RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"

"Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."

"Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."

"the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."


http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org

HTH
--
Cliff

Cliff wrote:

RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"


And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
security guard that's unarmed? The first person they call for help are
armed police who put a stop to the killings.

Statistically most shootings are by card-carying or Democrat leaning people.
So, "Wingers with Guns" should read: "Left Wingers with Guns"



"Cliff" wrote in message
...
RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"

"Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."

"Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."

"the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."


http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org

HTH
--
Cliff

Tom Gardner wrote:

Statistically most shootings are by card-carying or Democrat leaning people.
So, "Wingers with Guns" should read: "Left Wingers with Guns"

Actually "wingers" is a good term, because both left- and right-wingers
are nuts.

Ironic who's using the term, though.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
...
Statistically most shootings are by card-carying or Democrat leaning
people.
So, "Wingers with Guns" should read: "Left Wingers with Guns"

And how would you know that, Tom?

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:12:44 -0500, Cliff wrote:

RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"

"Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."

"Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."

"the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."


http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org

HTH


If cops were disarmed this incident could have been prevented. Right.


The school had metal detectors and an unarmed security guard that, I
guess, they expected to act as some sort of talisman to save them from
evil. Modern shamanism, be stupid then blame inanimate object.


Terrific.

Bill Smith

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:08:35 GMT, Wayne
wrote:



Cliff wrote:

RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"


And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
security guard that's unarmed?

According to the gun-phobics, if the security guard doesn't
have a gun, the security guard won't suddenly go nuts and
shoot up the place. No one in a gun-free zone can use a gun
to shoot up the place. The idea that someone might not obey
the gun-free zone rule never occurs to the gun-phobics. Or
if it does, they don't care - their fear of even the sight
of a (horror) gun being greater than their fear of a
murderer.

The first person they call for help are
armed police who put a stop to the killings.

That's OK. It's always more important to preserve the
gun-free atmosphere than to be prepared for an emergency.
Doncha know?

--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:43:10 -0800, Tim Wescott
wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

Statistically most shootings are by card-carying or Democrat leaning people.
So, "Wingers with Guns" should read: "Left Wingers with Guns"

Actually "wingers" is a good term, because both left- and right-wingers
are nuts.

Yes, when speaking in gobblydegook, it's good to be as vague as possible, since
the person doing the speaking is as confused as he hopes the listeners will be.


Ironic who's using the term, though.

Little cliffie? Nothing ironic about him being cluelessly vague.

Cliff wrote:
Guess what, Cliff? I have never wounded or killed anybody. Unlike
your freakin hero Ted Kennedy. And I pray that I don't have to.
Guess that's quite a shock to your libido huh? What, you think we
all just lay around dreaming of the day we splatter somebody's guts
over the sidewalk? You're one sick mother. I don't want to shoot
anybody. But I have the God-given right to as a last resort. Oh,
yeah. Come be my neighbor. Call 911 and tell the scum to wait an
hour or 2 until the cops show up to write a report over your dead
body. Idiot.

"Cliff" wrote in message
...
: RED LAKE, Minn. ----
:
: "storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
: dead"
:
: "Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
: likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."
:
: "Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."
:
: "the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."
:
:
:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org
:
:
He killed his grandfather, a police officer. then he took his grandfather's
duty weapons, put on the issued Body Armor and drove the police car to the
school.

What we have are kids bullying other kids, to the point that those bullied
strike back. Parents nor teachers have control, only the students in some
weird "Lord of the Flies" culture...

I heard a comment from one of the school administrators, he mumbled some
bureaucratic blather "all procedures were followed" and "they had an
action plan" as if that meant anything in the real world.

We live in an age where young boys are influenced more by super-violent
video games and TV, than by parents or teachers. Should we be surprised
when crap like this happens? At least he had the decency to off himself.

Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:08:35 GMT, Wayne
wrote:



Cliff wrote:

RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"


And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
security guard that's unarmed?


According to the gun-phobics, if the security guard doesn't
have a gun, the security guard won't suddenly go nuts and
shoot up the place. No one in a gun-free zone can use a gun
to shoot up the place. The idea that someone might not obey
the gun-free zone rule never occurs to the gun-phobics. Or
if it does, they don't care - their fear of even the sight
of a (horror) gun being greater than their fear of a
murderer.


The first person they call for help are
armed police who put a stop to the killings.


That's OK. It's always more important to preserve the
gun-free atmosphere than to be prepared for an emergency.
Doncha know?

--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/

"Omega" wrote:
: "Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
: likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."
:
: "Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."
:
: "the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."
:
:
:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org
:
:
He killed his grandfather, a police officer. then he took his grandfather's
duty weapons, put on the issued Body Armor and drove the police car to the
school.
So, what you're tell us is that is WASN'T his fault - it was the EVIL
gun, right? Are you related to Oprah, somehow? I don't know why he
did it, but I'm glad he's dead. There. Get over it. Idiots with
guns deserve to die. And the people who are grieving over the loss of
their kids need to find someone like you and skin you alive - I'm sure
it would make them feel better.

What we have are kids bullying other kids, to the point that those bullied
strike back. Parents nor teachers have control, only the students in some
weird "Lord of the Flies" culture...

"TheAlligator" wrote in message
...
: "Omega" wrote:
: : "Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
: : likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."
: :
: : "Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."
: :
: : "the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."
: :
: :
: :
:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org
: :
: :
: He killed his grandfather, a police officer. then he took his
grandfather's
: duty weapons, put on the issued Body Armor and drove the police car to
the
: school.
: So, what you're tell us is that is WASN'T his fault - it was the EVIL
: gun, right? Are you related to Oprah, somehow? I don't know why he
: did it, but I'm glad he's dead. There. Get over it. Idiots with
: guns deserve to die. And the people who are grieving over the loss of
: their kids need to find someone like you and skin you alive - I'm sure
: it would make them feel better.
:
: What we have are kids bullying other kids, to the point that those
bullied
: strike back. Parents nor teachers have control, only the students in
some
: weird "Lord of the Flies" culture...

It means that as long as the police have weapons, it is possible to get
guns.

However, you have to accept that the police and military are your superior,
especially if you hate guns. Because they are elite enough such that their
lives have to be defended, even if you die.

Yawn....

Same old one trick pony still, eh, idiot?

ral

Tim Killian wrote:

I heard a comment from one of the school administrators, he mumbled some
bureaucratic blather "all procedures were followed" and "they had an
action plan" as if that meant anything in the real world.

We live in an age where young boys are influenced more by super-violent
video games and TV, than by parents or teachers. Should we be surprised
when crap like this happens? At least he had the decency to off himself.

Robert Sturgeon wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:08:35 GMT, Wayne
wrote:



Cliff wrote:

RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"


And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
security guard that's unarmed?


According to the gun-phobics, if the security guard doesn't
have a gun, the security guard won't suddenly go nuts and
shoot up the place. No one in a gun-free zone can use a gun
to shoot up the place. The idea that someone might not obey
the gun-free zone rule never occurs to the gun-phobics. Or
if it does, they don't care - their fear of even the sight
of a (horror) gun being greater than their fear of a
murderer.


The first person they call for help are
armed police who put a stop to the killings.


That's OK. It's always more important to preserve the
gun-free atmosphere than to be prepared for an emergency.
Doncha know?

--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/

One item of note in this event is that he used Police issued guns,
Police issued body armor and even an actual Police car. Even the gun ban
the left wingers want would not have prevented this event.

Pete C.

67.3% of all statistics are made-up on the spot!


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
...
Statistically most shootings are by card-carying or Democrat leaning
people.
So, "Wingers with Guns" should read: "Left Wingers with Guns"

And how would you know that, Tom?

--
Ed Huntress

Wayne wrote:

Cliff wrote:

RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"



And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
security guard that's unarmed?

This is true , how ya going to steal his gun if he is unarmed ?


The first person they call for help are
armed police who put a stop to the killings.

Cliff wrote:
RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"

Press sensationalization.

:/

"myal" wrote in message
...
: Wayne wrote:
:
: Cliff wrote:
:
: RED LAKE, Minn. ----
:
: "storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
: dead"
:
:
:
: And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
: security guard that's unarmed?
:
: This is true , how ya going to steal his gun if he is unarmed ?

You find an armed cop, as the kid did.

: The first person they call for help are
: armed police who put a stop to the killings.

Omega wrote:
"myal" wrote in message
...
: Wayne wrote:
:
: Cliff wrote:
:
: RED LAKE, Minn. ----
:
: "storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
: dead"
:
:
:
: And one was a unarmed security guard. What's the point in having a
: security guard that's unarmed?
:
: This is true , how ya going to steal his gun if he is unarmed ?

You find an armed cop, as the kid did.

Cops shouldnt be allowed to carry guns then

( for them who are getting all steamed up over having read that , its
not meant to be taken seriously OK ?)


: The first person they call for help are
: armed police who put a stop to the killings.

"TheAlligator" wrote in message
But I have the God-given right to as a last resort.

How do you know that God gave you this "right"?

Bob

Bob wrote:
"TheAlligator" wrote in message

But I have the God-given right to as a last resort.

How do you know that God gave you this "right"?

God hands out rights to everyone. He's very generous. He expects the
recipients to use those rights wisely. If they don't God expects
others who have been given rights to resolve the problems. It's a good
system.

Once again, you completely miss the point.

Leftist egalitarian mass consumer horse**** leaves people alienated and they
lash out.

Its not what you've got, its what you do with it.

HTH


"Cliff" wrote in message
...
RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"

"Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."

"Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."

"the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."


http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org

HTH
--
Cliff

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:40:27 -0700, Tim Killian
wrote:

We live in an age where young boys are influenced more by super-violent
video games and TV, than by parents or teachers. Should we be surprised
when crap like this happens?

[
It is preferential to refrain from the utilization of sesquipedalian
verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualization can be
verbalized using compararatively simplistic lexicographical
entitities.
]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:44:29 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

One item of note in this event is that he used Police issued guns,
Police issued body armor and even an actual Police car. Even the gun ban
the left wingers want would not have prevented this event.

Well, it's just natural ..... Winger kiddies with their 2nd
ammendment rights .... on & on you go about how they should
be well armed and now you want to whine .....
--
Cliff

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:03:17 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

"Cliff" wrote in message
.. .
RED LAKE, Minn. ----

"storm of bullets that left 10 people on this Indian reservation
dead"

"Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."

"Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."

"the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."


http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org

HTH

Wingers CANNOT learn to bottom post ...


Statistically most shootings are by card-carying or Democrat leaning people.
So, "Wingers with Guns" should read: "Left Wingers with Guns"

Nice of you to call those Libertains "lefties".
Gunner would be so very proud of his conversion.

Are you going to tell him?
--
Cliff

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:54:02 GMT,
(TheAlligator) wrote:

"Omega" wrote:
: "Among the areas of inquiry the Federal Bureau of Investigation is
: likely to pursue is a neo-Nazi Web forum .."
:
: "Hitler's birthday, April 20 ....."
:
: "the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party's Web forum."
:
:
:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ite%3Anazi.org
:
:
He killed his grandfather, a police officer. then he took his grandfather's
duty weapons, put on the issued Body Armor and drove the police car to the
school.
So, what you're tell us is that is WASN'T his fault - it was the EVIL
gun, right?

Well, what if all he had handy were Turnips?

Are you related to Oprah, somehow? I don't know why he
did it, but I'm glad he's dead. There. Get over it. Idiots with
guns deserve to die. And the people who are grieving over the loss of
their kids need to find someone like you and skin you alive - I'm sure
it would make them feel better.

What we have are kids bullying other kids, to the point that those bullied
strike back. Parents nor teachers have control, only the students in some
weird "Lord of the Flies" culture...



Wingers are slow learners. They cannot even learn to trim, snip or
bottom post.
I expect it reminds them of their usual bottom feeding
habits.
--
Cliff

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:44:29 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

One item of note in this event is that he used Police issued guns,
Police issued body armor and even an actual Police car. Even the gun ban
the left wingers want would not have prevented this event.

Well, it's just natural ..... Winger kiddies with their 2nd
ammendment rights .... on & on you go about how they should
be well armed and now you want to whine .....
--
Cliff

Are you implying that police are all wingers?

If you're implying that the kid was a winger, that is quite unclear at
this early time. It also seems rather odd that a kid who was apparently
a native american would be a neo-nazi.

Probably best to wait for more details before rushing to judgment.

Pete C.

Cliff wrote:
It is preferential to refrain from the utilization of sesquipedalian
verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualization can be
verbalized using compararatively simplistic lexicographical
entitities.
]
Dang Cliff - I think you just shot me. Am I bleeding?

Cliff wrote:
Well, what if all he had handy were Turnips?
Truthfully, I'd rather see you coming at me with a gun. I hate
turnips.

"Bob" wrote:
How do you know that God gave you this "right"?
Good question. The obvious retort would be how do you know he didn't,
but that's a ridiculous answer. If the very core philosophy of 2
people is disparagingly different, why even make enemies over it?
BTW, how would you answer the question "What is Truth?". If the
answer doesn't include the word "absolute" in a positive sense, and
there's some mumbo-jumbo about one man's truth being another man's
lie, then I think we're wasting each other's time.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:25:03 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:44:29 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

One item of note in this event is that he used Police issued guns,
Police issued body armor and even an actual Police car. Even the gun ban
the left wingers want would not have prevented this event.

Well, it's just natural ..... Winger kiddies with their 2nd
ammendment rights .... on & on you go about how they should
be well armed and now you want to whine .....
--
Cliff

Are you implying that police are all wingers?

If you're implying that the kid was a winger, that is quite unclear at
this early time. It also seems rather odd that a kid who was apparently
a native american would be a neo-nazi.

Probably best to wait for more details before rushing to judgment.

Pete C.

I think its already been published that he is another Prozac shooter,
like the two little *******s at Columbine, and most of the other
school shootings in the last few years.

Gunner


Lathe Dementia. Recognized as one of the major sub-strains of the
all-consuming virus, Packratitis. Usual symptoms easily recognized
and normally is contracted for life. Can be very contagious.
michael

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:36:53 -0700, Louis Boyd
wrote:

Bob wrote:
"TheAlligator" wrote in message

But I have the God-given right to as a last resort.

How do you know that God gave you this "right"?

God hands out rights to everyone. He's very generous. He expects the
recipients to use those rights wisely. If they don't God expects
others who have been given rights to resolve the problems. It's a good
system.


I'm tired of you putting words in my mouth. Which is why I give you a
cold every once in a while. But since you're such a slow learner, I
think I'll make it a heart attack next time. Or maybe it'll be
heartburn, I like to keep you guys guessing.

GOD

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:36:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Im not excusing this dumb *******s behavior

Why not?
After all, he only had a nice healthy gun.
What good are they if not used as god intended
wingers to use them?
--
Cliff

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:36:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Google prozac + homicide for some interesting data


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ight+winger%22

http://www.google.com/search?num=100...e+conservative

HTH
--
Cliff

"Cliff" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:36:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Im not excusing this dumb *******s behavior

Why not?
After all, he only had a nice healthy gun.
What good are they if not used as god intended
wingers to use them?

Subject: I learned a new word.... ...find ways to use it in conversation
Hoplophobia is an irrational and morbid fear of guns, a term coined by Jeff
Cooper, from Greek hoplites, weapon. Symptoms may include discomfort,
disorientation, rapid pulse, sweating, faintness and more, at the mere sight
or even thought of guns. Hoplophobes are common and should never be involved
in setting gun policies, though many are hard at work in the rights-denial
movement, and are arguably the greatest threat in the debate. Point out
hoplophobic behavior when you see it, it is dangerous, and sufferers deserve
pity. A hoplophobe (HOP-li-fobe) can often be cured by training, or by a day
at the range. - (www.gunlaws.com).


--
Cliff

David Moffitt wrote:


Subject: I learned a new word.... a term coined by Jeff
Cooper, from Greek hoplites, weapon.

You are confused:
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/...r/hoplites.htm

When learning words try the ones that actually exist, I'll
start you off:

A Is for Apple.

HTH

Cliff piddled around and finally wrote:

God told me in a dream that I was pretty well ****ed for being such an idiot.

Strabo wrote:


Ritalin (dextramphetamine) is the most popular remedy for
unruly boys.

Strabo:

Just a minor correction:

Ritalin is not dextramphetamine or dextroamphetamine, it's
methylphenidate. Methylphenidate is a central nervous system stimulant
slightly stronger than caffeine and less potent than the amphetamines.

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:47:15 GMT, BottleBob
wrote:

Strabo wrote:


Ritalin (dextramphetamine) is the most popular remedy for
unruly boys.

Strabo:

Just a minor correction:

Ritalin is not dextramphetamine or dextroamphetamine, it's
methylphenidate. Methylphenidate is a central nervous system stimulant
slightly stronger than caffeine and less potent than the amphetamines.

Less potent than Amphetamines?

Blink blink....there are a **** load of cops and security personnel
who occasionally use one of their kids Rtalin tabs when doing stake
outs.

I know from personal experience, it will keep you wide awake, and
totally alert for at least 12 hours. The big difference between them
and dexies, amphetamines and whatnot..is you dont get the urge to
paint all new house numbers on the curbs in your neighborhood.

Thats some potent ****.

Gunner


Lathe Dementia. Recognized as one of the major sub-strains of the
all-consuming virus, Packratitis. Usual symptoms easily recognized
and normally is contracted for life. Can be very contagious.
michael