Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

* I missed the beginning. They built a house which appeared to block
out the light to the side windows of the adjacent property. In a case
like this is it OK so long as the neighbour does not complain to the
planning dept when plans are announced?

* The flat roof had a plywood base. How long would this last? I used to
have problems with the plywood on my old flat roof garage.

* Peckham has a dodgy reputation. Wonder if there were any break-ins
during the build. They never tell you stuff like this!

Bruce

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writes:
Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

* I missed the beginning. They built a house which appeared to block
out the light to the side windows of the adjacent property. In a case
like this is it OK so long as the neighbour does not complain to the
planning dept when plans are announced?

It's also OK if the side windows were put in without planning
permission, as a colleague found out. (Planning dept suggested
applying for retrospective planning permission -- there was
nothing to lose as the windows had been in long enough that
even if it was refused, they couldn't be forced to remove them.)

* The flat roof had a plywood base. How long would this last? I used to
have problems with the plywood on my old flat roof garage.

It probably got attacked by condensation from underneath.
With proper insulation and ventilation, that shouldn't happen.

* Peckham has a dodgy reputation. Wonder if there were any break-ins
during the build. They never tell you stuff like this!

Reminds me of a recent flight back from Los Angeles...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we will shortly be landing at Heathrow.
Passengers on the lefthand side of the plane should find they
have a good view of the River Thames, London Bridge, Tower Bridge,"
and he went on to list several more attractions I don't recall.
"I'm sorry, but passengers on the right hand side of the plane
can only see Peckham."
It caused quite a giggle at the end of a long flight.

--
Andrew Gabriel

wrote:
Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and
clad it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

* I missed the beginning. They built a house which appeared to block
out the light to the side windows of the adjacent property. In a case
like this is it OK so long as the neighbour does not complain to the
planning dept when plans are announced?

I think he was restricted to a single storey as it was out of keeping with
the rest of the housing there, and because it would have affected the light
of the neighbouring houses. He also had to hide it from the road front. In
the end, it looked sort of similar to the garage of the house on the right -
I guess that was partly by plan of the planners.

Anyone else notice the "For Sale" board at the house on the left mid-way
through?

D

wrote:

Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

He uses a steel frame, a concrete fire board, something like 50mm to
100mm of PIR foam, and then the plywood over the top.

* I missed the beginning. They built a house which appeared to block
out the light to the side windows of the adjacent property. In a case
like this is it OK so long as the neighbour does not complain to the
planning dept when plans are announced?

I thought he had a barrage on the right hand side, and the house to the
left did not have any low level windows?

* The flat roof had a plywood base. How long would this last? I used to
have problems with the plywood on my old flat roof garage.

Ought to be good for 30 years min I would have thought - probably much
longer. There were three layers resin bonded together - with the roofing
layers over the top.

* Peckham has a dodgy reputation. Wonder if there were any break-ins
during the build. They never tell you stuff like this!

Judging by the way that Kevin seems to revel in "it all going pear
shaped" on some of the builds, I bet they would! ;-) Perhaps that is why
they built a "stealth house".

Not to my personal taste, but a very impressive achievement and result
all the same.


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John.

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Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

* I missed the beginning. They built a house which appeared to block
out the light to the side windows of the adjacent property. In a case
like this is it OK so long as the neighbour does not complain to the
planning dept when plans are announced?

* The flat roof had a plywood base. How long would this last? I used to
have problems with the plywood on my old flat roof garage.

* Peckham has a dodgy reputation. Wonder if there were any break-ins
during the build. They never tell you stuff like this!

Bruce


Not in this program but another property development program, guy buys
burned out shell at auction and proceeds to renovate it..... part way
through it showed that his boiler and generator were stolen.

I've looked on the C4 web site.
The house next door is quite a handsome house. It has ground floor and
1st floor side windows.

Total cost was =A3170k + =A340k for the land...and he made the glass roof
himself on the cheap. And got free/cheap labour from his mates.
The building costs seem very high for the end result.

Bruce

Yes, that was a good program. "So you wanna be a Property Developer".

Somebody fly-tipped in the blokes back yard as well.

Bruce

In message , John
Rumm writes
wrote:

Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.
snip

Not to my personal taste, but a very impressive achievement and result
all the same.

I loved the sliding glass roof.
--
Chris French, Leeds

wrote:

Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

The spa bath hidden under the bed seemed an interesting idea,
until you start to think about the practicalities. We have one
from the same supplier and, whilst it is great, the amount of
steam (water vapour for pedants) it gives off is enormous. This
is acceptable in a bathroom, but their whole open plan bedroom,
complete with its acres of glass, would be awash.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

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Yes, that was a good program. "So you wanna be a Property Developer".

Somebody fly-tipped in the blokes back yard as well.

Bruce


yeah, that was it..... he didn't have such a good time.

Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Reminds me of a recent flight back from Los Angeles...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we will shortly be landing at Heathrow.
Passengers on the lefthand side of the plane should find they
have a good view of the River Thames, London Bridge, Tower Bridge,"
and he went on to list several more attractions I don't recall.
"I'm sorry, but passengers on the right hand side of the plane
can only see Peckham."
It caused quite a giggle at the end of a long flight.

On a flight from Brisbane to Sydney we were over the sea flying past
Sydney. The announcement went

Passangers on the right hand side of the plane will have a panaramic
view of Sydney harbour. Passangers of the left hand side will have a
view of passangers of the right hand side!

Guy
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"David Hearn" wrote in message
...
Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and
clad it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

* I missed the beginning. They built a house which appeared to block
out the light to the side windows of the adjacent property. In a case
like this is it OK so long as the neighbour does not complain to the
planning dept when plans are announced?

I think he was restricted to a single storey as it was out of keeping with
the rest of the housing there, and because it would have affected the
light
of the neighbouring houses. He also had to hide it from the road front.
In
the end, it looked sort of similar to the garage of the house on the
right -
I guess that was partly by plan of the planners.

Anyone else notice the "For Sale" board at the house on the left mid-way
through?

Yep. If I had been that house I would have bid enough to get the land at
auction so as to extend the garden and stop some idiot squeezing his
erection against my toilet window.

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...
wrote:

Anyone see "Grand Designs" last night? Chap built a flat-roof house on
a narrow site in Peckham. He basically banged up a metal frame and clad
it in some "phenolic plywood" or something, with sliding glass
sky-lights.

He uses a steel frame, a concrete fire board, something like 50mm to
100mm of PIR foam, and then the plywood over the top.

It was 50mm which I can't see meeting part L. As indeed I can't see how
half the structure got through most parts of the regs.
I assume the BCO had to be lenient as it was on TV. Bet he'd rather have
condemned the whole thing.

Mike wrote:

Yep. If I had been that house I would have bid enough to get the land at
auction so as to extend the garden and stop some idiot squeezing his
erection against my toilet window.

How do you know it was not the same idiot selling the bit of land
adjacent to his toilet window in the first place, since it was a chance
to get an extra 40K for not much, and "who cares since I am flogging the
house anyway!" ;-)


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Chris J Dixon wrote:

steam (water vapour for pedants) it gives off is enormous. This
is acceptable in a bathroom, but their whole open plan bedroom,
complete with its acres of glass, would be awash.

Perhaps that is the idea to save needing curtains ;-)

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wrote:

I've looked on the C4 web site.
The house next door is quite a handsome house. It has ground floor and
1st floor side windows.

Total cost was £170k + £40k for the land...and he made the glass roof
himself on the cheap. And got free/cheap labour from his mates.
The building costs seem very high for the end result.

......and 210k in London buys you what exactly?

a) single room ****ty studio flat out in the middle of nowhere
b) druggies council flat hole out in the middle of nowhere

.....err thats it


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What I meant was that for 170k building costs I would have expected a
more substantial building. Maybe even some brickwork...

Bruce

wrote:

I've looked on the C4 web site.
The house next door is quite a handsome house. It has ground floor and
1st floor side windows.

Total cost was £170k + £40k for the land...and he made the glass roof
himself on the cheap. And got free/cheap labour from his mates.
The building costs seem very high for the end result.

Bruce

Thought te 170k included the land...

wrote:

What I meant was that for 170k building costs I would have expected a
more substantial building. Maybe even some brickwork...

Bruce

Why? that building was substantial enough.

I was very impressed with the way he did it. That steel would stand more
earthquakes than bricks ever would, and the ply cladding was fine by me.

Essentialy it was a timber frame type building with the timber replaced
by steel.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
wrote:

What I meant was that for 170k building costs I would have expected a
more substantial building. Maybe even some brickwork...

Bruce

Why? that building was substantial enough.

I was very impressed with the way he did it. That steel would stand more
earthquakes than bricks ever would, and the ply cladding was fine by me.

Essentialy it was a timber frame type building with the timber replaced
by steel.

I had no particular problem with the construction. I just thought it didn't
work, as a finished house: it was, well, a posh kids' den, nothing more.
--
SAm. all sweeping generalisations are false

John Rumm wrote:

How do you know it was not the same idiot selling the bit of land
adjacent to his toilet window in the first place, since it was a chance
to get an extra 40K for not much, and "who cares since I am flogging the
house anyway!" ;-)

And the timing of the sales are crucial to minimise CGT.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:

Yep. If I had been that house I would have bid enough to get the land
at
auction so as to extend the garden and stop some idiot squeezing his
erection against my toilet window.

How do you know it was not the same idiot selling the bit of land
adjacent to his toilet window in the first place, since it was a chance
to get an extra 40K for not much, and "who cares since I am flogging the
house anyway!" ;-)

I think I would sell the house first retaining the land, then sell the land
later. The house was seriously devalued by that monstrosity.

"Paul \( Skiing8 \)" wrote in message ...
wrote in message
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Yes, that was a good program. "So you wanna be a Property Developer".

Somebody fly-tipped in the blokes back yard as well.

Bruce


yeah, that was it..... he didn't have such a good time.

I had all my kitchen appliances ripped out during my last project.
They flooded the place too when the washing machine came out.
Everything was carried out of the front door and, of course, nobody
saw anything....

Sam Nelson wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:

wrote:


What I meant was that for 170k building costs I would have expected a
more substantial building. Maybe even some brickwork...

Bruce


Why? that building was substantial enough.

I was very impressed with the way he did it. That steel would stand more
earthquakes than bricks ever would, and the ply cladding was fine by me.

Essentialy it was a timber frame type building with the timber replaced
by steel.


I had no particular problem with the construction. I just thought it didn't
work, as a finished house: it was, well, a posh kids' den, nothing more.

Thts what most houses are.

Mike wrote:


"John Rumm" wrote in message

How do you know it was not the same idiot selling the bit of land
adjacent to his toilet window in the first place, since it was a chance
to get an extra 40K for not much, and "who cares since I am flogging the
house anyway!" ;-)

I think I would sell the house first retaining the land, then sell the land
later. The house was seriously devalued by that monstrosity.

IIRC doing it that way, the land gets full CGT, as it is no
longer part of your main dwelling.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

In article ,
(Jon) writes:

I had all my kitchen appliances ripped out during my last project.
They flooded the place too when the washing machine came out.
Everything was carried out of the front door and, of course, nobody
saw anything....

Perhaps the first appliance should be the burglar alarm.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:


"John Rumm" wrote in message

How do you know it was not the same idiot selling the bit of land
adjacent to his toilet window in the first place, since it was a chance
to get an extra 40K for not much, and "who cares since I am flogging
the
house anyway!" ;-)

I think I would sell the house first retaining the land, then sell the
land
later. The house was seriously devalued by that monstrosity.

IIRC doing it that way, the land gets full CGT, as it is no
longer part of your main dwelling.

True. But as the land went at auction for only £40k, and you would have
owned it for many years, and provided you were married and had it in joint
names, you should be able to mimimize the tax due.