We think our oven is running cooler than the temperature dial indicates.

The oven thermometer seems to agree.

However, how accurate are oven thermometers?

Ours is an analogue one - presumably some sort of internal coil.

Made by Copco.

There seem to be loads of choices via Google and most of the mechanical
ones look very similar - stainless steel back, clip to go on the oven
shelf, pointer and dual C/F scale.

Oh, and where in the oven is the best place to measure?

By the glass is easy to read, the temperature sensor must be at the edge
somewhere, but should it be as close to central as possible? Even on a fan
oven?

Cheers

Dave R

On 03/03/2013 22:45, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
We think our oven is running cooler than the temperature dial indicates.

The oven thermometer seems to agree.

However, how accurate are oven thermometers?

Ours is an analogue one - presumably some sort of internal coil.

Made by Copco.

There seem to be loads of choices via Google and most of the mechanical
ones look very similar - stainless steel back, clip to go on the oven
shelf, pointer and dual C/F scale.

Oh, and where in the oven is the best place to measure?

By the glass is easy to read, the temperature sensor must be at the edge
somewhere, but should it be as close to central as possible? Even on a fan
oven?

Cheers

Dave R

We thought ours was under-temperature. Then, looking at the dial very
carefully, realised that we were mis-reading it. The markings are
something like this:

.. 120 . 140 . 160 . 180 . 200 . 220 .

And the pointer has to point not at the number, but at the dot past the
number (i.e. seemingly higher). Just that ovens both I and partner had
been most familiar with pointed at the middle of the number itself.

We do have an oven thermometer (as last oven did seem a bit wayward at
times) but do not use it precisely because of the difficulty in reading
it from outside the oven. Were we to want another, we'd go for an
electronic one which can also measure inside of joint temperatures, etc.

--
Rod

On 3 Mar 2013 22:45:14 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

We think our oven is running cooler than the temperature dial indicates.

The oven thermometer seems to agree.

However, how accurate are oven thermometers?

Ours is an analogue one - presumably some sort of internal coil.

Made by Copco.

When was it last calibrated?

--
Frank Erskine

On Mar 3, 10:45*pm, "David.WE.Roberts" wrote:
We think our oven is running cooler than the temperature dial indicates.

The oven thermometer seems to agree.

However, how accurate are oven thermometers?

Ours is an analogue one - presumably some sort of internal coil.

Made by Copco.

There seem to be loads of choices via Google and most of the mechanical
ones look very similar - stainless steel back, clip to go on the oven
shelf, pointer and dual C/F scale.

Oh, and where in the oven is the best place to measure?

By the glass is easy to read, the temperature sensor must be at the edge
somewhere, but should it be as close to central as possible? Even on a fan
oven?

Cheers

Dave R

Some oven thermostats have an adjusting screw.

David.WE.Roberts wrote on Mar 3, 2013:

We think our oven is running cooler than the temperature dial indicates.

The oven thermometer seems to agree.

However, how accurate are oven thermometers?

Ours is an analogue one - presumably some sort of internal coil.

Made by Copco.

There seem to be loads of choices via Google and most of the mechanical
ones look very similar - stainless steel back, clip to go on the oven
shelf, pointer and dual C/F scale.

Oh, and where in the oven is the best place to measure?

By the glass is easy to read, the temperature sensor must be at the edge
somewhere, but should it be as close to central as possible? Even on a fan
oven?

Cheers

Dave R

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven


--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones
a while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking
(Keep the actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the
BBQ too http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:06:37 +0000, polygonum wrote:

On 03/03/2013 22:45, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
We think our oven is running cooler than the temperature dial
indicates.

The oven thermometer seems to agree.

However, how accurate are oven thermometers?

Ours is an analogue one - presumably some sort of internal coil.

Made by Copco.

There seem to be loads of choices via Google and most of the mechanical
ones look very similar - stainless steel back, clip to go on the oven
shelf, pointer and dual C/F scale.

Oh, and where in the oven is the best place to measure?

By the glass is easy to read, the temperature sensor must be at the
edge somewhere, but should it be as close to central as possible? Even
on a fan oven?

Cheers

Dave R

We thought ours was under-temperature. Then, looking at the dial very
carefully, realised that we were mis-reading it. The markings are
something like this:

. 120 . 140 . 160 . 180 . 200 . 220 .

And the pointer has to point not at the number, but at the dot past the
number (i.e. seemingly higher). Just that ovens both I and partner had
been most familiar with pointed at the middle of the number itself.

We do have an oven thermometer (as last oven did seem a bit wayward at
times) but do not use it precisely because of the difficulty in reading
it from outside the oven. Were we to want another, we'd go for an
electronic one which can also measure inside of joint temperatures, etc.

Presumably the lead to the sensor fits between the seals for the door?

As the oven is brand new we might just call out the suppliers to check it.

Cheers

Dave R

In article , Gordon Henderson
writes
In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones
a while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking
(Keep the actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the
BBQ too http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Nice one :-)

Not a bad price given the branding, silicone leads for an easy clean and
hooks to help keep the probes in place

Not a fan of endorsed products but one of those would be worth bending a
rule for.
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

Gordon Henderson wrote on Mar 4, 2013:

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones
a while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking
(Keep the actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the
BBQ too http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

I looked at those, but from what I understand the alarm can only be set to
certain preset values, whereas the ETI one can be set from any value from 0
to 300C.

I sometimes use it set to 5 degrees to check when food is defrosted for
example.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:
Gordon Henderson wrote on Mar 4, 2013:

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones
a while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking
(Keep the actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the
BBQ too http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

I looked at those, but from what I understand the alarm can only be set to
certain preset values, whereas the ETI one can be set from any value from 0
to 300C.

I sometimes use it set to 5 degrees to check when food is defrosted for
example.

Yes, it's preset values. Personally I just use them as a guide though. The
one down-side is that it's a little slow - not an issue if you are cooking
something with the probes in from the outset, but you can't just stab
it into something and hope for a quick check - it can take 30 seconds
to stabilise )-: If I'd known that before I got it, I might have thought
twice, but it was on offer in the local cook shoppie.

Gordon

In article , fred wrote:
In article , Gordon Henderson
writes
In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones
a while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking
(Keep the actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the
BBQ too http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Nice one :-)

Not a bad price given the branding, silicone leads for an easy clean and
hooks to help keep the probes in place

Not a fan of endorsed products but one of those would be worth bending a
rule for.

They're Ok - slow if you stab them into something already cooking and
want a quick check, but otherwise I've used them a lot (and
in the BBQ as well as main oven!)

Gordon

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:
Gordon Henderson wrote on Mar 4, 2013:

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones
a while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking
(Keep the actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the
BBQ too http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

I looked at those, but from what I understand the alarm can only be set to
certain preset values, whereas the ETI one can be set from any value from
0
to 300C.

I sometimes use it set to 5 degrees to check when food is defrosted for
example.

Yes, it's preset values. Personally I just use them as a guide though. The
one down-side is that it's a little slow - not an issue if you are cooking
something with the probes in from the outset, but you can't just stab
it into something and hope for a quick check - it can take 30 seconds
to stabilise )-: If I'd known that before I got it, I might have thought
twice, but it was on offer in the local cook shoppie.

Dearth of decent bluetooth or wifi thermometers
at other than an obscene price tho. That would
be much more convenient with a meat or cooking
thermometer, you wouldn't have to hang around
in the kitchen at all when doing a roast etc.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:10:48 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent for
measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones a
while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking (Keep the
actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the BBQ too
http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

Just working my way up to buying one of these and then checked the spec.

"Temp range from 16°F to 302°F or -9°C to 150°C"

So this is a food in the oven thermometer not an oven thermometer.

I need to measure up to 250C at least to check the oven temperature is
accurate.

Years ago when our Creda oven had the fan and heating element replaced the
installer had a multi-meter with a temperature probe.

This may be the way to go.

Cheers

Dave R

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:45:02 +0000, Mike Lane wrote:

Gordon Henderson wrote on Mar 4, 2013:

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent
for measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the
oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones a
while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking (Keep the
actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the BBQ too
http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

I looked at those, but from what I understand the alarm can only be set
to certain preset values, whereas the ETI one can be set from any value
from 0 to 300C.

I sometimes use it set to 5 degrees to check when food is defrosted for
example.

The oven thermometers discussed here seem to be intended for inserting
into food to check the temperature.

I want a probe that can measure the temperature inside the oven to check
if the thermostat is calibrated correctly.

Is there any reason why the ETI one cannot be used 'bare' instead of
inserted into food?

Cheers

Dave R

On 12/03/2013 17:15, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:45:02 +0000, Mike Lane wrote:



The oven thermometers discussed here seem to be intended for inserting
into food to check the temperature.

I want a probe that can measure the temperature inside the oven to check
if the thermostat is calibrated correctly.

Is there any reason why the ETI one cannot be used 'bare' instead of
inserted into food?

Cheers

Dave R

There are plenty of relatively cheap oven thermometers these are but 2

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/8453611.htm

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/11235/Oven-Thermometer


--
Chris

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:21:59 +0000, news wrote:

On 12/03/2013 17:15, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:45:02 +0000, Mike Lane wrote:



The oven thermometers discussed here seem to be intended for inserting
into food to check the temperature.

I want a probe that can measure the temperature inside the oven to
check if the thermostat is calibrated correctly.

Is there any reason why the ETI one cannot be used 'bare' instead of
inserted into food?

Cheers

Dave R

There are plenty of relatively cheap oven thermometers these are but 2

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/8453611.htm

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/11235/Oven-Thermometer

:-) If you look back upstream you will realise that I already have one
like that :-)

Problem with them is you can't read them unless they are right up by the
glass.

I want one with a probe that can sit in the centre of the oven (or
anywhere else I chose).

Cheers

Dave R

On 12/03/2013 19:44, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:21:59 +0000, news wrote:


There are plenty of relatively cheap oven thermometers these are but 2

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/8453611.htm

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/11235/Oven-Thermometer

:-) If you look back upstream you will realise that I already have one
like that :-)

Problem with them is you can't read them unless they are right up by the
glass.

I want one with a probe that can sit in the centre of the oven (or
anywhere else I chose).

Cheers

Dave R

Ahh My apologies. I guess that it the downside of trimming posts. I
guess visibility of this type depends on the state of your oven door - I
simply use a torch shining through the glass to illuminate mine - but
that does depend on you having a A) A glass door and B) It being clean
enough to see through (but (B) is a whole new thread :-)

--
Chris

David.WE.Roberts wrote on Mar 12, 2013:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:45:02 +0000, Mike Lane wrote:

Gordon Henderson wrote on Mar 4, 2013:

In article . com,
Mike Lane wrote:

I have one of these:
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-th...and-timer.html

It seems quite accurate - boiling water reads 100C. It's excellent
for measuring the internal temperature of food while cooking in the
oven

Almost got one of those, but went for the dual-probe "Heston" ones a
while back - which is good to be used while stuff is cooking (Keep the
actual meter outside the oven though!) It works in the BBQ too
http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg

Gordon

I looked at those, but from what I understand the alarm can only be set
to certain preset values, whereas the ETI one can be set from any value
from 0 to 300C.

I sometimes use it set to 5 degrees to check when food is defrosted for
example.

The oven thermometers discussed here seem to be intended for inserting
into food to check the temperature.

I want a probe that can measure the temperature inside the oven to check
if the thermostat is calibrated correctly.

Is there any reason why the ETI one cannot be used 'bare' instead of
inserted into food?

Cheers

Dave R

No - I have often used mine to measure oven temperature. The only problem is
that the probe doesn't sit easily on an oven shelf - it tends to fall through
the slats.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com