Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know (think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club). I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it. Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes. Everybody
has one. You just read mine.

GWE

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know (think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club). I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.

Don't need KY. I'm all calloused-up. And numb.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll
"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial
compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a
few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few
bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it.
Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes.
Everybody
has one. You just read mine.

GWE

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know
(think?) I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these
direct-drive buzz boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton
from Sam's Club). I'm thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the
noise it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really
demo Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta
sight and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases!
But maybe not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote in message
...
Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know
(think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club). I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta
sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.


Pretty much what Grant said. Good compressors run slowly, which is one of
the reasons they don't make a ton of noise. I, too, own a Quincy, and
have had it for roughly 35 years. 5 horse, 3 phase, 80 gallon tank. I've
had to replace one seal and a gasket in those years. They just don't make
things like they used to! :-)

Harold

These might still be worth grabbing if they're cheap and 30-60 gallon
capacity, just look for the ASME tag on the tank.
A U.S. manufactured 150 maximum-psi rated tank is good to have if you're not
planning to plumb it to a 175 psi unit/system, or if you've got parts to
build a second compressor.
You're probably better of throwing away the failed direct drive motor and
pump, but the pressure switch, gage, check valve and pop-off may still be in
good condition.

WB
....................

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial
compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a
few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few
bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it.
Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes.
Everybody
has one. You just read mine.

GWE

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know
(think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive
buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club).
I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the
noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta
sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But
maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll






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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial
compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a
few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few
bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it.
Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes.
Everybody
has one. You just read mine.


Grant,

I been using a campbell cast iron compressor for about 5 years in a
commercial shop, likely my service duty is at least twice double the design
rating, if not 3 X.........this meaning that it ran pretty much constantly
all the time, 40 hours/week--feeding air to 3 cnc machines same basic make /
model as the OP proposes feeding to a single machine......

I finally replaced the head unit just a few months ago, 99 bucks offa ebay.

So now you go ahead and do the math........

Only caveat is any of them will eventually foul the air valves with oil and
trash from the crank case--once the air seal is clogged on any high speed
spindle, the coolant will wash in there and and it will rapidly destroy your
spindle bearing$.......

So when his compressor starts to 'consume oil', he simply needs to get a new
head unit or at least replace the rings....

--

SVL

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:34:58 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.


Ayup..I run into all manner of commercial air compressors here in
California darned cheap. My old DeVilbis twin single stage was made
around 1963 and is just now starting to clank ever so softly. 60
gallon tank.
Ill be bringing home a I-R this weekend. 2 stage, 7 hp 3ph motor which
will be replaced by a 5hp 240 single phase. It cost me a 6 pack of
Heinikans(SP) and a couple packs of 555 cigarettes. It was gone
through about a year ago but they replaced it with a screw
compressor.. 100 gallon tank

Gunner

----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll
"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial
compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a
few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few
bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it.
Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes.
Everybody
has one. You just read mine.

GWE

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know
(think?) I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these
direct-drive buzz boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton
from Sam's Club). I'm thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the
noise it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really
demo Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta
sight and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases!
But maybe not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll


Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
...

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial
compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a
few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few
bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it.
Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes.
Everybody
has one. You just read mine.


Grant,

I been using a campbell cast iron compressor for about 5 years in a
commercial shop, likely my service duty is at least twice double the
design
rating, if not 3 X.........this meaning that it ran pretty much constantly
all the time, 40 hours/week--feeding air to 3 cnc machines same basic make
/
model as the OP proposes feeding to a single machine......

I finally replaced the head unit just a few months ago, 99 bucks offa
ebay.

So now you go ahead and do the math........

Only caveat is any of them will eventually foul the air valves with oil
and
trash from the crank case--once the air seal is clogged on any high speed
spindle, the coolant will wash in there and and it will rapidly destroy
your
spindle bearing$.......

So when his compressor starts to 'consume oil', he simply needs to get a
new
head unit or at least replace the rings....

--

SVL

Our local IR dealer sets up the IR T30 5 hp with a 3 hp motor on a different
pulley, slowing down the pump speed which should reduce oil carry-over. They
use this setup for compressors supplying pneumatic control systems,
accompanied by appropriate filters and a refrigerated dryer. It's a more
rugged setup than the Speedaire climate control air compressors.

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:34:58 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at
least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.


Ayup..I run into all manner of commercial air compressors here in
California darned cheap. My old DeVilbis twin single stage was made
around 1963 and is just now starting to clank ever so softly. 60
gallon tank.
Ill be bringing home a I-R this weekend. 2 stage, 7 hp 3ph motor which
will be replaced by a 5hp 240 single phase.

Why not run it on a VFD?

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:47:02 -0800, Grant Erwin
wrote:

If you buy a POS Husky or Sears (or Campbell-Hausfeld, or Coleman, or
Tinkertoy for that matter) you will feel like your own nickname. And not
even any K-Y. These little consumer-grade air compressors are ALL loud,
run hot, vibrate, don't live up to their specs, and are short-lived. In
the last 3 months I've seen 2 dead Craftsman "5 hp" air compressors at
yard sales people were trying to give away. Both still shiny.

Forget ebay. Look in your local classifieds. I see old industrial compressors
*all* *the* *time* for $500 or less, real workhorses. I picked one up a few
years ago, an old Quincy 2-stage unit I paid $100 for, and I put a few bucks
into it and it's run perfectly ever since. It replaced a 1.5hp Sanborn
contractor's 2-wheel type, and the Quincy is MUCH quieter than the little
Sanborn was. I run it off of 240 single phase, by the way (that was what
the bucks were for, I swapped it from 440 3 phase to 240 single phase).

My advice is guaranteed. To be worth exactly what you paid for it. Referring
once again to your "peevee" nickname, opinions are like a**holes. Everybody
has one. You just read mine.

GWE

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know (think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club). I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll


What Grant says. I use a two cylinder Speedair. I don't know who makes
the pumps for Dayton but they make good ones. Small, but plenty for my
shop. The first pump died after twenty years of almost daily use, It
failed because I didn't break in the new rings correctly. It was still
pumping when I replaced the rings, but a little oil was being used and
I don't like oil in my air.
ERS

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:37:52 -0500, "ATP*" wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:34:58 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at
least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.


Ayup..I run into all manner of commercial air compressors here in
California darned cheap. My old DeVilbis twin single stage was made
around 1963 and is just now starting to clank ever so softly. 60
gallon tank.
Ill be bringing home a I-R this weekend. 2 stage, 7 hp 3ph motor which
will be replaced by a 5hp 240 single phase.

Why not run it on a VFD?

How much does a 7hp VFD cost?
If its more than pocket change....it aint in the cards.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Look at:
http://www.industrialgold.com/new_page_4.htm

I obtained one of these over a year ago and have
been exceptionally pleased. I already had a
120 gallon tank. Bought the compressor and a
7.5 Leeson Industrial motor at a very, very
reasonable price from Rex at North Central Air
in Downs, Kansas.

North Central Air
619 Morgan
Downs, KS 67437
785-454-3409

This is a hoss of a dual stage compressor
complete with head pressure relief. Runs
slow and quiet but with high CFM. sdh.

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know (think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club). I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:37:52 -0500, "ATP*" wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:34:58 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I
know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at
least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.


Ayup..I run into all manner of commercial air compressors here in
California darned cheap. My old DeVilbis twin single stage was made
around 1963 and is just now starting to clank ever so softly. 60
gallon tank.
Ill be bringing home a I-R this weekend. 2 stage, 7 hp 3ph motor which
will be replaced by a 5hp 240 single phase.

Why not run it on a VFD?

How much does a 7hp VFD cost?
If its more than pocket change....it aint in the cards.

Gunner

I couldn't find a 5 HP single phase motor cheap, either. If I had one that's
what I would have done.

"ATP*" wrote in message
...

Our local IR dealer sets up the IR T30 5 hp with a 3 hp motor on a
different
pulley, slowing down the pump speed which should reduce oil carry-over.
They
use this setup for compressors supplying pneumatic control systems,
accompanied by appropriate filters and a refrigerated dryer. It's a more
rugged setup than the Speedaire climate control air compressors.


So long as it has a pressurized lube system I spose that should be okay

But I'm pretty sure doing that to a machine having a slinger or dippers
would probly be ill advised.

--

SVL

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
...

"ATP*" wrote in message
...

Our local IR dealer sets up the IR T30 5 hp with a 3 hp motor on a
different
pulley, slowing down the pump speed which should reduce oil carry-over.
They
use this setup for compressors supplying pneumatic control systems,
accompanied by appropriate filters and a refrigerated dryer. It's a more
rugged setup than the Speedaire climate control air compressors.


So long as it has a pressurized lube system I spose that should be okay

But I'm pretty sure doing that to a machine having a slinger or dippers
would probly be ill advised.

They claim it's what IR does when they build climate control compressors.

Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:


Pretty much what Grant said. Good compressors run slowly, which is one of
the reasons they don't make a ton of noise. I, too, own a Quincy, and
have had it for roughly 35 years. 5 horse, 3 phase, 80 gallon tank. I've
had to replace one seal and a gasket in those years. They just don't make
things like they used to! :-)


Yup, that's the truth. I picked up a badly beaten Quincy 2-cyl 2-3 Hp
single-stage
compressor at a scrap yard. It had pneumatic unloader controls, and the
1 Hp motor
ran continuously. I rigged up electronic dual-mode controls for it, and
upped the motor
to 2 Hp, and changed the pulley. Amazingly, it ran QUIETER! (Turning
at 450
RPM, the intake valves were bouncing, when I upped the speed to 910 RPM
the valves operated cleanly.) Even though it had been beaten up a bit,
I just
put on a new safety relief, new inlet filter and tightened the fittings
for the unloaders,
and it has run fine for a couple of years. I think it was made about
1968, and used
by the phone company to run wire wrap tools or something like that. The
thing
probably has 10,000 to 25,000 hours of rotation on it, and probably has
never
been rebuilt!

Jon

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:01:52 -0500, "ATP*" wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:37:52 -0500, "ATP*" wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:34:58 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I
know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at
least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.


Ayup..I run into all manner of commercial air compressors here in
California darned cheap. My old DeVilbis twin single stage was made
around 1963 and is just now starting to clank ever so softly. 60
gallon tank.
Ill be bringing home a I-R this weekend. 2 stage, 7 hp 3ph motor which
will be replaced by a 5hp 240 single phase.

Why not run it on a VFD?

How much does a 7hp VFD cost?
If its more than pocket change....it aint in the cards.

Gunner

I couldn't find a 5 HP single phase motor cheap, either. If I had one that's
what I would have done.


I can get 5hp single phase motors for pocket change G

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

I think they still make Quincys...I hope to buy a new one when one of my
three are irreparable in 2145.


"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote in message
...
Awl--

Can't afford Kellogg or Ing Rand, or anything fancy or 2-stage, so I'm
looking at Husky at Home Depot, or some of the Sears stuff. I know
(think?)
I want a belt-driven oil compressor, as opposed to these direct-drive
buzz
boxes (I got one--will drive you crazy--a $99 Alton from Sam's Club).
I'm
thinking 26 gal vertical.

My main concern is noise. The Kellogg at my old shop was a great big
lub-dub workhorse, decades old, pretty quiet for it's size. And the
noise
it did make was didn't penetrate your bones. But you can't really demo
Sears or HD compressors.

No problem going used on a good brand, but ebay is just becoming outta
sight
and useless. Actually cheaper to buy Sears new, in many cases! But
maybe
not better.

Any comments on various brands, noise, reliability? Any other issues
(besides cfm, etc.)? TIA.


Pretty much what Grant said. Good compressors run slowly, which is one of
the reasons they don't make a ton of noise. I, too, own a Quincy, and
have had it for roughly 35 years. 5 horse, 3 phase, 80 gallon tank.
I've
had to replace one seal and a gasket in those years. They just don't make
things like they used to! :-)

Harold

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:01:52 -0500, "ATP*" wrote:


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"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:34:58 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
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Appreciate the info.
Even the Sears et al *oil* compressors are crappy and unreliable?? I
know
the oil-less ones are miserable, but I was hoping the oil would be at
least
passable.

Will check out the classifieds. "Pennysaver" over here.


Ayup..I run into all manner of commercial air compressors here in
California darned cheap. My old DeVilbis twin single stage was made
around 1963 and is just now starting to clank ever so softly. 60
gallon tank.
Ill be bringing home a I-R this weekend. 2 stage, 7 hp 3ph motor which
will be replaced by a 5hp 240 single phase.

Why not run it on a VFD?

How much does a 7hp VFD cost?
If its more than pocket change....it aint in the cards.

Gunner

I couldn't find a 5 HP single phase motor cheap, either. If I had one
that's
what I would have done.


I can get 5hp single phase motors for pocket change G

That's good. Single phase is hard to come by for me in that size. I also
figured the VFD's ramped start might be better WRT dimming the lights.