Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work. |
Reply |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#41
|
|||
|
|||
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:10:12 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote: yourname wrote: But my point was: how are you *risking* anything more with PayPal than you would by sending a money order, check, or cash to an eBay seller?? I consider PayPal to be much more reliable/risk free than your average random eBay seller. If you open a PayPal account, they link it to your checking account. If someone penetrates your account, they can empty out your checking account! I know people this has happened to. It is scary. Jon It happened to me. Took a bit over a month to get the money back. Ive since changed the passwords and only keep a few dollars in that account. (not that I have any money anyways..sigh) Gunner Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken |
#42
|
|||
|
|||
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:24:21 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: jim rozen wrote: ... If they cleaned up their house a bit more folks would use paypal but for now it's too risky. But my point was: how are you *risking* anything more with PayPal than you would by sending a money order, check, or cash to an eBay seller?? I consider PayPal to be much more reliable/risk free than your average random eBay seller. Bob Bob, have you ever had money withdrawn electronically without your permission? I have. The bank said the company doing the withdrawals just sends the proper info and the bank hands over the dough. Even if you tell the bank that nobody but you has permission to make electronic withdrawals. And if you set up another account just for paypal for safety when paypal asks for more than what's in the account the bank will charge you for being overdrawn even if they don't send any money to paypal. Then you have to go through all the trouble of getting paypal to tell the bank they made a mistake to protect your credit and so you can be reimbursed for the overdraft fees. Eric |
#43
|
|||
|
|||
In article , Eric R Snow says...
Bob, have you ever had money withdrawn electronically without your permission? I have. The bank said the company doing the withdrawals just sends the proper info and the bank hands over the dough. Even if you tell the bank that nobody but you has permission to make electronic withdrawals. And if you set up another account just for paypal for safety when paypal asks for more than what's in the account the bank will charge you for being overdrawn even if they don't send any money to paypal. Then you have to go through all the trouble of getting paypal to tell the bank they made a mistake to protect your credit and so you can be reimbursed for the overdraft fees. I've also seen cases where the bank will 'cover' one account with another, even though they were specifically told not to. These days I'd be suprised if they would not do that, even if the accounts were at two different banks! Banks basically do whatever they want, they have your money. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
#44
|
|||
|
|||
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:10:12 -0600, the inscrutable Jon Elson
spake: yourname wrote: But my point was: how are you *risking* anything more with PayPal than you would by sending a money order, check, or cash to an eBay seller?? I consider PayPal to be much more reliable/risk free than your average random eBay seller. If you open a PayPal account, they link it to your checking account. If someone penetrates your account, they can empty out your checking account! I know people this has happened to. It is scary. That's why I spent half an hour and no money to open a free account (specifically for Paypal use) at a local bank. OTOH, when someone stole my credit card number from one of the dozen vendors I use online (and have for a decade with only this incident to lament), I got acknowledgement emails from the companies and instantly notified my bank. The money was back in my account (and no fees were charged) the next day. They had sucked the account dry and run up some CC bills since the card was linked to the account, so rapid reaction was really nice to have. I still use U.S. Bank today. Great folks. ---------------------------------------------------------- Please return Stewardess to her original upright position. -------------------------------------- http://www.diversify.com Tagline-based T-shirts! |
#45
|
|||
|
|||
You will find the term "offsets" buried in the fine print of most
checking account agreements. It allows banks to transfer money, at their discretion, from other accounts you might have with them to cover deficiencies in a checking, credit card, or loan account. The only way to prevent it is to have your accounts with separate banks. Paypal is great for $5 eBay payments when everything goes right. It's a black hole when something goes wrong and large amounts are involved. I would never allow them access to any checking account. jim rozen wrote: I've also seen cases where the bank will 'cover' one account with another, even though they were specifically told not to. These days I'd be suprised if they would not do that, even if the accounts were at two different banks! Banks basically do whatever they want, they have your money. Jim |
#46
|
|||
|
|||
In article , Tim Killian says...
Paypal is great for $5 eBay payments when everything goes right. Heck, Abe Lincoln in an envelope does better than that! :^) Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
#47
|
|||
|
|||
|
#48
|
|||
|
|||
Note that one of the trojans may have installed backdoors in the Will adaware find the trojans? IF not what does find them? |
#49
|
|||
|
|||
On 17 Mar 2005 20:50:44 GMT, Charles A. Sherwood wrote:
Note that one of the trojans may have installed backdoors in the Will adaware find the trojans? It finds most if not all of them. I'll run an adaware scan before I run an antivirus scan, just because it's quicker. IF not what does find them? AVG antivirus is good, free, and very configurable. www.grisoft.com |
#50
|
|||
|
|||
Ignoramus1084 wrote:
Exactly. Interest in machine tools and bad check writing do not seem to go together. What, no one around here remembers Babin? jk |
#51
|
|||
|
|||
In article , jk says...
Exactly. Interest in machine tools and bad check writing do not seem to go together. What, no one around here remembers Babin? jk Heh. It's not clear he knew how to write... Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
#52
|
|||
|
|||
|
#53
|
|||
|
|||
AVG Free Edition is the well-known anti-virus protection tool. AVG Free is
available free-of-charge to home users for the life of the product! Rapid virus database updates are available for the lifetime of the product, thereby providing the high-level of detection capability that millions of users around the world trust to protect their computers. AVG Free is easy-to-use and will not slow your system down (low system resource requirements). http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5 "Charles A. Sherwood" wrote: AVG antivirus is good, free, and very configurable. www.grisoft.com only free for the first month. |
#54
|
|||
|
|||
I don't know about you, but MY paypal account is NOT linked to a checking
account - I would never do that. "Jon Elson" wrote in message rvers.com... yourname wrote: But my point was: how are you *risking* anything more with PayPal than you would by sending a money order, check, or cash to an eBay seller?? I consider PayPal to be much more reliable/risk free than your average random eBay seller. If you open a PayPal account, they link it to your checking account. If someone penetrates your account, they can empty out your checking account! I know people this has happened to. It is scary. Jon |
#55
|
|||
|
|||
On 17 Mar 2005 22:19:39 GMT, Charles A. Sherwood wrote:
AVG antivirus is good, free, and very configurable. www.grisoft.com only free for the first month. Hm? From the main page, "AVG Free Edition" on the left panel, takes you a page which says, among other things, "AVG Free Edition is for private, non-commercial, single home computer use only. Use of AVG Free Edition within any organization or for commercial purposes is strictly prohibited. Your use of AVG Free Edition shall be in accordance with and is subject to the terms and conditions set forth in the AVG Free Edition License Agreement which accompanies AVG Free Edition." So yes, if you're using it for your own home PC, it's free. I thought that was the context we were discussing? Dave Hinz |
#56
|
|||
|
|||
I must have looked in the wrong place. Thanks for correcting me. I will try it on one of my machines. chuck AVG antivirus is good, free, and very configurable. www.grisoft.com only free for the first month. Hm? From the main page, "AVG Free Edition" on the left panel, takes you a page which says, among other things, "AVG Free Edition is for private, non-commercial, single home computer use only. Use of AVG Free Edition within any organization or for commercial purposes is strictly prohibited. Your use of AVG Free Edition shall be in accordance with and is subject to the terms and conditions set forth in the AVG Free Edition License Agreement which accompanies AVG Free Edition." So yes, if you're using it for your own home PC, it's free. I thought that was the context we were discussing? Dave Hinz |
#57
|
|||
|
|||
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message Scratching head.... that doesn't look right.... hmmmmm, let me try again.... http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/ebay/...l_problems.htm http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/machine_shop/index.htm I still get an error "The page cannot be displayed" for both of your links. What gives? Lane |
#58
|
|||
|
|||
Jon Elson wrote in news:33507$42392d38$4503e66a
: If you open a PayPal account, they link it to your checking account. If someone penetrates your account, they can empty out your checking account! I know people this has happened to. It is scary. You don't have to have the PayPal account linked to your checking account. They want you to do it, and they will keep pestering you to do it but you don't have to. Dan |
#59
|
|||
|
|||
Don't you have to have a linked account to sell on EBay? That is what
I understand but haven't bothered to verify yet. JohnF On 18 Mar 2005 19:28:45 GMT, Dan Murphy wrote: Jon Elson wrote in news:33507$42392d38$4503e66a : If you open a PayPal account, they link it to your checking account. If someone penetrates your account, they can empty out your checking account! I know people this has happened to. It is scary. You don't have to have the PayPal account linked to your checking account. They want you to do it, and they will keep pestering you to do it but you don't have to. Dan |
#60
|
|||
|
|||
I only had to go through a $5 "verification" process"-- to "prove that
me is me". Pete Stanaitis ---------------------------- JohnF wrote: Don't you have to have a linked account to sell on EBay? That is what I understand but haven't bothered to verify yet. JohnF On 18 Mar 2005 19:28:45 GMT, Dan Murphy wrote: Jon Elson wrote in news:33507$42392d38$4503e66a : If you open a PayPal account, they link it to your checking account. If someone penetrates your account, they can empty out your checking account! I know people this has happened to. It is scary. You don't have to have the PayPal account linked to your checking account. They want you to do it, and they will keep pestering you to do it but you don't have to. Dan |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
ebay sucks big time | UK diy | |||
Furniture design vintage carpentry | UK diy | |||
WARNING ! New ebay email scam ! Or should I say newest version of an old one | Woodturning | |||
WARNING - PHONEY EBAY E-MAIL | Woodworking | |||
eBay Scam | Metalworking |