Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
..

"Tim.." wrote in message
...
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

Hire a van for the day and get some straps and someone to help.


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

On Jan 16, 3:07*pm, "Tim.." wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

Google "Palletline".
You get a number of hits for companies that handle larger items.

John

"John" wrote in message
...
On Jan 16, 3:07 pm, "Tim.." wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

Google "Palletline".
You get a number of hits for companies that handle larger items.

John

We've been very pleased with DHL.

Mary

On 2008-01-16 15:07:09 +0000, "Tim.." said:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

For any transportation, dimensions as well as weight matter.

Will this fit into a space of 1.2 x 1.2 x 2.0m?

If so, you could use a pallet transport firm. there are loads of
those, with the better known being Palletline.

Another good approach is to find a local warehouse/logistics firm.
They will have pallets and other materials such as clear wrapping
material.


I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Parcelforce isn't a courier, it's a shambles.

You might find that DHL would be willing to handle this. The
weight/size spec. appears to be within their offerings.


Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

That would be the best way, unless it's small enough to be put into a
crate that you could make.

I would take off the castors as well.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

Cic.

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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
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"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

However, IME, City Link won't be able to find the delivery address.

I have used APC for many years

http://www.apc-overnight.com/index.php

Colin Bignell

In article ,
nightjar cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
However, IME, City Link won't be able to find the delivery address.

Or bother ringing the bell to check if anyone is in. Happened to me twice
out of a very few deliveries from them. And phoning to get a re-delivery
is as big a nightmare as possible - it relies on you being able to read
the code number written by the driver. Which I couldn't. So went to pick
it up. They couldn't either. ;-)

Also weird to use. Local branch won't take cash or credit cards from a
'cash' customer. Cheque only.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) says...
Or bother ringing the bell to check if anyone is in.


Unfortunately that is common practice here in France with
the state postal service "La Poste". If I ever get anything
that needs signing for or is too big to fit in the mail box
at the end of our drive, the postman just leaves a card
with a tick against "you were out". Idle sods. Too much
trouble to walk a few yards up the drive and ring the
doorbell. So I have a five mile drive into town to pick the
items up. I tried reporting this laziness but just get the
Gallic shrug and "It's normal". Nobody could care less as
it's state run.
--
David in Normandy

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:03:29 +0000, nightjar wrote:


"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

However, IME, City Link won't be able to find the delivery address.

I have used APC for many years

http://www.apc-overnight.com/index.php

Colin Bignell

==================================
The point I was making is that the weight of the OP's package isn't
excessive, so it's a case of asking any reliable and conveniently located
carrier if they will accept the job. I'm sure that City Link must have
some satisfied customers, although I'm not recommending them - just
offering them as an example which others may emulate or better.
Personally, I've had rather mixed experiences with them but no real
disasters.

Cic.

--
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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:39:20 GMT, Cicero
wrote:


==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

A friend of mine had THREE laptops go missing in transit by ****ty
Link (on three separate occasions).

--
Frank Erskine

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:03:04 +0000, Frank Erskine wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:39:20 GMT, Cicero wrote:


==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

A friend of mine had THREE laptops go missing in transit by ****ty Link
(on three separate occasions).

==================================
Don't blame me - I only mentioned their name as an example of a well-known
courier providing a particular basic service.

Cic.
--
===================================
Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================

In message 478e3a73@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes

You might find that DHL would be willing to handle this. The
weight/size spec. appears to be within their offerings.


Waves Yep, DHL will take it, sit down while you ask the price though.

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

At that weight I would recommend putting it on a pallet, that takes it
out of the normal (mis)handling system and ensures more careful
treatment. (It's difficult to throw a box with a forklift)

That would be the best way, unless it's small enough to be put into a
crate that you could make.

Yes again, remember that you will be charged by the volume according to
the formula: (all in millimetres)

(length x breadth x height) divided by 6,000 gives the 'volumetric
weight'. (In Kg) If this is less than the physical weight then you won't
be charged any extra for putting it in a protective crate.

I would take off the castors as well.

If you don't, DHL probably will, traumatically.


--
Keith

Tim.. wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

Tim,

After reading the replies to your post, I must simply ask the question - why
not find a courier near to you (or more than one) out of the Yellow Pages
directory and ask them?

They can then tell you what they will do, how they will do it, when they
will do it and the cost - along with anything that you have to do or supply.

DSBP

"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.


I rang the national City link number and they told me they only handly
objects up to 30kg.

Bu11sh1t ??

tim..

On 2008-01-16 20:03:04 +0000, "Tim.." said:


"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.


I rang the national City link number and they told me they only handly
objects up to 30kg.

Bu11sh1t ??

tim..

Doesn't really matter. This is not a good firm to deal with anyway.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:03:04 +0000, Tim.. wrote:


"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.


I rang the national City link number and they told me they only handly
objects up to 30kg.

Bu11sh1t ??

tim..


==================================
Maybe so - look under 'Packaging' / 'Parcel size & weight'. That appears
to permit weights up to 99 kilos.

Cic.
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===================================
Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================

In message , Tim..
writes
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

It's more a question of what the couriers think, isn't it

why not ask the people who know ?

My feeling is that it will need to be on a pallet

.... not cheap


--
geoff

In message , Bob Mannix
writes

"Tim.." wrote in message
...
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

Hire a van for the day and get some straps and someone to help.


What 250 miles+ each way and van hire (+ personal time)

not an efficient solution


--
geoff

In message , Cicero
writes
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:03:29 +0000, nightjar wrote:


"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

However, IME, City Link won't be able to find the delivery address.

I have used APC for many years

http://www.apc-overnight.com/index.php

Colin Bignell

==================================
The point I was making is that the weight of the OP's package isn't
excessive, so it's a case of asking any reliable and conveniently located
carrier if they will accept the job. I'm sure that City Link must have
some satisfied customers, although I'm not recommending them - just
offering them as an example which others may emulate or better.
Personally, I've had rather mixed experiences with them but no real
disasters.

Well, I use them

In fact, I use them quite a lot , I find them quite good on the whole,
except when they get it wrong, they get it well wrong


--
geoff

In message , Tim..
writes
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

It depends who you ring. Most couriers deal with parcels (one man
handleable packages) but not much else. Most hauliers nowadays have got
themselves into one of the pallet networks (palletline etc). Pallet
Network type companies will really only deal with something that is on a
stackable pallet - anything else, they either charge the earth or make
sure it is dropped so you won't call again.

There are still hauliers who have stayed independent, and take care of
your goods.

I've had local firms pick up glass cabinets for me in the past. Because
it is usually the same driver who collects, as who delivers, on the same
lorry, they seem to take more care. On the pallet networks it could be
trans-shipped numerous times with no individual taking absolute
responsibility.

Look through your yellow pages, ring the hauliers and ask them directly
- "are you a member of a pallet network". Discount all those that say
yes, then ask of the others a price. Be honest on size / weight /
description and they'll give you an honest price for the work.

Ask them to quote on a 'could go' rather than a 'must go' basis and the
price should be okay. Expect about 30 - 40 pounds for a pallet *space*
across 100 miles or so.

Hth
Someone

"David in Normandy" wrote in message
...
Dave Plowman (News) says...
Or bother ringing the bell to check if anyone is in.


Unfortunately that is common practice here in France with
the state postal service "La Poste". If I ever get anything
that needs signing for or is too big to fit in the mail box
at the end of our drive, the postman just leaves a card
with a tick against "you were out". Idle sods. Too much
trouble to walk a few yards up the drive and ring the
doorbell. So I have a five mile drive into town to pick the
items up. I tried reporting this laziness but just get the
Gallic shrug and "It's normal". Nobody could care less as
it's state run.

I was under the impression that the onus is on the householder to allow them
to deliver without entering private property, hence the post box at the
roadside. I have an intercom by the front gate, next to the post box, and
they will use that.

Colin Bignell

"Keith" wrote in message
...
In message 478e3a73@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes

You might find that DHL would be willing to handle this. The weight/size
spec. appears to be within their offerings.


Waves Yep, DHL will take it, sit down while you ask the price though.

If you do all the paperwork on-line it's much cheaper than by phone and
you're in control

We use DHL exclusively and have been very impressed by the courtesy of the
collector (always the same man), the speed of delivery and the care of our
sometimes fragile parcels.

Mary

geoff wrote:
In message , Tim..
writes
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

It's more a question of what the couriers think, isn't it

why not ask the people who know ?

My feeling is that it will need to be on a pallet

... not cheap



I don't think the H&S regs allow one man to lift 60 kgs, which kind of
rules out couriers I would have thought.

Tim.. wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

No. There is a 35kg limit.

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??


Frankly, its almost worth hiring a van and doing it yourself.


Guessing at around 200 miles, the opportunity cost of using your own
vehicle, discounting time, is around £80.

With hire included, maybe £150-£180.

Getting it all palettised and trucked may cost more.

TIA Tim.
.

geoff wrote:
In message , Bob Mannix
writes

"Tim.." wrote in message
...
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

Hire a van for the day and get some straps and someone to help.


What 250 miles+ each way and van hire (+ personal time)

not an efficient solution


Depends on how much your time is worth.

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Keith" wrote in message
...
In message 478e3a73@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes
You might find that DHL would be willing to handle this. The weight/size
spec. appears to be within their offerings.

Waves Yep, DHL will take it, sit down while you ask the price though.

If you do all the paperwork on-line it's much cheaper than by phone and
you're in control

We use DHL exclusively and have been very impressed by the courtesy of the
collector (always the same man), the speed of delivery and the care of our
sometimes fragile parcels.

Mary


NO courier will take a 35khg weight. I know, I tried.

Costs rocket. It cannot go through the standard hubs.

Stuart Noble wrote:
geoff wrote:
In message , Tim..
writes
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

It's more a question of what the couriers think, isn't it

why not ask the people who know ?

My feeling is that it will need to be on a pallet

... not cheap



I don't think the H&S regs allow one man to lift 60 kgs, which kind of
rules out couriers I would have thought.

35kg is the limit.


The hubs that most couriers use..they all sub to each other - will only
do that.

More than 35kg means a door to door truck with a lifting mechanism. =
MUCH more expensive.

On Jan 16, 7:17*pm, "DSBP" wrote:
Tim.. wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

Tim,

After reading the replies to your post, I must simply ask the question - why
not find a courier near to you (or more than one) out of the Yellow Pages
directory and ask them?

I blame the educashun system.


They can then tell you what they will do, how they will do it, when they
will do it and the cost - along with anything that you have to do or supply.


But why get off your arse and do something yourself when you can start
a debate on Usenet?

MBQ

In message , Mary Fisher
writes


We use DHL exclusively and have been very impressed by the courtesy of the
collector (always the same man), the speed of delivery and the care of our
sometimes fragile parcels.

Mary


Could I be so bold as to ask the first half of your postcode, please. I
spend a large chunk of my week dealing with negative feedback, it's nice
to hear of a happy customer for a change.
--
Keith

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Tim..
writes
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with
that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

It's more a question of what the couriers think, isn't it

why not ask the people who know ?

My feeling is that it will need to be on a pallet

... not cheap


--
geoff

I received a Palletline delivery today. (An ebay purchase of a tractor
rollover protection cage). Seller had put it on a pallet but it was
delivered without a pallet. I wasn't in when it arrived so maybe the
local driver heaved it off as it was easier that way. I have arranged
perhaps 6 or so such collections / deliveries for chunky items,
including a 1 ton blacksmiths power hammer and several JCB buckets,
and they have all gone faultlessly - an excellent service.

AWEM

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Tim.. wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be
fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with
that?

No. There is a 35kg limit.

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??


Frankly, its almost worth hiring a van and doing it yourself.


Guessing at around 200 miles, the opportunity cost of using your own
vehicle, discounting time, is around £80.

With hire included, maybe £150-£180.

Getting it all palettised and trucked may cost more.

TIA Tim.
.



Palletline 3-4 day service £40 plus VAT. for my delivery today
Midlands to Sussex coast. It would cost me more than that in diesel
!!!!!!

AWEM

In article , says...
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.


I may be visiting Kent in a bit. I can get it as far as Telford if it'll
fit in Xantia estate.

--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Tim..
writes
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched
back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with
that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

It's more a question of what the couriers think, isn't it

why not ask the people who know ?

My feeling is that it will need to be on a pallet

... not cheap


--
geoff

I received a Palletline delivery today. (An ebay purchase of a tractor
rollover protection cage). Seller had put it on a pallet but it was
delivered without a pallet. I wasn't in when it arrived so maybe the
local driver heaved it off as it was easier that way. I have arranged
perhaps 6 or so such collections / deliveries for chunky items,
including a 1 ton blacksmiths power hammer and several JCB buckets,
and they have all gone faultlessly - an excellent service.

Did the seller palletise the object or did you instruct Palletline to take
one with them and palletise it when they went for collection???

Tim..

In message , nightjar
writes

"Cicero" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:09 +0000, Tim.. wrote:

Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with that?

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??

TIA Tim.
.

==================================
60kg isn't particularly heavy for most carriers. City Link (e.g.):

http://www.city-link.co.uk/

allow weights up to 99 kilos before applying a surcharge.

However, IME, City Link won't be able to find the delivery address.

I have used APC for many years

http://www.apc-overnight.com/index.php

I rang them today,

not bad prices

--
geoff

In message , Andrew Mawson
writes

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Tim.. wrote:
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be
fetched back to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.

I dont think a regular courier (eg parcelforce) would cope with
that?

No. There is a 35kg limit.

Does it need to be palletised or what does the team think??


Frankly, its almost worth hiring a van and doing it yourself.


Guessing at around 200 miles, the opportunity cost of using your own
vehicle, discounting time, is around £80.

With hire included, maybe £150-£180.

Getting it all palettised and trucked may cost more.

TIA Tim.
.



Palletline 3-4 day service £40 plus VAT. for my delivery today
Midlands to Sussex coast. It would cost me more than that in diesel
!!!!!!


What did I say a few posts back?

?
--
geoff

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:

NO courier will take a 35khg weight. I know, I tried.

Costs rocket. It cannot go through the standard hubs.

I just had an 85kg computer delivered. Had to be a special
courier direct door-to-door run. They arrived 5 minutes
after Goods-In had shut up and locked away the pallet
trollies, so the two guys in the van had to carry the
thing in to the right place (or take it away and
redeliver tomorrow, which they decided not to do).

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

"Skipweasel" wrote in message
.uk...
In article , says...
Hi, I have a 60kg item located in Kent which requires to be fetched back
to
my home in Shropshire. Its on castors.


I may be visiting Kent in a bit. I can get it as far as Telford if it'll
fit in Xantia estate.

Thanks for the offer- i *may* have sorted it, otherwise i'll post again. Yes
it would fit in a Xantia estate on its side- would require a 2 man lift
though!

Tim..

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:14:59 -0000, "Tim.."
wrote:

Thanks for the offer- i *may* have sorted it, otherwise i'll post again. Yes
it would fit in a Xantia estate on its side

Then the Xantia might have a bit of trouble moving.

--
Frank Erskine

"Keith" wrote in message
...
In message , Mary Fisher
writes


We use DHL exclusively and have been very impressed by the courtesy of the
collector (always the same man), the speed of delivery and the care of our
sometimes fragile parcels.

Mary


Could I be so bold as to ask the first half of your postcode, please. I
spend a large chunk of my week dealing with negative feedback, it's nice
to hear of a happy customer for a change.

LS7

Mary
--
Keith