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On Feb 22, 12:23 pm, "
wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece You'd think the Times would bother to get the units right. "kw" is not only spelled wrong (it should be "kW") but it is not the irght unit anyway. I guess they meant kiloWatt hours. grumpy, Cambridge |
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"Robert Laws" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 22, 12:23 pm, " wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece You'd think the Times would bother to get the units right. "kw" is not only spelled wrong (it should be "kW") but it is not the irght unit anyway. I guess they meant kiloWatt hours. grumpy, Cambridge "but it is not the irght unit" What does 'irght' mean? |
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On 2007-02-22 12:23:47 +0000, "
said: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece I love it. Onanism par excellence. I think I'll drop a note to the Times exposing solar panel ROI while they're at it. |
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wrote in message oups.com... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece He spent £13000 for a windturbine that only give 9 pence worth of leccy a week???? surely the B&Q ones do better than that? |
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:23:30 +0000, Dwayne & Angela wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece He spent £13000 for a windturbine that only give 9 pence worth of leccy a week???? surely the B&Q ones do better than that? What amazes me is not those figures but the victim was (claims to be) an Engineer. It would be a lamentable but plausible fact if a general member of the public was conned (by the marketing, innumerate prose, band wagons etc.). It says a lot uncomplimentary things about the victim that was sold this toy who could not evaluate the suitablility of equipment costing £13k. To those who say "the device will pay for it's energy of manufacture and installation", I have no disagreement in principle. It's just what damage the £10k+ profit shared out along the way will do the environment, how many foreign holidays, 4X4s, garden jacussis and patio heaters will that pay for? -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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On 2007-02-22 17:23:30 +0000, "Dwayne & Angela"
said: wrote in message oups.com... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece He spent £13000 for a windturbine that only give 9 pence worth of leccy a week???? surely the B&Q ones do better than that? You would think, wouldn't you? Have you ever read about the king's suit of clothes? |
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On 2007-02-22 19:24:38 +0000, Ed Sirett said:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:23:30 +0000, Dwayne & Angela wrote: wrote in message oups.com... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece He spent £13000 for a windturbine that only give 9 pence worth of leccy a week???? surely the B&Q ones do better than that? What amazes me is not those figures but the victim was (claims to be) an Engineer. It would be a lamentable but plausible fact if a general member of the public was conned (by the marketing, innumerate prose, band wagons etc.). It says a lot uncomplimentary things about the victim that was sold this toy who could not evaluate the suitablility of equipment costing £13k. Ah.. but if you believe in it so much and really want it to work then failure is not on the list of options... until reality sets in of course. To those who say "the device will pay for it's energy of manufacture and installation", I have no disagreement in principle. It's just what damage the £10k+ profit shared out along the way will do the environment, how many foreign holidays, 4X4s, garden jacussis and patio heaters will that pay for? Quite a few. Such is the cynicism of the purveyors of these goods. |
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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-02-22 19:24:38 +0000, Ed Sirett said: On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:23:30 +0000, Dwayne & Angela wrote: wrote in message oups.com... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1398220.ece He spent £13000 for a windturbine that only give 9 pence worth of leccy a week???? surely the B&Q ones do better than that? What amazes me is not those figures but the victim was (claims to be) an Engineer. It would be a lamentable but plausible fact if a general member of the public was conned (by the marketing, innumerate prose, band wagons etc.). It says a lot uncomplimentary things about the victim that was sold this toy who could not evaluate the suitablility of equipment costing £13k. Ah.. but if you believe in it so much and really want it to work then failure is not on the list of options... until reality sets in of course. An attitude which might equip someone for many possible careers, but engineering isn't one of them. Politics would seem to beckon... |
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Grow Your Own Energy, a UK consumer advisory service on domestic
renewable energy agrees with the main premise that urban small wind is a niche market. The vast majority of urban sites, especially for building mounted turbines are likely to be unsuitable. We'd encourage those considering a wind turbine to visit our web site and use the Technology Choice Questionnaire to see if the technology would be viable for your home. www.growyourownenergy.co.uk or give us a call on 0845 257 9 257 |
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On 22 Feb, 19:24, Ed Sirett wrote:
What amazes me is not those figures but the victim was (claims to be) an Engineer. He's not just "an engineer", he's an engineer who lives in Woolwich and is called John Large. Can you guess who it is yet? Not to suggest that any particular John Large might have a certain _agenda_ behind energy issues! |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:05:25 -0800, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 22 Feb, 19:24, Ed Sirett wrote: What amazes me is not those figures but the victim was (claims to be) an Engineer. He's not just "an engineer", he's an engineer who lives in Woolwich and is called John Large. Can you guess who it is yet? Not to suggest that any particular John Large might have a certain _agenda_ behind energy issues! Sorry I'm not up to speed on the identities of John Large and his agendas hidden or otherwise. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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On 23 Feb, 17:55, Ed Sirett wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:05:25 -0800, Andy Dingley wrote: On 22 Feb, 19:24, Ed Sirett wrote: What amazes me is not those figures but the victim was (claims to be) an Engineer. He's not just "an engineer", he's an engineer who lives in Woolwich and is called John Large. Can you guess who it is yet? Not to suggest that any particular John Large might have a certain _agenda_ behind energy issues! Sorry I'm not up to speed on the identities of John Large and his agendas hidden or otherwise. Guess its the same John large often cited as an independent nuclear consultant. Adam -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is athttp://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQhttp://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQhttp://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs hehttp://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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Your Own Energy writes Grow Your Own Energy, a UK consumer advisory service on domestic renewable energy agrees with the main premise that urban small wind is a niche market. Yeah, but where does it stand on fully blown fart gas ? Does your site have figures for the calorific value? Do you ever stop plugging it ? -- geoff |
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Ed Sirett wrote:
Sorry I'm not up to speed on the identities of John Large and his agendas hidden or otherwise. First two hits on Google: http://www.expertsearch.co.uk/cgi-bin/find_expert?2800 http://www.largeassociates.com/ Interesting... -- Andy |
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