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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are
thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 3/28/2012 12:52 PM, anorton wrote:
Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. Your story link doesn't say anything about the brushes being either "cheap" or "imported", asshole. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 3/28/2012 11:52 AM, anorton wrote:
Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. Makes me want to inspect the grill after brushing.... I'd rather find bristles there than in a mouthful of burger! Jon |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
"anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
"anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 3/28/2012 2:18 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
"anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. I have brushed the grills of Weber kettle barbecues countless times, and have never once seen a fragment of wire adhere to the grill following brushing. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
"Delvin Benet" ýt wrote in message ... On 3/28/2012 12:52 PM, anorton wrote: Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. Your story link doesn't say anything about the brushes being either "cheap" or "imported", asshole. I think by definition, grill brushes that shed wires are cheap even if not inexpensive. Given that this is a recent phenomenon and Tom has been complaining of cheap imported grill brushes flooding the market, am I really an asshole to make this assumption? I dislike Tom's politics and general attitudes towards society as much anyone here, but if his company makes brushes that do not injure people, then I see it as a public service to help keep them on the market. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
George Plimpton fired this volley in
: I have brushed the grills of Weber kettle barbecues countless times, and have never once seen a fragment of wire adhere to the grill following brushing. A lot of this is the "Two Democrats on an Escalator" syndrome. If one brushes the grill, one would _ordinarily_ inspect the work -- maybe to find bristles, but at least to see if it was clean. Doing so would divulge if there were bristles left there. But, like the video mentioned above, once brushed, "There's nothing else we can do" if you're a typical "let the gov'mint take care of it" pap swiller. It's _always_ someone else's fault. LLoyd |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
Should the government be empowered to warn us about everything dangerous?
Do not use grille brush while grille is hot, and the burner is turned on! Do not use grille brush while driving in Los Angeles rush hour traffic! Do not use grille brush to do baby's hair! Do not use grille brush to wipe baby's butt! Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message .. . Should the government be empowered to warn us about everything dangerous? Do not use grille brush while grille is hot, and the burner is turned on! Do not use grille brush while driving in Los Angeles rush hour traffic! Do not use grille brush to do baby's hair! Do not use grille brush to wipe baby's butt! Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org __________________________________________________ ______ That's EXACTLY the sticker I use! .. "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
I think I might have used one of your grille brushes last week. That's where
I read the warning. Fortunately, the metal piece got Scooter, and he's not worth saving. All he does is preschool, and he's not even reading Dr. Seuss yet. Sad part, is that there are probably 100 attorneys reading this list, and think the sticker you put on, doesn't go far enough. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message .. . Should the government be empowered to warn us about everything dangerous? Do not use grille brush while grille is hot, and the burner is turned on! Do not use grille brush while driving in Los Angeles rush hour traffic! Do not use grille brush to do baby's hair! Do not use grille brush to wipe baby's butt! Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org __________________________________________________ ______ That's EXACTLY the sticker I use! .. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
Stormin Mormon wrote: Should the government be empowered to warn us about everything dangerous? Do not use grille brush while grille is hot, and the burner is turned on! Do not use grille brush while driving in Los Angeles rush hour traffic! Do not use grille brush to do baby's hair! Do not use grille brush to wipe baby's butt! Do use a grille brush on liberal trolls! Use two! -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 3/28/2012 5:22 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 3/28/2012 2:18 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: "anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. I have brushed the grills of Weber kettle barbecues countless times, and have never once seen a fragment of wire adhere to the grill following brushing. Commercial grills are very different and cooks are grilling under pressure to get the food out. Brushing is supposed to be only part of the cleaning protocol. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 3/29/2012 4:28 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: Should the government be empowered to warn us about everything dangerous? Do not use grille brush while grille is hot, and the burner is turned on! Do not use grille brush while driving in Los Angeles rush hour traffic! Do not use grille brush to do baby's hair! Do not use grille brush to wipe baby's butt! Do use a grille brush on liberal trolls! Use two! ....and throw both away and buy new ones! |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
Oh, gosh, don't want to catch liberalism.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tom Gardner" mars@tacks wrote in message ... Do use a grille brush on liberal trolls! Use two! ....and throw both away and buy new ones! |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
In article ,
"Tom Gardner" wrote: "anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. This may be heresy, but I don't use a brush to clean the grill any more. Not that I ever had bristles coming loose. I cook burgers very hot, usually 450 F, and quick (larger burgers get cooler longer), and find that if I scrub the brill bars with a stainless steel curly scour pad while thr grill is still that hot, the grum comes right off. The scour pad is held with 18" long tongs, so my fingers don't cook. I got the idea when I was a kid working at McDonalds, watching the short-order cook, who was a pro. He used a steel scraper followed by a wet rag swirled around with tongs. The grill was a big (3' by 4', if memory serves) heavy (1/2") sheet of mild steel. Joe Gwinn |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 3/30/2012 7:34 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In , "Tom wrote: "anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. This may be heresy, but I don't use a brush to clean the grill any more. Not that I ever had bristles coming loose. I cook burgers very hot, usually 450 F, and quick (larger burgers get cooler longer), and find that if I scrub the brill bars with a stainless steel curly scour pad while thr grill is still that hot, the grum comes right off. The scour pad is held with 18" long tongs, so my fingers don't cook. I got the idea when I was a kid working at McDonalds, watching the short-order cook, who was a pro. He used a steel scraper followed by a wet rag swirled around with tongs. The grill was a big (3' by 4', if memory serves) heavy (1/2") sheet of mild steel. Joe Gwinn You've got the ticket! But, I do have a consumer grill brush in prototype and testing stage that the likes of which has never been imagined before! However, at $30+ retail price it's going to be tough unless I can get costs down. Also, I will last for a very, very long time...another negative, be dishwasher safe and versions for work on porcelain, stainless and cast iron grills. It's a spin on a brush especially developed for "Outback Steakhouse" wood-burning grills. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
"anorton" wrote in message m... "Delvin Benet" ýt wrote in message ... On 3/28/2012 12:52 PM, anorton wrote: Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. Your story link doesn't say anything about the brushes being either "cheap" or "imported", asshole. I think by definition, grill brushes that shed wires are cheap even if not inexpensive. Given that this is a recent phenomenon and Tom has been complaining of cheap imported grill brushes flooding the market, am I really an asshole to make this assumption? I dislike Tom's politics and general attitudes towards society as much anyone here, but if his company makes brushes that do not injure people, then I see it as a public service to help keep them on the market. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. Anyone can take anything and hurt themselves. I've picked out dozens of pieces of wire from all over my body from the small $20 cup knot Makita brushes, and I'd call that a "decent" brush. Oh, did I mention that I have the presence of mind to use my face shield every time I use a high rpm brush? Others can and will do as they want. I don't wish blindness on anyone, even an asshole. Steve |
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... Grill brushes,
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:46:36 -0400, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 3/30/2012 7:34 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: .... This may be heresy, but I don't use a brush to clean the grill any more. Not that I ever had bristles coming loose. I cook burgers very hot, usually 450 F, and quick (larger burgers get cooler longer), and find that if I scrub the brill bars with a stainless steel curly scour pad while the grill is still that hot, the grum comes right off. The scour pad is held with 18" long tongs, so my fingers don't cook. I got the idea when I was a kid working at McDonalds, watching the short-order cook, who was a pro. He used a steel scraper followed by a wet rag swirled around with tongs. The grill was a big (3' by 4', if memory serves) heavy (1/2") sheet of mild steel. You've got the ticket! But, I do have a consumer grill brush in prototype and testing stage that the likes of which has never been imagined before! However, at $30+ retail price it's going to be tough unless I can get costs down. Also, I will last for a very, very long time...another negative, be dishwasher safe and versions for work on porcelain, stainless and cast iron grills. It's a spin on a brush especially developed for "Outback Steakhouse" wood-burning grills. Tom, you apparently mean that $30+ retail is an already-decided price, and that it will be difficult to make a profit. Is the problem due to materials costs, or complicated assembly process, or tight pricing? (I realize that as manufacturer you only get a fraction of the retail price, but don't know if that fraction is close to 2/3 or closer to 1/3.) Regarding manufacturing, is assembly technically but not economically (at this point) feasible to automate? Or not feasible technically? -- jiw |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
In article ,
Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote: On 3/30/2012 7:34 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In , "Tom wrote: "anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. This may be heresy, but I don't use a brush to clean the grill any more. Not that I ever had bristles coming loose. I cook burgers very hot, usually 450 F, and quick (larger burgers get cooked cooler for longer), and find that if I scrub the brill bars with a stainless steel curly scour pad while thr grill is still that hot, the grum comes right off. The scour pad is held with 18" long tongs, so my fingers don't cook. I got the idea when I was a kid working at McDonalds, watching the short-order cook, who was a pro. He used a steel scraper followed by a wet rag swirled around with tongs. The grill was a big (3' by 4', if memory serves) heavy (1/2") sheet of mild steel. Joe Gwinn You've got the ticket! But, I do have a consumer grill brush in prototype and testing stage that the likes of which has never been imagined before! However, at $30+ retail price it's going to be tough unless I can get costs down. Also, I will last for a very, very long time...another negative, be dishwasher safe and versions for work on porcelain, stainless and cast iron grills. It's a spin on a brush especially developed for "Outback Steakhouse" wood-burning grills. Are photos yet available? If there is any plastic used, it must not be much damaged by accidental contact with metal at 550 F. My other shop-made grill tool is a scraper with a blade custom made to fit (by shape and spacing) the grill bars on my Weber grill. I bought a Hyde paint scraper, the kind with a square steel blade screwed to the flat end of a steel rod handle for that handle, and made an aluminum scraper plate that has a tooth that is shaped to fit between adjacent bars, making full contact on the facing sides of adjacent bars. This is used to get big deposits off, right down the flanks of the bars. Only one of the four corners is cut into a tooth, as I have only one grill, but if produced for a wider market, each corner could be shaped for a specific common grill type. There are two problems with this scraper design. First is that it would be better if the tooth blade were at an angle to the handle axis, so the blade could be perpendicular to the grill bars without causing knuckles to touch hot metal. Second is that aluminum on steel makes for loud screeching noises. Steel on steel would be less obnoxious, I bet. Joe Gwinn |
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... Grill brushes,
On 4/1/2012 11:49 AM, James Waldby wrote:
Tom, you apparently mean that $30+ retail is an already-decided price, and that it will be difficult to make a profit. Is the problem due to materials costs, or complicated assembly process, or tight pricing? (I realize that as manufacturer you only get a fraction of the retail price, but don't know if that fraction is close to 2/3 or closer to 1/3.) Regarding manufacturing, is assembly technically but not economically (at this point) feasible to automate? Or not feasible technically? Material is expensive! Stainless steel, brass or bronze wire is three time what it cost a few years ago...and they were expensive then! The assembly costs are dependent on quantity and until volume justifies better methods, it'll cost more than it should. Yep, typically I get about a third to half of retail price so I have to make this for $10-15 including OH and profit. Pricing has to fit what the market is willing to pay. Typically, a cheepie grill brush for consumers sells for $5-10. |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
On 4/1/2012 3:41 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In articlel_Cdnck8xsSdueXSnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@giganews. com, Tom Gardnermars@tacks wrote: On 3/30/2012 7:34 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In , "Tom wrote: "anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. This may be heresy, but I don't use a brush to clean the grill any more. Not that I ever had bristles coming loose. I cook burgers very hot, usually 450 F, and quick (larger burgers get cooked cooler for longer), and find that if I scrub the brill bars with a stainless steel curly scour pad while thr grill is still that hot, the grum comes right off. The scour pad is held with 18" long tongs, so my fingers don't cook. I got the idea when I was a kid working at McDonalds, watching the short-order cook, who was a pro. He used a steel scraper followed by a wet rag swirled around with tongs. The grill was a big (3' by 4', if memory serves) heavy (1/2") sheet of mild steel. Joe Gwinn You've got the ticket! But, I do have a consumer grill brush in prototype and testing stage that the likes of which has never been imagined before! However, at $30+ retail price it's going to be tough unless I can get costs down. Also, I will last for a very, very long time...another negative, be dishwasher safe and versions for work on porcelain, stainless and cast iron grills. It's a spin on a brush especially developed for "Outback Steakhouse" wood-burning grills. Are photos yet available? If there is any plastic used, it must not be much damaged by accidental contact with metal at 550 F. My other shop-made grill tool is a scraper with a blade custom made to fit (by shape and spacing) the grill bars on my Weber grill. I bought a Hyde paint scraper, the kind with a square steel blade screwed to the flat end of a steel rod handle for that handle, and made an aluminum scraper plate that has a tooth that is shaped to fit between adjacent bars, making full contact on the facing sides of adjacent bars. This is used to get big deposits off, right down the flanks of the bars. Only one of the four corners is cut into a tooth, as I have only one grill, but if produced for a wider market, each corner could be shaped for a specific common grill type. There are two problems with this scraper design. First is that it would be better if the tooth blade were at an angle to the handle axis, so the blade could be perpendicular to the grill bars without causing knuckles to touch hot metal. Second is that aluminum on steel makes for loud screeching noises. Steel on steel would be less obnoxious, I bet. Joe Gwinn There is no plastic or wood just plated steel. We are working on getting a patent-pending before we show it. I keep getting my products stolen and made in China. (I think our Government encourages this!) I've seen the scalloped scrapers like yours, they are grill-specific and don't seem to hold up well, nobody make them very well. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Oh, gosh, don't want to catch liberalism. Is THAT how it's spread? |
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I dunno, but I'm not taking chances. Gloves, gown, and Rush Limbaugh on
earbuds. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Oh, gosh, don't want to catch liberalism. Is THAT how it's spread? |
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Attn. Tom Gardner, injuries from cheap grill brushes,
In article ,
Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote: On 4/1/2012 3:41 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In articlel_Cdnck8xsSdueXSnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@giganews. com, Tom Gardnermars@tacks wrote: On 3/30/2012 7:34 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In , "Tom wrote: "anorton" wrote in message m... Tom, you should publicize this to customers who have switched or are thinking of switching to cheap imported grill brushes. They can seriously harm customers. One emergency room saw six cases in 18 months http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0328142807.htm Makes you want to chew your burger very well before swallowing. __________________________________________________ _______ All good restaurants have strict protocols to prevent food from getting contaminated with wire from brushes. Even the best brushes wear and shed wire but imports shed much worse. Home grillers need to be aware of this issue and take precautions but most people have no clue and there are no warnings on consumer brushes. This may be heresy, but I don't use a brush to clean the grill any more. Not that I ever had bristles coming loose. I cook burgers very hot, usually 450 F, and quick (larger burgers get cooked cooler for longer), and find that if I scrub the brill bars with a stainless steel curly scour pad while thr grill is still that hot, the grum comes right off. The scour pad is held with 18" long tongs, so my fingers don't cook. I got the idea when I was a kid working at McDonalds, watching the short-order cook, who was a pro. He used a steel scraper followed by a wet rag swirled around with tongs. The grill was a big (3' by 4', if memory serves) heavy (1/2") sheet of mild steel. Joe Gwinn You've got the ticket! But, I do have a consumer grill brush in prototype and testing stage that the likes of which has never been imagined before! However, at $30+ retail price it's going to be tough unless I can get costs down. Also, I will last for a very, very long time...another negative, be dishwasher safe and versions for work on porcelain, stainless and cast iron grills. It's a spin on a brush especially developed for "Outback Steakhouse" wood-burning grills. Are photos yet available? If there is any plastic used, it must not be much damaged by accidental contact with metal at 550 F. My other shop-made grill tool is a scraper with a blade custom made to fit (by shape and spacing) the grill bars on my Weber grill. I bought a Hyde paint scraper, the kind with a square steel blade screwed to the flat end of a steel rod handle for that handle, and made an aluminum scraper plate that has a tooth that is shaped to fit between adjacent bars, making full contact on the facing sides of adjacent bars. This is used to get big deposits off, right down the flanks of the bars. Only one of the four corners is cut into a tooth, as I have only one grill, but if produced for a wider market, each corner could be shaped for a specific common grill type. There are two problems with this scraper design. First is that it would be better if the tooth blade were at an angle to the handle axis, so the blade could be perpendicular to the grill bars without causing knuckles to touch hot metal. Second is that aluminum on steel makes for loud screeching noises. Steel on steel would be less obnoxious, I bet. Joe Gwinn There is no plastic or wood just plated steel. We are working on getting a patent-pending before we show it. I keep getting my products stolen and made in China. (I think our Government encourages this!) It's first to file now, so don't tarry. I'm assuming that you seek a design patent, versus a utility patent. I've seen the scalloped scrapers like yours, they are grill-specific and don't seem to hold up well, nobody make them very well. I've seen them. The steel is too thin and springy and oddly angled, and it's on the back of a brush, making use a bit awkward. The other difference is that they try to fit over two or three adjacent bars, versus a single cleverly shaped tooth that fits between any pair of adjacent bars. Joe Gwinn |
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