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Dragged out my snowblower and I noticed that it skips ignitions and
does not "fire" every time. What could possibly account for this?

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Iggy wrote:

What could possibly account for this?


Living in a snow zone, Ig. Move WAY south. G

Low tonight 35, high tomorrow mid 60's. Then it goes up again!

snicker!

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Dragged out my snowblower and I noticed that it skips ignitions and
does not "fire" every time. What could possibly account for this?

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Wow, you name it! Unstable mixture, water in the gas, dirty spark plug,
degraded magneto coil, bad points (if it has them), wrong ignition
timing (can be the shearable key in the flywheel), loose head bolts,
bad valves. Hmm, can't think of too many more.

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Iggy wrote:

What could possibly account for this?


Living in a snow zone, Ig. Move WAY south. G

Low tonight 35, high tomorrow mid 60's. Then it goes up again!

snicker!

LLoyd


Low tonight 29F here in hot sunny Texas...
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:51:47 -0600, "Pete C." wrote:


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

Iggy wrote:

What could possibly account for this?

Living in a snow zone, Ig. Move WAY south. G

Low tonight 35, high tomorrow mid 60's. Then it goes up again!

snicker!

LLoyd


Low tonight 29F here in hot sunny Texas...


46 tonight and 76 tomorrow LA/CA


46 is still below my bitch threshold, and there isn't enough money in
the world to get me to live in CA, much less LA. Been there, did dinner
in Beverly Hills too, ok to visit but that's all.


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Dragged out my snowblower and I noticed that it skips ignitions and
does not "fire" every time. What could possibly account for this?

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How old is the gas? Has it been stored under cover, in the dry, or in
damp where water could get into gas. First step is drain any old gas
and put in fresh gas of lowest ethanol content you can find.
Good idea to drain the carb float bowl too and make sure it is clean.
If the carb is gummed up it will usually run lean - and a lean blower
engine will "hunt". Turn the mixture screw out until it settles down
(usually 1/4 turn or so) and put a cleaner in the gas. I'm partial to
SeaFoam, but MMO has been reported to give good results too - likely
take a bit longer from my experience, and a can of SeaFoam and a
bottle of MMO are about the same price, Once the cleaner has done
it's thing you can turn the screw back in to the proper mix.
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:49:05 -0600, Jon Elson
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Ignoramus16789 wrote:

Dragged out my snowblower and I noticed that it skips ignitions and
does not "fire" every time. What could possibly account for this?

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Wow, you name it! Unstable mixture, water in the gas, dirty spark plug,
degraded magneto coil, bad points (if it has them), wrong ignition
timing (can be the shearable key in the flywheel), loose head bolts,
bad valves. Hmm, can't think of too many more.


Maybe it's an older one, with that type of engine. http://goo.gl/65L3K

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:46:58 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
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Iggy wrote:

What could possibly account for this?


Living in a snow zone, Ig. Move WAY south. G

Low tonight 35, high tomorrow mid 60's. Then it goes up again!

snicker!


35 now in Grass Pants, OR. It has been 23F this week, some days
warming up to a balmy 40, others to a roasting 50. We're due for a
cold snap next week. Time to stock up my pantry, just in case.
That white stuff makes going up the steep hill to town quite a chore
in a 2x2 truck.

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:49:05 -0600, Jon Elson
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Ignoramus16789 wrote:

Dragged out my snowblower and I noticed that it skips ignitions and
does not "fire" every time. What could possibly account for this?

i

Wow, you name it! Unstable mixture, water in the gas, dirty spark plug,
degraded magneto coil, bad points (if it has them), wrong ignition
timing (can be the shearable key in the flywheel), loose head bolts,
bad valves. Hmm, can't think of too many more.

Jon

My snow blower ran like **** till I replaced the muffler - square inch
hole was feeding exhaust gas to the carb intake. Runs much better now.


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How are you storing the blower during the off season? In our clime
(I'm west of you one state), and you can store your lawnmowers over
the winter as the gasoline generally does not evaporate the light
hydro-carbons. BUT never store chainsaws, snow blowers or any other
tool with gasoline over the summer (unless your using them often), as
you end up with tar (the heavy HCs) in the carburetor. Even if you
have a gas shutoff, unless you run the fuel bowl dry, you end up with
the fuel jet ports plugged/fowled.
You may end up having to remove the carburetor and soak in cleaner.
Depends on if you don't have a shutoff, and it sat in a storage shed
all summer.

Darn, this was a nice winter until Thursday. At least it's 6 weeks
later then normal.

ignator

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Dragged out my snowblower and I noticed that it skips ignitions and
does not "fire" every time. What could possibly account for this?


i

How old is the gas? Has it been stored under cover, in the dry, or in
damp where water could get into gas. First step is drain any old gas
and put in fresh gas of lowest ethanol content you can find.


The gas is a year old, or more. (I used it last year, but the gas in
the can may have been old even then).

I ran it out of gas yesterday, dumped old gas from the can, and bought
new gas. I will try it on new gas and will report.







*Good idea to drain the carb float bowl too and make sure it is clean..
If the carb is gummed up it will usually run lean - and a lean blower
engine will "hunt". Turn the mixture screw out until it settles down
(usually 1/4 turn or so) and put a cleaner in the gas. I'm partial to
SeaFoam, but MMO has been reported to give good results too - likely
take a bit longer from my experience, and a can of SeaFoam and a
bottle of MMO are about the same price, *Once the cleaner has done
it's thing you can turn the screw back in to the proper mix.


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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:51:47 -0600, "Pete C." wrote:


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

Iggy wrote:

What could possibly account for this?

Living in a snow zone, Ig. Move WAY south. G

Low tonight 35, high tomorrow mid 60's. Then it goes up again!

snicker!

LLoyd


Low tonight 29F here in hot sunny Texas...



46 tonight and 76 tomorrow LA/CA


48 tonight and 74 tommorow in the California Central Valley


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I was gonna suggest something like your example when EA was askin' about a
emergency generator.

When I looked them up, there were lots of examples online, of yard machines
and utility equipment run with H&M many years ago.

The larger oil well pumps I've seen around western PA (made in local
foundries), have had spoked cast iron flywheels up to 5 feet in diameter..
many of 'em sitting idle, going to waste.
There are numerous pumps still in use, as close as about 10 miles from the
city, then scattered randomly all over the place.

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Wow, you name it! Unstable mixture, water in the gas, dirty spark plug,
degraded magneto coil, bad points (if it has them), wrong ignition
timing (can be the shearable key in the flywheel), loose head bolts,
bad valves. Hmm, can't think of too many more.


Maybe it's an older one, with that type of engine. http://goo.gl/65L3K

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48 tonight and 74 tommorow in the California Central Valley



BITE ME!
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On 1/15/2012 4:47 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
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46 tonight and 76 tomorrow LA/CA


48 tonight and 74 tommorow in the California Central Valley



BITE ME!


My front door is wide open, the back door is wide open, and there are 3
windows in the living room open. Not quite warm enough for shorts and a
t shirt, but close.

There is a reason I moved away..far far away from northern Michigan.

Gunner, who in 5 months will have the house tightly shut, the cooler
running full blast and trying to avoid going out when its 112F during
the heat of the day.



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46 tonight and 76 tomorrow LA/CA

48 tonight and 74 tommorow in the California Central Valley



BITE ME!


My front door is wide open, the back door is wide open, and there are 3
windows in the living room open. Not quite warm enough for shorts and a
t shirt, but close.

There is a reason I moved away..far far away from northern Michigan.


Had any nice earthquakes lately? I'll stick with misery that can be
forecasted several days in advance, and won't destroy my house in an
instant.

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It runs much better with new gas, I dumped all my old gas.

thanks to all.

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35 now in Grass Pants, OR. It has been 23F this week, some days
warming up to a balmy 40, others to a roasting 50. We're due for a
cold snap next week. Time to stock up my pantry, just in case.
That white stuff makes going up the steep hill to town quite a chore
in a 2x2 truck.


Unless you have some sort of Limited Slip or Locker in that truck,
it's only 1X1. Hit a patch of ice, and you aren't going anywhere.

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in a 2x2 truck.


Unless you have some sort of Limited Slip or Locker in that truck,
it's only 1X1. Hit a patch of ice, and you aren't going anywhere.


It would seem a 2x2 would be either

a) a very short or,

b) a very narrow wheelbase.

Either way, it would seem quite an unstable vehicle, snow or no...

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:19:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
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35 now in Grass Pants, OR. It has been 23F this week, some days
warming up to a balmy 40, others to a roasting 50. We're due for a
cold snap next week. Time to stock up my pantry, just in case.
That white stuff makes going up the steep hill to town quite a chore
in a 2x2 truck.


Unless you have some sort of Limited Slip or Locker in that truck,
it's only 1X1. Hit a patch of ice, and you aren't going anywhere.

-- Bruce --

Actially, a 2X2 would be an all wheel drive bicycle - and a 1X1 a
Unicycle. Definitely no good in snow.

Proper terminology is a 4X2 - with 4X1 being what you guys are trying
to call the truck with an open diff.

It really DOES have 2 wheel drive. If you want to see what 1 wheel
drive handles like, you want to try an early King Midget. When the
drive wheel is in the inside of a turn it shoots you like a slingshot,
and on the outside of a turn it handles quite docile.


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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:19:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
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35 now in Grass Pants, OR. It has been 23F this week, some days
warming up to a balmy 40, others to a roasting 50. We're due for a
cold snap next week. Time to stock up my pantry, just in case.
That white stuff makes going up the steep hill to town quite a chore
in a 2x2 truck.


Unless you have some sort of Limited Slip or Locker in that truck,
it's only 1X1. Hit a patch of ice, and you aren't going anywhere.


The nut's an auto-LSD (limited slip), but the stocker Michelins won't
take it up a wet 15 degree farm field slope without a running start.
I'm hoping the Bridgestones I put on late next year (when I get
another spare $800) fare better.

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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:50:00 -0800, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:19:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
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35 now in Grass Pants, OR. It has been 23F this week, some days
warming up to a balmy 40, others to a roasting 50. We're due for a
cold snap next week. Time to stock up my pantry, just in case.
That white stuff makes going up the steep hill to town quite a chore
in a 2x2 truck.


Unless you have some sort of Limited Slip or Locker in that truck,
it's only 1X1. Hit a patch of ice, and you aren't going anywhere.


The nut's an auto-LSD (limited slip), but the stocker Michelins won't
take it up a wet 15 degree farm field slope without a running start.
I'm hoping the Bridgestones I put on late next year (when I get
another spare $800) fare better.

Put a 300 lb plate of steel under the back of the box and the little
blighter will get around a lot better. That's 3' X4' X 5/8"
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