When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,”
according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active
Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

“[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a
natural experience.”

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:

When Road & TrackÂ’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of
the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the
engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,”
according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise
through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active
Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

“[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
whatÂ’s
already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural
experience.”

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes-
some-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

It sounds like the logo for that particular car should be an ace of spades
and a clothspin.

(Does anyone still do that?)

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:14:49 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:

When Road & Track?s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of
the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the
engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang ? ?the original pony car,?
according to Jalopnik ? has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise
through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active
Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

?[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what?s
already there,? Carney told Autoblog. ?The intent is to be a natural
experience.?

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes-
some-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

They have no sense, period.


It sounds like the logo for that particular car should be an ace of spades
and a clothspin.

(Does anyone still do that?)

One would _hope_ not, sir.

--
Give me the luxuries of life.
I can live without the necessities.
--anon

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
. ..
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.


How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:38:42 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.


How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL.


Aha. The "ring-ding" app -- your choice of Kawasaki or Yamaha. g

I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.

--
Ed Huntress

On 9/27/2014 4:41 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
....
I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.

There's the app: your choice of engine sound. Select from a library of
iconic cars. Or cycles. Or whatever. Maybe a chainsaw for a silly choice.

Bob

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:50:34 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

On 9/27/2014 4:41 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
...
I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.

There's the app: your choice of engine sound. Select from a library of
iconic cars. Or cycles. Or whatever. Maybe a chainsaw for a silly choice.

Bob

I wouldn't be surprised if someone was already on the job.

Now, if I could get a holographic GTO body to go with it...

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:38:42 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.


How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL.


Or better yet, a "Buzzin' Dozen"

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd.
Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony
car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced
engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder
Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out
some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be
a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.


How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL.

Blasphemer!

The Allison V-1710 was the original engine of the REAL Mustang, the
P-51, and of my sentimental favorite the P-40. Tho I'd gladly settle
for the sound of the British Merlin that gave the P-51B/C high
altitude performance.

-jsw

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:50:34 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

On 9/27/2014 4:41 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
...
I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.

There's the app: your choice of engine sound. Select from a library
of
iconic cars. Or cycles. Or whatever. Maybe a chainsaw for a silly
choice.

Bob

I wouldn't be surprised if someone was already on the job.

Now, if I could get a holographic GTO body to go with it...

--
Ed Huntress

It's rumored that Honda engineers were refused permission to make one
of their hot bikes sound like an F-4 Phantom taking off in full
burner.
-jsw

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:


Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney

who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called �Active

Noise Control,� and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang

comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some

coarse noise.





===============================================



Have they no sense of decency, sir?



--

Ed Huntress

Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise.

Dan

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:


Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney

who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active

Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang

comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some

coarse noise.





===============================================



Have they no sense of decency, sir?



--

Ed Huntress

Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise.

Dan

But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?

Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have
wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:


Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney

who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
?Active

Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder
Mustang

comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some

coarse noise.





===============================================



Have they no sense of decency, sir?



--

Ed Huntress

Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the
bystanders are spared the noise.

Dan

But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?

Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would
have
wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine
(in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows
the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross
streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the
potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles.

It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness
enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which
integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders
in nearby planes.

The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield.

-jsw

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:


Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney

who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
?Active

Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder
Mustang

comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some

coarse noise.





===============================================



Have they no sense of decency, sir?



--

Ed Huntress

Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the
bystanders are spared the noise.

Dan

But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?

Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would
have
wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine
(in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows
the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross
streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the
potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles.

It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness
enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which
integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders
in nearby planes.

The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield.

-jsw

Ha! Think of how much technology is going to be redundant or
irrelevant when the cars start driving us.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:37:19 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:38:42 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
m...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.


How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL.


Or better yet, a "Buzzin' Dozen"

Oh, crikey! There are more of them.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ined-tech-dept
http://jalopnik.com/2014-cadillac-ct...e-t-1301990875
http://www.vroombox.com/

I'm going to cry, if I don't throw up first...

--
Give me the luxuries of life.
I can live without the necessities.
--anon

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:47:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
m...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd.
Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony
car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced
engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder
Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out
some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be
a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw

Give them time; there will be an app for that.


How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL.

Blasphemer!

The Allison V-1710 was the original engine of the REAL Mustang, the
P-51, and of my sentimental favorite the P-40. Tho I'd gladly settle
for the sound of the British Merlin that gave the P-51B/C high
altitude performance.

Love the Mustang's roar. But who's to say the rice burners don't have
an exquisite sound themselves?

(Heh, heh, heh. Most of us, prolly.

--
Give me the luxuries of life.
I can live without the necessities.
--anon

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine
(in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows
the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross
streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the
potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles.

It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness
enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which
integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders
in nearby planes.

The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield.

And we thought phones were distracting?

--
Give me the luxuries of life.
I can live without the necessities.
--anon

On 9/27/2014 11:54 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent
drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car,"
according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
"Active
Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

"[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a
natural experience."

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

--
Ed Huntress

I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12
Allison.
-jsw



Or an Inline 12 Jag !
Martin

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:


Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney

who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
?Active

Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder
Mustang

comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out
some

coarse noise.





===============================================



Have they no sense of decency, sir?



--

Ed Huntress

Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the
bystanders are spared the noise.

Dan

But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?

Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would
have
wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT
magazine
(in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that
shows
the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of
cross
streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and
the
potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles.

It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness
enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which
integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders
in nearby planes.

The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield.

-jsw

Ha! Think of how much technology is going to be redundant or
irrelevant when the cars start driving us.

--
Ed Huntress

The boredom problem has been known and studied for a long time in
aircraft.

The airline joke is that the cockpit of the future will hold a pilot
and a dog. The pilot's job is to feed the dog, the dog's is to bite
him if he touches the controls.

The voice transcript of the Air France jet that fell into the Atlantic
is a serious wake-up about relying excessively on automation and the
judgement of its programmers. They made a small mistake at ~37000 feet
that put them in a flat high-speed stall, because the air is so thin.
Then they fell all the way to the ocean in a plane with nothing wrong
with it most of the way down, after the ice melted from the air speed
sensors. It stayed relatively flat, responding clumsily but properly
to the controls, but it gave them a stall warning when they nosed down
and gained speed, the proper corrective action, because the stall
warning shut off below about 60 Kts and came back on when they
accelerated past its lower limit. So instead of flying the plane the
way he knew was right the captain followed the computer's incorrect
warnings. They repeatedly said they didn't understand what was
happening to them,
"j'ai plus le controle de l'avion la"
"qu'est-cequi se passe?"
"on a tout perdu le controle de l'avion on comprend rien on a tout
tente"
"on n'a aucune indication qui soit valable"
"c'est pas possible"

In his defense pilots can't correctly sense what the plane is doing at
night in clouds and should trust the instruments instead. The
descending turn called a Death Spiral feels like flying level. That
may be what happened to JFK Jr.
http://www.copanational.org/ChocktoChockApr12.cfm
"If disorientation does occur, we must force concentration and believe
the instruments no matter what sensations we feel physically. If we
try to fly by the seat of our pants, a spiral dive will almost
certainly occur."

I don't use the cruise control on trips. Instead I force myself to pay
attention to holding my speed.
-jsw

Ed Huntress wrote:
When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,”
according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active
Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

“[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a
natural experience.”

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?


Hey it will make servicing them easier. Customer comes in complaining
that the engine sounds rough while idling, the tech can just dial up the
stereo volume to cover the odd sounds...

--
Steve W.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT
magazine
(in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that
shows
the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of
cross
streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and
the
potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles.

It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness
enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which
integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders
in nearby planes.

The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield.

And we thought phones were distracting?

I've seen what I thought were very annoying reflections of the dash in
German cars, but maybe they are used to it.
-jsw

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:


Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn
Carney

who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called
?Active

Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder
Mustang

comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out
some

coarse noise.





===============================================



Have they no sense of decency, sir?



--

Ed Huntress

Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the
bystanders are spared the noise.

Dan

But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?

Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would
have
wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT
magazine
(in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that
shows
the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of
cross
streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and
the
potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles.

It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness
enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which
integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders
in nearby planes.

The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield.

-jsw

Ha! Think of how much technology is going to be redundant or
irrelevant when the cars start driving us.

--
Ed Huntress

The boredom problem has been known and studied for a long time in
aircraft.

The airline joke is that the cockpit of the future will hold a pilot
and a dog. The pilot's job is to feed the dog, the dog's is to bite
him if he touches the controls.

The voice transcript of the Air France jet that fell into the Atlantic
is a serious wake-up about relying excessively on automation and the
judgement of its programmers. They made a small mistake at ~37000 feet
that put them in a flat high-speed stall, because the air is so thin.
Then they fell all the way to the ocean in a plane with nothing wrong
with it most of the way down, after the ice melted from the air speed
sensors. It stayed relatively flat, responding clumsily but properly
to the controls, but it gave them a stall warning when they nosed down
and gained speed, the proper corrective action, because the stall
warning shut off below about 60 Kts and came back on when they
accelerated past its lower limit. So instead of flying the plane the
way he knew was right the captain followed the computer's incorrect
warnings. They repeatedly said they didn't understand what was
happening to them,
"j'ai plus le controle de l'avion la"
"qu'est-cequi se passe?"
"on a tout perdu le controle de l'avion on comprend rien on a tout
tente"
"on n'a aucune indication qui soit valable"
"c'est pas possible"

In his defense pilots can't correctly sense what the plane is doing at
night in clouds and should trust the instruments instead. The
descending turn called a Death Spiral feels like flying level. That
may be what happened to JFK Jr.
http://www.copanational.org/ChocktoChockApr12.cfm
"If disorientation does occur, we must force concentration and believe
the instruments no matter what sensations we feel physically. If we
try to fly by the seat of our pants, a spiral dive will almost
certainly occur."

I don't use the cruise control on trips. Instead I force myself to pay
attention to holding my speed.
-jsw

Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the hood on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall, though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn, losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and decided to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:20:10 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,”
according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active
Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

“[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a
natural experience.”

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?


Hey it will make servicing them easier. Customer comes in complaining
that the engine sounds rough while idling, the tech can just dial up the
stereo volume to cover the odd sounds...

Ha! A great thought. I wonder if they thought about that?

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the hood
on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall, though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn, losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been
installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the
street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that
day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and decided to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

The Buddy Holly crash may have been caused by an unfamiliar artificial
horizon that read the reverse of normal. Think of an ordinary
gyroscope whose rear edge would rise as you climbed and drop as you
descended.
-jsw

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:52:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the hood
on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall, though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn, losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been
installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the
street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that
day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and decided to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

The Buddy Holly crash may have been caused by an unfamiliar artificial
horizon that read the reverse of normal. Think of an ordinary
gyroscope whose rear edge would rise as you climbed and drop as you
descended.
-jsw

Hmm. Interesting. I don't get why it would read in reverse, but that's
OK. I don't even like to think about artificial horizons. I still get
a chill thinking about it.

I came to like the piece of yarn on the windshield and the ball-type
turn and bank indicator on the gliders I flew in college. That's my
kind of simplicity. Nothing to go wrong -- sort of. g

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:52:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the hood
on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight
and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall,
though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn, losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't
budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks
left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been
installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a
Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the
street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But
they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that
day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and decided
to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

The Buddy Holly crash may have been caused by an unfamiliar
artificial
horizon that read the reverse of normal. Think of an ordinary
gyroscope whose rear edge would rise as you climbed and drop as you
descended.
-jsw

Hmm. Interesting. I don't get why it would read in reverse, but
that's
OK. I don't even like to think about artificial horizons. I still
get
a chill thinking about it.

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/cab.htm
"The Sperry F3 gyro also provides a direct reading indication of the
bank and pitch attitude of the aircraft, but its pictorial
presentation is achieved by using a stabilized sphere whose
free-floating movements behind a miniature aircraft presents pitch
information with a sensing exactly opposite from that depicted by the
conventional artificial horizon."

"Since Peterson had received his instrument training in aircraft
equipped with the conventional type artificial horizon, and since this
instrument and the attitude gyro are opposite in their pictorial
display of the pitch attitude, it is probably that the reverse sensing
would at times produce reverse control action."

CFIT, Controlled Flight Into Terrain.


I came to like the piece of yarn on the windshield and the ball-type
turn and bank indicator on the gliders I flew in college. That's my
kind of simplicity. Nothing to go wrong -- sort of. g

--
Ed Huntress

I started with hang gliding, no distracting instruments at all, just
gravel-pit bushes and rocks looming in front of me. On my sixth
landing I finally judged the flare timing correctly and landed neatly
on a boulder, then gave it up for the less bone-breaking hobby of dirt
bikes.

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:50:34 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

On 9/27/2014 4:41 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
...
I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.

There's the app: your choice of engine sound. Select from a library of
iconic cars. Or cycles. Or whatever. Maybe a chainsaw for a silly
choice.

Bob

I wouldn't be surprised if someone was already on the job.

Now, if I could get a holographic GTO body to go with it...

--
Ed Huntress


NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

You want a hologram of a Chevy Vega for your Ferrari 250 GTO.

The ultimate sleeper. LOL.

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:50:54 AM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "




But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?



Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have

wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)


Ed Huntress

I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being advertised.

The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph thru a school zone.

Dan

Ed Huntress fired this volley in
:

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and decided to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

I did something similar, but for different reasons.

I went through all the hood hours, all the 'actual' hours, sat for the
test, and took my check ride. But I would NOT apply for the ticket.

I was flying "in the pursuit of business" at the time, all over the
Southeast, and the training got me out of some really bad pinches a few
times. But I had a really _bad_ and selfish boss who would have insisted
I fly in actual conditions, if I'd had the ticket. And I had no desire
to be flying in bad IFR, terribly fatiqued, and in a hurry. So I just
never got the license, and flew the sunshine express for a decade or more
before moving on to another position that didn't require it as much.

The training was a boon, though.

LLoyd

wrote in message
...

I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know
the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being
advertised.

The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph
thru a school zone.

Dan

Driving home from a party at 3AM is like that but the cops have no one
but me to draw their attention, so I stay close to the speed limit.

3AM is when the bars in Heidelberg closed. I always made next
morning's formation and didn't look any worse than the rest of the
unit, since we had all been out together. I had the advantage of
college practice in how to function after an all-nighter.

Once I rode my motorcycle around Boston after Sat/Sun midnight on a
3-day weekend to familiarize myself with its jumble of one-way
streets. I very nearly had the city all to myself. Among other things
I learned to buy saddlebags and always carry rain gear, because on the
highway rain feels like a shower of gravel.

I was on second shift for a while in Army electronics school at Ft
Monmouth, NJ. After getting out at 11PM I rode my bicycle to and along
the utterly deserted beach. Many nights I didn't see a single car.
What traffic there is that late appears to be TV morning show staff
and hospital shift changes.

-jsw

On 9/27/2014 12:33 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:14:49 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:

When Road & Track?s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of
the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the
engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang ? ?the original pony car,?
according to Jalopnik ? has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise
through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active
Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

?[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what?s
already there,? Carney told Autoblog. ?The intent is to be a natural
experience.?

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes-
some-engine-noise/

FWIW, I still remember the smooth rumble when I got on the gas of my
66 Ford Galaxy 500 with cherry bombs. It has been 40 years, but still a
fond memory!
Mikek

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 01:04:43 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:52:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the hood
on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight
and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall,
though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn, losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't
budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks
left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been
installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a
Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the
street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But
they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that
day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and decided
to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

The Buddy Holly crash may have been caused by an unfamiliar
artificial
horizon that read the reverse of normal. Think of an ordinary
gyroscope whose rear edge would rise as you climbed and drop as you
descended.
-jsw

Hmm. Interesting. I don't get why it would read in reverse, but
that's
OK. I don't even like to think about artificial horizons. I still
get
a chill thinking about it.

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/cab.htm
"The Sperry F3 gyro also provides a direct reading indication of the
bank and pitch attitude of the aircraft, but its pictorial
presentation is achieved by using a stabilized sphere whose
free-floating movements behind a miniature aircraft presents pitch
information with a sensing exactly opposite from that depicted by the
conventional artificial horizon."

"Since Peterson had received his instrument training in aircraft
equipped with the conventional type artificial horizon, and since this
instrument and the attitude gyro are opposite in their pictorial
display of the pitch attitude, it is probably that the reverse sensing
would at times produce reverse control action."

CFIT, Controlled Flight Into Terrain.

Aha. That reminds me of the virtual trackball orientation of Ashlar's
3D CAD program Vellum -- the first, wireframe version IIRC -- that
worked like that. It drove me nuts for a while.



I came to like the piece of yarn on the windshield and the ball-type
turn and bank indicator on the gliders I flew in college. That's my
kind of simplicity. Nothing to go wrong -- sort of. g

--
Ed Huntress

I started with hang gliding, no distracting instruments at all, just
gravel-pit bushes and rocks looming in front of me. On my sixth
landing I finally judged the flare timing correctly and landed neatly
on a boulder, then gave it up for the less bone-breaking hobby of dirt
bikes.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:14:08 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:50:54 AM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "




But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance?



Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have

wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-)


Ed Huntress

I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being advertised.

The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph thru a school zone.

You bet. It really loses its cache when it's stuck in traffic. g

Ed Huntress

Dan

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both
the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car.

It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,”
according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine
noise through the speakers.

Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney
who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active
Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang
comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some
coarse noise.

“[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of
what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a
natural experience.”

http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/

===============================================

Have they no sense of decency, sir?

Merely a variation of the insanely popular custom of removing or
swapping out the muffler on Harleys to get that fart ripping sound of
(no) power. Whenever I reel one in and the owner desperately twists
his noise rheostat in a futile attempt to minimize his shame, I'm
momentarily forced to listen to all sixty five ponies bleating about
having to live under a jackass's crack. But hey, the owner's brief
glimpse of their do-rags in my mirror probably makes up for having all
the acceleration but none of the utility of a slant six Dodge Dart.

Scientific demonstration of the phenomenon.
http://vimeo.com/15758959

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:22:44 AM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message

...

I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know

the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being

advertised.

The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph

thru a school zone.

Driving home from a party at 3AM is like that but the cops have no one

but me to draw their attention, so I stay close to the speed limit.

3AM is when the bars in Heidelberg closed. I always made next

morning's formation and didn't look any worse than the rest of the

unit, since we had all been out together. I had the advantage of

college practice in how to function after an all-nighter.


Once I rode my motorcycle around Boston after Sat/Sun midnight on a

3-day weekend to familiarize myself with its jumble of one-way

streets. I very nearly had the city all to myself. Among other things

I learned to buy saddlebags and always carry rain gear, because on the

highway rain feels like a shower of gravel.

I could imagine. I never got to close to motorcycling, because rain could seem like it comes from nowhere. I hate seeing those motorcycles staying under overpasses until it dies down.

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 01:04:43 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:52:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the
hood
on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight
and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall,
though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn,
losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with
the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't
budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks
left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been
installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a
Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the
street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had
the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But
they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that
day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and
decided
to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

The Buddy Holly crash may have been caused by an unfamiliar
artificial
horizon that read the reverse of normal. Think of an ordinary
gyroscope whose rear edge would rise as you climbed and drop as
you
descended.
-jsw

Hmm. Interesting. I don't get why it would read in reverse, but
that's
OK. I don't even like to think about artificial horizons. I still
get
a chill thinking about it.

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/cab.htm
"The Sperry F3 gyro also provides a direct reading indication of the
bank and pitch attitude of the aircraft, but its pictorial
presentation is achieved by using a stabilized sphere whose
free-floating movements behind a miniature aircraft presents pitch
information with a sensing exactly opposite from that depicted by
the
conventional artificial horizon."

"Since Peterson had received his instrument training in aircraft
equipped with the conventional type artificial horizon, and since
this
instrument and the attitude gyro are opposite in their pictorial
display of the pitch attitude, it is probably that the reverse
sensing
would at times produce reverse control action."

CFIT, Controlled Flight Into Terrain.

Aha. That reminds me of the virtual trackball orientation of
Ashlar's
3D CAD program Vellum -- the first, wireframe version IIRC -- that
worked like that. It drove me nuts for a while.

The Sperry version is mechanically simpler, just the single floating
sphere, and I assume intended to be more reliable. I wrote the
gyroscope explanation to see if I could improve on the vague
description in that article.

Here's what the F3 looks like, with the dark ground on top and the
light sky on the bottom
http://www.lets-go-fly.com/safety-one.html
-jsw

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:33:34 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 01:04:43 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:52:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:16:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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Instructor, to budding 17-year-old pilot Ed, who is under the
hood
on
his first IFR training: "Do you feel like you're flying straight
and
level?"

Ed: "Yes, sort of. It feels like I'm pulling out of a stall,
though;
everything feels heavy."

Instructor: "Lift your hood."

[Ed lifts hood, realizes he's in 20-degree controlled turn,
losing
altitude.]

Ed levels out visually: "I think there's something wrong with
the
artificial horizon." [Horizon says wings are level; it hasn't
budged
through the turn or afterwards.]

Instructor looks at artificial horizon, takes the stick, banks
left
and then right: "Holy ****!"

g What happened was that new/old instruments had just been
installed
in the Cessna 152. They had been removed the day before from a
Beech
Musketeer that had stalled and crashed, at the end of Princeton
airport, through the roof of the Pontiac dealership across the
street.

Anyway, the instruments checked out OK, and they no longer had
the
Musketeer for IFR training, so they put them in the Cessna. But
they
weren't OK. I had my eyes glued to the horizon and the airspeed
indicator, hardly noticing the compass.

If someone had taken off on a real IFR flight in that plane that
day,
he probably would have died.

It was a great lesson to me. I abandoned IFR training and
decided
to
stick to flying in nice weather. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

The Buddy Holly crash may have been caused by an unfamiliar
artificial
horizon that read the reverse of normal. Think of an ordinary
gyroscope whose rear edge would rise as you climbed and drop as
you
descended.
-jsw

Hmm. Interesting. I don't get why it would read in reverse, but
that's
OK. I don't even like to think about artificial horizons. I still
get
a chill thinking about it.

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/cab.htm
"The Sperry F3 gyro also provides a direct reading indication of the
bank and pitch attitude of the aircraft, but its pictorial
presentation is achieved by using a stabilized sphere whose
free-floating movements behind a miniature aircraft presents pitch
information with a sensing exactly opposite from that depicted by
the
conventional artificial horizon."

"Since Peterson had received his instrument training in aircraft
equipped with the conventional type artificial horizon, and since
this
instrument and the attitude gyro are opposite in their pictorial
display of the pitch attitude, it is probably that the reverse
sensing
would at times produce reverse control action."

CFIT, Controlled Flight Into Terrain.

Aha. That reminds me of the virtual trackball orientation of
Ashlar's
3D CAD program Vellum -- the first, wireframe version IIRC -- that
worked like that. It drove me nuts for a while.

The Sperry version is mechanically simpler, just the single floating
sphere, and I assume intended to be more reliable. I wrote the
gyroscope explanation to see if I could improve on the vague
description in that article.

Here's what the F3 looks like, with the dark ground on top and the
light sky on the bottom
http://www.lets-go-fly.com/safety-one.html
-jsw


Hmmm.. That looks familiar somehow.

BTW, the premise of that website is somewhat undercut by the lead
sentence:

"Safety begines with knowlete."

I'll take their word for it. g

--
Ed Huntress

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On Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:22:44 AM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
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...Among other things

I learned to buy saddlebags and always carry rain gear, because
on the

highway rain feels like a shower of gravel.

I could imagine. I never got to close to motorcycling, because rain
could seem like it comes from nowhere. I hate seeing those
motorcycles staying under overpasses until it dies down.

It isn't hard to dress adequately for rain and the face shield is so
close that water on it is out of focus, and blown flat instead of
beading, not nearly as bad as a car with broken wipers. The best
reason for parking under highway bridges is to stay out of the
blinding spray from trucks. IFR conditions on a bike are no fun at
all. Another is that painted pavement markings can be very slippery
when wet.