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"B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... |
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Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Sorry, it's spend... spend... spend. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? More machines are being purchased to do manual jobs, sometimes over the top for the matter in hand and the capacity of the individual to use it safely. {{ insert ALDI/LIDL chainsaw thread here }} Or will A&E just get busier... If ye have children, get 'em through medical school. They will be busy. -- Adrian C |
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Adrian C coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? More machines are being purchased to do manual jobs, sometimes over the top for the matter in hand and the capacity of the individual to use it safely. That's true. Or will A&E just get busier... If ye have children, get 'em through medical school. They will be busy. I'm trying to persuade them to be GPs - loads of money for sitting in a small comfortable room all day. OK, there are downsides - like having to look at Old Mrs Jones' interesting lumps. |
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Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... Maybe not in B&Q but... http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com..._keyword:dolly Tim |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'! How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle grinder? g -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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Roger Mills wrote:
I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'! How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle grinder? g Don't stand between a man and his tools: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8 A great crowd to see live BTW. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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On 17 Sep, 10:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... Maybe connected with the rise in unemployment, giving more people who now can't afford to "get someone in" and/or no have no excuse for not rounding that toit. Chris |
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Roger Mills coughed up some electrons that declared:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'! How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle grinder? g Probably result in a better "success" statistic which will then be filed in the bottom drawer like most other civil service stats... |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:44:49 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Mills wrote: I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'! How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle grinder? g Don't stand between a man and his tools: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8 A great crowd to see live BTW. Chris Indeed! excellent value and how true - don't know if their boogie wonderland is on youtube but ... N |
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![]() "Tim S" wrote in message ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? I don't think it's a case of being helpless, but more a case of being able to pay, so they do (and then using the time saved for something else). I do far less diy than I used to, I now pay a man to do things for me that I used to do myself. tim |
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Tim Downie wrote:
Adrian C wrote: Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... Maybe not in B&Q but... http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com..._keyword:dolly When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. They're very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them, having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical skills. |
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Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Mills wrote: I suspect the latter! Followed by lots more 'Part-P'-type legislation limiting what you can legally do without the appropriate 'qualifications'! How do you fancy having to pass a test before you can use your angle grinder? g Don't stand between a man and his tools: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8 The cartoon version is more realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqNAonCJEMM A great crowd to see live BTW. Yes! -- Ian White |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:50:09 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:
Tim Downie wrote: Adrian C wrote: Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... Maybe not in B&Q but... http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com..._keyword:dolly When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. They're very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them, having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical skills. How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political Correctness of Children? -- Peter. The head of a pin will hold more angels if it's been flattened with an angel-grinder. |
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On 17 Sep, 10:15, Adrian C wrote:
Tim S wrote: .... Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... I've seen all kinds of tools in pink - with every sale a donation goes towards breast cancer research. .... Sorry, it's spend... spend... spend. I agree. I can't understand the need to buy new things all the time, just because of fashion or by being sold - sorry, persuaded - because the new model of whatever is superior to the old one even when the old one still does its job. Mary If a chair keeps your bum off the floor you don't need a new one. |
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PeterC wrote:
How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political Correctness of Children? I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills, but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with... |
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On 17 Sep, 11:44, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Mills wrote: Don't stand between a man and his tools: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTcENEx7_8 I liked that a lot. But O'Toole is far older and frailer than in the clips, he was at a friend's funeral recently and had to use a stick as well as lean on his companion's arm. He read a piece from Cymbeline, his voice too was frail and faltering. Sic transit gloria mundi ... Mary |
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On 17 Sep, 14:50, S Viemeister wrote:
Tim Downie wrote: Adrian C wrote: Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... Maybe not in B&Q but... http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com...+30+Piece+Tool... When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. *They're very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them, having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical skills. Yes, when one of our sons joined the RAF he was the only newbie who could iron his own shirts and press his trousers - even the girls couldn't do it. And that was 25 years ago. Mary |
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On 17 Sep, 11:53, wrote:
On 17 Sep, 10:48, Tim S wrote: .... Maybe connected with the rise in unemployment, giving more people who now can't afford to "get someone in" and/or no have no excuse for not rounding that toit. Chris We recently got a reputable firm in to do a job which would have taken us weeks to do. They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever, employ anyone else again. We're still finding things which need to be re-done, many weeks afterwards. And that's without their damaging the structure of a house wall - which we insisted was rebuilt. We didn't pay the price asked but that's no compensation. Mary |
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![]() "Tim S" wrote in message ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... There might be many more crap diy jobs done as well that knock thousands off the value of a house. I wonder if the lowering of VAT helped the profits in any way? I certainly did at the pound shop? Adam |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:16:16 -0700 (PDT), Owain
wrote: On 17 Sep, 10:52, Tim S wrote: If ye have children, get 'em through medical school. They will be busy. I'm trying to persuade them to be GPs - loads of money for sitting in a small comfortable room all day. OK, there are downsides - like having to look at Old Mrs Jones' interesting lumps. Dermatology's best - lots of opportunity for private practice and long- term repeat patients. Not much emergency work and patients don't often die from one's attentions. Oooh, I don't know. Hansen's disease (Biblical Leprosy) for instance. Lots of nasty crusty open sores and oozing skin. Contrary to common belief fingers and "similar appendages" do not drop off on their own. You have to get them pulled off. That's where the dermatologist comes in. Derek |
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Owain wrote:
On 17 Sep, 21:00, Derek Geldard wrote: Dermatology's best - lots of opportunity for private practice and long- term repeat patients. Not much emergency work and patients don't often die from one's attentions. Oooh, I don't know. Hansen's disease (Biblical Leprosy) for instance. Lots of nasty crusty open sores and oozing skin. Contrary to common belief fingers and "similar appendages" do not drop off on their own. You have to get them pulled off. That's where the dermatologist comes in. But hardly widespread in Hampstead or Harrogate. Might be rife in Wotfud. And you can get some awfully pretty nurses to help with all the Restylane injections. Awful pretty or pretty awful? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 17 Sep, 09:48, Tim S wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... Tim - "Or will A&E just get busier..." You are clearly prescient. I had an argument with the planer yesterday; hadn't used it for a long time and had a moment's aberation resulting in the loss of some skin from the back of a finger. Nothing serious but I did go along to the local practice this morning to get it properly dressed. Rob |
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Rob G coughed up some electrons that declared:
On 17 Sep, 09:48, Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... Tim - "Or will A&E just get busier..." You are clearly prescient. I had an argument with the planer yesterday; hadn't used it for a long time and had a moment's aberation resulting in the loss of some skin from the back of a finger. Nothing serious but I did go along to the local practice this morning to get it properly dressed. Rob If I had the power to curse, there are many people who would be in the queue ahead of you Rob ;- Ow - hurts like buggery though I bet. I took 0.5mm of skin in a tiny patch off the back of my finger when I was a kid - either a plane or a chisel - I forget. ow ow ow... Still feel it just thinking about it. |
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On 17 Sep, 23:13, Tim S wrote:
Rob G coughed up some electrons that declared: On 17 Sep, 09:48, Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." If the claim is correct, I sense a small amount of hope for humanity. Could the general trend of people becoming more helpless be reversing? Or will A&E just get busier... Tim - "Or will A&E just get busier..." You are clearly prescient. *I had an argument with the planer yesterday; hadn't used it for a long time and had a moment's aberation resulting in the loss of some skin from the back of a finger. *Nothing serious but I did go along to the local practice this morning to get it properly dressed. Rob If I had the power to curse, there are many people who would be in the queue ahead of you Rob ;- Ow - hurts like buggery though I bet. I took 0.5mm of skin in a tiny patch off the back of my finger when I was a kid - either a plane or a chisel - I forget. ow ow ow... Still feel it just thinking about it. Back of fingers are clearly far less occupied with sensitive nerves than the fronts thanks goodness, so the pain level wasn't that significant - just the amount of blood which fortunately I stemmed successfully with a suitable dressing in the First Aid box ..... and went back to planing making sure I didn't lose anything else. Rob |
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, wrote: e recently got a reputable firm in to do a job which would have taken us weeks to do. They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever, employ anyone else again. Not a reputable firm, then. -- *It was recently discovered that research causes cancer in rats* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Handyman writes Owain wrote: On 17 Sep, 21:00, Derek Geldard wrote: Dermatology's best - lots of opportunity for private practice and long- term repeat patients. Not much emergency work and patients don't often die from one's attentions. Oooh, I don't know. Hansen's disease (Biblical Leprosy) for instance. Lots of nasty crusty open sores and oozing skin. Contrary to common belief fingers and "similar appendages" do not drop off on their own. You have to get them pulled off. That's where the dermatologist comes in. But hardly widespread in Hampstead or Harrogate. Might be rife in Wotfud. But would anyone notice ? we don't have webbed appendages to hold fingers on And you can get some awfully pretty nurses to help with all the Restylane injections. Awful pretty or pretty awful? -- geoff |
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writes PeterC wrote: How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political Correctness of Children? I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills, but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with... A pink Hilti ? -- geoff |
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, " writes On 17 Sep, 14:50, S Viemeister wrote: Tim Downie wrote: Adrian C wrote: Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... Maybe not in B&Q but... http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com...+30+Piece+Tool... When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. *They're very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them, having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical skills. Yes, when one of our sons joined the RAF he was the only newbie who could iron his own shirts and press his trousers - even the girls couldn't do it. And that was 25 years ago. Mary OMG the witch is back -- geoff |
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On Sep 17, 4:29*pm, "
wrote: They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever, employ anyone else again. We're still finding things which need to be re-done, many weeks afterwards. Miserably found similar. I kid you not when I say what started as a "list" in 2004 is now longer than when I started AND nowhere near complete by 2009. Indeed it caused seemingly less important tasks to get pushed to the end. Take a window-cill, now Nynex it. To back the car off the raised driveway I have to look in the side- mirrors (well I don't, but the screaming gets tedious) and notice the window-cill over the planters. I'm going out so can only make a mental note that the mortar line below the window bares not a jot of parallelism to the window-cill above. I know the brickie was only capable of laying bricks whose proximity to any other was not just chance, but subject to deliberate variation so as to exclude any accusation that "a wall" was the objective. I ponder whether a blackhole has formed in my locality creating a lensing effect and mutter about construction quality, shortly before exploring the latest pothole in the road without proper protective equipment. The window has been painted by decorators 3 times since 1997 when Nynex visited. On not one occasion did they draw my attention to the cause, merely applying 2pk epoxy to rigidly hold the cill in its new position so as to ensure water drains not off the cill but back against the frame. The cause being a black cable run under the window-cill nailed *upwards* into the cill so smashing it off the wall to create a gap. The gap between cill and mortar line varied from 1/2" to over 3/4" - hidden by a combination of shadow cast by the window cill and obscurred by the black cable unless viewed from below. Suffice to say the mortar-line below is now a 3ft long removable section bonded only to itself, cobwebs and nothing else. I redecorated the other side due to damp and noted just a tinge of white hygroscopic on an otherwise fully south facing wall. It is getting on for late September with a Summer indistinguishable from a urinal save for fewer fag ends. So this treat will no doubt wait until another Summer does finally bestow us with its obligatory ****ing down unless I do a particularly weak mortar mix and castrate the cable back to its innocuous brown box cunningly hiding an air-vent they had smashed on first attempt of cable entry. They might as well employ burglars, they do less damage. What do cavity wall installers plan on doing to top it - an JCB breaker to make holes? It is just depressing, a case of "not their house so who gives a ****". |
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geoff wrote:
In message , S Viemeister writes PeterC wrote: How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political Correctness of Children? I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills, but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with... A pink Hilti ? We couldn't find pink or purple power tools - but all of the hand tools are very non-macho-looking, so that they are less likely to be 'borrowed'. |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:54:17 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:
geoff wrote: In message , S Viemeister writes PeterC wrote: How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political Correctness of Children? I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills, but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with... A pink Hilti ? We couldn't find pink or purple power tools - but all of the hand tools are very non-macho-looking, so that they are less likely to be 'borrowed'. When she grows up.... http://tinyurl.com/pinktools -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT), Owain
wrote: On 17 Sep, 22:44, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: But hardly widespread in Hampstead or Harrogate. Might be rife in Wotfud. Might be, but if you're going to practice private dermatology you need to be within half a mile of a Harvey Nics. Hunslet then. Derek |
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Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:54:17 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: geoff wrote: writes PeterC wrote: How did you keep that from the National Society for the Political Correctness of Children? I thought we balanced things fairly well - teaching her 'boy' skills, but giving her girly-coloured tools to do it with... A pink Hilti ? We couldn't find pink or purple power tools - but all of the hand tools are very non-macho-looking, so that they are less likely to be 'borrowed'. When she grows up.... http://tinyurl.com/pinktools She _is_ grown up, now! Is that drill any good? If it is, it's a thought for a Xmas present. |
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On 18 Sep, 00:43, "js.b1" wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:29*pm, " wrote: They made such a mess of it that we'll never, ever, employ anyone else again. We're still finding things which need to be re-done, many weeks afterwards. Miserably found similar. snipped but read, very carefully. It is just depressing, a case of "not their house so who gives a ****". That's the conclusion we've reached. When we called in the site manager he said that he wouldn't have accepted the work in his house. The 'workmen' have been hauled over the coals, according to him. We might be able to use our dining room tomorrow ... I hope so. It's been depressing - and doesn't help to know that others have suffered in the same way. But I do commiserate ... Mary |
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geoff wrote:
In message , " writes On 17 Sep, 14:50, S Viemeister wrote: Tim Downie wrote: Adrian C wrote: Tim S wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8260233.stm "B&Q owner Kingfisher has seen its half-year profits increase by more than a third, saying it was benefiting from a "renewed consumer interest" in DIY." Not so long ago, B&Q claimed they were making a pitch for the female shoppers of "fashionable home decoration" items. I haven't seen any pink screwdrivers though ... Maybe not in B&Q but... http://thingsfestive.weddingstar.com...+30+Piece+Tool... When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we bought her a set of tools with pink or purple handles (not the ones in your link), so that they'd be readily distinguishable from those of her male flatmates. They're very good tools, but a bit 'fluffy-looking', so less likely to be absorbed into someone else's toolbox. Turns out, not only was she the only one with any tools, she was the only one who knew how to use them, having grown up in a home where both parents actually possess practical skills. Yes, when one of our sons joined the RAF he was the only newbie who could iron his own shirts and press his trousers - even the girls couldn't do it. And that was 25 years ago. Mary OMG the witch is back Bit slow Geoff - I've already had a row with her... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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