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I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
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I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


That's OK. You also don't have any 32" diameter prop shafts to
straighten on that press at the moment, so methinks it'll work on
everything else you throw at it.

Silly Rabbi.

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I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.




I don't have a 30 ton jack either. I will add my own tangent however. I've
got a 12 ton press, and when I misplaced the jack for it I bought a 12 ton
air over hydraulic for it. I have since found the original jack. Its has
sat in the corner gathering dust for 4 or 5 years now. Air over is awesome
when you have work to do, and when I need a little more precise control I
can still put a jack handle in it.

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:53:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


That's OK. You also don't have any 32" diameter prop shafts to
straighten on that press at the moment, so methinks it'll work on
everything else you throw at it.

Silly Rabbi.


But Larry...yah just never know when someone will bring one in!!!

G

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burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
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I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.




I don't have a 30 ton jack either. I will add my own tangent however. I've
got a 12 ton press, and when I misplaced the jack for it I bought a 12 ton
air over hydraulic for it. I have since found the original jack. Its has
sat in the corner gathering dust for 4 or 5 years now. Air over is awesome
when you have work to do, and when I need a little more precise control I
can still put a jack handle in it.



Yah..I was thinking about that. Going through the Harbor Freight
website and pondering.

But..and I have one..several in fact...but Id need the air compressor
running to do anything serious with the press. And with the economy
being the way it is...that power bill....cringe. The press will be
there after the economy comes back. The power bill comes every month.

I guess Ill simply kick it around, check all the yard sales and whatnot
and maybe Ill find an American made big jack for little money.

12 ton will get me by, I reckon.

Gunner


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If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
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and kill every one of you.
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I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.




I don't have a 30 ton jack either. I will add my own tangent however. I've
got a 12 ton press, and when I misplaced the jack for it I bought a 12 ton
air over hydraulic for it. I have since found the original jack. Its has
sat in the corner gathering dust for 4 or 5 years now. Air over is awesome
when you have work to do, and when I need a little more precise control I
can still put a jack handle in it.



Yah..I was thinking about that. Going through the Harbor Freight
website and pondering.

But..and I have one..several in fact...but Id need the air compressor
running to do anything serious with the press. And with the economy
being the way it is...that power bill....cringe. The press will be
there after the economy comes back. The power bill comes every month.

I guess Ill simply kick it around, check all the yard sales and whatnot
and maybe Ill find an American made big jack for little money.

12 ton will get me by, I reckon.

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:16:56 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:53:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


That's OK. You also don't have any 32" diameter prop shafts to
straighten on that press at the moment, so methinks it'll work on
everything else you throw at it.

Silly Rabbi.


But Larry...yah just never know when someone will bring one in!!!

G


Yeah, in TAFT, of all places.

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:39:27 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:16:56 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:53:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.

That's OK. You also don't have any 32" diameter prop shafts to
straighten on that press at the moment, so methinks it'll work on
everything else you throw at it.

Silly Rabbi.


But Larry...yah just never know when someone will bring one in!!!

G


Yeah, in TAFT, of all places.


Geez louise. If he has people bringing him work, then how does he have
so much time for yakking here? And considering that he claims to
charge $75 an hour, then why is he broke and wasting multiple hours
*talking* about getting a cheap jack, instead of working for a single
hour and buying a new one? Even more to the point - if one can create
an alternate reality by posting to Usenet, then why not create a
better one?

Wayne
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


And considering that he claims to charge $75 an hour, then why is he
broke and wasting multiple hours *talking* about getting a cheap jack,
instead of working for a single hour and buying a new one?


He said it cost $80, you libtard.

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:53:38 -0500, "Buddy Beavers"
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


And considering that he claims to charge $75 an hour, then why is he
broke and wasting multiple hours *talking* about getting a cheap jack,
instead of working for a single hour and buying a new one?


He said it cost $80


Sure, but he also just offered $20 towards buying somebody a plane
ticket. So he could work one hour and still have $15 left over to
donate. Or he could work 4 extra minutes to earn the other $5. Now, I
know that you're thinking that if he works for an entire 64 minutes,
then the world would be deprived of a few of his cull posts. But these
are tough times and we all have to make sacrifices, right?

, you libtard.


Hey, cockroach, I thought it was conservatives who want the deadbeats
to work? Wouldn't that make me a conservative according to your
delusions? And since gummer's a conservative, then if I'm a libtard
telling him to get off his deadbeat ass, doesn't that mess up your
whole alternate-reality? How do you manage to stay so gloriously
illogical? Does it involve getting through winters by sleeping in a
running car that has holes in the floor?

Wayne


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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


And considering that he claims to charge $75 an hour, then why is he
broke and wasting multiple hours *talking* about getting a cheap jack,
instead of working for a single hour and buying a new one?


He said it cost $80


Sure, but he also just offered $20 towards buying somebody a plane
ticket. So he could work one hour and still have $15 left over to
donate. Or he could work 4 extra minutes to earn the other $5. Now, I
know that you're thinking that if he works for an entire 64 minutes,
then the world would be deprived of a few of his cull posts. But these
are tough times and we all have to make sacrifices, right?

, you libtard.


Hey, cockroach, I thought it was conservatives who want the deadbeats
to work? Wouldn't that make me a conservative according to your
delusions? And since gummer's a conservative, then if I'm a libtard
telling him to get off his deadbeat ass, doesn't that mess up your
whole alternate-reality? How do you manage to stay so gloriously
illogical? Does it involve getting through winters by sleeping in a
running car that has holes in the floor?

Wayne


Your fatal flaw is that to be a conservative and tell deadbeats to work, you
have to be working too. You've already admitted to Gunner working, that
makes you the deadbeat and libtard rolled into one.


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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:39:27 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:16:56 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:53:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.

That's OK. You also don't have any 32" diameter prop shafts to
straighten on that press at the moment, so methinks it'll work on
everything else you throw at it.

Silly Rabbi.


But Larry...yah just never know when someone will bring one in!!!

G


Yeah, in TAFT, of all places.



Lots of oil fields here. Lots of heavy machinery running 24/7

Lots of Heavy Stuff.

Maybe something will turn up

Gunner


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and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:53:38 -0500, "Buddy Beavers"
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


And considering that he claims to charge $75 an hour, then why is he
broke and wasting multiple hours *talking* about getting a cheap jack,
instead of working for a single hour and buying a new one?


He said it cost $80, you libtard.


Whine seems to forget that in California, with the rapid bailing out of
machine shops..the work has gotten a hell of a lot slower.

If there was work here..Id be working. In the last 24 months..Ive lost
16 customers who are now empty buildings
Ive got another 12-15 who are working 3-4 days a week, and are often
closed weeks at a time.

I walked into a machine shop about a month ago..visit a customer Ive
done business with for years. He was pulling down the plaques and
whatnot from the walls, and putting them in boxes. When I asked what he
was doing, he simply told me he was quitting. When I looked at him with
a wondering face..he said he was taking his personal stuff, some bits
and pieces, and leaving the keys on his desk when he left. He had owned
the business for over 30 yrs.

He simply couldnt get enough business to keep the doors open, the lights
on and the machines running. So he said ****it! and went home to retire.
Fortunately he was smart enough to have tucked away money so he could.
He simply called the machine owners..Haas, etc etc..and told them he had
quit..and they could come get their machines, or leave em for the
creditors auction. He was outa there.

And asking me if there was anything I wanted, and helping me load a few
things in the truck...he closed and locked the door, slipped the key
into the mail slot, got into his truck and drove away. He never even
looked back.

California.

From what I understand...other states are doing better...some are doing
worse.

But Whine doesnt know know much. He just thinks he does.

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
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Whine seems to forget that in California, with the rapid bailing out of
machine shops..the work has gotten a hell of a lot slower.


So what? What happened to your genius IQ and your command of an
infinite number of skills? Get your ass over to any place of business
and you'll see dozens of people working away and earning a living. The
simple fact is that they have the motivation, and you don't.

If there was work here..Id be working.


You are so full of ****. Dollars to donuts if I went to the scrapyard
nearest you and asked about employees, I'd be told that several have
come and gone during the latest period that you've been lying about
wanting to work. That's the kind of job you're qualified for, and you
could have it if you tried. So who do you think you're fooling? All of
us who've known deadbeats know that your lot prefer doing as little as
it takes to live a subsistence lifestyle, and that you'll never take
any job that would allow your creditors to dun your paycheck. Haven't
you seen your GOP and Tea Party puppet masters on TV talking about how
"socialism" encourages the lazy to sit on their asses? That's you
they're talking about, nitwit. In fact, you could be a great poster
boy to help them make their case. All they'd have to do is hold up a
list of all those thousands of Usenet posts per month being cranked
out by the patriarch of 3 generations of leeches. Then they could
highlight a few of the ones where you boast of all your skills, and
how much you want to work, and contrast that with all the jobs you've
made excuse after excuse for not taking. Then they could point out
that the people who did take those jobs, get to pay to keep your lazy
ass alive. In fact, since you want those POS pols to succeed, why
aren't you volunteering?

Wayne



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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


And considering that he claims to charge $75 an hour, then why is he
broke and wasting multiple hours *talking* about getting a cheap jack,
instead of working for a single hour and buying a new one?

He said it cost $80


Sure, but he also just offered $20 towards buying somebody a plane
ticket. So he could work one hour and still have $15 left over to
donate. Or he could work 4 extra minutes to earn the other $5. Now, I
know that you're thinking that if he works for an entire 64 minutes,
then the world would be deprived of a few of his cull posts. But these
are tough times and we all have to make sacrifices, right?

, you libtard.


Hey, cockroach, I thought it was conservatives who want the deadbeats
to work? Wouldn't that make me a conservative according to your
delusions? And since gummer's a conservative, then if I'm a libtard
telling him to get off his deadbeat ass, doesn't that mess up your
whole alternate-reality? How do you manage to stay so gloriously
illogical? Does it involve getting through winters by sleeping in a
running car that has holes in the floor?

Wayne


Your fatal flaw is that to be a conservative and tell deadbeats to work, you
have to be working too. You've already admitted to Gunner working


LOL Gummer hasn't worked steady for nearly 3 decades. Most likely
he's one of those guys who only stays at one place as long as it takes
his employer to get to know him, and never long enough for his
creditors to command a slice of his paycheck. For as long as he's been
on Usenet he's claimed to work at a failing business, which surprise
surprise, always seems to leave him broke and with enough time to post
day and night. Those posts have always been a heap of BS about how
many skills he has, and that he nevertheless can't make a living. Even
you don't believe a word of it.

makes you the deadbeat and libtard rolled into one.


Considering the level of your (il)logic, it's little wonder that you
keep changing your nym, cockroach.

Wayne


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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.


And considering that he claims to charge $75 an hour, then why is he
broke and wasting multiple hours *talking* about getting a cheap jack,
instead of working for a single hour and buying a new one?


He said it cost $80, you libtard.


Whine seems to forget that in California, with the rapid bailing out of
machine shops..the work has gotten a hell of a lot slower.

If there was work here..Id be working. In the last 24 months..Ive lost
16 customers who are now empty buildings
Ive got another 12-15 who are working 3-4 days a week, and are often
closed weeks at a time.

I walked into a machine shop about a month ago..visit a customer Ive
done business with for years. He was pulling down the plaques and
whatnot from the walls, and putting them in boxes. When I asked what he
was doing, he simply told me he was quitting. When I looked at him with
a wondering face..he said he was taking his personal stuff, some bits
and pieces, and leaving the keys on his desk when he left. He had owned
the business for over 30 yrs.

He simply couldnt get enough business to keep the doors open, the lights
on and the machines running. So he said ****it! and went home to retire.
Fortunately he was smart enough to have tucked away money so he could.
He simply called the machine owners..Haas, etc etc..and told them he had
quit..and they could come get their machines, or leave em for the
creditors auction. He was outa there.

And asking me if there was anything I wanted, and helping me load a few
things in the truck...he closed and locked the door, slipped the key
into the mail slot, got into his truck and drove away. He never even
looked back.

California.

From what I understand...other states are doing better...some are doing
worse.

But Whine doesnt know know much. He just thinks he does.

Gunner


That really sucks the way Barack Hoover Obama has ****ed everything up.
Luckily you're a survivor.

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:16:56 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:53:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:19:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I was setting up my new press tonight..and the jack I thought was 20
ton..was 12 ton.

The press is rated at 30 tons..so anyone got one they want to trade
Stuff for? Harbor Freight has em for $80..but I dont have $80 at the
moment to buy a jack with.

That's OK. You also don't have any 32" diameter prop shafts to
straighten on that press at the moment, so methinks it'll work on
everything else you throw at it.

Silly Rabbi.

But Larry...yah just never know when someone will bring one in!!!

G


Yeah, in TAFT, of all places.



Lots of oil fields here. Lots of heavy machinery running 24/7


Drill collars - I made a few of them in my day. Okay, I did the
preliminary work, which let the next guy bore the 2.5 hole down the
centre of the 34 foot shaft. Al Hopper had the joy of turning them OD
to ID. All on manual machines, mind you.

Lots of Heavy Stuff.

Maybe something will turn up


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