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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a
third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...
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Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a
third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY."


Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink
screwdrivers though ...

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.


Sorry, it's spend... spend... spend.

Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?


More machines are being purchased to do manual jobs, sometimes over the
top for the matter in hand and the capacity of the individual to use it
safely.

{{ insert ALDI/LIDL chainsaw thread here }}

Or will A&E just get busier...


If ye have children, get 'em through medical school. They will be busy.


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Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?


More machines are being purchased to do manual jobs, sometimes over the
top for the matter in hand and the capacity of the individual to use it
safely.


That's true.


Or will A&E just get busier...


If ye have children, get 'em through medical school. They will be busy.



I'm trying to persuade them to be GPs - loads of money for sitting in a
small comfortable room all day. OK, there are downsides - like having to
look at Old Mrs Jones' interesting lumps.
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Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by
more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."


Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any
pink screwdrivers though ...


Maybe not in B&Q but...

http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com..._keyword:dolly

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Tim S wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more
than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...


I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation
limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'!

How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle
grinder? g
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Roger Mills wrote:

I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation
limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'!

How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle
grinder? g


Don't stand between a man and his tools:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8

A great crowd to see live BTW.

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On 17 Sep, 10:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a
third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...


Maybe connected with the rise in unemployment, giving more people who
now can't afford to "get someone in" and/or no have no excuse for not
rounding that toit.

Chris
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Tim S wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more
than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...


I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation
limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'!

How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle
grinder? g


Probably result in a better "success" statistic


which will then be filed in the bottom drawer like most other civil service
stats...
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On 17 Sep, 10:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more
than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest"
in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...


Maybe connected with the rise in unemployment, giving more people who
now can't afford to "get someone in" and/or no have no excuse for not
rounding that toit.

Chris


Honeeee!... Now you're not busy being a corporate CFO, how about that new
cellar?

Sure, there's a great 12" angle grinder for 12.99 at B&Q.
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:44:49 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:

Roger Mills wrote:

I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation
limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate
'qualifications'!

How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle
grinder? g


Don't stand between a man and his tools:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8

A great crowd to see live BTW.

Chris


Indeed! excellent value and how true - don't know if their boogie
wonderland is on youtube but ...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than
a
third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in
DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?


I don't think it's a case of being helpless, but more a case of being able
to pay, so they do (and then using the time saved for something else).

I do far less diy than I used to, I now pay a man to do things for me that I
used to do myself.

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Tim Downie wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by
more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."


Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any
pink screwdrivers though ...


Maybe not in B&Q but...

http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com..._keyword:dolly

When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools
with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd
be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. They're
very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be
absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the
only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them,
having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical
skills.

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Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:

I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation
limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'!

How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle
grinder? g


Don't stand between a man and his tools:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8

The cartoon version is more realistic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqNAonCJEMM

A great crowd to see live BTW.

Yes!



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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:50:09 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:

Tim Downie wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by
more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."

Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any
pink screwdrivers though ...


Maybe not in B&Q but...

http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com..._keyword:dolly

When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools
with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd
be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. They're
very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be
absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the
only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them,
having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical
skills.


How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political
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....

Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink
screwdrivers though ...


I've seen all kinds of tools in pink - with every sale a donation goes
towards breast cancer research.
....

Sorry, it's spend... spend... spend.


I agree. I can't understand the need to buy new things all the time,
just because of fashion or by being sold - sorry, persuaded - because
the new model of whatever is superior to the old one even when the old
one still does its job.

Mary
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How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political
Correctness of Children?


I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills,
but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with...
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Don't stand between a man and his tools:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8

I liked that a lot. But O'Toole is far older and frailer than in the
clips, he was at a friend's funeral recently and had to use a stick as
well as lean on his companion's arm. He read a piece from Cymbeline,
his voice too was frail and faltering.

Sic transit gloria mundi ...

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On 17 Sep, 14:50, S Viemeister wrote:
Tim Downie wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm


"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by
more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."


Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any
pink screwdrivers though ...


Maybe not in B&Q but...


http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com...+30+Piece+Tool...


When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools
with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd
be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. *They're
very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be
absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the
only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them,
having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical
skills.


Yes, when one of our sons joined the RAF he was the only newbie who
could iron his own shirts and press his trousers - even the girls
couldn't do it. And that was 25 years ago.

Mary
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On 17 Sep, 10:48, Tim S wrote:

....

Maybe connected with the rise in unemployment, giving more people who
now can't afford to "get someone in" and/or no have no excuse for not
rounding that toit.

Chris


We recently got a reputable firm in to do a job which would have taken
us weeks to do. They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever,
employ anyone else again. We're still finding things which need to be
re-done, many weeks afterwards. And that's without their damaging the
structure of a house wall - which we insisted was rebuilt. We didn't
pay the price asked but that's no compensation.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than
a
third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in
DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...



There might be many more crap diy jobs done as well that knock thousands off
the value of a house.

I wonder if the lowering of VAT helped the profits in any way? I certainly
did at the pound shop?

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On 17 Sep, 10:52, Tim S wrote:
If ye have children, get 'em through medical school. They will be busy.

I'm trying to persuade them to be GPs - loads of money for sitting in a
small comfortable room all day. OK, there are downsides - like having to
look at Old Mrs Jones' interesting lumps.


Dermatology's best - lots of opportunity for private practice and long-
term repeat patients. Not much emergency work and patients don't often
die from one's attentions.


Oooh, I don't know.

Hansen's disease (Biblical Leprosy) for instance.

Lots of nasty crusty open sores and oozing skin.

Contrary to common belief fingers and "similar appendages" do not drop
off on their own. You have to get them pulled off. That's where the
dermatologist comes in.

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Dermatology's best - lots of opportunity for private practice and
long- term repeat patients. Not much emergency work and patients
don't often die from one's attentions.

Oooh, I don't know.
Hansen's disease (Biblical Leprosy) for instance.
Lots of nasty crusty open sores and oozing skin.
Contrary to common belief fingers and "similar appendages" do not
drop off on their own. You have to get them pulled off. That's where
the dermatologist comes in.


But hardly widespread in Hampstead or Harrogate.


Might be rife in Wotfud.


And you can get some awfully pretty nurses to help with all the
Restylane injections.


Awful pretty or pretty awful?


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On 17 Sep, 09:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a
third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could
the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...


Tim - "Or will A&E just get busier..."

You are clearly prescient. I had an argument with the planer
yesterday; hadn't used it for a long time and had a moment's aberation
resulting in the loss of some skin from the back of a finger. Nothing
serious but I did go along to the local practice this morning to get
it properly dressed.

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On 17 Sep, 09:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more
than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest"
in DIY."

If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?

Or will A&E just get busier...


Tim - "Or will A&E just get busier..."

You are clearly prescient. I had an argument with the planer
yesterday; hadn't used it for a long time and had a moment's aberation
resulting in the loss of some skin from the back of a finger. Nothing
serious but I did go along to the local practice this morning to get
it properly dressed.

Rob


If I had the power to curse, there are many people who would be in the queue
ahead of you Rob ;-

Ow - hurts like buggery though I bet. I took 0.5mm of skin in a tiny patch
off the back of my finger when I was a kid - either a plane or a chisel - I
forget. ow ow ow... Still feel it just thinking about it.


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On 17 Sep, 09:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm


"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more
than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest"
in DIY."


If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity.
Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing?


Or will A&E just get busier...


Tim - "Or will A&E just get busier..."


You are clearly prescient. *I had an argument with the planer
yesterday; hadn't used it for a long time and had a moment's aberation
resulting in the loss of some skin from the back of a finger. *Nothing
serious but I did go along to the local practice this morning to get
it properly dressed.


Rob


If I had the power to curse, there are many people who would be in the queue
ahead of you Rob ;-

Ow - hurts like buggery though I bet. I took 0.5mm of skin in a tiny patch
off the back of my finger when I was a kid - either a plane or a chisel - I
forget. ow ow ow... Still feel it just thinking about it.


Back of fingers are clearly far less occupied with sensitive nerves
than the fronts thanks goodness, so the pain level wasn't that
significant - just the amount of blood which fortunately I stemmed
successfully with a suitable dressing in the First Aid box ..... and
went back to planing making sure I didn't lose anything else.

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Owain wrote:
On 17 Sep, 21:00, Derek Geldard wrote:
Dermatology's best - lots of opportunity for private practice and
long- term repeat patients. Not much emergency work and patients
don't often die from one's attentions.
Oooh, I don't know.
Hansen's disease (Biblical Leprosy) for instance.
Lots of nasty crusty open sores and oozing skin.
Contrary to common belief fingers and "similar appendages" do not
drop off on their own. You have to get them pulled off. That's where
the dermatologist comes in.


But hardly widespread in Hampstead or Harrogate.


Might be rife in Wotfud.


But would anyone notice ?

we don't have webbed appendages to hold fingers on




And you can get some awfully pretty nurses to help with all the
Restylane injections.


Awful pretty or pretty awful?



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How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political
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I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills,
but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with...



A pink Hilti ?

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On 17 Sep, 14:50, S Viemeister wrote:
Tim Downie wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm


"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by
more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer
interest" in DIY."


Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female
shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any
pink screwdrivers though ...


Maybe not in B&Q but...


http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com...+30+Piece+Tool...


When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools
with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd
be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. *They're
very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be
absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the
only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them,
having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical
skills.


Yes, when one of our sons joined the RAF he was the only newbie who
could iron his own shirts and press his trousers - even the girls
couldn't do it. And that was 25 years ago.

Mary



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They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever,
employ anyone else again. We're still finding things
which need to be re-done, many weeks afterwards.


Miserably found similar.

I kid you not when I say what started as a "list" in 2004 is now
longer than when I started AND nowhere near complete by 2009.
Indeed it caused seemingly less important tasks to get pushed to the
end.

Take a window-cill, now Nynex it.
To back the car off the raised driveway I have to look in the side-
mirrors (well I don't, but the screaming gets tedious) and notice the
window-cill over the planters. I'm going out so can only make a mental
note that the mortar line below the window bares not a jot of
parallelism to the window-cill above. I know the brickie was only
capable of laying bricks whose proximity to any other was not just
chance, but subject to deliberate variation so as to exclude any
accusation that "a wall" was the objective. I ponder whether a
blackhole has formed in my locality creating a lensing effect and
mutter about construction quality, shortly before exploring the latest
pothole in the road without proper protective equipment.

The window has been painted by decorators 3 times since 1997 when
Nynex visited.
On not one occasion did they draw my attention to the cause, merely
applying 2pk epoxy to rigidly hold the cill in its new position so as
to ensure water drains not off the cill but back against the frame.
The cause being a black cable run under the window-cill nailed
*upwards* into the cill so smashing it off the wall to create a gap.
The gap between cill and mortar line varied from 1/2" to over 3/4" -
hidden by a combination of shadow cast by the window cill and
obscurred by the black cable unless viewed from below.

Suffice to say the mortar-line below is now a 3ft long removable
section bonded only to itself, cobwebs and nothing else.
I redecorated the other side due to damp and noted just a tinge of
white hygroscopic on an otherwise fully south facing wall.

It is getting on for late September with a Summer indistinguishable
from a urinal save for fewer fag ends.
So this treat will no doubt wait until another Summer does finally
bestow us with its obligatory ****ing down unless I do a particularly
weak mortar mix and castrate the cable back to its innocuous brown box
cunningly hiding an air-vent they had smashed on first attempt of
cable entry. They might as well employ burglars, they do less damage.
What do cavity wall installers plan on doing to top it - an JCB
breaker to make holes?

It is just depressing, a case of "not their house so who gives a ****".
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How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political
Correctness of Children?


I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills,
but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with...



A pink Hilti ?

We couldn't find pink or purple power tools - but all of the hand tools
are very non-macho-looking, so that they are less likely to be 'borrowed'.
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:54:17 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:

geoff wrote:
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PeterC wrote:
How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political
Correctness of Children?

I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills,
but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with...



A pink Hilti ?

We couldn't find pink or purple power tools - but all of the hand tools
are very non-macho-looking, so that they are less likely to be
'borrowed'.


When she grows up....

http://tinyurl.com/pinktools



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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT), Owain
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On 17 Sep, 22:44, "The Medway Handyman" wrote:
But hardly widespread in Hampstead or Harrogate.

Might be rife in Wotfud.


Might be, but if you're going to practice private dermatology you need
to be within half a mile of a Harvey Nics.


Hunslet then.

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geoff wrote:
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PeterC wrote:
How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political
Correctness of Children?
I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills,
but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with...

A pink Hilti ?

We couldn't find pink or purple power tools - but all of the hand tools
are very non-macho-looking, so that they are less likely to be
'borrowed'.


When she grows up....

http://tinyurl.com/pinktools

She _is_ grown up, now!
Is that drill any good? If it is, it's a thought for a Xmas present.


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On 18 Sep, 00:43, "js.b1" wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:29*pm, "

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They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever,
employ anyone else again. We're still finding things
which need to be re-done, many weeks afterwards.


Miserably found similar.

snipped but read, very carefully.

It is just depressing, a case of "not their house so who gives a ****".


That's the conclusion we've reached. When we called in the site
manager he said that he wouldn't have accepted the work in his house.
The 'workmen' have been hauled over the coals, according to him.

We might be able to use our dining room tomorrow ... I hope so. It's
been depressing - and doesn't help to know that others have suffered
in the same way.

But I do commiserate ...

Mary

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On 17 Sep, 14:50, S Viemeister wrote:
Tim Downie wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm

"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by
more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed
consumer interest" in DIY."

Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the
female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't
seen any pink screwdrivers though ...

Maybe not in B&Q but...

http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com...+30+Piece+Tool...

When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of
tools with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so
that they'd be readily distinguishable from those of her male
flatmates. They're very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so
less likely to be absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out,
not only was she the only one with any tools, she was the only one
who knew how to use them, having grown up in a home where both
parents actually possess practical skills.


Yes, when one of our sons joined the RAF he was the only newbie who
could iron his own shirts and press his trousers - even the girls
couldn't do it. And that was 25 years ago.

Mary



OMG the witch is back


Bit slow Geoff - I've already had a row with her...


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