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I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the
garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W |
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The usual method is to get a couple of sheets of plywood and lay one
down, roll the machine along it, place the next one down and roll the machine onto it, trot around and grab the first one and carry it round front, etc. Grant BW wrote: I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W |
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![]() Karen Story wrote: The usual method is to get a couple of sheets of plywood and lay one down, roll the machine along it, place the next one down and roll the machine onto it, trot around and grab the first one and carry it round front, etc. Right! The only tricky part will be to keep the rollers from dropping down between the plywood sheets. Having the sheets run at an angle to the direction of motion would be a big help. If the ground is really soft, you could stitch a 2x4 under each junction, and it would just push into the earth and allow the sheets to stay together. Jon |
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Jon Elson wrote: Karen Story wrote: The usual method is to get a couple of sheets of plywood and lay one down, roll the machine along it, place the next one down and roll the machine onto it, trot around and grab the first one and carry it round front, etc. Right! The only tricky part will be to keep the rollers from dropping down between the plywood sheets. Having the sheets run at an angle to the direction of motion would be a big help. If the ground is really soft, you could stitch a 2x4 under each junction, and it would just push into the earth and allow the sheets to stay together. Jon With the 2x4 you could nail the sheets so there would be no gap to drop a roller in. -- Free men own guns, slaves don't www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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The usual method is to get a couple of sheets of plywood and lay one
With the 2x4 you could nail the sheets so there would be no gap to drop a roller in. You would have a hard time moving the sheet woun"t you.Why not just put the 2nd sheet under the 1st one ? Ray |
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"BW" wrote in message ...
I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. 2 lengths of angle iron with the v upwards, supported if needed (depends on how big the angle iron is, how soft the ground is) with scrap timber crossties. Then you can either lube the rails & bar the base along, or use rollers as per flat ground. Done this myself, it works quite well. Assumes the ground is reasonably flat/level of course. PDW |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:59:08 -0400, "BW"
wrote: I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W Two sheets of 3/4" plywood. Lay the far one under the one the mill is on. Push to the new sheet, remove the old one, pry up the far end, stick the new sheet under the one the mill is on, move to this sheet and repeat. Takes more time to explain than to do. Gunner "In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman Liebmann |
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 03:04:21 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:59:08 -0400, "BW" wrote: I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W Two sheets of 3/4" plywood. Lay the far one under the one the mill is on. Push to the new sheet, remove the old one, pry up the far end, stick the new sheet under the one the mill is on, move to this sheet and repeat. Takes more time to explain than to do. Gunner If I can't come up with three sheets I look to zenith. The plywood prices are terrible . I use to get large counter tops from dumpster diving. Their particle board , but 3/4 and laminated on the other side. After 911 everyone seemed to stop making major screw ups. I'm sure NAFTA didn't help. |
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Jon Elson wrote:
Karen Story wrote: The usual method is to get a couple of sheets of plywood and lay one down, roll the machine along it, place the next one down and roll the machine onto it, trot around and grab the first one and carry it round front, etc. Right! The only tricky part will be to keep the rollers from dropping down between the plywood sheets. Having the sheets run at an angle to the direction of motion would be a big help. If the ground is really soft, you could stitch a 2x4 under each junction, and it would just push into the earth and allow the sheets to stay together. Just "underlap" the ends of the plywood. -jc- |
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Where are you located? I've got this new knuckle-boom I'm itchin' to
try out and my wife says I can't lift her car up with it! james, Port Orchard (seattle), Washington, USA, Earth On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:09:26 -0700, Sunworshipper wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 03:04:21 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:59:08 -0400, "BW" wrote: I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W Two sheets of 3/4" plywood. Lay the far one under the one the mill is on. Push to the new sheet, remove the old one, pry up the far end, stick the new sheet under the one the mill is on, move to this sheet and repeat. Takes more time to explain than to do. Gunner If I can't come up with three sheets I look to zenith. The plywood prices are terrible . I use to get large counter tops from dumpster diving. Their particle board , but 3/4 and laminated on the other side. After 911 everyone seemed to stop making major screw ups. I'm sure NAFTA didn't help. |
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Sorry, I am in Massachusetts.
The plywood sounds good. I've got the base on a new skid that I built and I'll get the plywood today and give it a go. Thanks, BW "RainLover" wrote in message ... Where are you located? I've got this new knuckle-boom I'm itchin' to try out and my wife says I can't lift her car up with it! james, Port Orchard (seattle), Washington, USA, Earth On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:09:26 -0700, Sunworshipper wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 03:04:21 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:59:08 -0400, "BW" wrote: I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W Two sheets of 3/4" plywood. Lay the far one under the one the mill is on. Push to the new sheet, remove the old one, pry up the far end, stick the new sheet under the one the mill is on, move to this sheet and repeat. Takes more time to explain than to do. Gunner If I can't come up with three sheets I look to zenith. The plywood prices are terrible . I use to get large counter tops from dumpster diving. Their particle board , but 3/4 and laminated on the other side. After 911 everyone seemed to stop making major screw ups. I'm sure NAFTA didn't help. |
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 04:51:40 -0700, RainLover
wrote: Where are you located? I've got this new knuckle-boom I'm itchin' to try out and my wife says I can't lift her car up with it! Is that Can't (as in 'NO, and that's FINAL!'), or Can't (as in 'You don't have the proper straps, rigging and spreader bars yet, you might scratch the paint Honey Dear...')? If it was the second answer, does she have a single sister? ;-P -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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RainLover wrote:
Where are you located? I've got this new knuckle-boom I'm itchin' to try out and my wife says I can't lift her car up with it! Come on over to Issaquah! I'm moving in about a month and I've got a lathe that prolly weighs more than your wife's car that needs to be stuffed into a truck or something.. Oh, and here's the secret phrase you must learn in dealing with your wife on these matters: "Hey, what can go wrong?!" Sometimes, this is followed shortly thereafter with another magical, secret phrase: "Hey, who knew?!" ;-) -- Doug http://www.des.indianchief.com/index.htm |
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 16:13:15 GMT, Doug Smith
wrote: RainLover wrote: Where are you located? I've got this new knuckle-boom I'm itchin' to try out and my wife says I can't lift her car up with it! Come on over to Issaquah! I'm moving in about a month and I've got a lathe that prolly weighs more than your wife's car that needs to be stuffed into a truck or something.. Oh, and here's the secret phrase you must learn in dealing with your wife on these matters: "Hey, what can go wrong?!" Sometimes, this is followed shortly thereafter with another magical, secret phrase: "Hey, who knew?!" ;-) "hey, hold my beer and watch this!" Gunner "In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman Liebmann |
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Gunner wrote:
"hey, hold my beer and watch this!" NO! Never give up yer beer! Nothing good can come of this. I once fell down an entire flight of stairs without spilling a drop. Got a standing ovation from an admiring crowd for that one.. Of course, I was considerably younger then. Now, I'd probably get all banged up and stuff. Still wouldn't spill any beer tho.. They can take my beer when they can peel my cold dead fingers from around the can. ;-) -- Doug http://www.des.indianchief.com/index.htm |
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 16:13:15 GMT, Doug Smith
wrote: RainLover wrote: Where are you located? I've got this new knuckle-boom I'm itchin' to try out and my wife says I can't lift her car up with it! Come on over to Issaquah! I'm moving in about a month and I've got a lathe that prolly weighs more than your wife's car that needs to be stuffed into a truck or something.. Oh, and here's the secret phrase you must learn in dealing with your wife on these matters: "Hey, what can go wrong?!" Sometimes, this is followed shortly thereafter with another magical, secret phrase: "Hey, who knew?!" ;-) Don't tell me, you Consider the Red Green show to be a Religion? LOL I'd move it, but you'd have to pay for gas and ferry to get me there and back! What's your guess on its weight? James, Port Orchard. |
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RainLover wrote:
...snippage... Don't tell me, you Consider the Red Green show to be a Religion? LOL Heh.. I have seen that show a few times and it has always made me laugh out loud. ...snippage... I'd move it, but you'd have to pay for gas and ferry to get me there and back! What's your guess on its weight? Oh, I'd gladly pay more than that. I'm looking at a 24' truck with lift gate -- gotta see how much that lift gate can lift. If not enough (and I expect it won't be) I might just take you up on that! Weight is 3,000 lbs for the lathe. The other tools are all sub-1000 pounders and, hence, no problem even for the lift gate thang. Jeez, I kinda dread this move. What an ordeal. But the end result will be worth it.. -- Doug http://www.des.indianchief.com/index.htm |
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 06:29:27 GMT, Doug Smith
wrote: RainLover wrote: ...snippage... Don't tell me, you Consider the Red Green show to be a Religion? LOL Heh.. I have seen that show a few times and it has always made me laugh out loud. ...snippage... I'd move it, but you'd have to pay for gas and ferry to get me there and back! What's your guess on its weight? Oh, I'd gladly pay more than that. I'm looking at a 24' truck with lift gate -- gotta see how much that lift gate can lift. If not enough (and I expect it won't be) I might just take you up on that! Weight is 3,000 lbs for the lathe. The other tools are all sub-1000 pounders and, hence, no problem even for the lift gate thang. Jeez, I kinda dread this move. What an ordeal. But the end result will be worth it.. Well, I usually charge $50/hour for me and the truck (plus ferry but fuel is included) I can lift 7,000 lbs up close and I'm not sure what the knuckle boom can lift 20' out, but if I can get close enough to your equipment I should be able to pick and set it on a truck easily... if you're not moving too far, we could strap them all to my truck and make moving IN at the new place a breeze.... Think of it as being a patron of the arts since I'm just trying to help pay for the truck that moves my sculpture around... James, Port Orchard |
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Hey Doug... I got your email but " seems to be
invalid... if you send me another email, try a REAL address. :-) James, Port Orchard. On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 06:29:27 GMT, Doug Smith wrote: RainLover wrote: ...snippage... Don't tell me, you Consider the Red Green show to be a Religion? LOL Heh.. I have seen that show a few times and it has always made me laugh out loud. ...snippage... I'd move it, but you'd have to pay for gas and ferry to get me there and back! What's your guess on its weight? Oh, I'd gladly pay more than that. I'm looking at a 24' truck with lift gate -- gotta see how much that lift gate can lift. If not enough (and I expect it won't be) I might just take you up on that! Weight is 3,000 lbs for the lathe. The other tools are all sub-1000 pounders and, hence, no problem even for the lift gate thang. Jeez, I kinda dread this move. What an ordeal. But the end result will be worth it.. |
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I know .. he did that to me lately recently too. Not even a link on his
Web page .. dude does NOT like spam, can't blame him. Me, I handle putting email addy's out on the Web thusly: http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html I still get spam, though. Grant RainLover wrote: Hey Doug... I got your email but " seems to be invalid... if you send me another email, try a REAL address. :-) James, Port Orchard. On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 06:29:27 GMT, Doug Smith wrote: RainLover wrote: ...snippage... Don't tell me, you Consider the Red Green show to be a Religion? LOL Heh.. I have seen that show a few times and it has always made me laugh out loud. ...snippage... I'd move it, but you'd have to pay for gas and ferry to get me there and back! What's your guess on its weight? Oh, I'd gladly pay more than that. I'm looking at a 24' truck with lift gate -- gotta see how much that lift gate can lift. If not enough (and I expect it won't be) I might just take you up on that! Weight is 3,000 lbs for the lathe. The other tools are all sub-1000 pounders and, hence, no problem even for the lift gate thang. Jeez, I kinda dread this move. What an ordeal. But the end result will be worth it.. |
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Karen Story wrote:
I know .. he did that to me lately recently too. Not even a link on his Web page .. dude does NOT like spam, can't blame him. Sorry about that, Gentlemen. I've sent y'all properly formatted email that you can respond to if you like. And, you're right -- I *hate* spam. Not sure why, really. One of them idiosynchronous things I guess. ;-) -- Doug http://www.des.indianchief.com/index.htm |
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![]() Karen Story wrote: I know .. he did that to me lately recently too. Not even a link on his Web page .. dude does NOT like spam, can't blame him. Me, I handle putting email addy's out on the Web thusly: http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html I still get spam, though. Grant That idea looks good but I can't read all the letters in front of the @ . Needs to be a little biger or better resolution. ...lew... ( not afraid of the big bad spam) |
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Thanks for the ideas. What I finally used was 2x4 tracks. Rather than spend
the money for 3/4 ply, I made 2 sets of tracks out of old 2x4's that I had left over from a framing project. I then used 2" steel pipes under the base and moved the spare track as the base moved onto the next track. Other than having to pay close attention to keeping it centered, it worked great and the cost was minimal. "BW" wrote in message ... I finally got moved into my new house and the machines are nestled into the garage. I have to move the lathe and bridgeport into the cellar. I have a walk-in door to the basement but the problem is getting the stuff to the door. There is about 40' of grass to move the stuff over. I moved the bridgeport head and table on a skid by using rollers under it. It was quite a job. I am leery of trying to move the base the same way. Any suggestions on moving the base ? There is not enough room to get a large machine in to carry it. Thanks, Bill W |
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