The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a 6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence, they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks


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"Grumpy owd man" wrote:
The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a 6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence, they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks


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Worth asking this on uk.legal or uk.legal. moderated.

"Grumpy owd man" wrote in
news:b26ffc40ef7471d546ff6c204fd8c3e7.115311@mygat e.mailgate.org:

The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a
6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that
when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence,
they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks



I would highly recommend you going to www.gardenlaw.co.uk -

This subject comes up quite frequently in the Forums and you will receive
the very expert attentions of the lawyers there.

(There are, of course, very expert lawyers here too, but there seems to
be a lot of specialist building lawyers and surveyors there.)

Terry W.

The message ilgate.org
from "Grumpy owd man" contains these words:

Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Planning permission isn't always necessary. However, the rule I had to
obey[1] to get PP for the conservatory I'm (allegedly) building was that
from the centre of their window a line out at 45° must not intersect
with my construction.
I deliberately didn't put windows in the side because I didn't want to
overlook the neighbour's patios.

You could of course put up a fence that stops 'em opening their windows
- but it's better to solve these problems amicably. Which is why I
talked to the neighbours before even applying for permission so I didn't
upset them.

[1] Had to cut a corner out to comply. Stupid thing is that John next
door said he didn't care because all he'd have seen would be a little
bit sticking up over the fence. Damned silly.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

"Grumpy owd man" wrote in message
news:b26ffc40ef7471d546ff6c204fd8c3e7.115311@mygat e.mailgate.org...
The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a 6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence, they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks


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Conservatories under 25m2 do not need planning permission but they do need a
building warrant
and cannot be built within a certain distance of a boundary without having a
firewall.
I can't remember what the distance is but it is around one or two metres.
Plans have to be submitted before building can start but neighbours do not
need to be notified.

In message
ilgate.org, Grumpy
owd man writes
The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a 6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence, they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks


http://www.odpm.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1131403

or any other result that google throws out of "party wall act"

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geoff

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:02:56 +0100, "Gordon Hudson"
wrote:

"Grumpy owd man" wrote in message
news:b26ffc40ef7471d546ff6c204fd8c3e7.115311@myga te.mailgate.org...
The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a 6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence, they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks


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Conservatories under 25m2 do not need planning permission

In England there are several other contraints also.

but they do need a building warrant

Wot's a building warrant?

and cannot be built within a certain distance of a boundary without having a
firewall.

Wot's a firewall ?

One I know is a tall long wall with ducts through it carrying smoke
and hot air heated by a fire so that tender plants can be grown
against it in early spring/winter ?? Is that it? The other type is
bought from Netgear, Cisco etc.

;-)

I can't remember what the distance is but it is around one or two metres.
Plans have to be submitted before building can start but neighbours do not
need to be notified.

DG

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 22:24:17 +0100, a particular chimpanzee named
Derek ^ randomly hit the keyboard and
produced:

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:02:56 +0100, "Gordon Hudson"
wrote:

and cannot be built within a certain distance of a boundary without having a
firewall.

Wot's a firewall ?

It's an American expression for a Compartment (or Party) wall, which
was adopted by the computer industry. In the context of the above
post, it would be a wall having the same period of fire resistance as
that required for a party wall, ie, 60 minutes. I don't know the
Scottish regulations, but I suspect there will be a limit on the
maximum unprotected area within 1m of the boundary (of usually no more
than 1m²).
--
Hugo Nebula
"If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this,
just how far from the pack have you strayed?"

Grumpy owd man wrote:
The new neighbours have just had a Conservatory fitted. I say
conservatory but it is more of a 'lean-to'.
House is a standard 1920's semi, with the rear gardens split by a 6'high
wooden fence. They have built so close to the fence [4 " !!!] that when
they open their windows, which are level with the top of the fence, they
open over into my garden. Apart from looking a mess the sound seems to
be funneled into our garden. Additionally the lean-to has a single
pitched roof, so when we go into our garden we see a large triangle of
white plastic cladding and the 2 side windows opening onto our garden.
I have just fitted some 'dome topped trellis panels' to the top of the
fence panels [I even fitted them to my side and not along the centre
line]. These serve 2 purposes, it stops the window opening too far and
also means I can grow some Ivy to hid the plastic.
Now to my questions...
Should they have had planning permission to build so close?
Is it a job for the Council or BCO or do I have to live with it?

Not sure about what to do as I do not know the situation with Regs /
Planning for Conservatories, but I want to get my facts right before I
'Kick-off'

Many thanks


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How do you know that the conservatory was built within 4 inches of the
boundary fence.

Kevin

How do you know that the conservatory was built within 4 inches of the
boundary fence.

Kevin

Been away on business for a week so that is why this reply is so late!

I know it is 4" coz I measured it!!! and THAT is why his windows open
over my garden! [well not any more since i extended the fence tops]




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I know it is 4" coz I measured it!!! and THAT is why his windows open
over my garden! [well not any more since i extended the fence tops]

You realise that this is the ideal spot for extra smelly compost
(including human waste - I believe urine over the top of the compost was
an old gardeners favourite to encourage decomposition) - or if you can
think of any flowers that are particularly pungent, or attract insects
like there`s no tomorrow :-)

You realise that this is the ideal spot for extra smelly compost
(including human waste - I believe urine over the top of the compost was
an old gardeners favourite to encourage decomposition) - or if you can
think of any flowers that are particularly pungent, or attract insects
like there`s no tomorrow :-)


Believe me, I would do that , no problem. Would even go to the abattoir
and get some fresh Bulls blood.
Unfortunately the 'structure' [I call it a structure as it is not in my
opinion a Conservatory more of a poorly built 'Plastic Lean-to'] it is
next to our
Daughters bedroom and I would rather put
up with the neighbours than 'cross' my daughter!!!
The fence top alteration seems to be working a treat...... ,



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