I suspect you got a bad one...and suspect that what every valve you think is
broken, may be a bad one and is probably not an inherent problem. I think
the bigger problem with these direct drive compressors is the Oil-less
design. Some direct drives use oil.


"Renata" wrote in message
...
Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?

I've got a 4gal, oil-less, double hot dog (sorry, don't know the
technical terms) extreme duty, contractor grade, blah, blah, blah unit
that hasn't been used very much at all. But, the check valve seems to
be busted (based on symptoms and web site description - item #5 under
technical support). I'm in the middle of a job, deperately trying to
finish and the thing craps out (after very few hours of use). Gonna
take it in for service or return, but just wondering about reputation
(it broke so fast I suspect it's a defect; the other question is, have
they fixed the design so that it doesn't recur).

THanx
Renata

I got a 20 gallon, 5hp belt drive on wheels when I built my house 6
years ago. It had a problem with the release valve a year ago, replaced
it ($15) and it still running great. I think is finally getting broken
in, runs better now (read less noise) then ever. Good value. That
said, I have CH impact driver and it does just enough for me that I
don't through it away; I don't think that comes as a surpise to anyone
and not me either.



Renata wrote:
Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?

I've got a 4gal, oil-less, double hot dog (sorry, don't know the
technical terms) extreme duty, contractor grade, blah, blah, blah unit
that hasn't been used very much at all. But, the check valve seems to
be busted (based on symptoms and web site description - item #5 under
technical support). I'm in the middle of a job, deperately trying to
finish and the thing craps out (after very few hours of use). Gonna
take it in for service or return, but just wondering about reputation
(it broke so fast I suspect it's a defect; the other question is, have
they fixed the design so that it doesn't recur).

THanx
Renata

Personally, I wouldn't buy an oil-less. I view them as more of a disposable
compressor. As with most tools the more you spend the better the tool
"Renata" wrote in message
...
Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?

I've got a 4gal, oil-less, double hot dog (sorry, don't know the
technical terms) extreme duty, contractor grade, blah, blah, blah unit
that hasn't been used very much at all. But, the check valve seems to
be busted (based on symptoms and web site description - item #5 under
technical support). I'm in the middle of a job, deperately trying to
finish and the thing craps out (after very few hours of use). Gonna
take it in for service or return, but just wondering about reputation
(it broke so fast I suspect it's a defect; the other question is, have
they fixed the design so that it doesn't recur).

THanx
Renata

I avoid them whenever possible. I bought a Husky (made by Campbell
Hausfeld) 26 gal oil-lube compressor last year that had a leaking weld which
was clearly not caused by shipping damage. There is no excuse for something
like that to leave the factory.

I have campbell hausfeld 1 hp.....direct drive with a 20 gal. tank for
years....works good, but you need to use a 20 amp circuit, because if its a
little cold out, it will trip the breaker every time. And most of the time
i,m in the garage n the breaker is down in the basement. So, I make sure i
use the shop outlets...20 amp. Mine is oil-less....runs my air-guns
fine.....finish, brad, and staple nailer. Wish it was quieter too. But, its
on wheels n I got my money`s worth alrerady.....must be 10 yrs. old
now....One of these days maybe i`ll get a bigger one.....
Leon wrote in message
. ..
I suspect you got a bad one...and suspect that what every valve you think
is
broken, may be a bad one and is probably not an inherent problem. I
think
the bigger problem with these direct drive compressors is the Oil-less
design. Some direct drives use oil.


"Renata" wrote in message
...
Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?

I've got a 4gal, oil-less, double hot dog (sorry, don't know the
technical terms) extreme duty, contractor grade, blah, blah, blah unit
that hasn't been used very much at all. But, the check valve seems to
be busted (based on symptoms and web site description - item #5 under
technical support). I'm in the middle of a job, deperately trying to
finish and the thing craps out (after very few hours of use). Gonna
take it in for service or return, but just wondering about reputation
(it broke so fast I suspect it's a defect; the other question is, have
they fixed the design so that it doesn't recur).

THanx
Renata

Go oil, it will be much quieter..

"Renata" wrote in message
...
Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?

I've got a 4gal, oil-less, double hot dog (sorry, don't know the
technical terms) extreme duty, contractor grade, blah, blah, blah unit
that hasn't been used very much at all. But, the check valve seems to
be busted (based on symptoms and web site description - item #5 under
technical support). I'm in the middle of a job, deperately trying to
finish and the thing craps out (after very few hours of use). Gonna
take it in for service or return, but just wondering about reputation
(it broke so fast I suspect it's a defect; the other question is, have
they fixed the design so that it doesn't recur).

THanx
Renata

I got nearly 10 years out of my first CH (same description as yours - w/
black tanks) doing construction day-in, day-out. The only problem was the
trail of ballbearings it left behind on the last day I not have the new
improved iron-fortified model (yellow now) - it has a bum switch but works
like a champ.

I stopped by a compressor repair facility a while back and asked one of
the technicians/repair guys his impressions of the various brands based
upon cost, repair frequency, ect. He said he would buy a CH oiler.
Cheers, JG

Renata wrote:

Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?

I've got a 4gal, oil-less, double hot dog (sorry, don't know the
technical terms) extreme duty, contractor grade, blah, blah, blah unit
that hasn't been used very much at all. But, the check valve seems to
be busted (based on symptoms and web site description - item #5 under
technical support). I'm in the middle of a job, deperately trying to
finish and the thing craps out (after very few hours of use). Gonna
take it in for service or return, but just wondering about reputation
(it broke so fast I suspect it's a defect; the other question is, have
they fixed the design so that it doesn't recur).

THanx
Renata

"mat" wrote in message .ca...
Personally, I wouldn't buy an oil-less. I view them as more of a disposable
compressor. As with most tools the more you spend the better the tool

Why? I think you've got it backwards. In case you haven't heard,
petroleum oil makes a decent lubricant

I just got a 10-year old oil-lube belt drive 3.5HP 15-gal for $60.
Works like a champ.

Might want to reread his statement.



"Mike Reed" wrote in message
om...
"mat" wrote in message
.ca...
Personally, I wouldn't buy an oil-less. I view them as more of a
disposable
compressor. As with most tools the more you spend the better the tool

Why? I think you've got it backwards. In case you haven't heard,
petroleum oil makes a decent lubricant

I just got a 10-year old oil-lube belt drive 3.5HP 15-gal for $60.
Works like a champ.

That is the one I would get if I used it daily in the field.


"Renata" wrote in message
...
Thanx for the input so far.

Next question.

Guy at the service center told me that he'd recommend Emglo based on
numbers brought in for service. But, DeWalt now owns Emglo - so is
the quality still up to par? Looking at an Emglo oiled model, 2.5 HP,
4gal., single tank.

Thanx
Renata

Renata,

Similar story: I too have the CH 4 gal, 3 hp (yeah, right), 'Extreme
Duty' Contractor Series compressor...same as yours. The check valve
crapped-out about 1 month ago after having owned and used (sparingly)
for 1 year.

Interesting side: I bought it at The Despot, mostly due to the fact
that is was marked down from $260 to $210 (sold out of box as
returned/reconditioned). For a compressor of that size and price to
be putting out 6+ SCFM at 90psi, I thought it was a steal and since, I
have not come across any other brand that states similar volume for
less. Since purchasing that unit, I have seen another unit (exact
same model) on the floor at HD, out of the box, for the same price.

Conclusion: That particular model compressor by CH has a faulty check
valve that fails frequently. Most get returned, you and I own the
other 2.




(Renata) wrote in message ...
Thanx for the input so far.

Next question.

Guy at the service center told me that he'd recommend Emglo based on
numbers brought in for service. But, DeWalt now owns Emglo - so is
the quality still up to par? Looking at an Emglo oiled model, 2.5 HP,
4gal., single tank.

Thanx
Renata

I managed to pick up a little-used CH for $free. What gets me is the size of
the outlet pipe. It smaller than the size recommended for my tools. I can't
remember the sizes now, its a long way away. Seems the outlet is only 1/4"
and I use 3/8" fittings and hoses, just like my tools need.

M Hamlin
"Peyton" wrote in message
om...
Renata,

Similar story: I too have the CH 4 gal, 3 hp (yeah, right), 'Extreme
Duty' Contractor Series compressor...same as yours. The check valve
crapped-out about 1 month ago after having owned and used (sparingly)
for 1 year.

Renata wrote:
Group: rec.woodworking Date: Tue, Jul 15, 2003, 12:30pm (EDT+4) From:
(Renata)
Are there any known problems with quality with this particular brand?
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I have had a CH compressor for about 10 years. The cast iron compressor
(oil in crankcase) and the motor are excellent. All of the control
components, i.e., pressure regulator, unloader, on-off switch, etc., are
very cheaply made and part of an integrated plastic assembly. I have had
to replace this once at a price of $60.00. They have no in-house
customer service department, When you call their 800 number you get a
computer voice that directs you to their nearest service shop, according
to your zip code, which is many miles away in my case. I will say that
when I called this shop the person was quite knowlegeable. But it cost
me a toll call and a 100 mile roundtrip drive to get a new pressure
relief valve which leaked. I also replaced the drain cock, which was the
type used on automobile radiators and impossible to open, with a ball
valve that has a handle on it. When the next part fails I will buy
another make of air compressor.
Peace ~ Sir Edgar
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"Leon" wrote in message m...
Might want to reread his statement.

You might want to reread mine. I was responding to the part about
"wouldn't buy oiless" and "disposable compressor."

You see, the conversation could go like this:

mat: "Personally, I wouldn't buy an oil-less. I view them as more of a
disposable compressor"

Mike Reed: "Why? I think you've got it backwards. In case you haven't
heard, petroleum oil makes a decent lubricant "


-Mike




"Mike Reed" wrote in message
om...
"mat" wrote in message
.ca...
Personally, I wouldn't buy an oil-less. I view them as more of a
disposable
compressor. As with most tools the more you spend the better the tool

Why? I think you've got it backwards. In case you haven't heard,
petroleum oil makes a decent lubricant

I just got a 10-year old oil-lube belt drive 3.5HP 15-gal for $60.
Works like a champ.

"Mike Reed" wrote in message
om...
"Leon" wrote in message
m...
Might want to reread his statement.

You might want to reread mine. I was responding to the part about
"wouldn't buy oiless" and "disposable compressor."

You see, the conversation could go like this:

mat: "Personally, I wouldn't buy an oil-less. I view them as more of a
disposable compressor"


I guess I still miss your point... he said, he would not buy oil-less.
Meaning that he would only buy a oil lubricated compressor.

You seem to indicate also that the oil type would be the way to go, as he
does.

"Leon" wrote in message gy.com...
I guess I still miss your point... he said, he would not buy oil-less.
Meaning that he would only buy a oil lubricated compressor.

You seem to indicate also that the oil type would be the way to go, as he
does.

Ok, I'm a retard. I read it as "oil-lubed," not "oil-less." Once my
brain sees something one way, I guess I don't really look at it
closely again.

lol

my bad

Been there, done that ;~)


"Mike Reed" wrote in message
om...
"Leon" wrote in message
gy.com...
I guess I still miss your point... he said, he would not buy oil-less.
Meaning that he would only buy a oil lubricated compressor.

You seem to indicate also that the oil type would be the way to go, as
he
does.

Ok, I'm a retard. I read it as "oil-lubed," not "oil-less." Once my
brain sees something one way, I guess I don't really look at it
closely again.

lol

my bad