I'd like to converse with anyone with an Atlas shaper powered by Atlas
3 PH motor and starter. I'm going to run my shaper with 3 PH. Also
interested in buying 3 PH pieces-starter is no. S7-300, starter
bracket (don't know part number) and 1/2 HP motor is no. 2620. I would
like to get some pictures of the bracket for the starter and how it is
mounted on the machine. Thanks. Gary R.

On 2011-03-19, FBsFinest wrote:
I'd like to converse with anyone with an Atlas shaper powered by Atlas
3 PH motor and starter. I'm going to run my shaper with 3 PH. Also
interested in buying 3 PH pieces-starter is no. S7-300, starter
bracket (don't know part number) and 1/2 HP motor is no. 2620. I would
like to get some pictures of the bracket for the starter and how it is
mounted on the machine. Thanks. Gary R.

How big a shaper is this which you want three phase to power?

The only Atlas one which I know of is the 7" one, which is
normally single phase 120 VAC for the motor. And that is quite similar
to my Rockwell/Delta/AMMCO one, and not that different from the South
Bend one. (IIRC, the South Bend is the one which has its own built in
oil pump instead of needing a trip round all the GITS oil cups before
running. :-)

Do you already have three-phase for your shop? If not, you can
run it from a VFD and not need a starter. And the starter could be
mounted anywhere within reach anyway. No real need to mount it on the
machine.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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DoN,

I've been using 3 PH for many years. This is one of those 'I want to
be different ideas'. Most people don't want to deal with 3 PH so I
thought it might be easier to acquire these pieces because users might
want to get rid of them. I have a manual starter that I think is the
one used by Atlas-its a Cutler-Hammer piece. The motor is pretty
straight forward since Atlas put their name on it. I would like to
acquire one of these. This is part of my metalworking enjoyment. Gary
R.

On 2011-03-20, FBsFinest wrote:
DoN,

I've been using 3 PH for many years. This is one of those 'I want to
be different ideas'. Most people don't want to deal with 3 PH so I
thought it might be easier to acquire these pieces because users might
want to get rid of them. I have a manual starter that I think is the
one used by Atlas-its a Cutler-Hammer piece. The motor is pretty
straight forward since Atlas put their name on it. I would like to
acquire one of these. This is part of my metalworking enjoyment.

O.K. So it is now clear that you really want the plain and
simple three phase with starter.

This is really the litte 7" shaper? You won't need that big a
motor for that. Not even a need for reversing, unless you want jogging,
which is easy enough to do by hand on a 7".

Sorry that I don't have the pieces you need. Not sure that
there were ever very many of those systems made with three phase.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On Mar 20, 9:23*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2011-03-20, FBsFinest wrote:

DoN,

I've been using 3 PH for many years. This is one of those 'I want to
be different ideas'. Most people don't want to deal with 3 PH so I
thought it might be easier to acquire these pieces because users might
want to get rid of them. I have a manual starter that I think is the
one used by Atlas-its a Cutler-Hammer piece. The motor is pretty
straight forward since Atlas put their name on it. I would like to
acquire one of these. This is part of my metalworking enjoyment.

* * * * O.K. *So it is now clear that you really want the plain and
simple three phase with starter.

* * * * This is really the litte 7" shaper? *You won't need that big a
motor for that. *Not even a need for reversing, unless you want jogging,
which is easy enough to do *by hand on a 7".

* * * * Sorry that I don't have the pieces you need. *Not sure that
there were ever very many of those systems made with three phase.

* * * * Good Luck,
* * * * * * * * DoN.

I actually saw an Atlas shaper with a 3-phase motor at a school
auction once,
was a fractional horsepower item IIRC, like 1/2 horse. Motor was a
proprietary thing,
would have taken a lot of work to fit a standard frame single phase
motor. Lots of pieces
missing, so not that great a deal. Same auction also had a Delta
scroll saw with a 1/4 horse
3-phase motor on it, same deal, proprietary motor. Smallest 3-phase
motors I've ever seen. I
guess whoever specced the things to start with wanted the same type of
plugs in the whole shop.
Had a small Baldor grinder, was 3-phase, too. Guess the O.P. should
have been there, although
the stuff didn't go cheap. One bidder on the scroll saw didn't even
know what 3-phase was when I
mentioned it. "Whazzat?" Guess he thought I was trying to discourage
bidders.

Stan

Looks like eBay will be my best source for the motor. I'm a bit
surprised that no one has responded that owns a 3 PH powered shaper.
Either these users are rare or I'm not reaching them. I'm guessing the
manual starter is the harder piece to find so I'm glad I have
something close (maybe exact). 1 PH Atlas motors show up on eBay quite
often so a 3 PH listing should show up - staying optimistic. For now I
have a brand new in the box Baldor that will get me going. The shaper
needs a good cleaning so that will take some time. Maybe by then an
Atlas motor will show up. Thanks for the replies. Gary R.

On 2011-03-21, wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:23*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2011-03-20, FBsFinest wrote:

DoN,

I've been using 3 PH for many years. This is one of those 'I want to
be different ideas'. Most people don't want to deal with 3 PH so I
thought it might be easier to acquire these pieces because users might

[ ... ]

* * * * Sorry that I don't have the pieces you need. *Not sure that
there were ever very many of those systems made with three phase.

[ ... ]

I actually saw an Atlas shaper with a 3-phase motor at a school
auction once,
was a fractional horsepower item IIRC, like 1/2 horse. Motor was a
proprietary thing,
would have taken a lot of work to fit a standard frame single phase
motor. Lots of pieces
missing, so not that great a deal. Same auction also had a Delta
scroll saw with a 1/4 horse
3-phase motor on it, same deal, proprietary motor. Smallest 3-phase
motors I've ever seen. I
guess whoever specced the things to start with wanted the same type of
plugs in the whole shop.
Had a small Baldor grinder, was 3-phase, too.

Perhaps the school used them to discourage theft of the tools?
Most thieves would not know what to do with three phase powered tools.

Guess the O.P. should
have been there, although
the stuff didn't go cheap. One bidder on the scroll saw didn't even
know what 3-phase was when I
mentioned it. "Whazzat?" Guess he thought I was trying to discourage
bidders.

I wonder whether he was the one who won it -- and thus would
have to find out what three phase was? :-)

FWIW -- I keep planning to swap a three-phase motor into my Clausing
12x24" lathe -- and run it from a VFD. But I keep being too
busy *using* the lathe to work on it for that. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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