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Work Instructions by another name?
Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but-------
I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. It's not that I HAVE to know, it's just that I can't dredge up the name and it bugs me. At the time, 20 years ago, whatever we called them was pretty common in industry. ---Oh, why did I do it all? Well, I had to cut up a lot of 1 1/2" wide hardwood slats and then do several operations on them. I wanted to get the slats all cut to get rid of that mess in the shop, so, laying out my intended process flow gave me better insight into how careful I'd have to be in stock selection, tolerances, etc. before I started making some jigs. My wife may be doing some of the machining, so I wanted to make sure that the parts come out "right the first time". And no, I won't be expecting any ISO-9001 or TS whatever auditors in the check on me. Pete Stanaitis --------------- |
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"Pete S" wrote in message .. . Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. Pete Stanaitis http://www.instructables.com/ Plans? Although "plan" is really a drawing that views an object from above, as in Floor Plan, and "elevation" one that views from the side. jsw |
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"Pete S" wrote in message .. . Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. It's not that I HAVE to know, it's just that I can't dredge up the name and it bugs me. At the time, 20 years ago, whatever we called them was pretty common in industry. ---Oh, why did I do it all? Well, I had to cut up a lot of 1 1/2" wide hardwood slats and then do several operations on them. I wanted to get the slats all cut to get rid of that mess in the shop, so, laying out my intended process flow gave me better insight into how careful I'd have to be in stock selection, tolerances, etc. before I started making some jigs. My wife may be doing some of the machining, so I wanted to make sure that the parts come out "right the first time". And no, I won't be expecting any ISO-9001 or TS whatever auditors in the check on me. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Procedure? Art |
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Work Instructions by another name?
Thanks for you thought, but, no, not "plans".
These are the step by step instructions that tell a person exactly how to perform a process. Example for my current project: -------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Process: Saw Slats to length Material: 6 foot long Slats, 15/16" X 1 1/2" Tools: Radial Arm Saw Setup: Set up saw stops at 24" and at 43 1/2", with 1/32" accuracy2.1 Select 43 1/2" stop 2.2 Trim 1/4" from one end of a slat to square it up, or more, up to about 4", if needed, to remove any end splitting2.3 Saw one 43 1/2" slat and place it in a 5 gallon pail, about 40 per pail. Place short end of board in another pail.2.4 Repeat 2.2 and 2.3 until all 43 1/2" slats have been cut.2.5 Select 24" stop 2.6 Retrieve temporary pail of "short end" slats.2.7 Place recently cut end against stop and saw a 24" slat. Place finish cut slat in a 5 gallon pail, about 40 per pail2.8 Repeat 2.7 until all 24" slats have been cut--------------------------------------------------------------- It was our methods engineering department that usually had the job writing these things. If you are into ISO-9000, etc. this is the first place that auditors (used to) go to find things wrong with your "Total Quality" process. Pete Stanaitis --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... snip http://www.instructables.com/ Plans? Although "plan" is really a drawing that views an object from above, as in Floor Plan, and "elevation" one that views from the side. jsw |
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On 2/6/2012 19:35, Pete S wrote:
Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. It's not that I HAVE to know, it's just that I can't dredge up the name and it bugs me. At the time, 20 years ago, whatever we called them was pretty common in industry. ---Oh, why did I do it all? Well, I had to cut up a lot of 1 1/2" wide hardwood slats and then do several operations on them. I wanted to get the slats all cut to get rid of that mess in the shop, so, laying out my intended process flow gave me better insight into how careful I'd have to be in stock selection, tolerances, etc. before I started making some jigs. My wife may be doing some of the machining, so I wanted to make sure that the parts come out "right the first time". And no, I won't be expecting any ISO-9001 or TS whatever auditors in the check on me. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Operating procedure? |
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Pete S wrote:
Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. I use 'Process'. Good on ya! --Winston |
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Pete, I must have missed this. We're fellow 3Mers. I quit in 1991
after 15 years as a manufacturing engineer in Bedford Park and Hutchinson. I used to write Process Standards for how to manufacture various tape making processes. Karl |
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Work Instructions by another name?
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:35:03 -0600, "Pete S"
wrote: Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Wow, your wife must have really strong hands! I can't even -think- of weaving wrought iron with my strong and tough hands. (Well, someone had to say it.) -- Energy and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin |
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On 02/06/2012 09:35 AM, Pete S wrote:
Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. Nobody follows instructions. Call them Directives and they'll be mandatory. |
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:35:11 -0800, beryl wrote:
On 02/06/2012 09:35 AM, Pete S wrote: Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. Nobody follows instructions. Call them Directives and they'll be mandatory. They still won't get followed. Make them into training videos, and at least they'll get played in the presence of the folks who are supposed to watch them. -- My liberal friends think I'm a conservative kook. My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook. Why am I not happy that they have found common ground? Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Assembley procedures?
Hul Pete S wrote: Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. It's not that I HAVE to know, it's just that I can't dredge up the name and it bugs me. At the time, 20 years ago, whatever we called them was pretty common in industry. ---Oh, why did I do it all? Well, I had to cut up a lot of 1 1/2" wide hardwood slats and then do several operations on them. I wanted to get the slats all cut to get rid of that mess in the shop, so, laying out my intended process flow gave me better insight into how careful I'd have to be in stock selection, tolerances, etc. before I started making some jigs. My wife may be doing some of the machining, so I wanted to make sure that the parts come out "right the first time". And no, I won't be expecting any ISO-9001 or TS whatever auditors in the check on me. Pete Stanaitis --------------- |
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I call them a CNC program.
i On 2012-02-06, Tim Wescott wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:35:11 -0800, beryl wrote: On 02/06/2012 09:35 AM, Pete S wrote: Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. Nobody follows instructions. Call them Directives and they'll be mandatory. They still won't get followed. Make them into training videos, and at least they'll get played in the presence of the folks who are supposed to watch them. |
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"Pete S" wrote in message .. . Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. It's not that I HAVE to know, it's just that I can't dredge up the name and it bugs me. At the time, 20 years ago, whatever we called them was pretty common in industry. ---Oh, why did I do it all? Well, I had to cut up a lot of 1 1/2" wide hardwood slats and then do several operations on them. I wanted to get the slats all cut to get rid of that mess in the shop, so, laying out my intended process flow gave me better insight into how careful I'd have to be in stock selection, tolerances, etc. before I started making some jigs. My wife may be doing some of the machining, so I wanted to make sure that the parts come out "right the first time". And no, I won't be expecting any ISO-9001 or TS whatever auditors in the check on me. Production order=process plan+raw material Once the two are combined and have been released to shop scheduling, the paperwork portion will oftentimes be referred to as the "traveller" |
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Okay---- you laugh---- But some of our folk have done weaving with copper,
brass and silver. Pete Stanaitis ---------------- Wow, your wife must have really strong hands! I can't even -think- of weaving wrought iron with my strong and tough hands. (Well, someone had to say it.) -- Energy and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin |
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:35:03 -0600, "Pete S"
wrote: Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. Pete Stanaitis Process Specification Sheet. Dave |
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On 2/6/2012 12:35 PM, Pete S wrote:
Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. Can't say for 3M, but some parts of the corporate world would refer to it as a "Work Breakdown Structure" or WBS. Kevin Gallimore |
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:35:03 -0600, "Pete S"
wrote: Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. Anyway, I am wracking my brain trying to remember what we called "work instructions" at 3M company, primarily for hardgoods mfg, years ago. It's not that I HAVE to know, it's just that I can't dredge up the name and it bugs me. At the time, 20 years ago, whatever we called them was pretty common in industry. ---Oh, why did I do it all? Well, I had to cut up a lot of 1 1/2" wide hardwood slats and then do several operations on them. I wanted to get the slats all cut to get rid of that mess in the shop, so, laying out my intended process flow gave me better insight into how careful I'd have to be in stock selection, tolerances, etc. before I started making some jigs. My wife may be doing some of the machining, so I wanted to make sure that the parts come out "right the first time". And no, I won't be expecting any ISO-9001 or TS whatever auditors in the check on me. Pete Stanaitis --------------- At Western Elecrtic, AKA At &T, AKA Lucent, AKA Agere Systems we called them Shop Instruction or S. I.'s Remove 333 to reply. Randy |
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That's not the name I was thinking of, but you sure have the idea correct!
Of course, our stuff didn't have many pictures back then, unless absolutely necessary. Pete Stanaitis ---------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may be thinking of an Operational Method Sheet or OMS. It differes from a procedure in that it does not only tell you what to do, but has detailed pictures to show you exactly how to do it documenting practically every single motion. In other words it assumes you have no skills and are illiterate. |
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Pete S wrote: Okay, this may sound a little like trivial pursuit, but------- I just wrote up some work instructions for a project to make 50 rug weaving frames for my wife. She's going to put on 2 classes in making these 23" X 42" rugs this summer at our biannual national blacksmith conference in Rapid City, SD. TFM. You can't RTFM until someone writes it. ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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