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OT wheelie bin pollution rant
In message , Dave
writes Is it just me that find wheelie bins noise-polluters? Hard rubber wheels. and lids that crash down (usually because people either slam them closed or leave them go from a height). [snip] Wow, if only. Round here, the bin men won't collect anything that looks anything other than a perfect black bag of rubbish. "Cor, that one is leaning over guv'nor, looks like it could be heavy". I jest, they don't actually say anything, they just leave it. For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). During recycling collections "all cardboard/paper" must be packed flat. So if you have a cardboard box which seems suitable for containing all the other cardboard you put in it, expect to keep the box. BTW this is the same council that is currently considering whether to go to bi-monthly collections (yes, that's once a fortnight) or as an alternative to charge the householder per bag collected. Oh, and yes, our council tax has gone up about 1432% this year (I may exaggerate a little but it did go up quite a lot). Oh, and yes, this is one of the few councils who won't accept domestic asbestos at their own tip. Round here you have to pay 440+vat per ton (oh yes, plus a f***ing huge admin fee to the council) to get rid of your old garage/shed/potting shed whatever. Bitter, me - no way. I'm actually f***ing fuming. Oh the joy to have rubbish just collected - with or without the noise. (Incidentally, SWMBO and I manage to almost fill one black bag a week, we're not exactly polluters). Someone |
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"somebody" wrote in message ... Round here, the bin men won't collect anything that looks anything other than a perfect black bag of rubbish. "Cor, that one is leaning over guv'nor, looks like it could be heavy". I jest, they don't actually say anything, they just leave it. For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). You're throwing out charcoal? I'd have taken it off your hands! During recycling collections "all cardboard/paper" must be packed flat. So if you have a cardboard box which seems suitable for containing all the other cardboard you put in it, expect to keep the box. Ours doesn't. BTW this is the same council that is currently considering whether to go to bi-monthly collections (yes, that's once a fortnight) or as an alternative to charge the householder per bag collected. Our recycling bin is collected monthly, it works. Oh, and yes, this is one of the few councils who won't accept domestic asbestos at their own tip. Round here you have to pay 440+vat per ton (oh yes, plus a f***ing huge admin fee to the council) to get rid of your old garage/shed/potting shed whatever. Ours won't accept it either, it has to be taken to a special asbestos point in another (local) city. There's only a charge if they have to do the transport. I think that's fair. Oh the joy to have rubbish just collected - with or without the noise. Vote 'em out. Mary |
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from somebody contains these words: During recycling collections "all cardboard/paper" must be packed flat. So if you have a cardboard box which seems suitable for containing all the other cardboard you put in it, expect to keep the box. Ours are obviously a lot friendlier. Our recycling box got nicked some months ago[1] and since then I've put it all out in a cardboard box. Everything sorted into bags, all cardboard exepct the box CKD and they're quite happy to take it. Bloke said he actually prefers it as he doesn't have to walk back with the empty box. [1] Little scrote locally stole a dozen of 'em to make a ramp for his bicycle. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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"Guy King" wrote in message ... The message from somebody contains these words: During recycling collections "all cardboard/paper" must be packed flat. So if you have a cardboard box which seems suitable for containing all the other cardboard you put in it, expect to keep the box. Ours are obviously a lot friendlier. Our recycling box got nicked some months ago[1] and since then I've put it all out in a cardboard box. Everything sorted into bags, all cardboard exepct the box CKD and they're quite happy to take it. Bloke said he actually prefers it as he doesn't have to walk back with the empty box. [1] Little scrote locally stole a dozen of 'em to make a ramp for his bicycle. That shows enterprise! But if you know who took it why not take it back? :-) I don't understand the 'recycling box' part of your post, Guy. Don't you have a wheelie bin for recyclable stuff? We have a brown (landfill) bin and a green (metal, plastic, paper/cardboard) one. Glass can't be put in either, we put bottles and broken glasses (too many these days!) in a crate and Spouse fills his panniers and top box to take to the bottle bank when he goes to the post office or bank. Garden waste is composted or shredded, table scraps (on the rare occasions there are any) are recycled as eggs. We have no boxes for anything Mary |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: [1] Little scrote locally stole a dozen of 'em to make a ramp for his bicycle. That shows enterprise! But if you know who took it why not take it back? Because I only round who'd nicked it some time after the event, by which time not only had all the boxes departed but so had the family responsible. I could get a new box by ringing the council, but since we sort into stacking bins under the meter cupboard and the council's recycling boxen don't fit in the hole it'd be a silly thing to do. We have a grey bin for non-recyclable stuff and a red box for recycling. There's also a green bin for garden waste but I've only used it once and that was last autumn when the leaves were drifing across the public path so deeply that pushchairs couldn't pass. There were too many for my compost heap. One of these days I might ask 'em to take it away. Everything goes in the red box - glass, paper, card, tins, foil, clothes. Too small, of course, but at least they don't get upset and refuse to take overspill as long as it's neat and sorted. What they don't yet take is plastic - milk bottles and pop bottles etc. pile up till I happen to be going past the dump. Recycling chap reckons the investment in equipment to collect it all from the doorstep wouldn't be worth it - from which I deduce that a) Scrap plastic has a low value and b) it's lightweight, so doesn't contribute much to their recycling targets which are set by weight. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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"Guy King" wrote in message ... The message from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: [1] Little scrote locally stole a dozen of 'em to make a ramp for his bicycle. That shows enterprise! But if you know who took it why not take it back? Because I only round who'd nicked it some time after the event, by which time not only had all the boxes departed but so had the family responsible. Right ... so he did you a favour :-) I could get a new box by ringing the council, but since we sort into stacking bins under the meter cupboard and the council's recycling boxen don't fit in the hole it'd be a silly thing to do. .... Everything goes in the red box - glass, paper, card, tins, foil, clothes. Too small, of course, but at least they don't get upset and refuse to take overspill as long as it's neat and sorted. We can't put glass anywhere and not foil either, they have no means of sorting it. What they don't yet take is plastic - milk bottles and pop bottles etc. That's a shame. I pick up pop bottles in the street and put them in our bin, we don't use them. Same with cans. pile up till I happen to be going past the dump. Recycling chap reckons the investment in equipment to collect it all from the doorstep wouldn't be worth it - from which I deduce that a) Scrap plastic has a low value and b) it's lightweight, so doesn't contribute much to their recycling targets which are set by weight. I reckon that different companies have different methods and even targets. Our recyclable stuff is sorted (used to be by hand, might still be) at a cetnral point, foil is too small to pick up in thick gloves. We don't have much but it irks to put it in landfill. Clothes aren't allowed in our green bin any more, the local tip has a special place for them - so has Waitrose's car park come to think of it. Not that we ever have any to discard, we wear them until they fall off, after many repairs. There are also bins for shoes, pc parts, ink cartridges, paint tins, oh, all kinds of things. It's a fascinating subject, rubbish! Mary |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: I reckon that different companies have different methods and even targets. Our recyclable stuff is sorted (used to be by hand, might still be) at a cetnral point, foil is too small to pick up in thick gloves. We don't have much but it irks to put it in landfill. http://www.skipweasel.pwp.blueyonder...es/recycle.gif This is what our kerbside collection allows/refuses. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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In message , Mary Fisher
writes "Guy King" wrote in message ... The message from somebody contains these words: During recycling collections "all cardboard/paper" must be packed flat. So if you have a cardboard box which seems suitable for containing all the other cardboard you put in it, expect to keep the box. Ours are obviously a lot friendlier. Our recycling box got nicked some months ago[1] and since then I've put it all out in a cardboard box. Everything sorted into bags, all cardboard exepct the box CKD and they're quite happy to take it. Bloke said he actually prefers it as he doesn't have to walk back with the empty box. [1] Little scrote locally stole a dozen of 'em to make a ramp for his bicycle. That shows enterprise! But if you know who took it why not take it back? :-) I don't understand the 'recycling box' part of your post, Guy. Don't you have a wheelie bin for recyclable stuff? Some places have box for recyclables rather than a bin. Round here wheelie bins for recycleables only came in a little while before we moved here. Before that people used a blue plastic box - and lots of people still do in preference to the bin, esp. if they have limited storage space for bins I think.. ISTR some areas of Leeds still had plastic box (green?) for similar use. I think it might have been those in the old SWAP (Save Waste and Prosper) scheme, which predated the more general recycling bins ISTR. -- Chris French |
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"chris French" wrote in message ... ISTR some areas of Leeds still had plastic box (green?) for similar use. I've never seen any - but certain parts of Leeds were experiemental areas so they might have had. I think it might have been those in the old SWAP (Save Waste and Prosper) scheme, which predated the more general recycling bins ISTR. It did, it was brought in years ago when Christine Thomas was Lord Mayor. It was the foundation of recycling in Leeds but was voluntary. Mary |
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On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody
wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? |
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"Jim Hatfield" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? How do you get the charcoal in the first place if you haven't a car? Mary |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Jim Hatfield" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? How do you get the charcoal in the first place if you haven't a car? It can be purchased in many places. There is a garage about ten minutes walk away that stocks it from Easter till late summer. The local tip is over 4 miles away and I live in a densely populated area. Dave |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "Jim Hatfield" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? How do you get the charcoal in the first place if you haven't a car? It can be purchased in many places. There is a garage about ten minutes walk away that stocks it from Easter till late summer. So just dry it out, as I suggested earlier. The local tip is over 4 miles away and I live in a densely populated area. Y - e - s :-) Dave |
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In message , Jim Hatfield
writes On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? I have absolutely no idea! Ask one of your BBQ guests to take it with them when they leave :-) Someone |
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"somebody" wrote in message ... In message , Jim Hatfield writes On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? I have absolutely no idea! Ask one of your BBQ guests to take it with them when they leave :-) Someone How come the charcoal is soggy? Do you have to get rid of it in one go? I have got rid of: Washing Machine Tumble Dryer Car Tailgate in a wheelie bin - it just takes time and a bit of effort. Have you noticed that some people seem incapable of even crushing a cardboard box before putting it in the bin? |
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writes "somebody" wrote in message ... In message , Jim Hatfield writes On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? I have absolutely no idea! Ask one of your BBQ guests to take it with them when they leave :-) Someone How come the charcoal is soggy? Because from a safety point of view, a bucket or two of water over the barbeque is a lot safer than leaving it to smoulder / burn out unattended overnight. Someone |
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"somebody" wrote in message ... How come the charcoal is soggy? Because from a safety point of view, a bucket or two of water over the barbeque is a lot safer than leaving it to smoulder / burn out unattended overnight. Oh come ON! |
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In message , Jim Hatfield
writes On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:40:52 GMT, somebody wrote: For example, a quarter bag of charcoal out of the bbq, "well that's commercial/industrial". They just leave it, causing me a trip to the tip (12 mile round trip for one bloody quarter bag of soggy charcoal). So what happens if you don't have a car? A bicycle. -- Chris French |
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