How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets. I'm
hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.

"Fredxx" wrote in message
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How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.




Could you fix say, 4" by1" battens horizontally to the studs then the rad
brackets to that.

mark

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"Fredxx" wrote in message
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How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.


Could you fix say, 4" by1" battens horizontally to the studs then the rad
brackets to that.


I could, but I do feel things like batons are unsightly and the radiator
also becomes further away from the wall.

Many thanks for your idea.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 30/07/2010 13:43, Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm
hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.

What sized rad?

Are you constricted in position - or would 6" either way along a wall make
no difference?

Assuming you can be a bit flexible on position, then find the studs and
see if they match the bracket positions. If they do, job sorted. If not
one end is easy, and you need to think about what to do at the other end.

A small ish rad (i.e. no more than 4' long) would be secure enough screwed
to a stud at one end and on cavity wall anchors at the other. For a big
heavy rad, then cut out a lump of plasterboard and insert a couple of
noggings (4x2, long face vertical) in the right place to catch the screws
from the brackets. Replace plasterboard cutout and screw back, fill round
the edge to cover the cut (it will be hidden behind a rad anyway!)


Many thanks.

I'm a pessimist and its a 2ft wide radiator which needs to be centred on an
end wall.

The worst case scenario I am expecting is a stud bang in the middle of both
brackets!! I really don't fancy putting in 2 sets of noggings.

Fredxx wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 30/07/2010 13:43, Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm
hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.
What sized rad?

Are you constricted in position - or would 6" either way along a wall make
no difference?

Assuming you can be a bit flexible on position, then find the studs and
see if they match the bracket positions. If they do, job sorted. If not
one end is easy, and you need to think about what to do at the other end.

A small ish rad (i.e. no more than 4' long) would be secure enough screwed
to a stud at one end and on cavity wall anchors at the other. For a big
heavy rad, then cut out a lump of plasterboard and insert a couple of
noggings (4x2, long face vertical) in the right place to catch the screws
from the brackets. Replace plasterboard cutout and screw back, fill round
the edge to cover the cut (it will be hidden behind a rad anyway!)


Many thanks.

I'm a pessimist and its a 2ft wide radiator which needs to be centred on an
end wall.

The worst case scenario I am expecting is a stud bang in the middle of both
brackets!! I really don't fancy putting in 2 sets of noggings.


why ever not? simply remove a square of board just less than the size of
the rad with a sharp knife or small padsaw, bang in te niggins or an MDF
plate , tack the board back, and cut V groves down the edges.. tape with
scrim and Poly fill or plaster over. Sand flush,lick of paint and she's
good as new.

Its all behind the rad anyway.

Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any
brackets. I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2"
variety.

If you miss the studs and have to fix to the plasterboards, I have good
results over the years with hollow wall anchors when fixing the radiator
brackets to paramount boards etc.

Link supplied below showing what I mean - scroll down about half-way.

http://www.priorityind.net/index.php...art=0&limit=50

If there are problems with the 'wrap' try this tinyurl link.

http://tinyurl.com/2wqkm8s


Cash

"Cash" wrote in message
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Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any
brackets. I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2"
variety.

If you miss the studs and have to fix to the plasterboards, I have good
results over the years with hollow wall anchors when fixing the radiator
brackets to paramount boards etc.

Link supplied below showing what I mean - scroll down about half-way.

http://www.priorityind.net/index.php...art=0&limit=50

If there are problems with the 'wrap' try this tinyurl link.

http://tinyurl.com/2wqkm8s



Many thanks. If one bracket ends up being over a stud, I'd certainly uses
hollow wall anchors the other end. I do feel that it needs to take more
than the weight of the radiator in case someone leans on it rather heavily.

On 30 July, 16:06, "Fredxx" wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message

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On 30/07/2010 13:43, Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets..
I'm
hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.

What sized rad?

Are you constricted in position - or would 6" either way along a wall make
no difference?

Assuming you can be a bit flexible on position, then find the studs and
see if they match the bracket positions. If they do, job sorted. If not
one end is easy, and you need to think about what to do at the other end.

A small ish rad (i.e. no more than 4' long) would be secure enough screwed
to a stud at one end and on cavity wall anchors at the other. For a big
heavy rad, then cut out a lump of plasterboard and insert a couple of
noggings (4x2, long face vertical) in the right place to catch the screws
from the brackets. Replace plasterboard cutout and screw back, fill round
the edge to cover the cut (it will be hidden behind a rad anyway!)

Many thanks.

I'm a pessimist and its a 2ft wide radiator which needs to be centred on an
end wall.

The worst case scenario I am expecting is a stud bang in the middle of both
brackets!! *I really don't fancy putting in 2 sets of noggings.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have cut away plasterboard and substituted plywood the same
thickness as the plasterboard screwed to the verticals.. If
neccesary, it can be plaster skimmed with PVA/plaster mix.

Fredxx wrote:
"Cash" wrote in message
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Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any
brackets. I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2"
variety.

If you miss the studs and have to fix to the plasterboards, I have
good results over the years with hollow wall anchors when fixing the
radiator brackets to paramount boards etc.

Link supplied below showing what I mean - scroll down about half-way.

http://www.priorityind.net/index.php...art=0&limit=50

If there are problems with the 'wrap' try this tinyurl link.

http://tinyurl.com/2wqkm8s



Many thanks. If one bracket ends up being over a stud, I'd certainly
uses hollow wall anchors the other end. I do feel that it needs to
take more than the weight of the radiator in case someone leans on it
rather heavily.

Fredxx,

Have no worries about people leaning on the rad causing problems.

I have used them on Paramount partions (2 pieces of plasterboard back to
back with 'egg crating' between (no studding) with no problems in public
buildings, offices and houses (including mine) to support large rads,
shelving etc.

What you have to do is take care that the holes for them are of the correct
diameter and they 'crush' tight to the back of the plasterboard - and don't
overtighten the bolts when you fit the rad brackets.


Cash

"Cash" wrote in message
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Fredxx wrote:
"Cash" wrote in message
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Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any
brackets. I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2"
variety.

If you miss the studs and have to fix to the plasterboards, I have
good results over the years with hollow wall anchors when fixing the
radiator brackets to paramount boards etc.

Link supplied below showing what I mean - scroll down about half-way.

http://www.priorityind.net/index.php...art=0&limit=50

If there are problems with the 'wrap' try this tinyurl link.

http://tinyurl.com/2wqkm8s



Many thanks. If one bracket ends up being over a stud, I'd certainly
uses hollow wall anchors the other end. I do feel that it needs to
take more than the weight of the radiator in case someone leans on it
rather heavily.

Fredxx,

Have no worries about people leaning on the rad causing problems.

I have used them on Paramount partions (2 pieces of plasterboard back to
back with 'egg crating' between (no studding) with no problems in public
buildings, offices and houses (including mine) to support large rads,
shelving etc.

What you have to do is take care that the holes for them are of the
correct diameter and they 'crush' tight to the back of the plasterboard -
and don't overtighten the bolts when you fit the rad brackets.


Thanks, that gives me some confidence.

"Fredxx" wrote in message
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How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.


Many thanks for all the contributions. I have some ideas and will assess
how the land lies tomorrow.

"Fredxx" wrote in message
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"Fredxx" wrote in message
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How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.


Many thanks for all the contributions. I have some ideas and will assess
how the land lies tomorrow.




I have had a bathroom rad on a platerboard wall for 22 years. It gets towels
on it. When I removed the radiator to decorate about 21 years ago I removed
the brackets and applied some glue to help them resist movement - they have
not moved.

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"Fredxx" wrote in message
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"Fredxx" wrote in message
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How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.


Many thanks for all the contributions. I have some ideas and will assess
how the land lies tomorrow.




I have had a bathroom rad on a platerboard wall for 22 years. It gets
towels on it. When I removed the radiator to decorate about 21 years ago
I removed the brackets and applied some glue to help them resist
movement - they have not moved.



Just a further thought - could you get something welded onto the existing
mountings to give something like some keyholes in the best position

"Fredxx" wrote in message
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 30/07/2010 13:43, Fredxx wrote:
How would the people here do this? What fixings and methods?

I'm assuming that the studs are not going to line-up with any brackets.
I'm
hoping that the plasterboard is going to be the 1/2" variety.

What sized rad?

Are you constricted in position - or would 6" either way along a wall
make no difference?

Assuming you can be a bit flexible on position, then find the studs and
see if they match the bracket positions. If they do, job sorted. If not
one end is easy, and you need to think about what to do at the other end.

A small ish rad (i.e. no more than 4' long) would be secure enough
screwed to a stud at one end and on cavity wall anchors at the other. For
a big heavy rad, then cut out a lump of plasterboard and insert a couple
of noggings (4x2, long face vertical) in the right place to catch the
screws from the brackets. Replace plasterboard cutout and screw back,
fill round the edge to cover the cut (it will be hidden behind a rad
anyway!)


Many thanks.

I'm a pessimist and its a 2ft wide radiator which needs to be centred on
an end wall.

The worst case scenario I am expecting is a stud bang in the middle of
both brackets!! I really don't fancy putting in 2 sets of noggings.


What I've done in the past, as a variant of battens (on lath and plaster
wall), is to put in a panel of 12 mm plywood deep enough to take the
brackets and long enough to span the studs while staying within the
radiator. You won't notice the extra distance from the wall. If it's a big
rad you might need more than two screws per bracket.