I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

On 17 Dec, 22:37, wrote:
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas *how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes *http://img..photobucket.com/albums/v...t/IMG_9258.jpg

Hang 'em on a picture hook...tadaaa.

Probably no need to mention they're at different orientations so they
can be used whether the picture's portrait or landscape.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:46:21 -0800 (PST), Lino expert
wrote:

On 17 Dec, 22:37, wrote:
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas *how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes *http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

Hang 'em on a picture hook...tadaaa.

Yeah,thats what I thought but they are tight to the board .That's why
I tried to prise it up slightly and that's when it came away from the
board .

Probably no need to mention they're at different orientations so they
can be used whether the picture's portrait or landscape.

I managed to work that one out ..lol

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg


Hammer a small nail into the wall with virtually only the head sticking out.
Then hook the serrated bit over the head - using whichever notch gives the
best balance.
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:14:17 -0000, "Roger Mills"
wrote:

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg


Hammer a small nail into the wall with virtually only the head sticking out.
Then hook the serrated bit over the head - using whichever notch gives the
best balance.

Not now possible as it came off when I tried to prise it up as it's
tight to the board ...Stupid design if ever I saw one ....you couldn't
get a nail head under the serrated part it's so tight .

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:37:18 +0000, wrote:

I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord under it and it just pinged
away from the backboard.

There should be a hole behind the toothed hole in the clip to take the
head of a round head screw. Or bend them away as you tried and use a
picture hook with the protruding part of the hook parallel with the bit
against the wall.


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Cheers
Dave.

wrote:
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things like this,
they have clearlynever hung anything on a wall before.

The idea is the serrations hook over the head of a countersunk screw and
give a small lateral movement. What you actually need is a small up/down
'adjustability' to ensure level, given the problem of getting two holes
perfectly horizontal on a wide variety of walls.

They should be proud of the frame by a few mm. Take them back & exchange
them for some that are.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

wrote:
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things like this,
they have clearlynever hung anything on a wall before.
I'd agree with that

The idea is the serrations hook over the head of a countersunk screw and
give a small lateral movement. What you actually need is a small up/down
'adjustability' to ensure level, given the problem of getting two holes
perfectly horizontal on a wide variety of walls.

Well on these seems to be no way of getting the serrations over
anything but I'll have another try


They should be proud of the frame by a few mm. Take them back & exchange
them for some that are.
Unfortunately I got them mailorder from Wilkinsons and returning them
for replacements when the likelihood is that they'd be the same is a
pain . I'll use picture hooks and find some way of hooking it to the
back of the frame but I'll e-mail Wilkinsons to suggest they have a
look at the fitting

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:14:17 -0000, "Roger Mills"
wrote:

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

Hammer a small nail into the wall with virtually only the head sticking out.
Then hook the serrated bit over the head - using whichever notch gives the
best balance.

Not now possible as it came off when I tried to prise it up as it's
tight to the board ...Stupid design if ever I saw one ....you couldn't
get a nail head under the serrated part it's so tight .

IME, you need to price them away a little - however they should stay
fixed to the board. Yours sounds like it was not well enough fixed. (if
in doubt, place the frame face down on a flat surface, hold the base of
the fixing against the wood before bending the top out a bit - that
should save some load on its fixings).

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wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"


I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things
like this, they have clearly never hung anything on a wall before.

I'd agree with that

Hung a mirror last week. From Arrggh-os, my favourites. No fixings
included - saved me the trouble of binning them.

Two upside down 'keyhole' slots on the back with a rebate underneath, the
idea being that it dropped over two screw heads.

Convenietly spaced at 96.5cm apart, so at 48.25cm centres. Marked out,
drilled, plugged put in screws. I then find out that the larger hole in the
keyhole won't allow the head of a No:8 or 4mm screw through - had to ease it
out with a drill bit.

Why not space the holes at 96.0cm & make the holes large enough for what is
probably the most common screw size?

The mind boggles.

BTW I really like these 'Uno' universal plugs from Rawlplug. Been usng them
for a few months now, really do seem to work on all types of wall.
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/32796/...ket-560-Pieces


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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

wrote in message
...
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I would suggest that the little black clip has been fitted back to front.
If it was flipped over there would be space for the head of the screw or
tack.

Baz.

"Baz" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I would suggest that the little black clip has been fitted back to front.
If it was flipped over there would be space for the head of the screw or
tack.

Correct!


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(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

Bob Mannix wrote:
"Baz" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the
back there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one
horizontal but I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how
they should be used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held
to the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I would suggest that the little black clip has been fitted back to
front. If it was flipped over there would be space for the head of
the screw or tack.

Correct!

But then the fixing pins (I think that's what they are) and the countersinks
are on the wrong side.

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"Reentrant" wrote in message
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Bob Mannix wrote:
"Baz" wrote in message
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wrote in message
...
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the
back there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one
horizontal but I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how
they should be used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held
to the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I would suggest that the little black clip has been fitted back to
front. If it was flipped over there would be space for the head of
the screw or tack.

Correct!

But then the fixing pins (I think that's what they are) and the
countersinks are on the wrong side.


Possibly but I have hung several pictures using these fixings, they allow
approximate positioning of the fixing by the manufacturer (for speed as you
have can choose the best notch for the nail to sit in when you hang. They
are quite standard. Whether these are poorly manufactured or what, I don't
know.


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

On Dec 18, 12:18*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas *how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things like this,
they have clearlynever hung anything on a wall before.

The idea is the serrations hook over the head of a countersunk screw and
give a small lateral movement. *What you actually need is a small up/down
'adjustability' to ensure level, given the problem of getting two holes
perfectly horizontal on a wide variety of walls.

But you only have *one* hole. Read what the OP said. The lateral
adjustment from choosing one of the serrations moves the centre of
gravity and allows you to hang it level.

They should be proud of the frame by a few mm. *

They are. The photo clearly shows the serrations are inset enough to
go over the head of a nail, but maybe they were fitted the wrong way
round. I've never had any problem with them.

MBQ

The message
from contains these words:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
I'll use picture hooks and find some way of hooking it to the
back of the frame but I'll e-mail Wilkinsons to suggest they have a
look at the fitting

Phone picturelizard.co.uk and they'll supply you with fittings which
slip over the hardboard backboard and are easily adjustable. They work!

On Dec 18, 8:56*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things
like this, they have clearly never hung anything on a wall before.
I'd agree with that

Hung a mirror last week. *From Arrggh-os, my favourites. *No fixings
included - saved me the trouble of binning them.

Two upside down 'keyhole' slots on the back with a rebate underneath, the
idea being that it dropped over two screw heads.

Convenietly spaced at 96.5cm apart, so at 48.25cm centres. Marked out,
drilled, plugged put in screws. *I then find out that the larger hole in the
keyhole won't allow the head of a No:8 or 4mm screw through - had to ease it
out with a drill bit.

Should have checked!


Why not space the holes at 96.0cm

How does that help?

In either case you need to measure to, say, at least 0.1cm precision.
If you can't measure 48.25 then nor can you measure 48.00. Just
measure to the nearest mm in either case and quit moaning.

MBQ

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:33:18 -0800 (PST), "Man at B&Q"
wrote:

On Dec 18, 12:18*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas *how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things like this,
they have clearlynever hung anything on a wall before.

The idea is the serrations hook over the head of a countersunk screw and
give a small lateral movement. *What you actually need is a small up/down
'adjustability' to ensure level, given the problem of getting two holes
perfectly horizontal on a wide variety of walls.

But you only have *one* hole. Read what the OP said. The lateral
adjustment from choosing one of the serrations moves the centre of
gravity and allows you to hang it level.

They should be proud of the frame by a few mm. *

They are. The photo clearly shows the serrations are inset enough to
go over the head of a nail, but maybe they were fitted the wrong way
round. I've never had any problem with them.

MBQ

Re the photo. You might think a nail can go under the serrated bit but
trust me the fitting is flat to the board .That's why I prised it up
but it came away from the board .Since last night I have experimented
with the second frame and found that if I insert a thin screwdriver
under the serrated part while pressing down on the rest of the fitting
I can bend it up slightly to enable it to be hung on a long panel pin
or similar .BUT WTF don't they enclose instructions on what you need
to do

"Man at B&Q" wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 8:56 am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things
like this, they have clearly never hung anything on a wall before.
I'd agree with that

Hung a mirror last week. From Arrggh-os, my favourites. No fixings
included - saved me the trouble of binning them.

Two upside down 'keyhole' slots on the back with a rebate underneath, the
idea being that it dropped over two screw heads.

Convenietly spaced at 96.5cm apart, so at 48.25cm centres. Marked out,
drilled, plugged put in screws. I then find out that the larger hole in
the
keyhole won't allow the head of a No:8 or 4mm screw through - had to ease
it
out with a drill bit.

Should have checked!


Why not space the holes at 96.0cm

How does that help?

In either case you need to measure to, say, at least 0.1cm precision.
If you can't measure 48.25 then nor can you measure 48.00. Just
measure to the nearest mm in either case and quit moaning.

Maybe he should have used inches?
38 inches.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:39:19 GMT, Appin wrote:

The message
from contains these words:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
I'll use picture hooks and find some way of hooking it to the
back of the frame but I'll e-mail Wilkinsons to suggest they have a
look at the fitting

Phone picturelizard.co.uk and they'll supply you with fittings which
slip over the hardboard backboard and are easily adjustable. They work!

Got any idea what they call them? .I've had a look but can't see what
you speak of .I can only see Swiss Clips and a hanging kit
( hooks,wire etc ) http://www.picturelizard.co.uk/index.php

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:37:18 +0000, wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

The serrated bit is so you can hang the picture off one of them and
adjust for level. I never bother. Use a stapler to pin a bit of string
right across the back of the frame and hang that off the nail

Man at B&Q wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:56 am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things
like this, they have clearly never hung anything on a wall before.
I'd agree with that

Hung a mirror last week. From Arrggh-os, my favourites. No fixings
included - saved me the trouble of binning them.

Two upside down 'keyhole' slots on the back with a rebate
underneath, the idea being that it dropped over two screw heads.

Convenietly spaced at 96.5cm apart, so at 48.25cm centres. Marked
out, drilled, plugged put in screws. I then find out that the larger
hole in the keyhole won't allow the head of a No:8 or 4mm screw
through - had to ease it out with a drill bit.

Should have checked!


Why not space the holes at 96.0cm

Easier to divide by two....


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Alang wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:37:18 +0000, wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

The serrated bit is so you can hang the picture off one of them and
adjust for level. I never bother. Use a stapler to pin a bit of string
right across the back of the frame and hang that off the nail

Or even a couple of drawing pins

Man at B&Q wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:56 am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"

I dispair of the idiots who design the fixing systems for things
like this, they have clearly never hung anything on a wall before.
I'd agree with that

Hung a mirror last week. From Arrggh-os, my favourites. No fixings
included - saved me the trouble of binning them.

Two upside down 'keyhole' slots on the back with a rebate
underneath, the idea being that it dropped over two screw heads.

Convenietly spaced at 96.5cm apart, so at 48.25cm centres. Marked
out, drilled, plugged put in screws. I then find out that the larger
hole in the keyhole won't allow the head of a No:8 or 4mm screw
through - had to ease it out with a drill bit.

Should have checked!

If you mean Arrggh-os should have checked, you would be correct.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:01:07 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Alang wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:37:18 +0000, wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

The serrated bit is so you can hang the picture off one of them and
adjust for level. I never bother. Use a stapler to pin a bit of string
right across the back of the frame and hang that off the nail

Or even a couple of drawing pins

Depends on the weight of the frame.

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:49:50 +0000, Alang
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:01:07 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Alang wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:37:18 +0000, wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg

The serrated bit is so you can hang the picture off one of them and
adjust for level. I never bother. Use a stapler to pin a bit of string
right across the back of the frame and hang that off the nail

Or even a couple of drawing pins

Depends on the weight of the frame.

I glued the fitting back on with Araldite and hung the 2 pics on thin
nails but as someone else said these hangers have horiz adjustment but
there is no way of any vertical adjustment . I have found some
screw-in eyes on old wooden curtain rings that I found in a drawer so
I think I'll screw them in to the frames and run a piece of fly-line
backing across each and that should do to hang them on the nails .
Thx to all for your help.

wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:49:50 +0000, Alang
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:01:07 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Alang wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:37:18 +0000, wrote:

I got a couple of picture frames from Wilkinsons today and on the back
there are two things to hang them..one vertical and one horizontal but
I've never seen the like before .Anyone any ideas how they should be
used ..
Have a look at the pic. I tried to bend one up to get a wire or cord
under it and it just pinged away from the backboard .They are held to
the board by lugs behind the two round holes .

I guess I'll need to nail pins in or a couple of small eyes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_9258.jpg
The serrated bit is so you can hang the picture off one of them and
adjust for level. I never bother. Use a stapler to pin a bit of string
right across the back of the frame and hang that off the nail
Or even a couple of drawing pins
Depends on the weight of the frame.

I glued the fitting back on with Araldite and hung the 2 pics on thin
nails but as someone else said these hangers have horiz adjustment but
there is no way of any vertical adjustment . I have found some
screw-in eyes on old wooden curtain rings that I found in a drawer so
I think I'll screw them in to the frames and run a piece of fly-line
backing across each and that should do to hang them on the nails .
Thx to all for your help.

Means you won't be able to get the frame flat against the wall though

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:


I glued the fitting back on with Araldite and hung the 2 pics on thin
nails but as someone else said these hangers have horiz adjustment but
there is no way of any vertical adjustment .

The horizontal adjustment provides some tolerance for the positioning of the
plate at the manufacturing stage, and is purely to allow you to balance the
frame on a single nail so that it isn't lop-sided when hanging - it's not
for moving the picture bodily sideways by more than a mm or two. The whole
thing assumes that you have sufficient skills of measurement and dexterity
to be able to hammer in the nail in the right place, both horizontally and
vertically.
--
Cheers,
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:39:19 GMT, Appin wrote:

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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:18:29 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
I'll use picture hooks and find some way of hooking it to the
back of the frame but I'll e-mail Wilkinsons to suggest they have a
look at the fitting

Phone picturelizard.co.uk and they'll supply you with fittings which
slip over the hardboard backboard and are easily adjustable. They work!

Got any idea what they call them? .I've had a look but can't see what
you speak of .I can only see Swiss Clips and a hanging kit
( hooks,wire etc ) http://www.picturelizard.co.uk/index.php

No idea what they call them and I didn't see them on the website.
However, speaking to them on the phone I mentioned that one or two of
the hanging clips on their frames had broken off, so they supplied me
with these excellent clips gratis.