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When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive
of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,” according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. “[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural experience.” http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:
When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,” according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. “[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural experience.” http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes- some-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? It sounds like the logo for that particular car should be an ace of spades and a clothspin. (Does anyone still do that?) -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:14:49 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: When Road & Track?s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang ? ?the original pony car,? according to Jalopnik ? has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. ?[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what?s already there,? Carney told Autoblog. ?The intent is to be a natural experience.? http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes- some-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? They have no sense, period. It sounds like the logo for that particular car should be an ace of spades and a clothspin. (Does anyone still do that?) One would _hope_ not, sir. -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On 9/27/2014 12:33 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:14:49 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: When Road & Track?s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang ? ?the original pony car,? according to Jalopnik ? has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. ?[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what?s already there,? Carney told Autoblog. ?The intent is to be a natural experience.? http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes- some-engine-noise/ FWIW, I still remember the smooth rumble when I got on the gas of my 66 Ford Galaxy 500 with cherry bombs. It has been 40 years, but still a fond memory! Mikek |
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"amdx" wrote in message ... FWIW, I still remember the smooth rumble when I got on the gas of my 66 Ford Galaxy 500 with cherry bombs. It has been 40 years, but still a fond memory! Mikek I had a 1952 caddy, that I pulled out of a farmers field. It was rusted up with no exhaust left I rebuilt the engine and, to test it out, I just stuck a pair of glasspacks on at the very end where the exhaust went out the bumper. These mufflers had a little vaned disk in the end to provide some back pressure. When I opened up the secondaries on the Carter Carb, the mufflers would warble. It sounded like the flying saucer from some old sci fi flick. Got a lot of strange looks when you passed someone on the highway. Paul K. Dickman |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:35:39 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: "amdx" wrote in message ... FWIW, I still remember the smooth rumble when I got on the gas of my 66 Ford Galaxy 500 with cherry bombs. It has been 40 years, but still a fond memory! Mikek I had a 1952 caddy, that I pulled out of a farmers field. It was rusted up with no exhaust left I rebuilt the engine and, to test it out, I just stuck a pair of glasspacks on at the very end where the exhaust went out the bumper. These mufflers had a little vaned disk in the end to provide some back pressure. When I opened up the secondaries on the Carter Carb, the mufflers would warble. It sounded like the flying saucer from some old sci fi flick. Got a lot of strange looks when you passed someone on the highway. Paul K. Dickman Being a Caddy I'd almost bet that "Carter" was actually a Rochester - a 4GC to be exact. |
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On 9/28/2014 8:45 AM, amdx wrote:
On 9/27/2014 12:33 PM, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:14:49 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: When Road & Track?s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang ? ?the original pony car,? according to Jalopnik ? has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. ?[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what?s already there,? Carney told Autoblog. ?The intent is to be a natural experience.? http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...coboost-fakes- some-engine-noise/ FWIW, I still remember the smooth rumble when I got on the gas of my 66 Ford Galaxy 500 with cherry bombs. It has been 40 years, but still a fond memory! Mikek Don't know why I wrote Galaxy, it was a 66 Ford Fairlane 500. Mikek |
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amdx fired this volley in news:m0d0v7$mvk$1@dont-
email.me: Don't know why I wrote Galaxy, it was a 66 Ford Fairlane 500. Mikek I don't know either. The big white '68 Galaxy Convertable with Fire Engine Red _leather_ interior, front buckets, back sin bench, Hurst in the middle, BBBIIGG Holley, 8-track, and all the outside toys was MINE! But, then, gas was 23.9c per gallon, too! G Lloyd |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Give them time; there will be an app for that. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message . .. When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Give them time; there will be an app for that. How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL. |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:38:42 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Give them time; there will be an app for that. How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL. Aha. The "ring-ding" app -- your choice of Kawasaki or Yamaha. g I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO. -- Ed Huntress |
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On 9/27/2014 4:41 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
.... I want my car to sound like a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO. There's the app: your choice of engine sound. Select from a library of iconic cars. Or cycles. Or whatever. Maybe a chainsaw for a silly choice. Bob |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:38:42 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Give them time; there will be an app for that. How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL. Or better yet, a "Buzzin' Dozen" |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Give them time; there will be an app for that. How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL. Blasphemer! The Allison V-1710 was the original engine of the REAL Mustang, the P-51, and of my sentimental favorite the P-40. Tho I'd gladly settle for the sound of the British Merlin that gave the P-51B/C high altitude performance. -jsw |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:47:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:54:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message m... When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Give them time; there will be an app for that. How about the whine of a high revving 2 stroke. LOL. Blasphemer! The Allison V-1710 was the original engine of the REAL Mustang, the P-51, and of my sentimental favorite the P-40. Tho I'd gladly settle for the sound of the British Merlin that gave the P-51B/C high altitude performance. Love the Mustang's roar. But who's to say the rice burners don't have an exquisite sound themselves? (Heh, heh, heh. Most of us, prolly. -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On 9/27/2014 11:54 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress I wonder if they can simulate the sweet exhaust purr of a V-12 Allison. -jsw Or an Inline 12 Jag ! Martin |
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On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:
Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called �Active Noise Control,� and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise. Dan |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote: Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise. Dan But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance? Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote: Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise. Dan But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance? Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-) -- Ed Huntress I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine (in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles. It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders in nearby planes. The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield. -jsw |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote: Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise. Dan But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance? Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-) -- Ed Huntress I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine (in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles. It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders in nearby planes. The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield. -jsw Ha! Think of how much technology is going to be redundant or irrelevant when the cars start driving us. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:29:57 PM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote: Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called ?Active Noise Control,? and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? -- Ed Huntress Sounds like a winner to me. The driver gets the sound and the bystanders are spared the noise. Dan But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance? Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-) -- Ed Huntress I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine (in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles. It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders in nearby planes. The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield. -jsw Ha! Think of how much technology is going to be redundant or irrelevant when the cars start driving us. -- Ed Huntress The boredom problem has been known and studied for a long time in aircraft. The airline joke is that the cockpit of the future will hold a pilot and a dog. The pilot's job is to feed the dog, the dog's is to bite him if he touches the controls. The voice transcript of the Air France jet that fell into the Atlantic is a serious wake-up about relying excessively on automation and the judgement of its programmers. They made a small mistake at ~37000 feet that put them in a flat high-speed stall, because the air is so thin. Then they fell all the way to the ocean in a plane with nothing wrong with it most of the way down, after the ice melted from the air speed sensors. It stayed relatively flat, responding clumsily but properly to the controls, but it gave them a stall warning when they nosed down and gained speed, the proper corrective action, because the stall warning shut off below about 60 Kts and came back on when they accelerated past its lower limit. So instead of flying the plane the way he knew was right the captain followed the computer's incorrect warnings. They repeatedly said they didn't understand what was happening to them, "j'ai plus le controle de l'avion la" "qu'est-cequi se passe?" "on a tout perdu le controle de l'avion on comprend rien on a tout tente" "on n'a aucune indication qui soit valable" "c'est pas possible" In his defense pilots can't correctly sense what the plane is doing at night in clouds and should trust the instruments instead. The descending turn called a Death Spiral feels like flying level. That may be what happened to JFK Jr. http://www.copanational.org/ChocktoChockApr12.cfm "If disorientation does occur, we must force concentration and believe the instruments no matter what sensations we feel physically. If we try to fly by the seat of our pants, a spiral dive will almost certainly occur." I don't use the cruise control on trips. Instead I force myself to pay attention to holding my speed. -jsw |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine (in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles. It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders in nearby planes. The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield. And we thought phones were distracting? -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:19:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: I just received the first issue of the new Mercedes-Benz NEXT magazine (in German) that describes a system with a heads-up display that shows the driver everything going on around him, such as the names of cross streets, traffic jams, distances to gas pumps and parking lots and the potentially hazardous actions of other vehicles. It looks a lot like the Free Flight aircraft situational-awareness enhancement system Mitre built for the FAA in the 90's, which integrated GPS, ground radar, weather data and location transponders in nearby planes. The back-seat driver is now projected on the windshield. And we thought phones were distracting? I've seen what I thought were very annoying reflections of the dash in German cars, but maybe they are used to it. -jsw |
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On Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:50:54 AM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), " But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance? Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-) Ed Huntress I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being advertised. The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph thru a school zone. Dan |
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... I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being advertised. The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph thru a school zone. Dan Driving home from a party at 3AM is like that but the cops have no one but me to draw their attention, so I stay close to the speed limit. 3AM is when the bars in Heidelberg closed. I always made next morning's formation and didn't look any worse than the rest of the unit, since we had all been out together. I had the advantage of college practice in how to function after an all-nighter. Once I rode my motorcycle around Boston after Sat/Sun midnight on a 3-day weekend to familiarize myself with its jumble of one-way streets. I very nearly had the city all to myself. Among other things I learned to buy saddlebags and always carry rain gear, because on the highway rain feels like a shower of gravel. I was on second shift for a while in Army electronics school at Ft Monmouth, NJ. After getting out at 11PM I rode my bicycle to and along the utterly deserted beach. Many nights I didn't see a single car. What traffic there is that late appears to be TV morning show staff and hospital shift changes. -jsw |
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On Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:22:44 AM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message ... I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being advertised. The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph thru a school zone. Driving home from a party at 3AM is like that but the cops have no one but me to draw their attention, so I stay close to the speed limit. 3AM is when the bars in Heidelberg closed. I always made next morning's formation and didn't look any worse than the rest of the unit, since we had all been out together. I had the advantage of college practice in how to function after an all-nighter. Once I rode my motorcycle around Boston after Sat/Sun midnight on a 3-day weekend to familiarize myself with its jumble of one-way streets. I very nearly had the city all to myself. Among other things I learned to buy saddlebags and always carry rain gear, because on the highway rain feels like a shower of gravel. I could imagine. I never got to close to motorcycling, because rain could seem like it comes from nowhere. I hate seeing those motorcycles staying under overpasses until it dies down. |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:14:08 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:50:54 AM UTC, Ed Huntress wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:42:48 -0700 (PDT), " But...but...where's the *authenticity*? Where's the romance? Thank God it's a Mustang. If it was a Jaguar or a Lotus, I would have wanted to shoot its tires out. d8-) Ed Huntress I have always wanted a car like you see in cohmercials. You know the ads where there is no traffic on the road except the car being advertised. The authenticity is that the car is stuck in traffic or going 15 mph thru a school zone. You bet. It really loses its cache when it's stuck in traffic. g Ed Huntress Dan |
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Ed Huntress wrote:
When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,” according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. “[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural experience.” http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? Hey it will make servicing them easier. Customer comes in complaining that the engine sounds rough while idling, the tech can just dial up the stereo volume to cover the odd sounds... -- Steve W. |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:20:10 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,” according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. “[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural experience.” http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? Hey it will make servicing them easier. Customer comes in complaining that the engine sounds rough while idling, the tech can just dial up the stereo volume to cover the odd sounds... Ha! A great thought. I wonder if they thought about that? -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote: When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,” according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. “[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural experience.” http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? Merely a variation of the insanely popular custom of removing or swapping out the muffler on Harleys to get that fart ripping sound of (no) power. Whenever I reel one in and the owner desperately twists his noise rheostat in a futile attempt to minimize his shame, I'm momentarily forced to listen to all sixty five ponies bleating about having to live under a jackass's crack. But hey, the owner's brief glimpse of their do-rags in my mirror probably makes up for having all the acceleration but none of the utility of a slant six Dodge Dart. Scientific demonstration of the phenomenon. http://vimeo.com/15758959 |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 07:27:11 -0700, whoyakidding's ghost
wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: When Road & Track’s Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang – “the original pony car,” according to Jalopnik – has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called “Active Noise Control,” and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. “[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what’s already there,” Carney told Autoblog. “The intent is to be a natural experience.” http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ ============================================== = Have they no sense of decency, sir? Merely a variation of the insanely popular custom of removing or swapping out the muffler on Harleys to get that fart ripping sound of (no) power. Whenever I reel one in and the owner desperately twists his noise rheostat in a futile attempt to minimize his shame, I'm momentarily forced to listen to all sixty five ponies bleating about having to live under a jackass's crack. But hey, the owner's brief glimpse of their do-rags in my mirror probably makes up for having all the acceleration but none of the utility of a slant six Dodge Dart. Scientific demonstration of the phenomenon. http://vimeo.com/15758959 Oh, that's funny. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:27:11 AM UTC-4, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:29:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: When Road & Track's Jason Cammisa busted a fuse during a recent drive of the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, he discovered something odd. Both the engine and the stereo went silent inside the car. It appears that the vaunted Ford Mustang - "the original pony car," according to Jalopnik - has succumbed to piping in enhanced engine noise through the speakers. Autoblog investigated further, speaking to Ford engineer Shawn Carney who revealed that the engine-sound augmenting system is called "Active Noise Control," and that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with it. The system both enhances noise and cancels out some coarse noise. "[The system] layer[s] in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," Carney told Autoblog. "The intent is to be a natural experience." http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/r...-engine-noise/ =============================================== Have they no sense of decency, sir? Merely a variation of the insanely popular custom of removing or swapping out the muffler on Harleys to get that fart ripping sound of (no) power. Whenever I reel one in and the owner desperately twists his noise rheostat in a futile attempt to minimize his shame, I'm momentarily forced to listen to all sixty five ponies bleating about having to live under a jackass's crack. But hey, the owner's brief glimpse of their do-rags in my mirror probably makes up for having all the acceleration but none of the utility of a slant six Dodge Dart. Scientific demonstration of the phenomenon. http://vimeo.com/15758959 That hit the nail on the head, alright. 40-odd (some of them very odd) years ago I worked at a Honda shop in a rather seedy area of the Bronx. One of the most popular jobs we did there was drilling a half-dozen holes in the rear muffler baffles of CB750s to make them sound "throatier." This required no adjustments to carburation, nor any adjustments to timing. It had zero effect on performance, but it did make the customers feel more manly and it did make them hand over cash to the boss. |
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