Ignoramus4718 wrote:

I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to
create problems later.

i


Healthy diet (avoid foods you're allergic to as well)
Run offroad (dirt, grass, sand, etc)
Good running shoes.
Ride a bicycle.

ff

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:07:04 +0000, Ignoramus4718 wrote:

I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to
create problems later.

i

Install zerk fittings and grease 'em every 3000 miles or 3 months ;-)

I wish that were possible, my left knee has been causing me grief since I
was 12 (I turned 41 today). Someday, I'll probably need to get it
replaced.

Someone mentioned avoiding foods your allergic to - that's sound advice,
food allergies can cause arthritis like symptoms.

-Ron

ff wrote:
Ignoramus4718 wrote:

I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to
create problems later.

i


Healthy diet (avoid foods you're allergic to as well)
Run offroad (dirt, grass, sand, etc)
Good running shoes.
Ride a bicycle.

ff

Drink more water (water is your body's wonder fluid; it is used in
cooling, circulation, lubrication of joints, digestion) not enough of
water causes so many problems

You can use supplements to help you with your joints, I used the
following when I was taking Kung Fu because my knees were hurting:
Glucosamine Sulfate
Chondroitin Sulfate
Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
I switched to Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu and my knees stopped hurting (I
haven't had to use any of those supplements since)

I've also heard that Fish Oil (get high quality stuff or you get fish
tasting burps) will also help.

You may also want to examine what you do in a typical day to determine
if one or more of your activities are causing you problems (adding
rubber mats to your shop floor will making a huge difference).
Ken

On 8 Jan 2005 19:07:04 GMT, Ignoramus4718
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I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?


Certain exercises to strengthen the muscles that support them, and
possibly to give non-impact exercise to the cartilage. Water.
Glucosamine and condroitin can't do any harm (except to your pocket?)

Interesting comment about water. I have had one knee give way, and had
old Arthur Oscope dig in there. Water definitely helps with my knees.

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to
create problems later.

The above sentence is probably oxymoronic in nature.

Seriously. You will minimise damage by various means. But activity and
heredity will be the big deciders. Very few heavy (as in frequent)
runners don't get trouble. Those who don't are lucky.

If you are worried because you already have pain in your knees, then
you are in trouble. Swim? Cycle?

IN the end you should talk to people that you can sue later when their
advice is wrong! G

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Ignoramus4718 wrote:

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:23:40 GMT, Ron DeBlock wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:07:04 +0000, Ignoramus4718 wrote:

I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to
create problems later.

i

Install zerk fittings and grease 'em every 3000 miles or 3 months ;-)

I wish that were possible, my left knee has been causing me grief since I
was 12 (I turned 41 today). Someday, I'll probably need to get it
replaced.

Someone mentioned avoiding foods your allergic to - that's sound advice,
food allergies can cause arthritis like symptoms.

The suggestion that allergy is linked to it is interesting and
fascinating.

i

If you want to avoid or fix arthritus, bee stings do a good job. OTOH,
if you are really alergic to bee stings (very rare) you are immune to
arthritus.

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Besides surgery, what can be done for a torn rotator cuff and bone
splinters in shoulder and in elbow?

I have all three on the right side. Ruined my dart game for one
issue...

Gunner

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better,
on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
but why this is more stylish than
sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
-- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:27:00 +0000, Ignoramus4718 wrote:

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:23:40 GMT, Ron DeBlock wrote:

Install zerk fittings and grease 'em every 3000 miles or 3 months ;-)

I wish that were possible, my left knee has been causing me grief since
I was 12 (I turned 41 today). Someday, I'll probably need to get it
replaced.

Someone mentioned avoiding foods your allergic to - that's sound advice,
food allergies can cause arthritis like symptoms.

The suggestion that allergy is linked to it is interesting and
fascinating.

I think it is pretty well agreed that arthritis, in all of its forms, is
an auto-immune disease in that the body attacks the connective tissue in
the joints. In one sense the body becomes allergic to itself. Figuring out
exactly why that happens and how to stop it is a whole nother matter.

--
The instructions said to use Windows 98 or better, so I installed RedHat.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:07:04 +0000, Ignoramus4718 wrote:

I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to create
problems later.

Switch from running to walking. I've been told that the physical exercise
of walking one or more miles a day is as good, if not better, than running
for cardio-vascular health. The logic is that one can walk (briskly) for a
much greater distance than the average person can run. This results in a
longer period of moderate stress on the muscles and circulatory system,
which causes them to grow to handle the stress. An analogy would be
lifing weights for an hour or laying concrete blocks all day. The weight
lifter sees a higher peak stress (but for a much shorter time), but the
mason does a greater amount of work and he'll wind up in better shape.

I don't know if they all feel this way, but an acquaintance that's an
orthopaedic surgeon doesn't think much of runners. Although he does admit
that they are a good source of vacation and toy money.

--
The instructions said to use Windows 98 or better, so I installed RedHat.

If you are seriously concerned about joint or skeletal problems,
go ahead and follow all the good suggestions here ... and do
one more thing ... find yourself a good massage therapist.

Licensed massage therapists are to found all over the country.
They are often licensed by the state you live in. George Burns
(who lived to be 100) received a full massage each week.

Read up on Swedish Massage Therapy -- you might find it worthwhile.

- Best,
Carl

"Ignoramus4718" wrote in message
...
I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

My main concern is that I like to ru na lot, but do not want it to
create problems later.

i

"Jim Levie" wrote: (clip) I think it is pretty well agreed that arthritis,
in all of its forms, is an auto-immune disease in that the body attacks the
connective tissue in the joints. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is true of rheumatoid arthritis. Osteoarthritis (which my doctor calls
"wear and tear arthritis") is a breakdown of the cushion which separates the
joint surfaces.

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:54:55 -0500, "ATP"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Licensed massage therapists are to found all over the country.
They are often licensed by the state you live in. George Burns
(who lived to be 100) received a full massage each week.

with a happy ending?

Wasn't it George that was into cigars? Oh no. That was Bill...G

Ignoramus4718 wrote:
snip

Thanks. The reason why I am so interested in it is this: I had knee
pain for years, that ceased completely when I stopped eating grains
and other carby things. I can now run daily with no knee problems. I
used to not be able to run more than 2x per week.

i

I did something similar, did you notice that you had to drink more water?
Ken

:-)
Yes, George Burns did enjoy his cigars. Thing was, the massage therapy
kept him quite limber -- remember he did the two "God" flicks with John
Denver when he was pretty well on.

They do improve your circulation, muscle tone, and skeletal strength.
As much as I *love* exercise, I'm after a heart attack and still on the
good side of 60, so I'll take the massage over the cigars ... always was
a pipe man ... oh well.

Cheers,
Carl

"Old Nick" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:54:55 -0500, "ATP"
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Licensed massage therapists are to found all over the country.
They are often licensed by the state you live in. George Burns
(who lived to be 100) received a full massage each week.

with a happy ending?

Wasn't it George that was into cigars? Oh no. That was Bill...G

today i have a case of the gout it hurts like
hell... gotta go to the doc for pills

I was just talking to a client yesterday about the times he used to have
gout. Really had a problem with it until someone told him to get some
Bing cherries. Apparently a nutrishional content offsets what causes
gout. In three hours, he could tell the difference and soon had no
problem with it at all.
Respectfully,
Ron Moore
Good Luck

HaroldA102 wrote:
today i have a case of the gout it hurts like
hell... gotta go to the doc for pills

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:08:53 -0500, Ken Vale
wrote:

ff wrote:
Ignoramus4718 wrote:

I am curious, what could one do to prevent "wearing out" of the knees?

Drink more water (water is your body's wonder fluid; it is used in
cooling, circulation, lubrication of joints, digestion) not enough of
water causes so many problems

You can use supplements to help you with your joints, I used the
following when I was taking Kung Fu because my knees were hurting:
Glucosamine Sulfate
Chondroitin Sulfate
Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
I switched to Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu and my knees stopped hurting (I
haven't had to use any of those supplements since)

I've also heard that Fish Oil (get high quality stuff or you get fish
tasting burps) will also help.

You may also want to examine what you do in a typical day to determine
if one or more of your activities are causing you problems (adding
rubber mats to your shop floor will making a huge difference).
Ken

I was going to respond, but Ken said everything for me. My knees were
creaky for many years, but glucosamine and MSM took care of that in
short order. They've been fine for many years, now.

I might add one more thing: make sure your weight is what it should
be. Many people I know who have bad knees are carrying far too much
excess cargo.

Regards,

Orrin