Went to a job and needed to plug drill in [pre cordless days]. The
owner told me there was a spare way on a 4 gang extension lead in the
kitchen [alarm bells on standby]. True enough, 1 spare way, indicator
light on and washing machine chunnering away. NO LEAD CONNECTING 4 GANG
TO ANY WALL SOCKET!!! ALARM BELLS RING F.LOUDLY. I traced each wire
back to its respective appliance...guess what? The little tinker had
made up a flex with a plug top at each end and plugged one into a wall
socket and the other INTO the 4 gang...NICE!!

Told me that this was what he always did as he did not want to
invalidate any warranty by opening the 4 gang!!!!!!!! TO55ER! He
nearly invalidated me!

Thought I'd share that with you.

Oh! I cut the lead into 2" pieces in front of him and smashed the plug
tops with a big hammer, and sent an invoice for my wasted time.

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?


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on 24/10/2005, Clive Dive supposed :
The little tinker had
made up a flex with a plug top at each end and plugged one into a wall
socket and the other INTO the 4 gang...NICE!!

The plug at each end trick is a regular '....why can't I' when it comes
to powering a house load from a small generator during mains supply
power cuts.

--

Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Clive Dive wrote:
Went to a job and needed to plug drill in [pre cordless days]. The
owner told me there was a spare way on a 4 gang extension lead in the
kitchen [alarm bells on standby]. True enough, 1 spare way, indicator
light on and washing machine chunnering away. NO LEAD CONNECTING 4
GANG TO ANY WALL SOCKET!!! ALARM BELLS RING F.LOUDLY. I traced each
wire back to its respective appliance...guess what? The little
tinker had made up a flex with a plug top at each end and plugged one
into a wall socket and the other INTO the 4 gang...NICE!!

Told me that this was what he always did as he did not want to
invalidate any warranty by opening the 4 gang!!!!!!!! TO55ER! He
nearly invalidated me!

Thought I'd share that with you.

Oh! I cut the lead into 2" pieces in front of him and smashed the
plug tops with a big hammer, and sent an invoice for my wasted time.

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

What the hell is a plug top and spare way on a 4 gang extension lead?
--

Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Clive Dive wrote:
Went to a job and needed to plug drill in [pre cordless days]. The
owner told me there was a spare way on a 4 gang extension lead in the
kitchen [alarm bells on standby]. True enough, 1 spare way, indicator
light on and washing machine chunnering away. NO LEAD CONNECTING 4
GANG TO ANY WALL SOCKET!!! ALARM BELLS RING F.LOUDLY. I traced each
wire back to its respective appliance...guess what? The little
tinker had made up a flex with a plug top at each end and plugged one
into a wall socket and the other INTO the 4 gang...NICE!!

Told me that this was what he always did as he did not want to
invalidate any warranty by opening the 4 gang!!!!!!!! TO55ER! He
nearly invalidated me!

Thought I'd share that with you.

Oh! I cut the lead into 2" pieces in front of him and smashed the
plug tops with a big hammer, and sent an invoice for my wasted time.

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

Oh, by the way are you not a tosser for not having your own extension
leads?
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:00:59 GMT, dave wrote:

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

What the hell is a plug top and spare way on a 4 gang extension lead?

afaik a "plug top" is the correct term for what is commonly known as "a plug"
(usually a (2/5/13A fused plug). 4 gang extension lead is simply an extension
lead with 4 x (13A) socket outlets on the end! (y/n)?

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

I have never heard anyone use the term "spare way", though I have to
admit it's quite common to say "4 way extenstion lead". "Spare socket"
is what "normal" people say... :-)))

Mr F.

"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:00:59 GMT, dave wrote:

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

What the hell is a plug top and spare way on a 4 gang extension lead?

afaik a "plug top" is the correct term for what is commonly known as "a
plug"
(usually a (2/5/13A fused plug). 4 gang extension lead is simply an
extension
lead with 4 x (13A) socket outlets on the end! (y/n)?

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

I have never heard anyone use the term "spare way", though I have to
admit it's quite common to say "4 way extenstion lead". "Spare socket"
is what "normal" people say... :-)))


The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who see
themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering who fly
in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up). They will now
emerge from the woodwork again (no doubt ) ). "Spare way", on the other
hand, is quite common as a term, if not as common, in these circumstances,
as "spare socket".


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

"Bob Mannix" wrote in message
...

"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:00:59 GMT, dave wrote:

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is
shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is
more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are
correct?

What the hell is a plug top and spare way on a 4 gang extension
lead?

afaik a "plug top" is the correct term for what is commonly known as
"a plug"
(usually a (2/5/13A fused plug). 4 gang extension lead is simply an
extension
lead with 4 x (13A) socket outlets on the end! (y/n)?

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

I have never heard anyone use the term "spare way", though I have to
admit it's quite common to say "4 way extenstion lead". "Spare
socket"
is what "normal" people say... :-)))


The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who
see themselves as the last defenders of standards in
English/Engineering who fly in the face of reality and common usage
(but is not made up). They will now emerge from the woodwork again (no
doubt ) ). "Spare way", on the other hand, is quite common as a
term, if not as common, in these circumstances, as "spare socket".


Shaking off the odd bits of frass, I would defend the use of both terms
as being common and acceptable usage.

What I would not defend are the rude, aggressive, and frequently
barely-literate postings appearing under the quasi-humorous allusion to
a certain fair city in the Midlands.


--
Kevin Poole
**Use current month and year to reply (e.g. )***
Car Transport by Tiltbed Trailer - based near Derby

Bob Mannix wrote:

"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
...

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term.

OTOH if you type "plug top" into Google (as a delimited string) you get
58,300 hits.

"Plug top"...so what happened to the rest of the plug?

FAOD it refers to the whole plug. English is often like that: illogical.

I have never heard anyone use the term "spare way", though I have to
admit it's quite common to say "4 way extenstion lead". "Spare socket"
is what "normal" people say... :-)))

The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who see
themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering who fly
in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors. BS 7671 doesn't use it, referring merely to "plugs and
socket-outlets" - but I have seen it used in less formal IEE
publications sometimes (/Wiring Matters/, perhaps).

"Spare way", on the other hand, is quite common as a term, if not as
common, in these circumstances, as "spare socket".

Too obvious to be worthy of discussion, surely?

--
Andy

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:00:04 +0100, Mr Fizzion
wrote:

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

A search on google UK brings up almost 44,000 references for "plug
top".

sponix

"Clive Dive" wrote in message
news:f71a159d55f28548bfd7eb6f2d618741.115311@mygat e.mailgate.org...
Went to a job and needed to plug drill in [pre cordless days]. The
owner told me there was a spare way on a 4 gang extension lead in the
kitchen [alarm bells on standby]. True enough, 1 spare way, indicator
light on and washing machine chunnering away. NO LEAD CONNECTING 4 GANG
TO ANY WALL SOCKET!!! ALARM BELLS RING F.LOUDLY. I traced each wire
back to its respective appliance...guess what? The little tinker had
made up a flex with a plug top at each end and plugged one into a wall
socket and the other INTO the 4 gang...NICE!!

Told me that this was what he always did as he did not want to
invalidate any warranty by opening the 4 gang!!!!!!!! TO55ER! He
nearly invalidated me!

Thought I'd share that with you.

Oh! I cut the lead into 2" pieces in front of him and smashed the plug
tops with a big hammer, and sent an invoice for my wasted time.

Why not make it a requirement that some form of qualification is shown
before materials can be purchased? In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

My garage was powered like this when I moved in, only the 'sockets' were a
three way adapter with its live pins into a block of wood!!!

I agree it is dangerous, but you are lucky he didn't cut YOU into 2 inch
pieces, after using a large hammer on you, I know of people that would, with
less provocation.

mrcheerful

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...
Bob Mannix wrote:

"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
...

snip

The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who
see themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering
who fly in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors.

Er re-read? - That's what I said! "The use of plug-top [...] is rather
confined to those who..."


--
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(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

In article ,
Mr Fizzion wrote:
I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ops/index.html

I have never heard anyone use the term "spare way", though I have to
admit it's quite common to say "4 way extenstion lead". "Spare socket"
is what "normal" people say... :-)))

It's in common use too.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Bob Mannix" wrote in message
...

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...
Bob Mannix wrote:

"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
...

snip

The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who
see themselves as the last defenders of standards in
English/Engineering
who fly in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors.

Er re-read? - That's what I said! "The use of plug-top [...] is rather
confined to those who..."

A plug top is the lid on top of the plug.

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:16:39 +0100, Andy Wade
wrote:

Bob Mannix wrote:

The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who see
themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering who fly
in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

In that case one would expect to find it in the Oxford English
Dictionary. I have just looked in my "4 inch thick" OED and it's not
there.

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:16:39 +0100, Andy Wade
wrote:

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors. BS 7671 doesn't use it, referring merely to "plugs and
socket-outlets" - but I have seen it used in less formal IEE
publications sometimes (/Wiring Matters/, perhaps).

Hmm, looking at some of the hits on google, it would seem "plug top"
is used only to refer to mains plugs. So a jack plug is not called a
plug top. Would you say this is correct?

afaik a "plug top" is the correct term for what is commonly known as "a
plug" (usually a (2/5/13A fused plug). 4 gang extension lead is simply
an extension lead with 4 x (13A) socket outlets on the end! (y/n)?

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

I have never heard anyone use the term "spare way", though I have to
admit it's quite common to say "4 way extenstion lead". "Spare socket"
is what "normal" people say... :-)))

They are technical terms that would be understood by any electrician or
person competent in electrical works. As this is a technical newsgroups,
their use is perfectly acceptable.

Christian.

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:15:42 +0100, "Christian McArdle"
wrote:


They are technical terms that would be understood by any electrician or
person competent in electrical works. As this is a technical newsgroups,
their use is perfectly acceptable.

Hey I spent 3 years doing an electrical engineering degree and I never
heard the term "plug top". Then again such things were considered too
mundane to be even mentioned in lectures, vector calculus and the how
to design an algol compiler being preferred subject matter! :-)

Mr F.

"dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:48:10 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:
Told me that this was what he always did as he did not want to
invalidate any warranty by opening the 4 gang!!!!!!!! TO55ER!
He
nearly invalidated me!

What the hell is a plug top and spare way on a 4 gang extension
lead?

afaik a "plug top" is the correct term for what is commonly known as
"a plug"
(usually a (2/5/13A fused plug). 4 gang extension lead is simply an
extension
lead with 4 x (13A) socket outlets on the end! (y/n)?

I'm still confused about this 4 way extension and the guarantee.
Was the flex on the 4 way too short, so the made up 'plug at each end'
flex was appropriately longer? What then was done with the trailing
short extension on the 4 way?

Is it because more recent 4 way trailing extensions are totally
sealed, rather than having a cover plate on the end for replacing the
flex? If so the problem may lie with the manufacturers who thought
sealed units were safer as well as being more profitable on the basis
that another would be bought when an existing one was found too short.
Perhaps they underestimated the effort some consumers are prepared to
go to adapting what they have rather than buy another.

Roger

Hey I spent 3 years doing an electrical engineering degree and I never
heard the term "plug top". Then again such things were considered too
mundane to be even mentioned in lectures, vector calculus and the how
to design an algol compiler being preferred subject matter! :-)

Most electrical engineering degrees do not touch upon domestic electrical
installations. Mine certainly didn't.

Christian.

Mr Fizzion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:15:42 +0100, "Christian McArdle"
wrote:


They are technical terms that would be understood by any electrician or
person competent in electrical works. As this is a technical newsgroups,
their use is perfectly acceptable.

Hey I spent 3 years doing an electrical engineering degree and I never
heard the term "plug top". Then again such things were considered too
mundane to be even mentioned in lectures, vector calculus and the how
to design an algol compiler being preferred subject matter! :-)

What the ?!£$" has an engineering degree got to do with it? I have a
degree in electrical engineering too but there was no part of the
course that had anything remotely to do with such mundane things as
wiring accessories.

a "qualified electrician" is a totally different animal from an
"electrical engineer" in the same way that a garage mechanic is
different from a car's designer.

I think "plug top" is a description I would rarely use but I *might*
use it to clarify something where the word plug would be ambiguous.

--
Chris Green

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
A plug top is the lid on top of the plug.

Ask one of the many tradesmen you claim to know.

--
*Of course I'm against sin; I'm against anything that I'm too old to enjoy.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

A plug top is the lid on top of the plug.

Ask

snip senility

On 25 Oct 2005 10:06:53 GMT, wrote:

What the ?!£$" has an engineering degree got to do with it? I have a
degree in electrical engineering too but there was no part of the
course that had anything remotely to do with such mundane things as
wiring accessories.

Still you could join the IEE * which an electrician cannot. So you
could potentially sit on the comittee which regulates what the
electrician can do.

Mr F.


*after appropriate engineering experience which may not be
specifically electrical engineering - they admit software engineers
too - God alone knows why.

Miaow, saucer of milk for table nine please.
FFS I wish I hadn't bothered! Still, some of the comments made it worth
while. I feel the standard of debate within this forum is on the
decline though. Yes I am old School [49 asolutely prehistoric] I
remember wooden back boxes, 3/.029 3/.036 etc etc .1's. 3 core and
ECC when it was red white and blue. TRS and floorboard saws. Hot
potted Pyro and Copperclad...and the days before t'internet where people
had to keep
their puerile comments amongst their 'limited group' of friends and not
pontificate across the 4 corners etc etc etc. Getting bored now


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In article ilgate.org,
Clive Dive URL:mailto
In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

How do you get the wires to stay in the plug top? Don't you have to wire
into the plug body, where the pins are?

--
AJL Electronics (G6FGO) Ltd : Satellite and TV aerial systems
http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk

Clive Dive wrote:
Miaow, saucer of milk for table nine please.
FFS I wish I hadn't bothered! Still, some of the comments made it
worth while. I feel the standard of debate within this forum is on
the decline though. Yes I am old School [49 asolutely prehistoric] I
remember wooden back boxes, 3/.029 3/.036 etc etc .1's. 3 core and
ECC when it was red white and blue. TRS and floorboard saws. Hot
potted Pyro and Copperclad...and the days before t'internet where
people had to keep
their puerile comments amongst their 'limited group' of friends and
not pontificate across the 4 corners etc etc etc. Getting bored now

You never did get round to telling us what the job call entailed?
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

In article , dave
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:48:10 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote:


afaik a "plug top" is the correct term for what is commonly known as "a plug"

It's commonly known as a plug because that's what it is. You have a plug and
socket, not a "plug top" and plug.


--
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http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC), "Clive Dive"
wrote:

Miaow, saucer of milk for table nine please.
FFS I wish I hadn't bothered! Still, some of the comments made it worth
while. I feel the standard of debate within this forum is on the
decline though. Yes I am old School [49 asolutely prehistoric] I
remember wooden back boxes, 3/.029 3/.036 etc etc .1's. 3 core and
ECC when it was red white and blue. TRS and floorboard saws. Hot
potted Pyro and Copperclad...and the days before t'internet where people
had to keep
their puerile comments amongst their 'limited group' of friends and not
pontificate across the 4 corners etc etc etc. Getting bored now

We kept you entertained for a few hours at least.

Mr F.

It's commonly known as a plug because that's what it is. You have a plug
and
socket, not a "plug top" and plug.

Well if you want to single handedly remove all synonyms from the English
langauge (and presumably replace your final plug with socket or, better,
socket outlet).

Christian.

Mr Fizzion wrote in
:


In that case one would expect to find it in the Oxford English
Dictionary. I have just looked in my "4 inch thick" OED and it's not
there.

See if you can find "pattress" there; you couldn't have lasted 5 mins in my
job without being familiar with it

mike

Bob Mannix wrote:

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...

Bob Mannix wrote:
The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who
see themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering
who fly in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors.

Er re-read? - That's what I said! "The use of plug-top [...] is rather
confined to those who..."

Interpretation error then. I construed "those who see themselves as the
last defenders of standards in English/Engineering" as the ones who
would want, logically, to call the article in question a "plug" and not
a plug top" and "the face of reality and common usage" to refer to the
usage of "plug top" - because it is in very common use in the electrical
trades. IYSWIM.

--
Andy

"Clive Dive" wrote in
news:55f877f8ef4e1e059c0d072206bd7f86.115311@mygat e.mailgate.org:

Miaow, saucer of milk for table nine please.
FFS I wish I hadn't bothered! Still, some of the comments made it worth
while. I feel the standard of debate within this forum is on the
decline though. Yes I am old School [49 asolutely prehistoric] I
remember wooden back boxes, 3/.029 3/.036 etc etc .1's. 3 core and
ECC when it was red white and blue. TRS and floorboard saws. Hot
potted Pyro and Copperclad...and the days before t'internet where people
had to keep
their puerile comments amongst their 'limited group' of friends and not
pontificate across the 4 corners etc etc etc. Getting bored now


I think your summing up is right.

My school is not as old as yours but all you quote is familiar; fondest
memories of terminating pyro in Malaya......

But at least I've learned how much credence to give to one or three of the
posters

mike

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:00:04 UTC, Mr Fizzion
wrote:

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of the
online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what happened to
the rest of the plug?

Just shows that the Internet is not infallible; the term has been around
for 40 years to my own knowledge.

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poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...
Bob Mannix wrote:

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...

Bob Mannix wrote:
The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who
see themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering
who fly in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors.

Er re-read? - That's what I said! "The use of plug-top [...] is rather
confined to those who..."

Interpretation error then. I construed "those who see themselves as the
last defenders of standards in English/Engineering" as the ones who would
want, logically, to call the article in question a "plug" and not a plug
top" and "the face of reality and common usage" to refer to the usage of
"plug top" - because it is in very common use in the electrical trades.
IYSWIM.

Ah yes, interpretation (on my part) I felt that the last defenders of
standards in English /Engineering were quaint and old fashioned for so
doing! I see you felt the opposite hence the confusion. If we are not
careful we will be on to metric/imperial soon, you mark my words! ;o)


--
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(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message


In article ilgate.org,
Clive Dive URL:mailto
In its simplest form there is more
than one way to wire a plug top...but how many of these are correct?

How do you get the wires to stay in the plug top? Don't you have to wire
into the plug body, where the pins are?


Thats easy, we use a large amount of NASA technology,lubricate with
elbow grease and pass over to the situation assessor. We then take the
nearest pedant and use his noggin to beat the wires into place,presuming
said pedant has not interim exited his domicillary portal in search of a
life

Carpe diem; cogitus ergo descendus


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s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:00:04 +0100, Mr Fizzion
wrote:

I think you must be making this up! Neither wikipedia nor any of
the online dictionaries know the term. "Plug top"...so what
happened to the rest of the plug?

A search on google UK brings up almost 44,000 references for "plug
top".

Try "britney nude", you'll get even more..... )

Copperclad...

Wosserdiffrence then?

Owain


Copperclad?

Shortage of Cu in early 70's. BICC brought out a cable consisting of
Copper coated Aluminium. All cable sizes had to increase for equivalent
current carrying capacity. It was pure Cr4p!. Only to be bettered by
AlCuMic...now
who can remember that? I've still got some fittings for it!! and
imperial Pyro, and wedge pot seals and ...it goes on and on




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Andy Wade formulated on Tuesday :
Bob Mannix wrote:

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...

Bob Mannix wrote:
The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who see
themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering who
fly in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

I'd suggest it's the other way round. "Plug top" is a rather quaint
old-fashioned expression, mostly used by old-school electricians and
vendors.

Er re-read? - That's what I said! "The use of plug-top [...] is rather
confined to those who..."

Interpretation error then. I construed "those who see themselves as the last
defenders of standards in English/Engineering" as the ones who would want,
logically, to call the article in question a "plug" and not a plug top" and
"the face of reality and common usage" to refer to the usage of "plug top" -
because it is in very common use in the electrical trades. IYSWIM.

I think the 'plug top' arose as a need to differentiate it from what
was called a 'plug'. The 'plug' being better known these days as a
'socket outlet'.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Mr Fizzion was thinking very hard :
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:16:39 +0100, Andy Wade
wrote:

Bob Mannix wrote:

The use of "plug top" rather than plug is rather confined to those who see
themselves as the last defenders of standards in English/Engineering who
fly in the face of reality and common usage (but is not made up).

In that case one would expect to find it in the Oxford English
Dictionary. I have just looked in my "4 inch thick" OED and it's not
there.

Why would you expect to find technical and trade reference names for
items in the OED?

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

In article ilgate.org,
Clive Dive URL:mailto

How do you get the wires to stay in the plug top? Don't you have to wire
into the plug body, where the pins are?


Thats easy, we use a large amount of NASA technology,lubricate with
elbow grease and pass over to the situation assessor. We then take the
nearest pedant and use his noggin to beat the wires into place,presuming
said pedant has not interim exited his domicillary portal in search of a
life

Carpe diem; cogitus ergo descendus

So that clears that one up then. :-)


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AJL