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What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional
special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. It seems some shredder oils are the consistency of a light machine oil which is heavier than I would have predicted. I wonder if some of the newer lubes (graphite sprays, PTFE, etc) would do a good job? I guess the main requirements are probably (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. ======================== Advice pages on the internet seem confused: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060830093845AA7venA (1) mineral oil.......food grade (2) Mineral oil or sewing machine oil. (3) We use 5W30 motor oil ours and it has been working fine for a year and a half. (4) use mineral oil. if you use any type of pertroleum based oil it will get on the paper you are shredding, and in turn get into the land fill. i know you are saying it is such a small amount, but how many shreders are out there??? imagine if everyone used regular oil in their shreders.... imagine the amount of oil that would go into the land fill, and then into the water table. (5) They are all lubricants. Any oil is fine, WD-40 or whatever you have. (6) A very light weight oil. sewing machine oil should do it. [AFAIK mineral oil is a petroleoum oil] ================ I have tended to use a silicone spray lubricant or a silicon + PTFE spray like these. However but they do not seem to provide enough lube to prevent cuttings staying on the shredder blade (and I am not applying so much lube thatthe cuttings stick to the blade). http://www.maplin.co.uk/Silicone_Gre...th_PTFE.search http://www.maplin.co.uk/Multi_Purpos..._Grease.search |
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:23:00 +0100, Alan wrote:
What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. Good idea - it is not a lubricant. Geo |
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Geo writes: On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:23:00 +0100, Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. Good idea - it is not a lubricant. and it's really good for washing old lubricants off (e.g. prior to replacing them). -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Aug 3, 7:23*am, Alan wrote:
What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. * WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. It is a penetrating oil. Its designed purpose is to ooze into cracks between pieces of metal that have been frozen together by rust/pressure/etc. and provide enough lubrication to allow them to be separated. The secret of WD40 is in the *volatile* components, which give it a low surface energy (google "angle of repose") so that it spreads out on the metal surface and displaces absorbed water (which leads to oxidation of the metal - rust). You want a lubricant that is non-volatile, even at operating temperatures. As a GP lubricant my lab used motor oil (SAE 50 or less) for most applications. In sensitive applications where microliter amounts were needed, but excess would cause contamination problems, we applied it with an insulin syringe. It seems some shredder oils are the consistency of a light machine oil which is heavier than I would have predicted. * The heat of normal operation will reduce the viscosity of the oil somewhat. I wonder if some of the newer lubes (graphite sprays, PTFE, etc) would do a good job? *I guess the main requirements are probably (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. Dry lubricants can be very useful. We used Dow-Corning's Moly-Kote (molybdenum disulfide base) for anything requiring high temperature stability, low vapor pressure, or where servicing down-time is expensive. Downside is that the aerosol cans are messy to use: if delicate application was required we sprayed a small amount into a small container and then painted/daubed the Moly-Kote where needed. ======================== Advice pages on the internet seem confused: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060830093845AA7venA (1) mineral oil.......food grade (2) Mineral oil or sewing machine oil. (3) We use 5W30 motor oil ours and it has been working fine for a year and a half. (4) use mineral oil. if you use any type of pertroleum based oil it will get on the paper you are shredding, and in turn get into the land fill. i know you are saying it is such a small amount, but how many shreders are out there??? imagine if everyone used regular oil in their shreders.... imagine the amount of oil that would go into the land fill, and then into the water table. (5) They are all lubricants. Any oil is fine, WD-40 or whatever you have. (6) A very light weight oil. sewing machine oil should do it. [AFAIK mineral oil is a petroleoum oil] Correct. Petroleum oil is simply an unspecified mixture of hydrocarbons with a known boiling range: As a rough guide: http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/u47...fractions.html http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genche...anic/coal.html I have tended to use a silicone spray lubricant or a silicon + PTFE spray like these. *However but they do not seem to provide enough lube to prevent cuttings staying on the shredder blade (and I am not applying so much lube thatthe cuttings stick to the blade).http://www.maplin.co.uk/Silicone_Gre..._Grease.search Your problem may be static electricity. The cuttings from a paper shredder are ideal for the old static electricity experiment of running a plastic comb through someone's hair and holding it over the shredded paper. Look to electrically grounding the moving parts. Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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tadchem wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:23 am, Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. It is a penetrating oil. Its designed purpose is to ooze into cracks between pieces of metal that have been frozen together by rust/pressure/etc. and provide enough lubrication to allow them to be separated. The secret of WD40 is in the *volatile* components, which give it a low surface energy (google "angle of repose") so that it spreads out on the metal surface and displaces absorbed water (which leads to oxidation of the metal - rust). You want a lubricant that is non-volatile, even at operating temperatures. As a GP lubricant my lab used motor oil (SAE 50 or less) for most applications. In sensitive applications where microliter amounts were needed, but excess would cause contamination problems, we applied it with an insulin syringe. It seems some shredder oils are the consistency of a light machine oil which is heavier than I would have predicted. The heat of normal operation will reduce the viscosity of the oil somewhat. I wonder if some of the newer lubes (graphite sprays, PTFE, etc) would do a good job? I guess the main requirements are probably (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. Dry lubricants can be very useful. We used Dow-Corning's Moly-Kote (molybdenum disulfide base) for anything requiring high temperature stability, low vapor pressure, or where servicing down-time is expensive. Downside is that the aerosol cans are messy to use: if delicate application was required we sprayed a small amount into a small container and then painted/daubed the Moly-Kote where needed. ======================== Advice pages on the internet seem confused: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060830093845AA7venA (1) mineral oil.......food grade (2) Mineral oil or sewing machine oil. (3) We use 5W30 motor oil ours and it has been working fine for a year and a half. (4) use mineral oil. if you use any type of pertroleum based oil it will get on the paper you are shredding, and in turn get into the land fill. i know you are saying it is such a small amount, but how many shreders are out there??? imagine if everyone used regular oil in their shreders.... imagine the amount of oil that would go into the land fill, and then into the water table. (5) They are all lubricants. Any oil is fine, WD-40 or whatever you have. (6) A very light weight oil. sewing machine oil should do it. [AFAIK mineral oil is a petroleoum oil] Correct. Petroleum oil is simply an unspecified mixture of hydrocarbons with a known boiling range: As a rough guide: http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/u47...fractions.html http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genche...anic/coal.html I have tended to use a silicone spray lubricant or a silicon + PTFE spray like these. However but they do not seem to provide enough lube to prevent cuttings staying on the shredder blade (and I am not applying so much lube thatthe cuttings stick to the blade).http://www.maplin.co.uk/Silicone_Gre..._Grease.search Your problem may be static electricity. The cuttings from a paper shredder are ideal for the old static electricity experiment of running a plastic comb through someone's hair and holding it over the shredded paper. Look to electrically grounding the moving parts. Or run the shredder in the bathroom. I don't think I'd use mineral oil; after a while it would become gunk and have to be cleaned. /BAH |
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Alan wrote:
What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Here is the real trick, Buy a sub at your local sub shop and tell them extra olive oil. (Ham and Cheese and all your fave other toppings.) but with extra olive oil. The sub shop usually uses a slightly waxed paper and the oil actually soaks into it a bit. Before you shread anything that day, eat the sub and get rid of all the food and any "massive drippings of the oil". Then shred the paper sub wrapping, and start shredding your other stuff. I never used any other oil ever and usually only got an extra olive oil sub every third day or so. The wax and oil will keep those blades like day one for many shreds. ![]() -- James M Driscoll Jr Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory Spaceman |
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:37:10 -0400, "Spaceman"
wrote: Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Here is the real trick, Buy a sub at your local sub shop and tell them extra olive oil. (Ham and Cheese and all your fave other toppings.) but with extra olive oil. The sub shop usually uses a slightly waxed paper and the oil actually soaks into it a bit. Before you shread anything that day, eat the sub and get rid of all the food and any "massive drippings of the oil". Then shred the paper sub wrapping, and start shredding your other stuff. I never used any other oil ever and usually only got an extra olive oil sub every third day or so. The wax and oil will keep those blades like day one for many shreds. ![]() But your guts will end up like the black hole of Calcutta. 8-(( Derek |
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Derek Geldard wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:37:10 -0400, "Spaceman" wrote: Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Here is the real trick, Buy a sub at your local sub shop and tell them extra olive oil. (Ham and Cheese and all your fave other toppings.) but with extra olive oil. The sub shop usually uses a slightly waxed paper and the oil actually soaks into it a bit. Before you shread anything that day, eat the sub and get rid of all the food and any "massive drippings of the oil". Then shred the paper sub wrapping, and start shredding your other stuff. I never used any other oil ever and usually only got an extra olive oil sub every third day or so. The wax and oil will keep those blades like day one for many shreds. ![]() But your guts will end up like the black hole of Calcutta. 8-(( But olive oil is good for you, It oils your insides! ![]() But if you don't wish to eat all that, you can always buy some wax paper and a bottle of olive oil. (not cheap but lasts a long time if you are only putting a few drops on a piece of paper every week or so. ![]() I will admit though.. I don't know if it was the wax paper or the olive oil that did the trick for that shredder. I think it liked both though. ![]() -- James M Driscoll Jr Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory Spaceman |
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tadchem wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:23 am, Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. Why do the makers describe it as "The world's number one multi-purpose lubricant" then? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
tadchem wrote: On Aug 3, 7:23 am, Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. Why do the makers describe it as "The world's number one multi-purpose lubricant" then? not sure but a company I worked for banned its use as it caused more problems than it fixed, and it became a disciplinary offence if you were caught using it, and we were then issued with a normal oil can, I did read on the web under certain conditions it will corrode metal(which might be a myth) -- Kevin R Reply address works |
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:34:29 UTC, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: tadchem wrote: On Aug 3, 7:23 am, Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. Why do the makers describe it as "The world's number one multi-purpose lubricant" then? Marketing. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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![]() "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... | tadchem wrote: | On Aug 3, 7:23 am, Alan wrote: | What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an | additional | special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home | office? | | Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. | | WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. | | Why do the makers describe it as "The world's number one multi-purpose | lubricant" then? If that were true it would be used on condoms, the number one multi-purpose buy me and stop one contraceptive. |
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Alan wrote:
(1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. Number 3 is pretty important. The combination of lubricant and paper dust is very abrasive to machinery. This was a big problem during the days of punched cards. Note the difference between grease and oil. Generally speaking, places that need grease should never be oiled and places that need oil should never be greased. Grease acts like a solvent for oil. Rather than trying to re-engineer the lubrication system, I'd stick as closely to the manufacturer's design as possible, because there might have been engineering considerations you're not aware of. For example, what if the machine catches fire? A PTFE-based lubricant would emit toxic gases. A silicone oil might spread into the motor or switch contact points, causing an open circuit. If a light machine oil is the closest substitute, that seems like a safe bet. My mom uses 3-in-1 oil on her sewing machine. I don't know if that brand is available in the UK, but from your description of the problem, that seems like a good fit. |
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Alan wrote:
What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. It seems some shredder oils are the consistency of a light machine oil which is heavier than I would have predicted. I wonder if some of the newer lubes (graphite sprays, PTFE, etc) would do a good job? I guess the main requirements are probably (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. 1) Clean it out, hit it with a teflon spray lube, Run empty for a few seconds, let dry. Or, 1a) Take out the cutter, ion plate with titanium nitride, reinstall. Or, 1c) Take out the cutter, microwave CVD with titanium diboride, reinstall. That last will shred scrap iron. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:22:16 UTC, Mark Thorson wrote:
Alan wrote: (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. Number 3 is pretty important. The combination of lubricant and paper dust is very abrasive to machinery. This was a big problem during the days of punched cards. I just use the real shredder oil - it's much cheaper than a new shredder. I did find that congealed paper dust caused a problem once, after about 3-4 years' use. It caused the paper sensor on the input slot to jam so that the motor ran all the time. A strip down and clean took just a few minutes. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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On Aug 3, 11:05*am, "Bob Eager" wrote:
Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. WD40 is not a general purpose lubricant. Why do the makers describe it as "The world's number one multi-purpose lubricant" then? Marketing. Absolutely. As someone noted above, WD40 is NOT a "lubricant". It is a penetrating substance designed to loosen rusted fasteners and the like. They market it as something you can spray on to "protect" metal objects, but that is just hype. Truth is that the stories about WD40 rusting metal are NOT myth! IT DOES do that! And anyone using it on a shredder to "protect" the metal from corrosion needs to be paying the office fines! WD40 is good stuff for what it does. If you are taking an old muffler off a car it can't be beat. But beware the "metal protection" nonsense. It has the OPPOSITE effect! As for oiling a shredder or any other thing you might be temped to use WD40 on, I'd recommend good old 10W-30 Motor oil it usually does a great job both protecting metal from rust and lubricating. Wax is OK, (from wax paper) but tends to be thick and not get into all the right places. However it does have an advantage that the wax lubricates without getting all sticky and having dirt and abrasive paper powder mix with it. Olive oil, I'd suspect is not the best lubricant. I'd say if you think motor oil is too heavy then the next choice would be sewing machine oil. ...or you could just feed the whole sub into the shredder paper and all... |
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Benj wrote:
WD40 is good stuff for what it does. If you are taking an old muffler off a car it can't be beat. Plusgas is a much better penetrating, nut/bolt freeing product. Remember what the the WD stands for "water displacer", it's good at that but for lubrication or nut freeing there are much better products about. ...or you could just feed the whole sub into the shredder paper and all... Thats probably the best thing to do, save you having to eat the ghastly thing. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Benj wrote: WD40 is good stuff for what it does. If you are taking an old muffler off a car it can't be beat. Plusgas is a much better penetrating, nut/bolt freeing product. Remember what the the WD stands for "water displacer", it's good at that but for lubrication or nut freeing there are much better products about. The best stuff around for penetrating used to be Zep 45 but I think it was renamed to Zep Twister. They also have a soy based stuff but I never used it. They really know chemicals. www.zep.com -- James M Driscoll Jr Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory Spaceman |
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In message , Alan
writes What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? 3 in 1. I've got a Fellowes cross cut under the desk in front of me. It is the only one I've ever bothered to lube and it seems to have surpassed the 2 other (never lubed) ones before it. Certainly hasn't broken it anyway. Hth Someone |
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What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. WD40 will appear to work well for a minute or two, until the cutters get hot and cause a fireball. I speak from stupid experience, and my eyebrows, mustache, and hair add their support. Buy the sheets from an office supply place. They're cheap and neat. |
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On Aug 3, 7:23*am, Alan wrote:
What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. * It seems some shredder oils are the consistency of a light machine oil which is heavier than I would have predicted. * I wonder if some of the newer lubes (graphite sprays, PTFE, etc) would do a good job? *I guess the main requirements are probably (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. ======================== Advice pages on the internet seem confused: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060830093845AA7venA (1) mineral oil.......food grade (2) Mineral oil or sewing machine oil. (3) We use 5W30 motor oil ours and it has been working fine for a year and a half. (4) use mineral oil. if you use any type of pertroleum based oil it will get on the paper you are shredding, and in turn get into the land fill. i know you are saying it is such a small amount, but how many shreders are out there??? imagine if everyone used regular oil in their shreders.... imagine the amount of oil that would go into the land fill, and then into the water table. (5) They are all lubricants. Any oil is fine, WD-40 or whatever you have. (6) A very light weight oil. sewing machine oil should do it. [AFAIK mineral oil is a petroleoum oil] ================ I have tended to use a silicone spray lubricant or a silicon + PTFE spray like these. *However but they do not seem to provide enough lube to prevent cuttings staying on the shredder blade (and I am not applying so much lube thatthe cuttings stick to the blade).http://www.maplin.co.uk/Silicone_Gre..._Grease.search Am I the only person in this thread that sees a problem with combining paper dust, random types of oil, friction and sparks from shredded staples, all in one spot? |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Aug 3, 7:23 am, Alan wrote: What substitute oil can I use to save me the cost of buying an additional special oil for my Fellowes cross-cut shredder used in my home office? Shredder manufacturers say to avoid WD40. It seems some shredder oils are the consistency of a light machine oil which is heavier than I would have predicted. I wonder if some of the newer lubes (graphite sprays, PTFE, etc) would do a good job? I guess the main requirements are probably (1) to avoid the oil dripping off the blades soon (2) to have enough lubricant powert os top wear (3) to avoid holding paper dust such that over time it becomes congealed. ======================== Advice pages on the internet seem confused: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060830093845AA7venA (1) mineral oil.......food grade (2) Mineral oil or sewing machine oil. (3) We use 5W30 motor oil ours and it has been working fine for a year and a half. (4) use mineral oil. if you use any type of pertroleum based oil it will get on the paper you are shredding, and in turn get into the land fill. i know you are saying it is such a small amount, but how many shreders are out there??? imagine if everyone used regular oil in their shreders.... imagine the amount of oil that would go into the land fill, and then into the water table. (5) They are all lubricants. Any oil is fine, WD-40 or whatever you have. (6) A very light weight oil. sewing machine oil should do it. [AFAIK mineral oil is a petroleoum oil] ================ I have tended to use a silicone spray lubricant or a silicon + PTFE spray like these. However but they do not seem to provide enough lube to prevent cuttings staying on the shredder blade (and I am not applying so much lube thatthe cuttings stick to the blade).http://www.maplin.co.uk/Silicone_Gre..._Grease.search Am I the only person in this thread that sees a problem with combining paper dust, random types of oil, friction and sparks from shredded staples, all in one spot? I used to lubricate our office shredder. Since retiring 4 years ago no-one has bothered - it is still working. (in a busy HR Dept) |
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[snip] Am I the only person in this thread that sees a problem with combining paper dust, random types of oil, friction and sparks from shredded staples, all in one spot? If it needs any lube at all a Teflon dry lube spray is good enough. One could dampen a sheet of paper with Mobil 1 and run that through the shredder. Adding wet lube to a dusty environment is overall unclever. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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replying to Spaceman, Norm wrote:
I watched a vid that changed a sheet of printer paper into tracing paper by using baby oil. I don't know what baby oil is made of, but could you then run that baby oil infused tracing paper through the shredder to lubricate it? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...er-498155-.htm |
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On 3/19/2017 9:14 PM, Norm wrote:
replying to Spaceman, Norm wrote: I watched a vid that changed a sheet of printer paper into tracing paper by using baby oil. I don't know what baby oil is made of, but could you then run that baby oil infused tracing paper through the shredder to lubricate it? bb oil is mineral oil |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:14:03 GMT, Norm wrote:
replying to Spaceman, Norm wrote: I watched a vid that changed a sheet of printer paper into tracing paper by using baby oil. I don't know what baby oil is made of, but could you then run that baby oil infused tracing paper through the shredder to lubricate it? I'm using Johnson's Baby Oil on trimmers and clippers. For the x-cut shredder, I put some in the bottom of a lightweight C4 envelope and ran that through - it does make a difference, at least in the sound - but doesn't last very long of course. Seems to me it's difficult to keep any lube on a shredder as the paper cleans it off. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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I would have thought it most likely to gum it all up. the bits that need
lubricating asare usually the gears and motor drive, as small bits of paper dust can get into theworks. First though if you can get at the mechanism, clean it then use sewing machine oil type stuff. It has to be non sticky or it will just gum up with the paper dust. To be honest most of the shredders I've had have died due to the motor burning out or the gears, often naff plastic ones losing teeth. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Norm" m wrote in message ... replying to Spaceman, Norm wrote: I watched a vid that changed a sheet of printer paper into tracing paper by using baby oil. I don't know what baby oil is made of, but could you then run that baby oil infused tracing paper through the shredder to lubricate it? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...er-498155-.htm |
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On 3/20/2017 2:14 AM, Norm wrote:
replying to Spaceman, Norm wrote: I watched a vid that changed a sheet of printer paper into tracing paper by using baby oil. I don't know what baby oil is made of, but could you then run that baby oil infused tracing paper through the shredder to lubricate it? I spray the width of a piece of paper with a WD-40 type "maintenance spray" and feed that through from time to time. Mine can get compacted paper jammed around the spindle at either end of the rotating part, especially if you accidentally feed paper through at an angle so that it "folds", but it hasn't jammed since I have been more careful. When it does jam, it has to be partly dismantled to pry the stuff out with a sharp pointy object. I don't find that using oil leads to buildup of debris on the cutters elsewhere, and it certainly makes it sound faster and smoother to lubricate it every so often (perhaps every few hundred sheets). |
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The cutting blades need lubrication. I get actual shredder oil; I only
use it infrequently; so much so that the last bottle suffered from plastic decay before it was empty. I suggest that motor burout or stripped gears could be put down to the lack of lubrication... I did clean out a gummed ups shredder once. They are mostly self cleaning, but if paper goes right to the edge, it can get into the works. On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:19:02 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I would have thought it most likely to gum it all up. the bits that need lubricating asare usually the gears and motor drive, as small bits of paper dust can get into theworks. First though if you can get at the mechanism, clean it then use sewing machine oil type stuff. It has to be non sticky or it will just gum up with the paper dust. To be honest most of the shredders I've had have died due to the motor burning out or the gears, often naff plastic ones losing teeth. Brian -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 3/20/2017 2:14 AM, Norm wrote:
replying to Spaceman, Norm wrote: I watched a vid that changed a sheet of printer paper into tracing paper by using baby oil. I don't know what baby oil is made of, but could you then run that baby oil infused tracing paper through the shredder to lubricate it? You can buy treated paper for lubricating a shredder, the last one I bought came with a sample pack. |
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replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote:
How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...er-498155-.htm |
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On 28/05/17 10:44, Gaby wrote:
replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? Dunno. I suggest you ask google's, facebook's, twitter's lawyers.... BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying Dribbling in from howmeowners hub again. Sight. that site needs pwning by hackers -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD) |
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On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote:
replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? Since you did not quote any of the original message, I have no idea what you talking about. However at a guess, I would suggest you read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_quoting In case you are not aware, you *are* posting to usenet, not a web forum. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote:
replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. The date of the post you're replying to (2008) might also suggest you're new to this. |
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On 28/05/2017 15:01, Fredxxx wrote:
On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote: replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. The date of the post you're replying to (2008) might also suggest you're new to this. Its interesting that HOH posters almost never reply to threads after they have commented - I expect they only get notified of new posts when they are made though the web site, and hence never see the responses from elsewhere. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 29/05/17 00:37, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/05/2017 15:01, Fredxxx wrote: On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote: replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. The date of the post you're replying to (2008) might also suggest you're new to this. Its interesting that HOH posters almost never reply to threads after they have commented - I expect they only get notified of new posts when they are made though the web site, and hence never see the responses from elsewhere. Prezactly why I am as blatantly and obscenely rude as possible. One might expect SOME reaction. There has never been any. Once concludes there is no pint in responding to them except to make a potty mess of their pretty little site. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD) |
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On 29/05/2017 00:37, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/05/2017 15:01, Fredxxx wrote: On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote: replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. The date of the post you're replying to (2008) might also suggest you're new to this. Its interesting that HOH posters almost never reply to threads after they have commented - I expect they only get notified of new posts when they are made though the web site, and hence never see the responses from elsewhere. Are you suggesting Homeowners Hub is spamming the newsgroups? I'm sure they would never stoop to this level! How many genuine posts do we get from this website? Any increase on '0'? |
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On Monday, 29 May 2017 10:18:26 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/05/17 00:37, John Rumm wrote: On 28/05/2017 15:01, Fredxxx wrote: On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote: replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. The date of the post you're replying to (2008) might also suggest you're new to this. Its interesting that HOH posters almost never reply to threads after they have commented - I expect they only get notified of new posts when they are made though the web site, and hence never see the responses from elsewhere. Prezactly why I am as blatantly and obscenely rude as possible. One might expect SOME reaction. There has never been any. Occasionally people do. NT Once concludes there is no pint in responding to them except to make a potty mess of their pretty little site. |
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On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote:
replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying I've never heard of lubricating shredders. How do you do it? Would it work with my Woolies shredder, which is getting rather tired? -- Max Demian |
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Max Demian wrote: On 28/05/2017 10:44, Gaby wrote: replying to Bob Eager, Gaby wrote: How can you own someone else's comments? BS, no, I don't want to copy this thread, just saying I've never heard of lubricating shredders. How do you do it? Would it work with my Woolies shredder, which is getting rather tired? I have bottle of Fellowes "performance oil" which I probably bought on Amazon. It does seem to help after shredding a large batch. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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