I've just bought one for my wife. It may well be a great product, but we
can't tell!
The instructions are so terribly badly written and organised. They seem to
be more in the nature of
notes of various features intended for users already very familiar with the
device.
The instructions with the original Kindle were bad enough, but those of the
Touch are
incomparably more useless.
As it's a device likely to appeal to OAPs, the handicapped, and the
not-so-with-it elderly,
one would have hoped for a good, clear, logically set out instruction book.
Some hope !
At least the original Kindle had a few buttons you could experiment with in
the attempt
to deduce the functions of, but The Touch has but one - the on/off !
Does anyone know of a decent third-party instruction book ?

"Jim Hawkins" wrote:
I've just bought one for my wife. It may well be a great product, but we
can't tell!
The instructions are so terribly badly written and organised. They seem to
be more in the nature of
notes of various features intended for users already very familiar with the
device.
The instructions with the original Kindle were bad enough, but those of the
Touch are
incomparably more useless.
As it's a device likely to appeal to OAPs, the handicapped, and the
not-so-with-it elderly,
one would have hoped for a good, clear, logically set out instruction book.
Some hope !
At least the original Kindle had a few buttons you could experiment with in
the attempt
to deduce the functions of, but The Touch has but one - the on/off !
Does anyone know of a decent third-party instruction book ?

http://books.google.co.uk/books/abou...sC&redir_esc=y

No idea if it's any good or not.

Tim

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Jim Hawkins wrote:
I've just bought one for my wife. It may well be a great product, but we
can't tell!

The instructions are so terribly badly written and organised. They seem
to be more in the nature of notes of various features intended for users
already very familiar with the device.


The instructions with the original Kindle were bad enough, but those of
the Touch are incomparably more useless. As it's a device likely to
appeal to OAPs, the handicapped, and the not-so-with-it elderly, one
would have hoped for a good, clear, logically set out instruction book.
Some hope !

At least the original Kindle had a few buttons you could experiment with
in the attempt to deduce the functions of, but The Touch has but one -
the on/off ! Does anyone know of a decent third-party instruction book ?

If you follow the instruction which says "look on the website", you will
find a good clear instruction book. It's around 80 pages, I think.






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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

No but I'd not touch a touch as it has no voice.

The keyboard one is far better from what my friends tell me. Most
instruction books these days annoyingly seem to present the introduction as
a series of funny pictures which I find very amusing on the old Kindle as
the people who seem to buy hthem have poor eyesight.
Brian

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From the sofa of Brian Gaff -

Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Jim Hawkins" wrote in message
m...
I've just bought one for my wife. It may well be a great product, but we
can't tell!
The instructions are so terribly badly written and organised. They seem
to be more in the nature of
notes of various features intended for users already very familiar with
the device.
The instructions with the original Kindle were bad enough, but those of
the Touch are
incomparably more useless.
As it's a device likely to appeal to OAPs, the handicapped, and the
not-so-with-it elderly,
one would have hoped for a good, clear, logically set out instruction
book. Some hope !
At least the original Kindle had a few buttons you could experiment with
in the attempt
to deduce the functions of, but The Touch has but one - the on/off !
Does anyone know of a decent third-party instruction book ?

Brian Gaff wrote:

I'd not touch a touch as it has no voice.
The keyboard one is far better from what my friends tell me.

For a blind person fair enough you'll want audio output, but
the headphone socket makes it yet another MP3 player, and the keyboard
makes it yet another computer - I prefer the kobo touch as it's
decidedly just* a bookreader.


* It does have a web browser under 'extras', but it'd have to be a dire
emergency to use it!

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Brian Gaff wrote:

I'd not touch a touch as it has no voice.
The keyboard one is far better from what my friends tell me.

For a blind person fair enough you'll want audio output, but
the headphone socket makes it yet another MP3 player, and the keyboard
makes it yet another computer - I prefer the kobo touch as it's decidedly
just* a bookreader.


* It does have a web browser under 'extras', but it'd have to be a dire
emergency to use it!

On the keyboard version I tried to send a mail message via Gmail using the
'experimental' browser but decided that life was far too short.
I put some .mp3 files on the system but it doesn't seem to find them so no
..mp3 player.
It does, however, do pretty well as an eReader.

I have noted that there doesn't seem to be any software progression - new or
better software - so the 'experimental' bits look likely to stay that way.
I would have liked the option to have 'proper' .mp3 software on there so you
could use it to play selected music whilst reading - I understand that it is
supposed to just play whatever is there with no playlist functionality. If
it ever plays anything.

Cheers

Dave R
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No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:59:46 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:

On the keyboard version I tried to send a mail message via Gmail using
the 'experimental' browser but decided that life was far too short.

Agreed. But that's not its primary purpose. I do use it for teh
occasional Wikipedia lookup (from a word in abook) though.

I
put some .mp3 files on the system but it doesn't seem to find them so no
.mp3 player.

Works for me.

It does, however, do pretty well as an eReader.

Yes...use it all the time!

I have noted that there doesn't seem to be any software progression -
new or better software - so the 'experimental' bits look likely to stay
that way. I would have liked the option to have 'proper' .mp3 software
on there so you could use it to play selected music whilst reading - I
understand that it is supposed to just play whatever is there with no
playlist functionality. If it ever plays anything.

I have had two software upgrades over the past year or so, but they never
happened automatically - I just downloaded and installed them.
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On 23/06/2012 09:11, Andy Burns wrote:

... I prefer the kobo touch as it's
decidedly just* a bookreader....

That's what I have and I like it very much. I did confuse the staff at
my local library when I asked how to access their e-book lending
services, as nobody had told them they had one.

Colin Bignell

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:59:46 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:
snip

I
put some .mp3 files on the system but it doesn't seem to find them so no
.mp3 player.

Works for me.

snip

Did you just copy .mp3 files on there?
Any directory/folder structure?
Can't work out why I can't see the files.

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[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:15:05 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:59:46 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:
snip

I
put some .mp3 files on the system but it doesn't seem to find them so
no .mp3 player.

Works for me.

snip

Did you just copy .mp3 files on there? Any directory/folder structure?
Can't work out why I can't see the files.

They go into a directory called 'music'. You don't get to 'see' the files
as the Kindle just plays the music in the order you added the files.

It's not meant as a proper mp3 player, just background music.

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