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Aerating coolant, do I need a "stone" or not
I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the
skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:14:38 -0600, Ignoramus18625
wrote: I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i I just wrapped a bit of wire around the end of the hose to make it sink and tossed it in the back corner of the sump, no stone. its been a few, well several, years. Still works. karl |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:14:38 -0600, Ignoramus18625
wrote: I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Ayup..you really need the stone to make the bubbles as fine as possible. And they are dirt cheap so you can replace one every couple years out of pocket change -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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On 2010-11-22, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:14:38 -0600, Ignoramus18625 wrote: I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Ayup..you really need the stone to make the bubbles as fine as possible. And they are dirt cheap so you can replace one every couple years out of pocket change OK... hopefully tonight I will finish this... will also add a farm and fleet water heater to prevent freezing... thanks i |
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"Ignoramus18625" wrote in message ... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? Steve Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend. http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus18625" wrote in message ... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? Steve I thought you were supposed to use an airlock , that the fermentation was anaerobic . Shows what I know ! Well , in winemaking I always used airlocks . I only made beer once , didn't particularly like "chewy" beer , so never made any more . -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! |
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Ignoramus18625 wrote:
I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i I think a piece of tubing with very small holes laid in the bottom will give you better results than a stone . Put the holes on the underside . -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message m... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:39:15 -0600, Karl Townsend
wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message om... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl Actually...the air bubbles are to kill anerobic bacteria...bugs that grow without Oxygen and when they die..the sludge that is left behind breaks down easily enough. But maybe Im wrong? Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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On 2010-11-23, Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus18625" wrote in message ... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? If coolant is left without air, then anaerobic bacteria turn it into a nasty mess. It stinks, causes allergies and other diseases. The oil forms clumps and clogs coolant lines, etc. Anyway, as of last night, I have two timers controlling the aerator and the skimmer. Each can be controlled in 30 minute intervals. I am not yet sure what is the best approach as to when to schedule what, I scheduled various things and I will re-evaluate it later. As of now, I have 99.8% of oil removed, the coolant is nice and milky etc. I think that 30 minutes per day or aeration and skimming ought to be enough to my level of use. The coolant that I have, is very good stuff and should last a long time if I add water from time to time. i |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:49 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:39:15 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message news:buqdnbxQ9vWjYXTRnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews. com... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl Actually...the air bubbles are to kill anerobic bacteria...bugs that grow without Oxygen and when they die..the sludge that is left behind breaks down easily enough. But maybe Im wrong? Gunner yea, but the question is how much O2 do you need? My guess is a clean surface (no tramp oil) and the coarse bubbles are enough. No question a stone would put more O2 per unit run time while it works. I haven't done an academic study on it. There should be government funds from Obama for a federal program on this VBG Karl |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:32:42 -0600, Karl Townsend
wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:49 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:39:15 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message news:buqdnbxQ9vWjYXTRnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews .com... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl Actually...the air bubbles are to kill anerobic bacteria...bugs that grow without Oxygen and when they die..the sludge that is left behind breaks down easily enough. But maybe Im wrong? Gunner yea, but the question is how much O2 do you need? My guess is a clean surface (no tramp oil) and the coarse bubbles are enough. No question a stone would put more O2 per unit run time while it works. I haven't done an academic study on it. There should be government funds from Obama for a federal program on this VBG Karl Oh hell yes! Kin I be listed as a co-author? This should net us a $100k each at the least!!!! Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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"Ignoramus21476" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-23, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message ... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? If coolant is left without air, then anaerobic bacteria turn it into a nasty mess. It stinks, causes allergies and other diseases. The oil forms clumps and clogs coolant lines, etc. Anyway, as of last night, I have two timers controlling the aerator and the skimmer. Each can be controlled in 30 minute intervals. I am not yet sure what is the best approach as to when to schedule what, I scheduled various things and I will re-evaluate it later. As of now, I have 99.8% of oil removed, the coolant is nice and milky etc. I think that 30 minutes per day or aeration and skimming ought to be enough to my level of use. The coolant that I have, is very good stuff and should last a long time if I add water from time to time. i Are you guys talking about TIG coolant? I am not familiar with a "sump". Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus21476" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-23, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message ... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? If coolant is left without air, then anaerobic bacteria turn it into a nasty mess. It stinks, causes allergies and other diseases. The oil forms clumps and clogs coolant lines, etc. Anyway, as of last night, I have two timers controlling the aerator and the skimmer. Each can be controlled in 30 minute intervals. I am not yet sure what is the best approach as to when to schedule what, I scheduled various things and I will re-evaluate it later. As of now, I have 99.8% of oil removed, the coolant is nice and milky etc. I think that 30 minutes per day or aeration and skimming ought to be enough to my level of use. The coolant that I have, is very good stuff and should last a long time if I add water from time to time. i Are you guys talking about TIG coolant? I am not familiar with a "sump". Steve Milling machine . -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! |
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"Snag" wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus21476" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-23, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message ... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? If coolant is left without air, then anaerobic bacteria turn it into a nasty mess. It stinks, causes allergies and other diseases. The oil forms clumps and clogs coolant lines, etc. Anyway, as of last night, I have two timers controlling the aerator and the skimmer. Each can be controlled in 30 minute intervals. I am not yet sure what is the best approach as to when to schedule what, I scheduled various things and I will re-evaluate it later. As of now, I have 99.8% of oil removed, the coolant is nice and milky etc. I think that 30 minutes per day or aeration and skimming ought to be enough to my level of use. The coolant that I have, is very good stuff and should last a long time if I add water from time to time. i Are you guys talking about TIG coolant? I am not familiar with a "sump". Steve Milling machine . -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! Gotcha. Not in my pay grade. Now it makes sense. Thanks. Steve |
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Gunner Asch on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:04:05 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:32:42 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:49 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:39:15 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message news:buqdnbxQ9vWjYXTRnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganew s.com... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl Actually...the air bubbles are to kill anerobic bacteria...bugs that grow without Oxygen and when they die..the sludge that is left behind breaks down easily enough. But maybe Im wrong? Gunner yea, but the question is how much O2 do you need? My guess is a clean surface (no tramp oil) and the coarse bubbles are enough. No question a stone would put more O2 per unit run time while it works. I haven't done an academic study on it. There should be government funds from Obama for a federal program on this VBG Karl Oh hell yes! Kin I be listed as a co-author? This should net us a $100k each at the least!!!! Do not forget to look into the implications for Global Warming, Green Technologies, and combating carbon dioxide. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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On 2010-11-23, Steve B wrote:
Are you guys talking about TIG coolant? I am not familiar with a "sump". Steve No, cutting fluid for the milling machine. It is a "milk" made of water and concentrate that prevents rust, cools cutting bits, lubricates the point of cutting. The "sump" is a tub in the bottom of the mill where the fluid collects. It also is a point where tramp way oil collects, which causes problems with lack of oxygen and anaerobic bacteria. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_fluid |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:18:44 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:04:05 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:32:42 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:49 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:39:15 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message news:buqdnbxQ9vWjYXTRnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@gigane ws.com... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl Actually...the air bubbles are to kill anerobic bacteria...bugs that grow without Oxygen and when they die..the sludge that is left behind breaks down easily enough. But maybe Im wrong? Gunner yea, but the question is how much O2 do you need? My guess is a clean surface (no tramp oil) and the coarse bubbles are enough. No question a stone would put more O2 per unit run time while it works. I haven't done an academic study on it. There should be government funds from Obama for a federal program on this VBG Karl Oh hell yes! Kin I be listed as a co-author? This should net us a $100k each at the least!!!! Do not forget to look into the implications for Global Warming, Green Technologies, and combating carbon dioxide. tschus pyotr Your in! Wanna be the Front Man? -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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"Ignoramus21476" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-23, Steve B wrote: Are you guys talking about TIG coolant? I am not familiar with a "sump". Steve No, cutting fluid for the milling machine. It is a "milk" made of water and concentrate that prevents rust, cools cutting bits, lubricates the point of cutting. The "sump" is a tub in the bottom of the mill where the fluid collects. It also is a point where tramp way oil collects, which causes problems with lack of oxygen and anaerobic bacteria. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_fluid I wasn't getting it, but understand now. I'd add a little green food coloring, and market it as Mean Green, the Planet Friendly Coolant. You can use the name, just remember me every Christmas with a card and some "real" green. Steve |
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Gunner Asch on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:02:30 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:18:44 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:04:05 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:32:42 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:49 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:39:15 -0600, Karl Townsend wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:22 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus18625" wrote in message news:buqdnbxQ9vWjYXTRnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@gigan ews.com... I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i Do the math, ig. Finer bubbles make for more surface area to transfer gases. I use a stone when aerating my wort (beer cooked in the first phase) with oxygen. It helps the yeast to work better. What are you aerating coolant for? My thinking was just the opposite. Its in the back corner of the sump with its main job to push oil to the skimmer. No way to see if the stone plugs, and it will. If your stone plugs and you don't catch it, you're in for a totally awful job of cleaning a putrid sump. Always more than one way to skin a cat. Karl Actually...the air bubbles are to kill anerobic bacteria...bugs that grow without Oxygen and when they die..the sludge that is left behind breaks down easily enough. But maybe Im wrong? Gunner yea, but the question is how much O2 do you need? My guess is a clean surface (no tramp oil) and the coarse bubbles are enough. No question a stone would put more O2 per unit run time while it works. I haven't done an academic study on it. There should be government funds from Obama for a federal program on this VBG Karl Oh hell yes! Kin I be listed as a co-author? This should net us a $100k each at the least!!!! Do not forget to look into the implications for Global Warming, Green Technologies, and combating carbon dioxide. tschus pyotr Your in! Wanna be the Front Man? "You're looking at the Chief of Protocol for the Human Delegation" "Honest?" "Not really, but it pays the bills." I'll have my people talk to some people I know - he's got a 15 in Beurocratese, the grant's a shoe in if he's willing to come in. Gotta run, time to see if the temporal vortex works when it is freezing out. pyotr -- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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Aerating coolant, do I need a "stone" or not
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:32:58 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:02:30 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Your in! Wanna be the Front Man? "You're looking at the Chief of Protocol for the Human Delegation" "Honest?" "Not really, but it pays the bills." That sounds too much like something you'd hear at Callahan's... I'll have my people talk to some people I know - he's got a 15 in Beurocratese, the grant's a shoe in if he's willing to come in. Gotta run, time to see if the temporal vortex works when it is freezing out. Let us know yesterday, will ya? Ta! -- Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills. -- Minna Thomas Antrim |
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Aerating coolant, do I need a "stone" or not
On Nov 22, 12:14*am, Ignoramus18625
My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i No experience on this. But if you ran the aerator continuously the coolant would never get inside the stone, so the stone should never get plugged by coolant residue. If the stone does get plugged with coolant residue, would soaking the stone in vinegar unplug it? Dan |
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
" fired this volley in news:25aecc6d- : If the stone does get plugged with coolant residue, would soaking the stone in vinegar unplug it? Unless it clogged rapidly, I'd just replace it. Hell! Those things are about $0.30 at ChinaMart. LLoyd I've had one running for an hour a day for about the last 6 years and the stone isn't plugged, still works fine. A skimmer is a thought on the todo list. |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:14:38 -0600, Ignoramus18625
wrote: I finally visited Wal-Mart and bought two timers. I want to run the skimmer off of one timer, and aerator (fishtank style air pump) on another timer. My question is, do I need a stone on the aerator, or not. I am concerned that the stone will eventually become plugged by coolant residue. If bubbling water without a stone is a little less efficient, I do not think that I care too much. Any thoughts on this? i A stone will make the aeration work better. It won't plug up in a milling machine sump. They tend to clog in some compartments of my surface grinder clarifier because the get buried under the settled out grit and grinding dust. If you get a stone, get a larger one, the small ones have a tendency to float, then you end up threading 3/4" nuts on the pipe to make them sink. DAMHIKT The plastic air hose tends to go hard, die to the plasticisers leaching out into the coolant. This is only a problem if you make later modifications. Then, new hose is simpler than working with the old stuff. Mark Rand RTFM |
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Aerating coolant, do I need a "stone" or not
Larry Jaques on Wed, 24 Nov 2010
04:03:55 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:32:58 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:02:30 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Your in! Wanna be the Front Man? "You're looking at the Chief of Protocol for the Human Delegation" "Honest?" "Not really, but it pays the bills." That sounds too much like something you'd hear at Callahan's... Buck Godot, Zap Gun for Hire. I'll have my people talk to some people I know - he's got a 15 in Beurocratese, the grant's a shoe in if he's willing to come in. Gotta run, time to see if the temporal vortex works when it is freezing out. Let us know yesterday, will ya? Ta! You didn't get the message? Drat, too early now. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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