let
alone what would be the effect of strong chemicals on it.
Nevertheless, does anyone have any recommendations similar to the
above, preferably that would be compatible with a septic tank?

The problem with the latter is that it would probably be cheaper just
to buy a new machine than to get the job done professionally, and
although in principle I should be able to do it myself at little or no
cost, and thereby completely solve the problem, there's the sizable
difficulty of whether specialist tools might be needed, whether I
could actually get it apart, let alone whether I could get it back
together again.

I haven't had a chance to think much about this yet, let alone look on
the internet, but if anyone has recommendations for a new machine I'd
be grateful to hear them. Here are my first thoughts roughly in order
of importance.

Reliable.

Cold fill only.

Able to accommodate a king-size double quilt, but also able to do
smaller washes without wasting water filling up the entire drum. This
means that not only the drum must be big enough, but also the door.

Variety of washes including woollens, and hot whites.

Easy to program for individual steps such as rinsing or
draining/pumping out.

Timer to start wash.

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:27:06 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

We got some "Washing Machine Cleaner" from a cheap shop. Loads of **** came
up and it took several cycles to clear.
["Oxygen based bleaching agent 15%, Anionic surfactant 5%, Biological Enzyme
1%"}
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On Monday, April 1, 2013 2:18:53 PM UTC+1, Java Jive wrote:

were to be test-washed, still lumps of sh*t were left on them in every
wash.
Continuing on this morning, I've just stuffed most of one of the
cloths between the rim of the drum and the tank, and turned the drum
by hand, holding on the free end of the cloth, thus wiping both the
outside of the drum and the inside of the tank. The cloth came out
covered in black gunge.
As I see it there are two solutions, chemical, or dismantling the
entire machine, cleaning it thoroughly, and then re-assembling it.
The problem with the former is that the waste goes into a septic tank,
and I still don't even know yet how healthy or otherwise that is, let
alone what would be the effect of strong chemicals on it.
Nevertheless, does anyone have any recommendations similar to the
above, preferably that would be compatible with a septic tank?
The problem with the latter is that it would probably be cheaper just
to buy a new machine than to get the job done professionally, and
although in principle I should be able to do it myself at little or no
cost, and thereby completely solve the problem, there's the sizable
difficulty of whether specialist tools might be needed, whether I
could actually get it apart, let alone whether I could get it back
together again.

I dont remember any machine needing specialist tools for that. Once apart, HCl destroys everything


NT