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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?
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On 11/01/16 18:10, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

Not much to remove really which is good. As an amateur glass blower I've
done this type of thing on a number of occasions by rolling the tube on
a couple of rails, normally a glass blowing bench, and holding an angle
grinder with a flap disc against the part to remove the material and
moving it along the section needing to be reduced. Lift the grinder
before you stop and reverse direction to avoid flatting the tube, or
start from the beginning again. As you're needing to remove so little
best use a fine flap wheel. If this is a Chinese drill press you may
find the tube drops straight in anyway if that close in size as in my
experience with them the bores are not that accurate. I've used this
procedure when fixing blowing iron heads that have cracked of back to
the main shaft and cleaned the weld seam this way. Best in my experience
to have the wheel grinding in the direction or near to the axis of the
tube. If in doubt practice on some scrap tube.
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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor
press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe
that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow
turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately
.001 to .002.

....

Before going ahead, best check the table clamp will work ok with the
larger diameter or you'll be needing to do the whole length (or at least
as much as you intend to actually use).

I'd think you'd probably be better off just adding the lower section to
the existing unless you really think you need that full height for the
table (but virtually no floor models actually have the length of the
post more than half the actual total length, anyway)?

And, you may need some more heft for the rigidity, anyway...

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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

Use a reamer instead, on the top and bottom fittings? Or freeze the
tube and heat the top and bottom and just shrink fit?
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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by
replacing the round column with a taller one. I can
get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need
to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the
top and base approximately .001 to .002.


Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


So, do you have an extended rack for raising and lowering the table?




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So, do you have an extended rack for raising and lowering the table?


Of course not! That wasn't the question. All he wants is an 6" lift/lower
for a floor press! G

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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.

No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.
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stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor
press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a
pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to
somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base
approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?



Check the fit first. Then figure out how you will get the table to move
as it will not fit if the base and head don't fit.

The other thing is that you can likely get DOM tubing in the correct
size from a steel supplier. It's probably metric...

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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.


My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet! g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.


Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.


My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet! g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.


Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:10:45 -0800 (PST), stryped
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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

If you can get the pipe in SS then why can't you get it in regular
steel? The SS must be expensive. Instead of trying to take the
material off of the tube why not instead use a cylinder hone to open
up the holes the pipe must fit in to? I bet it would be faster. More
likely to end up with something round too.
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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped

wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor
press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get
a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would
need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top
and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides
up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand
if that makes sense.


My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet!
g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over
simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on
the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However,
the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better
idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even
thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat
instead of round.


Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

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You should be able to pay someone and get it done for under $50

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.


My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet! g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.


Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped

wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor
press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get
a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would
need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top
and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?
It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides
up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand
if that makes sense.

My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet!
g

No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over
simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on
the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However,
the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better
idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even
thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat
instead of round.

Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

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Thin-walled pool ladder tubing?



I hope not. Be like using a cooked noodle for the mast....


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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:14:19 -0800 (PST), stryped
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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.


My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet! g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.


Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

What's the wall thickness? My guess is it is too light for the job at
hand. Drill press column is generally pipe (or DOM tubing with
substantial thickness) not thinwall tubing as used for pool fittings.
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped

wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor
press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get
a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would
need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top
and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?
It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides
up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand
if that makes sense.
My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet!
g

No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over
simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on
the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However,
the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better
idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even
thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat
instead of round.
Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

===

Thin-walled pool ladder tubing?



I hope not. Be like using a cooked noodle for the mast....

Would be Stryped's speed though.
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I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a
floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I
can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but
I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into
the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?


Did you mean .01 to .02??

One or two thou you should be able to remove by hand, with sandpaper.
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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped

wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor
press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get
a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would
need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top
and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides
up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand
if that makes sense.


My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet!
g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over
simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on
the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However,
the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better
idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even
thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat
instead of round.


Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

===

Thin-walled pool ladder tubing?


It _is_ stryped, after all. Why do you guys bother? sigh


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It _is_ stryped, after all. Why do you guys bother? sigh


He's worth more time than you are Jackass.

Stop telling adults what to do you worthless piece of ****.


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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:14:19 -0800 (PST), stryped
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On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.

My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet! g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.

Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)

My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

What's the wall thickness? My guess is it is too light for the job at
hand. Drill press column is generally pipe (or DOM tubing with
substantial thickness) not thinwall tubing as used for pool fittings.


If a drill press column doesnt have at least..at least .25" (1/4" for
those of you in Rio Linda)..it will be a nightmare to use if its over
30" long. Most of my floor model drill presses have .375-.50 wall
thicknesses in their columns.

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:41:08 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:14:19 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-6, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:07:15 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote:

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-6, stryped wrote:
I am thinking of concerting my table top drill press into a floor press by replacing the round column with a taller one. I can get a pipe that is close to the same size in stainless, but I would need to somehow turn the ends down where they fit into the top and base approximately .001 to .002.

Any ideas on how this could be done without a lathe?

It does not have a geard rack as a lot of them do. The table slides up and down on the shaft freely then tightens via a clamp by hand if that makes sense.

My floor model Walker Turner works the same way. Watch your feet! g


No, I do not have a lathe. I am sorry I don't or if this is an over simplistic question. My first thought was to use my belt sander on the ends of the pipe or a sanding disc on my die grinder. However, the reason for my question was in case someone on here had a better idea I had not thought of that would allow me to get a more even thickness that a sander without risking making the ends flat instead of round.

Belt sander, fine grit, go easy. Better yet, open up the sockets to
fit the post. You can use a piece of wood with emery cloth wrapped
around it. Don't taper it!

(Why did you bother with stainless??)
My dad works for a pool supplier and can get it in stainless.

What's the wall thickness? My guess is it is too light for the job at
hand. Drill press column is generally pipe (or DOM tubing with
substantial thickness) not thinwall tubing as used for pool fittings.


If a drill press column doesnt have at least..at least .25" (1/4" for
those of you in Rio Linda)..it will be a nightmare to use if its over
30" long. Most of my floor model drill presses have .375-.50 wall
thicknesses in their columns.

Gunner

Several years back I salvaged a couple display stands - think
intravenus poles on steroids - one of which I used to convert my bench
top drill press to a floor model. The vertical tube was chrome plated
and 50 thou too small so I made 0.025" shims for the table and head
bores, replaced the 1/6HP motor with 1/3HP and the 3/8" chuck with
1/2". It is still a pretty wimpy DP but more useful than before.
Oh Yeah - I filled the thin wall vertical tube with damp concrete mix
well compacted, to give it a little more rigidity.
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