On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.



http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm

Buddhism & The Soldier
Major General Ananda Weerasekera


Different people have understood Buddhism differently. It is often
debated whether Buddhism is a religion, philosophy or a way of life or
not. Since Buddhism contains all these aspects one is justified in
drawing any conclusion so long as one does not give an exclusive and
rigid title. The Buddha-dhamma (Doctrine),as most of the scholars say
, is a moral and philosophical system which expounds a unique path of
enlightenment, and is not a subject to be studied from a mere academic
standpoint. It is certainly to be studied, more to be practiced , and
above all to be realized by oneself.

All the teachings of the Buddha deal, in one way or another with the
path, known as The Noble Eightfold Path. It was the path realised and
introduced by Buddha and it is as follows.

Right views
Right thought
Right speech
Right action
Right livelihood
Right effort
Right mindfulness
Right concentration

This is also known as the 'Middle Path', since in actual practice it
avoids extremes. This Noble Eightfold Path is discussed in detail in
the Buddhist Texts. It is sufficient to

state that it is a code of conduct clearly laid down by Buddha to all
four sections of the Buddhist Society. That is Bikkhu (monks),
Bikkhuni (nuns), Upasaka (laymen), Upasika (laywomen).

The deciples of the Buddha whether men or women belong to many walks
of life from a King to a Servant. Whatever their civil status may be a
code of conduct and moral obligations for each one has been clearly
laid down by the Buddha. This code of conduct is collectively referred
to as Virtue (seela) which encompasses disciplined speech, disciplined
thought and controlled senses. A layman or a laywomen is advised to
observe the five basic precepts as the minimum limit of their
'discipline' in the society. The limits of 'seela' are different for
those who have renounced the lay life in search of liberation, The
Nirvana.

However the five precepts are not commandments but aspirations
voluntarily undertaken by each one. The first precept is to abstain
from taking life. "The life", according to Buddhism covers the entire
spectrum of living beings and are covered in 'Karaneeya Mettha Sutta'
as follows.

Tasa-Tava:- moving, unmoving
Diga-long, Mahantha-large,
Majjima-medium,
Rassaka- short,
Anuka-minute, Thula- fat
Ditta-that can be seen,
Additta-that cannot be seen,
Dure-which live far,
Avidure-which live near
Bhuta-born,
Sambavesi- seeking birth

Buddha's teachings are quite clear in regard to the extent to which
'love & compassion' should expand,. 'Sabbe satta bhavanthu
sukhitatta', ie. 'May all beings be happy' Buddha not only condemned
the destruction of living beings as higher seela, he also condemned
the destruction of the plant life. Buddhism being a 'way of life'
where plant animal and human lives are protected ,how does one explain
the 'destruction and suffering caused by war.'

War is violence, killing, destruction, blood and pain. Has Buddha
accepted these? According to Buddha, the causes of war being greed,
aversion and delusion are deep rooted in human mind. The milestones of
the path being seela, samadhi and panna make the human being realize
the causes that contribute to warfare and for the need for the
eradication of same.

The Buddha said,

All tremble at violence, All fear death,
Comparing oneself with others
One Should neither kill nor cause others to Kill' (Dammapada)

Hence any form of violence is not acceptable . He further says,
' Victory breeds hatred
The defeated live in pain,
Happily the peaceful live,
Giving up victory and defeat (Dammapada)

Victory and Defeat are two sides of the coin of War. It is clear in
Buddhism, what breeds in war whether it is victory or defeat.

Let us now deal with those having a direct involvement with War, The
King or in today's context the Government and the soldier. Does
Buddhism permit the State to build and foster an Army?. Can a good
Buddhist be a soldier? and can he kill for the sake of the country?
What about the 'Defence' of a country.? When a ruthless army invades a
country, does Buddhism prohibit a Buddhist King to defend his country
and his people? If Buddhism is a 'way of life,' is there any other way
for a righteous king to battle against an invasion of an army.?

The Damma is a way of life based on Right Thought, Right Livelihood,
Right Action etc. culminating in the supreme goal of Nibbana . However
it is a gradual process of training and progressing on the path
through one's long samsaric journey until one has fulfilled the
necessery conditions and is ready to let go the cycle of birth decay
and death. Hence, until then the King has to rule, the farmer has to
farm, teacher has to teach, the trader has to trade and so on. But
they are expected to do it the Buddhist way in order to help them
progress on the path.

In 'chakkavatti- sihanada sutta' (The Lion's Roar on the Turning of
Wheel) of the long discourses of the Buddha, Buddha justified the
requirement of the king having an Army to provide guard, protection
and security for different classes of people in the kingdom from
internal and external threats. It refers to a Wheel Turning monarch
named Dalhanemi, a righteous monarch of the law, conqueror of the four
quarters who had established the security of his realm and was
possessed of the seven treasures. He had more than 1000 sons who were
heroes, of heroic stature, conquerors of the hostile army. Explaining
the noble duties of a righteous king, Buddha also pointed out the
advice given to the king in regard to his obligation to provide
security for its people. The advisor tells the king " my son, yourself
depending on the Dhamma, revering it, doing homage to it, and
venerating it having the Dhamma as your badge and banner,
acknowledging the Dhamma as your master, you should establish guard,
ward and protection according to Dhamma for your own household, your
troops in the Army, your nobles and vassals, for Brahmins and
householders, town and countryfolk, ascetics and Brahmins, for beasts
and birds. Let no crime prevail in your kingdom"

Explaining further the duties of a righteous king, Buddha states,
"…Son, the people of your kingdom should from time to time come to you
and consult you as to what is to be followed and what is not to be
followed, what is wholesome and what not wholesome, and what action
will in the long run lead to harm and sorrow, welfare and happiness.
You should listen and tell them to avoid evil and to do what is good
for the country. This sutta clearly indicates that Buddhism permits a
king to have an army since a righteous king, who is also the commander
of the army, knows, the righteous way to engage the army and to
protect his people.

'Seeha Senapathi Sutta' of Anguttara Nikaya-5 shows how, one of the
army commanders named 'Seeha' went to Buddha to clarify certain doubts
on the Dhamma and how the Buddha advised him without requesting him to
resign from the Army or to disband the army. Having clarified his
doubts on the Dhamma, Commander Seeha requested Buddha to accept him
as a deciple of the Buddha. But Buddha instead of advising him to
resign from the army advised thus

'Seeha, it is proper for a popular person of your status to always
think and examine when attending to affairs and making decisions '
Seeha, the commander became a sotapanna (stream enterer = first fruit
of the Path) having listened to the Dhamma, but remained in the army
as a commander.

In this instance too one could see that Buddha did not advise Seeha
against the Army or being a commander of an Army, but only advised to
discharge his duties the proper way.

King Ajasattu, had a unsatiable desire to conquer other kingdoms. He
even murdered his father for the throne and aided Devadatta who was
plotting to kill the Buddha. Once Ajasattu having decided to conquer
the kingdom of Vajjians sent his chief minister Vassakara to Buddha to
find out Buddha's views about his decision to conquer the Vajjians.
Ajasttu wanted to know whether he will gain victory, cunningly using
Buddha's ability to predict the future with accuracy.

Once the usual complimentary greetings were exchanged, between the
Buddha and Vassakara and the purpose of his visit was made known,
Buddha turned to his chief attendant Venerable Ananda with praise of
the Vajjians and their noble democratic confederacy. Buddha further
inquired from Venerable Ananda whether the Vajjians are strictly
following the conditions of Dhamma NOT leading to decline as taught to
the Vajjians by Buddha to which Ven. Ananda replied 'yes'.

Then Buddha turned to venerable Ananda and declared thus, "As long as
they would continue on these lines, taught them by Buddha earlier at
Vasali, they cannot be defeated and not expected to decline but to
prosper." The shrewd minister drew his own conclusion that the
Licchavis of vajji state could not be conquered in battle at that
moment, but if their unity and alliance is broken they could be
defeated and ran back to his king with this news. In fact Ajasattu
defeated vajjians not even three years after the Buddha's death purely
by shrewdly creating disunity amongst the rulers of the Vajjians

Numerous conclusions could be drawn from this story too. Buddha knew
that both States did have strong armies and that they are needed for
the protection of their people. Buddha did not advice minister
Vassakara that the concept on 'Army' is against Buddhism and that he
should advice the king not to declare war against Vajjis but to
desolve the army. Buddha at this instance also brought up important
lessons in 'state craft.' It helped the crafty minister to adopt a
different strategy to invade Vajji State, by using psychological
approach first and then the physical assault next. Further, by having
a conversation with Venerable Ananda Buddha indicated to minister
Vassakara that even though king Ajasasattu has a mighty strong army,
and have conquered several states he will not be able to defeat
Licchavis so long as they adhere to the said noble policies. It is
also an indirect advice to king Ajatasattu that it is in order having
an army but that army will not be able to conquer people with virtuous
qualities. It was also an indication to Ajasattu that he too should be
a righteous king with an army where no other king could defeat him, by
adhering to the said policies which will not lead a society to
decline. These policies are referred to as 'saptha aparihani dhamma'
and they are as follows:

Having meetings and assemblies frequently.

Rulers assembling in harmony, conducting their affairs in harmony
and dispersing in harmony.
Adhering to the accepted ancient noble traditions and not
extirpating the accepted established norms and traditions by
introducing new laws.
Respecting the elders, worshiping them, consulting them, and
believing that they must be listened to.
Respecting and protecting the women folk and not living with them
forcibly or molesting them.
Paying respect to all internal and external places of worship,
paying homage to those worthy of veneration and continue to make
spiritual offerings traditionally done.

Soldiering was accepted by the Buddha as a noble profession.The
soldier was known as " Rajabhata." Buddha did not permit rajabata to
become monks whilst in service as a soldier.

Once Sidhartha Gauthama's father, king Suddhodana came to Buddha and
complained,

"Gauthama Buddha, my son, when you were the most suitable for the
throne of a Sakvithi King, you left all of us and became a monk. Then
you insulted me by begging for meals, walking house to house along the
streets in my own town. The relatives laughed at me and they insulted
me. Now you are trying to destroy my Army."

" Why " the Buddha asked. " What has happened to your great Army, my
father."

Then the king answered," Can't you see, my soldiers are deserting the
army one by one and joining your group as monks."

" why are they becoming monks, great king and why are they leaving the
Army." Asked Buddha.

" Can't you see " the king answered. " They know that when they become
monks they get free food, free clothes, free accommodation and
respected by all."

Buddha smiled and requested the king to go back to the Palace and said
that he will settle the issue. Buddha then promulgated a law ( Vinaya
) for the monks to the effect that, No soldier could become a monk
whilst in military service. This law is still valid to date.
Accordingly even today unless a soldier is legally discharged from the
army or unless a soldier retires legitimately, he is NOT ordained as a
monk and will not be accepted into the order of monks. This ensures
that soldiers do not desert the army even to join the Buddhist order.

Further in terms of the Vinaya ( the code of conduct for monks) monks
permitted to visit the battle field but they were ordered to return
before the sunset. Permission was also given to visit the injured
relatives in the battlefield.

Further whilst the expressly referred to five occupations as
unrighteous Soldiering is not included amongst those.

The Buddha once describing the qualities of a good monk, compared
those to the essential qualities of a good king to be as follows:

Pure decent
Great wealth
Strong army
Wise ministers
Glory

Once at the city of Savatti, Buddha describing five types of monks in
comparison to the five types of soldiers in the world, (A.iii, duthiya
yodhajeevupama sutta ) classified the soldiers as follows:-

A soldier who enters the battle field armed with sword and shield,
bow and arrows and who gets himself killed by the enemy during battle.
This is the first type of soldier.
A soldier who enters the battle field bravely armed with sword and
shield, bow and arrows but gets injured during battle and taken to his
close relatives. But he dies on the way before he reaches his
relatives. This is the second type of soldier.
Soldier who enters the battlefield bravely armed with sword and
shield, bow and arrows, gets injured and having taken to his close
relatives, receives medical treatment with care. But he dies with the
same ailment although he was surrounded by relatives. This is the
third type of soldier.
Soldier who enters the battlefield bravely armed with sword and
shield, bow and arrows, gets injured and having taken to his close
relatives, receives medical treatment with care. He recovers from the
injury. This is the fourth type of soldier.
Soldier who enters the battlefield bravely armed with armourments
destroys and defeats the enemy. Having won the battle he remains in
the battlefront victoriously. This is the fifth type of soldier.

Similarly in ' patama yodhajeevacupama sutta' Buddha explains five
types of soldiers or warriors.

Type -1- Tremble with fear, unsteady, afraid to get into the
battlefield by seeing the dust and clouds created by fighting men,
animals and vehicles.
Type - 2 - Could withstand the dust and clouds. But tremble with
fear, unsteady, afraid to get into the battlefield by seeing the
Standards and Banners of the enemy.
Type-3- Could withstand dust and clouds, the sight of the enemy
Standards and Banners But tremble with fear, unsteady, afraid to get
into the battlefield by hearing the frightening noises and the battle
cries in the field.
Type- 4 - could withstand dust and clouds, Standards and Banners
of the enemy, the noises and the battle cries But Tremble with fear,
unsteady, afraid to get into the battlefield by a small attack by the
enemy.
Type -5- could withstand dust and clouds, Standards and Banners of
the enemy, the noises and the battle cries. He fights back and wins
his battle. Having won, he victoriously enjoys the fruits seven days
staying in the middle of the battlefield.

When the Buddha recognized a strong army as an essential requirement
of the king he was also aware that the Commander in Chief of the Army
was also the king of the country and that a strong Army four main
divisions, then known as 'the caturangani sena', consisting of Cavalry
(horses), Elephant force, Armed vehicles and the Infantry, each having
its own functions in battle.

His knowledge of the battlefield is so evident for the similis
frequently quoted by him from the battlefield. In Akkhama sutta of
Anguttara Nikaya Buddha compares five weak qualities of elephants
selected to go into battle with that of 5 weak qualities of monks
proceeding through the battle of 'Liberation.'

In the Sutta the Buddha says, An elephant belonging to the
'caturangani sena' [four divisions of the Army of the ruler] will not
be suitable if , it get frightened, trembles, unable to control and
withdraws,

merely by the sight of other elephants, horses, military vehicles
and soldiers in the battle field,
merely by hearing noises and sounds of the battle cries of
elephants, horses, infantry and worrier drums in the field,
merely by the body smell and the smell of urine etc of other
majestic elephants in the battle field,
merely for not getting its food and water for one day or few days
in the battle field.

From the above it is clear that contrary to the popular belief the
Buddha has not rejected or prohibited soldiering as a profession or
occupation and the right of a king or a government to have an army and
to defend one's country and its people. In the contrary the Buddha has
expressly recognized the necessity for a king to have an army and
providing protection to the subjects of a country has been recognized
as a prime duty of the king .

The Buddha in his wisdom did not expect a nation or the rulers to be
lame ducks in the wake of an enemy invasion. However Buddha's
expectations from one who is training to be an Arhant whether monk or
layman are different and it should not be mistaken with the Buddha's
expectations from the laity burdened with numerous worldly
responsibilities. It is also because the Buddha in his wisdom did not
expect every 'Buddhist' to opt for Arahantship nor to become an
ascetic renouncing the worldly affairs. To the majority Buddhism is a
way of life rather than a faith, philosophy, or a religion.

However it should be stressed that a soldier like all others is
subject to the law of Kamma and will not escape the Kammic fruits of
"taking the Life"of a sentient being (panatipatha) even though he may
have had the overall noble intention of protecting his country and his
people.

While killing may be inevitable in a long and successful army career
opportunities for merit too is unlimited for a disciplined and
conscientious soldier.

A disciplined soldier fights his enemy in accordance with the best of
traditions and norms maintained by an army. He doesn't kill a
defenseless person. A good soldier provides medical treatment to the
injured enemy captured. He doesn't kill prisoners of war, children,
women or the aged. A disciplined soldier destroys his enemy only when
his or the lives of his comrades are in danger.

Soldier is one who thrives for peace within because he is one who
realizes the pain of his own wounds. He is one who sees the bloody
destruction of war, the dead, the suffering etc. Hence his desire to
bring peace to himself as well as to the others by ending the war as
soon as possible. He not only suffers during the war but even after
the war. The painful memories of the battles he fought linger in him
making his aspire for true and lasting peace within and without. Hence
the common phenomenon of transformation of brutal kings having an
insatiable desire to conquer to incomparable and exemplary righteous
kings such as Drarmasoka king of Mourian dynasty of India.



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On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

But in general Buddhism doesn't forbid things it simply teaches the
basic physics rule that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

So if you want to kill people, why go ahead and do it. But of course
in your next life you will probably be re-born a worm in the belly of
a water buffalo.

(but come to think of, he is already a worm)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

But in general Buddhism doesn't forbid things it simply teaches the
basic physics rule that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

True indeed. So why do you keep insisting differently?

So if you want to kill people, why go ahead and do it. But of course
in your next life you will probably be re-born a worm in the belly of
a water buffalo.

"Want to kill people"? Buddhists never want to kill people.
However..sometimes its necessary. As the Lord Buddha has said.

Tsk tsk tsk....you are all over the map...like a green fly on a picnic
table.

(but come to think of, he is already a worm)


Poor Johnnny....snicker....Ive posted many times the various spellings
of my sect of Buddhism. And now he makes himself the Professed Expert
on how HE wants it spelled. Sorry JohnnyBoi....the world doesnt work
that way..no matter how much you wish it to be.

Cut and paste..indeed. You on the other hand..have provided...nothing
except your own world view. No cites from the learned...just your own
interpretation..and have nothing to back it up.

So Johnnyboi...what makes you think anyone here gives a **** what you
think?

Hummmm?

Laugh laugh laugh laughl laugh laugh laugh laugh!!!

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On 9/11/2017 9:06 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists

You're not one. Cut the ****. It's something you dabbled in years ago
because you thought it made you appear cool. It didn't. You're a
doctrinaire X-tian who subscribes to the usual monotheistic bull****.

--
VBG Cites? indeed $75/hr fascinating "I've not" buffoon "hold that
thought" backhoe "the list" cull 264mph "3/5/8 years street cop"
swingers "Libs" leftists

On 9/11/2017 11:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It's something he doesn't really know much about at all; just something
he dabbled in years ago to try to impress some drug-addled hippie sow he
wanted to bone.


It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

But in general Buddhism doesn't forbid things it simply teaches the
basic physics rule that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

So if you want to kill people, why go ahead and do it. But of course
in your next life you will probably be re-born a worm in the belly of
a water buffalo.

(but come to think of, he is already a worm)

He's worm castings.

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swingers "Libs" leftists "truely mentally ill"

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.


But in general Buddhism doesn't forbid things it simply teaches the
basic physics rule that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

True indeed. So why do you keep insisting differently?

So if you want to kill people, why go ahead and do it. But of course
in your next life you will probably be re-born a worm in the belly of
a water buffalo.

"Want to kill people"? Buddhists never want to kill people.
However..sometimes its necessary. As the Lord Buddha has said.

That is quite simply a stupid thing to say as Buddhist are simply
people who believe in re-birth and a set of teachings of how to end
the endless cycle of re-birth.


Tsk tsk tsk....you are all over the map...like a green fly on a picnic
table.

(but come to think of, he is already a worm)


Poor Johnnny....snicker....Ive posted many times the various spellings
of my sect of Buddhism. And now he makes himself the Professed Expert
on how HE wants it spelled. Sorry JohnnyBoi....the world doesnt work
that way..no matter how much you wish it to be.

Nope, you posted many times about the "Rensi" sect of Buddhism which
allows you to kill people which is not true. No sect of Buddhism
condones killing but rather than wave their arms and holler and shout
and make you go to Confession like some Christian sects they simply
teach that "you'll pay for your actions".


Cut and paste..indeed. You on the other hand..have provided...nothing
except your own world view. No cites from the learned...just your own
interpretation..and have nothing to back it up.


So I should cut and paste page after page of Buddhist doctrine as you
do? All of it to justify a lie as you do?

Why should I bother.

So Johnnyboi...what makes you think anyone here gives a **** what you
think?

Why should they "give a ****" what I think? After all it is you that
are telling the lies and getting caught out at it.

Good Lord! You can't even spell the name of the sect that you claim to
adhere to.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 9/12/2017 4:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.


But in general Buddhism doesn't forbid things it simply teaches the
basic physics rule that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

True indeed. So why do you keep insisting differently?

So if you want to kill people, why go ahead and do it. But of course
in your next life you will probably be re-born a worm in the belly of
a water buffalo.

"Want to kill people"? Buddhists never want to kill people.
However..sometimes its necessary. As the Lord Buddha has said.

That is quite simply a stupid thing to say as Buddhist are simply
people who believe in re-birth and a set of teachings of how to end
the endless cycle of re-birth.


Tsk tsk tsk....you are all over the map...like a green fly on a picnic
table.

(but come to think of, he is already a worm)


Poor Johnnny....snicker....Ive posted many times the various spellings
of my sect of Buddhism. And now he makes himself the Professed Expert
on how HE wants it spelled. Sorry JohnnyBoi....the world doesnt work
that way..no matter how much you wish it to be.

Nope, you posted many times about the "Rensi" sect of Buddhism which
allows you to kill people which is not true.

"Im Rensai Buddhist. We are the Buddhists that get to kill bad people."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...3f888c326ac288

All bull****. He isn't Buddhist of any kind, and "Rensai" [sic]
Buddhists do not "get to kill bad people."



No sect of Buddhism
condones killing but rather than wave their arms and holler and shout
and make you go to Confession like some Christian sects they simply
teach that "you'll pay for your actions".


Cut and paste..indeed. You on the other hand..have provided...nothing
except your own world view. No cites from the learned...just your own
interpretation..and have nothing to back it up.


So I should cut and paste page after page of Buddhist doctrine as you
do? All of it to justify a lie as you do?

Why should I bother.

So Johnnyboi...what makes you think anyone here gives a **** what you
think?

Why should they "give a ****" what I think? After all it is you that
are telling the lies and getting caught out at it.

Good Lord! You can't even spell the name of the sect that you claim to
adhere to.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.



But in general Buddhism doesn't forbid things it simply teaches the
basic physics rule that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

True indeed. So why do you keep insisting differently?

So if you want to kill people, why go ahead and do it. But of course
in your next life you will probably be re-born a worm in the belly of
a water buffalo.

"Want to kill people"? Buddhists never want to kill people.
However..sometimes its necessary. As the Lord Buddha has said.

That is quite simply a stupid thing to say as Buddhist are simply
people who believe in re-birth and a set of teachings of how to end
the endless cycle of re-birth.

Tsk tsk tsk..that is about the most idiotic definition Ive ever seen
you give anything. Didnt take your smart pills today..did you?



Tsk tsk tsk....you are all over the map...like a green fly on a picnic
table.

(but come to think of, he is already a worm)


Poor Johnnny....snicker....Ive posted many times the various spellings
of my sect of Buddhism. And now he makes himself the Professed Expert
on how HE wants it spelled. Sorry JohnnyBoi....the world doesnt work
that way..no matter how much you wish it to be.

Nope, you posted many times about the "Rensi" sect of Buddhism which
allows you to kill people which is not true. No sect of Buddhism
condones killing but rather than wave their arms and holler and shout
and make you go to Confession like some Christian sects they simply
teach that "you'll pay for your actions".

Cites? I know you can do it...snicker. The work that I posted covered
it quite nicely..yet you snipped it away after not reading it. If you
HAD read it...you wouldnt be quite so stupid on that subject. But
you prefer stupidity above all things. Sadly.


Cut and paste..indeed. You on the other hand..have provided...nothing
except your own world view. No cites from the learned...just your own
interpretation..and have nothing to back it up.


So I should cut and paste page after page of Buddhist doctrine as you
do? All of it to justify a lie as you do?

Why should I bother.

Page after page of Buddhist Doctrine to justify a lie? How could it
be a lie when I provide proof? Poor *******...you hung yourself once
again.. I do say its funny as hell watching you spasm and your limbs
jerk though.


So Johnnyboi...what makes you think anyone here gives a **** what you
think?

Why should they "give a ****" what I think? After all it is you that
are telling the lies and getting caught out at it.

Good Lord! You can't even spell the name of the sect that you claim to
adhere to.

Do a Google on all the spellings you wish. You will find it spelled
both ways. But typical of you...you are anal and stupid.

(VBG)

Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

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On 9/12/2017 5:39 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false.

**** off, Wieber. No one is going to take a thing you say about
Buddhism seriously. You don't know your ass from your face.

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:24:27 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Of course it is. However one can be reborn over and over and over
again after reaching Nirvana. If one desires

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Indeed.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?

Looks like you are beating me to the top of the ignorance heap.

Interesting how you can do a quick google on Buddhism..yet actually
understand so little. Cutting and pasting half understood quotes from
unknown sources is exactly what you have accused me of over and over
again...even though I give the cites and sources. You..snicker....did
neither

But then..thats all you have...ignorance and cut and past..JohnnyBoi

Your Thicket of Views...is all poison ivy....laugh laugh laugh laugh
laugh laugh laugh!!

https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q...aining-nirvana

Oh..Id strongly suggest you do a quick google on who and what a
Bodhisattva is.....

Your ignorance...knows no bounds in time and space.


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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:53:58 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:24:27 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Of course it is. However one can be reborn over and over and over
again after reaching Nirvana. If one desires

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Indeed.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?

Looks like you are beating me to the top of the ignorance heap.

Interesting how you can do a quick google on Buddhism..yet actually
understand so little. Cutting and pasting half understood quotes from
unknown sources is exactly what you have accused me of over and over
again...even though I give the cites and sources. You..snicker....did
neither

Well, given that I live in a country where the overwhelming percent of
the population is Buddhist (some 93%), and that my wife is Buddhist
and that every male in the extended family past the age of puberty has
entered the religion as a Monk and that I have had extended
discussions with the Abbots of a number of Wats', and although I,
myself, have never been shaved a monk, I believe that even without
cutting and pasting from the Internet I probably? No, certainly, know
a while lot more about the Religion then you do. At least I can spell
the name of the sect that I believe is the true one, the Theravada
school, which is based on the Buddha's actual teachings, rather than
some wacky Chinaman who arrived on the scene 1300 years after the
Buddha attained enlightenment.


https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q...aining-nirvana

Oh..Id strongly suggest you do a quick google on who and what a
Bodhisattva is.....


Of course I know. A Bodhisattva is the Sanskrit term for anyone who,
motivated by great compassion, has generated Bodhicitta, which is a
spontaneous wish and a compassionate mind to attain Buddhahood for the
benefit of all sentient beings.

The Buddha himself was a Bodhisattva and Quan Yin, who is honored as a
Bodhisattva by the Mahayana Buddhists, foreigners refer to her as "The
Goddess of Mercy", and of course many more.

By bring up the subject I can only assume that you have claiming that
you have reached perfection and have attained Buddhahood for all
mankind.

But don't stop. Keep up your meandering through the subject as it
provides my wife with considerable amusement. I read her your posts on
the subject and she laughs and says "Stupid Foreigner".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 9/13/2017 2:09 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:53:58 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:24:27 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Of course it is. However one can be reborn over and over and over
again after reaching Nirvana. If one desires

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Indeed.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?

Looks like you are beating me to the top of the ignorance heap.

Interesting how you can do a quick google on Buddhism..yet actually
understand so little. Cutting and pasting half understood quotes from
unknown sources is exactly what you have accused me of over and over
again...even though I give the cites and sources. You..snicker....did
neither

Well, given that I live in a country where the overwhelming percent of
the population is Buddhist (some 93%), and that my wife is Buddhist
and that every male in the extended family past the age of puberty has
entered the religion as a Monk and that I have had extended
discussions with the Abbots of a number of Wats', and although I,
myself, have never been shaved a monk, I believe that even without
cutting and pasting from the Internet I probably? No, certainly, know
a while lot more about the Religion then you do. At least I can spell
the name of the sect that I believe is the true one, the Theravada
school, which is based on the Buddha's actual teachings, rather than
some wacky Chinaman who arrived on the scene 1300 years after the
Buddha attained enlightenment.


https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q...aining-nirvana

Oh..Id strongly suggest you do a quick google on who and what a
Bodhisattva is.....


Of course I know. A Bodhisattva is the Sanskrit term for anyone who,
motivated by great compassion, has generated Bodhicitta, which is a
spontaneous wish and a compassionate mind to attain Buddhahood for the
benefit of all sentient beings.

Despite the fact that it's obvious to all, you're never going to get the
dabbler - the X-tian dabbler poseur - to acknowledge that you know what
you're talking about and he doesn't. He's a bull****ter, that's all,
and they never give up.

The Buddha himself was a Bodhisattva and Quan Yin, who is honored as a
Bodhisattva by the Mahayana Buddhists, foreigners refer to her as "The
Goddess of Mercy", and of course many more.

By bring up the subject I can only assume that you have claiming that
you have reached perfection and have attained Buddhahood for all
mankind.

But don't stop. Keep up your meandering through the subject as it
provides my wife with considerable amusement. I read her your posts on
the subject and she laughs and says "Stupid Foreigner".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:09:32 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:53:58 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:24:27 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Of course it is. However one can be reborn over and over and over
again after reaching Nirvana. If one desires

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Indeed.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?

Looks like you are beating me to the top of the ignorance heap.

Interesting how you can do a quick google on Buddhism..yet actually
understand so little. Cutting and pasting half understood quotes from
unknown sources is exactly what you have accused me of over and over
again...even though I give the cites and sources. You..snicker....did
neither

Well, given that I live in a country where the overwhelming percent of
the population is Buddhist (some 93%), and that my wife is Buddhist
and that every male in the extended family past the age of puberty has
entered the religion as a Monk and that I have had extended
discussions with the Abbots of a number of Wats', and although I,
myself, have never been shaved a monk, I believe that even without
cutting and pasting from the Internet I probably? No, certainly, know
a while lot more about the Religion then you do. At least I can spell
the name of the sect that I believe is the true one, the Theravada
school, which is based on the Buddha's actual teachings, rather than
some wacky Chinaman who arrived on the scene 1300 years after the
Buddha attained enlightenment.


https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q...aining-nirvana

Oh..Id strongly suggest you do a quick google on who and what a
Bodhisattva is.....


Of course I know. A Bodhisattva is the Sanskrit term for anyone who,
motivated by great compassion, has generated Bodhicitta, which is a
spontaneous wish and a compassionate mind to attain Buddhahood for the
benefit of all sentient beings.

The Buddha himself was a Bodhisattva and Quan Yin, who is honored as a
Bodhisattva by the Mahayana Buddhists, foreigners refer to her as "The
Goddess of Mercy", and of course many more.

By bring up the subject I can only assume that you have claiming that
you have reached perfection and have attained Buddhahood for all
mankind.

So you suddenly realized you **** in your messkit (again) and forgot
about those that reached Bodhisativa and remained to help all others
attain Nirvana. You clearly stated that once you reach
enlightenment..you are done from the Wheel and have no contact with us
poor seekers. You further twisted off and claimed that Im saying Ive
reached enlightenment..yada yada.. completely out of the blue...and in
doing so...showed what an evil little **** you are. Lying so clearly
and so publicly....thats gonna drop you down to being a dung beetle
again...given you do it so often.

But don't stop. Keep up your meandering through the subject as it
provides my wife with considerable amusement. I read her your posts on
the subject and she laughs and says "Stupid Foreigner".

Stupid woman for marrying someone as pathetically ignorant as you. And
evil. We cant forget evil.

Spit out the ghat wad and learn to read and stop tripping over your
buffoonery

Gunner

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On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 5:09:38 AM UTC-4, John B. wrote:

But don't stop. Keep up your meandering through the subject as it
provides my wife with considerable amusement. I read her your posts on
the subject and she laughs and says "Stupid Foreigner".
--
Cheers,

John B.

I read some of his posts to my friend Khenpo Pema. His response was "Just ignore him." He didn't laugh because the likes of Wieber do damage to the world every time they speak.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:20:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:09:32 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:53:58 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:24:27 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Of course it is. However one can be reborn over and over and over
again after reaching Nirvana. If one desires

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Indeed.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?

Looks like you are beating me to the top of the ignorance heap.

Interesting how you can do a quick google on Buddhism..yet actually
understand so little. Cutting and pasting half understood quotes from
unknown sources is exactly what you have accused me of over and over
again...even though I give the cites and sources. You..snicker....did
neither

Well, given that I live in a country where the overwhelming percent of
the population is Buddhist (some 93%), and that my wife is Buddhist
and that every male in the extended family past the age of puberty has
entered the religion as a Monk and that I have had extended
discussions with the Abbots of a number of Wats', and although I,
myself, have never been shaved a monk, I believe that even without
cutting and pasting from the Internet I probably? No, certainly, know
a while lot more about the Religion then you do. At least I can spell
the name of the sect that I believe is the true one, the Theravada
school, which is based on the Buddha's actual teachings, rather than
some wacky Chinaman who arrived on the scene 1300 years after the
Buddha attained enlightenment.


https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q...aining-nirvana

Oh..Id strongly suggest you do a quick google on who and what a
Bodhisattva is.....


Of course I know. A Bodhisattva is the Sanskrit term for anyone who,
motivated by great compassion, has generated Bodhicitta, which is a
spontaneous wish and a compassionate mind to attain Buddhahood for the
benefit of all sentient beings.

The Buddha himself was a Bodhisattva and Quan Yin, who is honored as a
Bodhisattva by the Mahayana Buddhists, foreigners refer to her as "The
Goddess of Mercy", and of course many more.

By bring up the subject I can only assume that you have claiming that
you have reached perfection and have attained Buddhahood for all
mankind.

So you suddenly realized you **** in your messkit (again) and forgot
about those that reached Bodhisativa and remained to help all others
attain Nirvana.

A nice try at an end run around reality. I pointed out that reaching
nirvana, which is a word that means something similar to going out or
extinguish, means simply that. You seem to the arguing that if the
individual wished he can go on. and one assumes on and on and on.

But all your bull **** aside you can't even spell the name of the sect
that you profess belief in. Which certainly says a great deal about
your "knowledge" of the subject.

If you actually knew anything about the subject you would realize that
the main tenet of Zen and your sub-sect Renzai is, and I quote:
"Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice".

And if you actually did "see one's true nature" you would be aware of
the fact that you are, quite simply, a feeble old man living in
poverty who has never amounted to anything at all, and all your
attempts to prove to the world that you are, way down deep inside, a
powerfully and intelligent person who has accomplished almost
impossible feats is simply the efforts of a failure to prove to the
world that he is some sort of a "super hero".

Good Lord! Your wife even ran off and left you for someone else. Super
Hero indeed.

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 9/13/2017 5:05 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:20:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:09:32 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:53:58 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:24:27 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:39:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:48:54 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:03:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:48:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:06:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:35:59 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-4, kick ray-ray wrote:
On 9/11/2017 12:48 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I think that a 5 gallon can filled with diesel fuel and Duzz
detergent, with a grenade taped to the side of it..and detonated by
pulling the pin with a bit of rope would be even more fun

Not going to happen, Wieber, and you ****ing know it.

Actually, the poor slob probably *doesn't* know it. In all likelihood, he has told these fantastic tales so many times that in his twisted mind, they have become what passes for reality in Wieber-World.

You really do have to have pity on a guy who's life is so completely ****ed up that all he has left are fantasies of doing harm to others. Buddhist my ass. There is not now, nor was there ever a Buddhist sect that promoted or condoned inflicting pain for one's own pleasure. There are, however, plenty of Buddhists who would feel sorrow for Wieber.

The Buddhist sect that he claims to belong to believes that the first,
and most important, act in attaining Nirvana is to "understand one's
self".


Rensi Buddhists do have that "requirement". More of a suggestion for
enlightenment..but it is there. Its not the first and most
important..but its high on the list.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm


Hundreds of lines of cut and paste none of which he understands and he
even misspells the name of his professed version of Buddhism.

In reality it is pronounced "Rinzai" and it is a sub branch of Zen
Buddhism.

It is generally described as:

Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice, and
for its insistence on many years of exhaustive post-kensho training to
embody the free functioning of wisdom within the activities of daily
life.

If one wishes to become a monk...true indeed.

No. If one wants to attain nirvana, which in the Buddhist scheme of
things is simply not to be re-born again.

Absolutely false. Its well known that one takes multiple trips on the
Wheel of Life and reaching nirvana means total personal enlightenment,
which does NOT preclude one from living again and again. It only means
one has reached enlightenment.


Gee, you are really an ignorant individual, aren't you.

Nirvana:
(Sanskrit, also nirvana; Pali: nibbana, ) is the earliest and most
common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The
literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching." It is the ultimate
spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from
rebirths in samsara.

Of course it is. However one can be reborn over and over and over
again after reaching Nirvana. If one desires

Samsara:
Samsara (Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara) in Buddhism is the
beginning-less cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying
again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful.

Indeed.

Dukkha:
Dukkha (Pali; Sanskrit: dukha) is an important Buddhist concept,
commonly translated as "suffering", "pain" or "unsatisfactoriness"

Would you care to post another hundred lines to add to our
understanding of your truly phenomenal ignorance?

Looks like you are beating me to the top of the ignorance heap.

Interesting how you can do a quick google on Buddhism..yet actually
understand so little. Cutting and pasting half understood quotes from
unknown sources is exactly what you have accused me of over and over
again...even though I give the cites and sources. You..snicker....did
neither

Well, given that I live in a country where the overwhelming percent of
the population is Buddhist (some 93%), and that my wife is Buddhist
and that every male in the extended family past the age of puberty has
entered the religion as a Monk and that I have had extended
discussions with the Abbots of a number of Wats', and although I,
myself, have never been shaved a monk, I believe that even without
cutting and pasting from the Internet I probably? No, certainly, know
a while lot more about the Religion then you do. At least I can spell
the name of the sect that I believe is the true one, the Theravada
school, which is based on the Buddha's actual teachings, rather than
some wacky Chinaman who arrived on the scene 1300 years after the
Buddha attained enlightenment.


https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q...aining-nirvana

Oh..Id strongly suggest you do a quick google on who and what a
Bodhisattva is.....


Of course I know. A Bodhisattva is the Sanskrit term for anyone who,
motivated by great compassion, has generated Bodhicitta, which is a
spontaneous wish and a compassionate mind to attain Buddhahood for the
benefit of all sentient beings.

The Buddha himself was a Bodhisattva and Quan Yin, who is honored as a
Bodhisattva by the Mahayana Buddhists, foreigners refer to her as "The
Goddess of Mercy", and of course many more.

By bring up the subject I can only assume that you have claiming that
you have reached perfection and have attained Buddhahood for all
mankind.

So you suddenly realized you **** in your messkit (again) and forgot
about those that reached Bodhisativa and remained to help all others
attain Nirvana.

A nice try at an end run around reality. I pointed out that reaching
nirvana, which is a word that means something similar to going out or
extinguish, means simply that. You seem to the arguing that if the
individual wished he can go on. and one assumes on and on and on.

But all your bull **** aside you can't even spell the name of the sect
that you profess belief in. Which certainly says a great deal about
your "knowledge" of the subject.

There is almost nothing about which Wieber has any meaningful knowledge.

If you actually knew anything about the subject you would realize that
the main tenet of Zen and your sub-sect Renzai is, and I quote:
"Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice".

And if you actually did "see one's true nature" you would be aware of
the fact that you are, quite simply, a feeble old man living in
poverty who has never amounted to anything at all, and all your
attempts to prove to the world that you are, way down deep inside, a
powerfully and intelligent person who has accomplished almost
impossible feats is simply the efforts of a failure to prove to the
world that he is some sort of a "super hero".

+1


Good Lord! Your wife even ran off and left you for someone else. Super
Hero indeed.

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John B.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:05:28 +0700, John B.
wrote:


If you actually knew anything about the subject you would realize that
the main tenet of Zen and your sub-sect Renzai is, and I quote:
"Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice".

And if you actually did "see one's true nature" you would be aware of
the fact that you are, quite simply, a feeble old man living in
poverty who has never amounted to anything at all,


The opinion of a qhat filled turd is noted with great amusement and
much laughter.

Frankly JohnnyBoi...I really dont care what your opinion of me is. Why
should I? I consider you to be something of a turd at
best....shrug..and your opinion is worth exactly what I paid for it.

Zip. Zero. Nada, Nichego, Nichts, Ei mitään.

So why should I feel bad that you dont like me? (Grin)..I rather take
pride in it. Its like having raised the ire of a newt...and watching
you dance and lie and watching the spittle coming out of your mouth is
in itself rewarding as can be.

Why do you think Ive not killfiled you? Because its fun to pull your
wings off and set your socks on fire. Over and over again. You never
learn. You are like a popup live fire target. (You are actually quite
stupid...you do know this..right?)

But hey...if you think your opinion actually means something..perhaps
the Huntington Post or the NYP might pay something for it.

Why not submit something nicely Anti-Trump and see if they toss a few
bucks in your direction? You could afford to be a better quality
street whore. Maybe even a female one..as I recall you are living in
Thailand or some other asian ********.

Have a nice day Johnny. In 8 hours you can powder your face and put on
that short dress and the wig and join the rest of the ka-toey at your
beer bar of choice. Just be sure that your Mangda doesnt get all your
money.

But hey..its your choice, periwinkle




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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:25:55 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:05:28 +0700, John B.
wrote:


If you actually knew anything about the subject you would realize that
the main tenet of Zen and your sub-sect Renzai is, and I quote:
"Rinzai Zen is marked by the emphasis it places on kensho ("seeing
one's true nature") as the gateway to authentic Buddhist practice".

And if you actually did "see one's true nature" you would be aware of
the fact that you are, quite simply, a feeble old man living in
poverty who has never amounted to anything at all,


The opinion of a qhat filled turd is noted with great amusement and
much laughter.


I'm sure it is. There you are laughing at me.... and the rest of the
world is laughing at you.

After all, consider the multitudes that are posting "No, no, I knew
Weeber when he was a child soldier", or "No, no, I was there when
Weeber rode the motorcycle", or "No, no I was there when they plotted
the Great Cull".

Good Lord! The Internet can hardly keep up with the traffic telling us
what a super man this guy Weeber is. Got the blue suit with the big
red "S" on the front and the cape and the boots there 'n everything.

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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:17:47 +0700, John B.
wrote:


The opinion of a qhat filled turd is noted with great amusement and
much laughter.


I'm sure it is. There you are laughing at me.... and the rest of the
world is laughing at you.

After all, consider the multitudes that are posting "No, no, I knew
Weeber when he was a child soldier", or "No, no, I was there when
Weeber rode the motorcycle", or "No, no I was there when they plotted
the Great Cull".

Good Lord! The Internet can hardly keep up with the traffic telling us
what a super man this guy Weeber is. Got the blue suit with the big
red "S" on the front and the cape and the boots there 'n everything.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Lots of people posting " I knew Weeber"?

1...who is Weeber?
2.. Who claims to know me?

So Johnny...how was your Wed night event at the beer bar? Got a
picture for us while in your dress?


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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 06:03:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:17:47 +0700, John B.
wrote:


The opinion of a qhat filled turd is noted with great amusement and
much laughter.


I'm sure it is. There you are laughing at me.... and the rest of the
world is laughing at you.

After all, consider the multitudes that are posting "No, no, I knew
Weeber when he was a child soldier", or "No, no, I was there when
Weeber rode the motorcycle", or "No, no I was there when they plotted
the Great Cull".

Good Lord! The Internet can hardly keep up with the traffic telling us
what a super man this guy Weeber is. Got the blue suit with the big
red "S" on the front and the cape and the boots there 'n everything.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Lots of people posting " I knew Weeber"?

1...who is Weeber?

Duh.

2.. Who claims to know me?

Oh, so you do know! Great job contradicting yourself in only two
lines!

So Johnny...how was your Wed night event at the beer bar? Got a
picture for us while in your dress?

Poor old Wieber must attempt to distract by feebly pretending to not
understand the obvious joke. Or maybe he really is that dense. Just in
case... Hey, moron, he's saying that nobody ever backs up any of your
fables. And he's absolutely correct, right? Go ahead and post your
evidence if you disagree. You know what evidence is, right? Hint -
it's not more pictures of free sailboats. LOL

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 06:03:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:17:47 +0700, John B.
wrote:


The opinion of a qhat filled turd is noted with great amusement and
much laughter.


I'm sure it is. There you are laughing at me.... and the rest of the
world is laughing at you.

After all, consider the multitudes that are posting "No, no, I knew
Weeber when he was a child soldier", or "No, no, I was there when
Weeber rode the motorcycle", or "No, no I was there when they plotted
the Great Cull".

Good Lord! The Internet can hardly keep up with the traffic telling us
what a super man this guy Weeber is. Got the blue suit with the big
red "S" on the front and the cape and the boots there 'n everything.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Lots of people posting " I knew Weeber"?

1...who is Weeber?
2.. Who claims to know me?

So Johnny...how was your Wed night event at the beer bar? Got a
picture for us while in your dress?


Oh? Changed your name again? What is it now? Maybe SUPERMAN? Finally
scratched up enough coin to get the blue suit with the big red "S" on
the front and the cape and the boots. Probably be on the net telling
every one how you stopped the speeding locomotive, leaped the tallest
building with a single bound... When in reality you are a feeble and
improvised old man without a pot to **** in who makes up fantastic
fiction in order to convince people that he really is somebody.

What's next? The exciting story of how the Sheriff came to town and
told you to clean up that **** pile you live in or they would call the
garbage truck and haul it all away?

Goodness, I thought that story would end up like "High Noon" with you
and the sheriff standing in the middle of the road with hand hovering
over the gun butt saying things like "draw, mother ****er". But then
you chickened out, again, didn't you.

Gunner Ass indeed. Pitiful **** Ant sounds more accurate.
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Cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 06:50:13 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 06:03:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:17:47 +0700, John B.
wrote:


The opinion of a qhat filled turd is noted with great amusement and
much laughter.


I'm sure it is. There you are laughing at me.... and the rest of the
world is laughing at you.

After all, consider the multitudes that are posting "No, no, I knew
Weeber when he was a child soldier", or "No, no, I was there when
Weeber rode the motorcycle", or "No, no I was there when they plotted
the Great Cull".

Good Lord! The Internet can hardly keep up with the traffic telling us
what a super man this guy Weeber is. Got the blue suit with the big
red "S" on the front and the cape and the boots there 'n everything.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Lots of people posting " I knew Weeber"?

1...who is Weeber?
2.. Who claims to know me?

So Johnny...how was your Wed night event at the beer bar? Got a
picture for us while in your dress?


Oh? Changed your name again? What is it now? Maybe SUPERMAN? Finally
scratched up enough coin to get the blue suit with the big red "S" on
the front and the cape and the boots. Probably be on the net telling
every one how you stopped the speeding locomotive, leaped the tallest
building with a single bound... When in reality you are a feeble and
improvised old man without a pot to **** in who makes up fantastic
fiction in order to convince people that he really is somebody.

Tsk tsk tsk...you arent coming down with senile dementia now, on top
of your rank stupidity and that evil streak are you?

My name is Mark Richard David Wolfgang Christopher Wieber.

What's next? The exciting story of how the Sheriff came to town and
told you to clean up that **** pile you live in or they would call the
garbage truck and haul it all away?

Sorry son...your fantasy world..while it may give you great joy...is
apparently the result of your overuseing qhat again.

Goodness, I thought that story would end up like "High Noon" with you
and the sheriff standing in the middle of the road with hand hovering
over the gun butt saying things like "draw, mother ****er". But then
you chickened out, again, didn't you.

Gunner Ass indeed. Pitiful **** Ant sounds more accurate.


Snicker..is that the BEST you can dream about? Oh come now
Johnny...even my dogs come up with better dreams than that. They lay
there on the couch..feet moving 60 miles per hour...barking in their
sleep as they hunt down and rip the baggy asses off Leftwingers and
the insane.


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