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Rush to flee US
I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US.
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"Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. When Rush Limbaugh flippantly said that if the healthcare reform bill passes "and all this stuff gets implemented, I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica," many of us considered that the lagniappe on a measure we're already pretty jazzed about. And so, after Sunday's historic passage of the bill, there was a burst of collective hope that the bloviating fan of prescription drugs might soon be Central America's problem. (Just don't tell him about Costa Rica's successful universal healthcare system.) But when Monday came and went and Limbaugh issued no "Hasta la vista," two enterprising "dudes living in Brooklyn" named Mike and Patrick decided to help move things along. They created A Ticket for Ru$h, where visitors can contribute -- $1 at a time -- toward the cost of a first-class, one-way ticket to Juan Santamaria International Airport. How eager was the Web community to expedite Limbaugh's transfer to balmier climes? Within 18 hours, the site had raised close to $1,500. But Mike and Patrick, who say they're currently uninsured, are still collecting donations and busily researching "the cost of a modest apartment in Costa Rica, cost of a moving service, and cost of Spanish lessons (just to be safe)." They're running their drive until the last day of April, when, they vow, they'll contact Rush directly with their generous offer. Limbaugh's current difficulties unloading his Liberace museum-inspired Manhattan apartment indicate both a desire to move and a shortness of funds, so one might think he'd leap at this opportunity like a Central American squirrel monkey on a tree frog. But if the pundit balks at leaving his murals of beaches for real beaches, Mike and Patrick have pledged to give all the money to a good cause. They've earmarked the donations they collect to go to the organization Limbaugh recently described as "giddy because of all the new abortions there are going to be" under healthcare reform: Planned Parenthood. http://www.aticketforrush.com/ JC |
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"Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL J |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Yeah. They lack resources and the system is as corrupt as hell but........ Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Passing health care is something that Rush secretly wanted. He's got good insurance but good issues to rev up those that pay his bills can be fleeting. The Dem's gave him a drum and the Repug's an audience. Talk Radio just won another round. If you want to see something interesting, have a look at the list of advertisers for Savage, Beck and Limbaugh. JC |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. When Rush Limbaugh flippantly said that if the healthcare reform bill passes "and all this stuff gets implemented, I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica," many of us considered that the lagniappe on a measure we're already pretty jazzed about. And so, after Sunday's historic passage of the bill, there was a burst of collective hope that the bloviating fan of prescription drugs might soon be Central America's problem. (Just don't tell him about Costa Rica's successful universal healthcare system.) But when Monday came and went and Limbaugh issued no "Hasta la vista," two enterprising "dudes living in Brooklyn" named Mike and Patrick decided to help move things along. They created A Ticket for Ru$h, where visitors can contribute -- $1 at a time -- toward the cost of a first-class, one-way ticket to Juan Santamaria International Airport. How eager was the Web community to expedite Limbaugh's transfer to balmier climes? Within 18 hours, the site had raised close to $1,500. But Mike and Patrick, who say they're currently uninsured, are still collecting donations and busily researching "the cost of a modest apartment in Costa Rica, cost of a moving service, and cost of Spanish lessons (just to be safe)." They're running their drive until the last day of April, when, they vow, they'll contact Rush directly with their generous offer. Limbaugh's current difficulties unloading his Liberace museum-inspired Manhattan apartment indicate both a desire to move and a shortness of funds, so one might think he'd leap at this opportunity like a Central American squirrel monkey on a tree frog. But if the pundit balks at leaving his murals of beaches for real beaches, Mike and Patrick have pledged to give all the money to a good cause. They've earmarked the donations they collect to go to the organization Limbaugh recently described as "giddy because of all the new abortions there are going to be" under healthcare reform: Planned Parenthood. http://www.aticketforrush.com/ JC He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN The fat lady hasn't sung yet. Within hours of Barry signing, at least a dozen states filed suit. Steve |
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RogerN wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. And Planned Parenthood. Don't forget them Roger. LMAO -- John R. Carroll |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN The fat lady hasn't sung yet. Within hours of Barry signing, at least a dozen states filed suit. Steve Today on the radio http://www.aclj.org was saying they have been contacted and anywhere from 25 to 37 states are talking with them about fighting this bill on grounds that they say forcing people to buy healthcare is not Constitutional. They are also interested in individual plaintiffs that would be forced to buy healthcare. Everything has good and bad points, the key to this legislation is that it was 100% Democrat so all the bad points will be pointed out and magnified by the Republicans. In other words the Republicans can do unto the Democrats as the Democrats did unto the Republicans, except when the Democrats blamed the Republicans, the Democrats were the majority. And the Democrats that were bought out got special deals for their states to be paid for by the taxpayer. TMT (Two Mommie Tommie?) even blamed Bush for natural disasters, Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. RogerN |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. -- John R. Carroll |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. -- John R. Carroll Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? Looking in hindsight, Obama is a better speaker than Bush, Bush was a better president than Obama. Or do you have anything that Bush did that represented 1/5th of the economy and was voted on 100% by Republicans and 0% Democrats? Obama hasn't even made to the second year and he's already done more damage to the Divided States of Ameristan than Bush did in all 8 years. RogerN |
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RogerN wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? Looking in hindsight, Obama is a better speaker than Bush, Bush was a better president than Obama. Or do you have anything that Bush did that represented 1/5th of the economy and was voted on 100% by Republicans and 0% Democrats? Obama hasn't even made to the second year and he's already done more damage to the Divided States of Ameristan than Bush did in all 8 years. By the end of October in the final year of bush's reign, the American people had seen 13 trillion dollars of the value of their homes, investments, 401K's and other retirement vehicles dissapear over the course of just two years. That's 100 percent of a years GNP Roger and it didn't end there. The Bush administration nationalized AIG and America's largest financial institutions. The Bush administration nationalized GM and Chrysler. The Bush administration nationalized Fannie and Freddie. That is, and will be, the Bush legacy Roger and it represents the destruction of about two years worth of the entire worlds GDP. We are still monetizing that loss and will be for a decade. -- John R. Carroll |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Yeah. They lack resources and the system is as corrupt as hell but........ Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Passing health care is something that Rush secretly wanted. He's got good insurance but good issues to rev up those that pay his bills can be fleeting. The Dem's gave him a drum and the Repug's an audience. Talk Radio just won another round. If you want to see something interesting, have a look at the list of advertisers for Savage, Beck and Limbaugh. JC I didn't see anything useful. Do you have a link to some analysis of the advertisers? -- Ed Huntress |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? Looking in hindsight, Obama is a better speaker than Bush, Bush was a better president than Obama. Or do you have anything that Bush did that represented 1/5th of the economy and was voted on 100% by Republicans and 0% Democrats? Obama hasn't even made to the second year and he's already done more damage to the Divided States of Ameristan than Bush did in all 8 years. By the end of October in the final year of bush's reign, the American people had seen 13 trillion dollars of the value of their homes, investments, 401K's and other retirement vehicles dissapear over the course of just two years. That's 100 percent of a years GNP Roger and it didn't end there. The Bush administration nationalized AIG and America's largest financial institutions. The Bush administration nationalized GM and Chrysler. The Bush administration nationalized Fannie and Freddie. That is, and will be, the Bush legacy Roger and it represents the destruction of about two years worth of the entire worlds GDP. We are still monetizing that loss and will be for a decade. -- John R. Carroll Did you notice that crash took place at the same time Obama pulled ahead in the polls? The plant I work at had it's first layoffs in years (if not decades) starting right after the vote, all overtime and project work was halted the day after the vote. RogerN |
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Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Talk Radio just won another round. If you want to see something interesting, have a look at the list of advertisers for Savage, Beck and Limbaugh. JC I didn't see anything useful. Do you have a link to some analysis of the advertisers? I've got a list that one of the industry groups sells or maybe it was an agency. I'll dig it up and post it. It's on my lap top. Most of the big buyers shy away except for vehicle manufacturers. Apple, for example, won't make a buy from FOX at all. They end up with a list that looks like something Howard Stern was attracting when he was broadcasting over the airwaves. Carbonite comes to mind. What I was curious about in the first place was how Fox's audience share translated into advertising and from who. -- John R. Carroll |
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RogerN wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? Looking in hindsight, Obama is a better speaker than Bush, Bush was a better president than Obama. Or do you have anything that Bush did that represented 1/5th of the economy and was voted on 100% by Republicans and 0% Democrats? Obama hasn't even made to the second year and he's already done more damage to the Divided States of Ameristan than Bush did in all 8 years. By the end of October in the final year of bush's reign, the American people had seen 13 trillion dollars of the value of their homes, investments, 401K's and other retirement vehicles dissapear over the course of just two years. That's 100 percent of a years GNP Roger and it didn't end there. The Bush administration nationalized AIG and America's largest financial institutions. The Bush administration nationalized GM and Chrysler. The Bush administration nationalized Fannie and Freddie. That is, and will be, the Bush legacy Roger and it represents the destruction of about two years worth of the entire worlds GDP. We are still monetizing that loss and will be for a decade. Did you notice that crash took place at the same time Obama pulled ahead in the polls? The "crash" started in December of 2006 with the onset of large numbers of mortgage defaults. I guess you'd like to forget the first attempted "stimulus". That was a check the Treasury department wrote every tax payer. The plant I work at had it's first layoffs in years (if not decades) starting right after the vote, all overtime and project work was halted the day after the vote. They waited to long. The economy had really begun to contract by then. Even John McCain had quit pronouncing the American economy as being in good shape. Bush began his Presidency with 9/11 and ended it with the financial collapse of the country. Now that's what I call book ending your run as the boss. -- John R. Carroll |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? Looking in hindsight, Obama is a better speaker than Bush, Bush was a better president than Obama. Or do you have anything that Bush did that represented 1/5th of the economy and was voted on 100% by Republicans and 0% Democrats? Obama hasn't even made to the second year and he's already done more damage to the Divided States of Ameristan than Bush did in all 8 years. By the end of October in the final year of bush's reign, the American people had seen 13 trillion dollars of the value of their homes, investments, 401K's and other retirement vehicles dissapear over the course of just two years. That's 100 percent of a years GNP Roger and it didn't end there. The Bush administration nationalized AIG and America's largest financial institutions. The Bush administration nationalized GM and Chrysler. The Bush administration nationalized Fannie and Freddie. That is, and will be, the Bush legacy Roger and it represents the destruction of about two years worth of the entire worlds GDP. We are still monetizing that loss and will be for a decade. Did you notice that crash took place at the same time Obama pulled ahead in the polls? The "crash" started in December of 2006 with the onset of large numbers of mortgage defaults. I guess you'd like to forget the first attempted "stimulus". That was a check the Treasury department wrote every tax payer. December 2006? Wasn't that when all the Democrats won big in November, they won't claiming it was all a Republican problem and they would fix everything if they were elected? The plant I work at had it's first layoffs in years (if not decades) starting right after the vote, all overtime and project work was halted the day after the vote. They waited to long. The economy had really begun to contract by then. Even John McCain had quit pronouncing the American economy as being in good shape. Bush began his Presidency with 9/11 and ended it with the financial collapse of the country. Now that's what I call book ending your run as the boss. -- John R. Carroll Bush didn't cause 9/11, however if a Democrat was in office during 9/11 we would probably all have towels on our heads right now. We'd be placing bets every year of where the terrorists would strike next. Bush took the fight to them and kept them busy defending themselves in their own countries. Democrats are showing how they deal with terrorists, not as military enemies but they treat them as citizens with trials in civilian courts. We'd have commander in chiefs, Obama and Osama, not much difference! RogerN |
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On 3/23/2010 6:07 PM, RogerN wrote:
"John R. wrote in message ... id wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. When Rush Limbaugh flippantly said that if the healthcare reform bill passes "and all this stuff gets implemented, I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica," many of us considered that the lagniappe on a measure we're already pretty jazzed about. And so, after Sunday's historic passage of the bill, there was a burst of collective hope that the bloviating fan of prescription drugs might soon be Central America's problem. (Just don't tell him about Costa Rica's successful universal healthcare system.) But when Monday came and went and Limbaugh issued no "Hasta la vista," two enterprising "dudes living in Brooklyn" named Mike and Patrick decided to help move things along. They created A Ticket for Ru$h, where visitors can contribute -- $1 at a time -- toward the cost of a first-class, one-way ticket to Juan Santamaria International Airport. How eager was the Web community to expedite Limbaugh's transfer to balmier climes? Within 18 hours, the site had raised close to $1,500. But Mike and Patrick, who say they're currently uninsured, are still collecting donations and busily researching "the cost of a modest apartment in Costa Rica, cost of a moving service, and cost of Spanish lessons (just to be safe)." They're running their drive until the last day of April, when, they vow, they'll contact Rush directly with their generous offer. Limbaugh's current difficulties unloading his Liberace museum-inspired Manhattan apartment indicate both a desire to move and a shortness of funds, so one might think he'd leap at this opportunity like a Central American squirrel monkey on a tree frog. But if the pundit balks at leaving his murals of beaches for real beaches, Mike and Patrick have pledged to give all the money to a good cause. They've earmarked the donations they collect to go to the organization Limbaugh recently described as "giddy because of all the new abortions there are going to be" under healthcare reform: Planned Parenthood. http://www.aticketforrush.com/ JC He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN Don't worry, Roger. When the public sees how much better this bill is going to make their health care they will not stay divided long. When you consider all the lies told by the right, when the people find out the truth, that they benefit from the health care reform the divisions created by right wing lies will quickly fade. Things are going to get better. As you will soon find out, the right has been telling you lies again, and again you fell for them. Did you forget the lies about WMDs already? You still trust the republicans when they tell you things? What's that thing Bush said fool me once shame on me...you know the rest that Bush butchered. Hawke |
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"Hawke" wrote in message ... On 3/23/2010 6:07 PM, RogerN wrote: "John R. wrote in message ... id wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. When Rush Limbaugh flippantly said that if the healthcare reform bill passes "and all this stuff gets implemented, I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica," many of us considered that the lagniappe on a measure we're already pretty jazzed about. And so, after Sunday's historic passage of the bill, there was a burst of collective hope that the bloviating fan of prescription drugs might soon be Central America's problem. (Just don't tell him about Costa Rica's successful universal healthcare system.) But when Monday came and went and Limbaugh issued no "Hasta la vista," two enterprising "dudes living in Brooklyn" named Mike and Patrick decided to help move things along. They created A Ticket for Ru$h, where visitors can contribute -- $1 at a time -- toward the cost of a first-class, one-way ticket to Juan Santamaria International Airport. How eager was the Web community to expedite Limbaugh's transfer to balmier climes? Within 18 hours, the site had raised close to $1,500. But Mike and Patrick, who say they're currently uninsured, are still collecting donations and busily researching "the cost of a modest apartment in Costa Rica, cost of a moving service, and cost of Spanish lessons (just to be safe)." They're running their drive until the last day of April, when, they vow, they'll contact Rush directly with their generous offer. Limbaugh's current difficulties unloading his Liberace museum-inspired Manhattan apartment indicate both a desire to move and a shortness of funds, so one might think he'd leap at this opportunity like a Central American squirrel monkey on a tree frog. But if the pundit balks at leaving his murals of beaches for real beaches, Mike and Patrick have pledged to give all the money to a good cause. They've earmarked the donations they collect to go to the organization Limbaugh recently described as "giddy because of all the new abortions there are going to be" under healthcare reform: Planned Parenthood. http://www.aticketforrush.com/ JC He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN Don't worry, Roger. When the public sees how much better this bill is going to make their health care they will not stay divided long. When you consider all the lies told by the right, when the people find out the truth, that they benefit from the health care reform the divisions created by right wing lies will quickly fade. Things are going to get better. As you will soon find out, the right has been telling you lies again, and again you fell for them. Did you forget the lies about WMDs already? You still trust the republicans when they tell you things? What's that thing Bush said fool me once shame on me...you know the rest that Bush butchered. Hawke Even Obama's own Doctor cousin said this health care bill was bad. But, I guess we'll see. RogerN |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Ed Huntress wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Talk Radio just won another round. If you want to see something interesting, have a look at the list of advertisers for Savage, Beck and Limbaugh. JC I didn't see anything useful. Do you have a link to some analysis of the advertisers? I've got a list that one of the industry groups sells or maybe it was an agency. I'll dig it up and post it. It's on my lap top. Most of the big buyers shy away except for vehicle manufacturers. Apple, for example, won't make a buy from FOX at all. They end up with a list that looks like something Howard Stern was attracting when he was broadcasting over the airwaves. Carbonite comes to mind. What I was curious about in the first place was how Fox's audience share translated into advertising and from who. -- John R. Carroll As of last year, they actually had pretty good demographics overall. The *psychographics* for the news segments, though, has got to be a challenge for the account executives. I'd think that Viagra and sausage-gravy producers would do well with it, though. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Ed Huntress wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Talk Radio just won another round. If you want to see something interesting, have a look at the list of advertisers for Savage, Beck and Limbaugh. JC I didn't see anything useful. Do you have a link to some analysis of the advertisers? I've got a list that one of the industry groups sells or maybe it was an agency. I'll dig it up and post it. It's on my lap top. Most of the big buyers shy away except for vehicle manufacturers. Apple, for example, won't make a buy from FOX at all. They end up with a list that looks like something Howard Stern was attracting when he was broadcasting over the airwaves. Carbonite comes to mind. What I was curious about in the first place was how Fox's audience share translated into advertising and from who. -- John R. Carroll As of last year, they actually had pretty good demographics overall. The *psychographics* for the news segments, though, has got to be a challenge for the account executives. I'd think that Viagra and sausage-gravy producers would do well with it, though. d8-) http://shar.es/mgu9V Seen that? Poor old Boehner. -- John R. Carroll |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... The "crash" started in December of 2006 with the onset of large numbers of mortgage defaults. I guess you'd like to forget the first attempted "stimulus". That was a check the Treasury department wrote every tax payer. December 2006? Wasn't that when all the Democrats won big in November, they won't claiming it was all a Republican problem and they would fix everything if they were elected? I don't remember anyone making that claim. I do, however, remember the voters expressing their opinion of the Bush administrations lack of results that were worth having at the polls. Bush didn't cause 9/11, Bin Laden "caused" 9/11. He couldn't, however, have been succesful without the help he got during the first eight months of the bush regime. EARLY 2001 - WHITE HOUSE DEPARTS FROM EFFORTS TO TRACK TERRORIST MONEY: The new Bush Treasury Department "disapproved of the Clinton Administration's approach to money laundering issues, which had been an important part of the drive to cut off the money flow to bin Laden." Specifically, the Bush Administration opposed Clinton Administration-backed efforts by the G-7 and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development that targeted countries with "loose banking regulations" being abused by terrorist financiers. Meanwhile, the Bush Administration provided "no funding for the new National Terrorist Asset Tracking Center." [Source: The Age of Sacred Terror, 2003] APRIL 30, 2001 - BUSH ADMINISTRATION SAYS BIN LADEN FOCUS WAS "MISTAKE": The Bush Administration released the government's annual report on terrorism, but unlike previous Administrations, it decided to specifically omit an "extensive mention of alleged terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. A senior State Department official told CNN the U.S. government made a mistake in focusing so much energy on bin Laden." Similarly, AP reported in 2002 that the Bush Administration's "national security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of those sessions." [Source: CNN, 4/30/01; AP, 6/29/01] The federal government was rapidly increasing its counter-terrorism efforts at the time President Bush took office. As the New York Times reported, Attorney General Janet Reno ended her tenure as "perhaps the strongest advocate" of counterterrorism spending. Similarly, Newsweek and the Washington Post reported National Security Adviser Sandy Berger was "totally preoccupied" with the prospect of a domestic terror attack, telling his replacement that they need to be "spending more time on this issue" than on any other. The focus changed dramatically when the Bush Administration took office. ADMINISTRATION SHIFTED LAW ENFORCEMENT'S FOCUS OFF OF COUNTER-TERRORISM: The New York Times reported that in the lead-up to 9/11, Attorney General John Ashcroft "said fighting terrorism was a top priority of his agency," yet upon entering office, "he identified more than a dozen other objectives for greater emphasis within the Justice Department before the attacks." On Aug. 9, the Administration distributed a strategic plan to the Justice Department highlighting its new goals from a list of Clinton Administration goals. The item that referred to intelligence and investigation of terrorists was left un-highlighted. [Source: NY Times, 2/28/02] ASHCROFT OVERRULED EFFORTS FOCUSED ON COUNTER-TERROR: Newsweek reported that "in the spring of 2001, the attorney general had an extraordinary confrontation with the then FBI Director Louis Freeh at an annual meeting of special agents." The two talked before appearing, and Ashcroft laid out his priorities for Freeh: "basically violent crime and drugs," recalls one participant. Freeh replied bluntly that those were not his priorities, and began to talk about terror and counterterrorism. "Ashcroft didn't want to hear about it," says a former senior law-enforcement official." [Source: Newsweek, 5/27/02] BUSH ADMINISTRATION TERMINATED PROGRAM THAT TRACKED AL QAEDA: "In the months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called 'Catcher's Mitt' to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States." [Source: Newsweek, 3/21/04] SO LITTLE CONCERN FOR COUNTER-TERROR THAT A WHITE HOUSE TASK FORCE NEVER MET: In January of 2001, the U.S. Government's bipartisan Commission on National Security gave the White House a report that warned of an attack on the homeland and urged the new Administration to implement its specific "recommendations to prevent acts of domestic terrorism. The Administration rejected the Commission's report, "preferring to put aside the recommendations." Instead, the Administration waited until May of 2001 to appoint Vice President Cheney to head a task force "to combat terrorist attacks on the United States." But according to the Washington Post, neither "Cheney's review nor Bush's took place." Meanwhile, Newsweek reported that when senators "sent a copy of draft legislation on counterterrorism and homeland defense to Cheney's office on July 20," they were told by Cheney's top aide "that it might be another six months before he would be able to review the material." [Source: Salon, 9/12/04; White House release, 5/8/01; Washington Post, 1/20/02; Newsweek, 5/27/02] WHITE HOUSE BEGAN EFFORT TO CUT COUNTER-TERRORISM PROGRAMS: The New York Times reported that in its final 2003 budget request, the Administration "called for spending increases in 68 programs, none of which directly involved counterterrorism...In his Sept. 10 submission to the budget office, Ashcroft did not endorse FBI requests for $58 million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 intelligence analysts and 54 additional translators. Ashcroft proposed a $65 million cut for a program that gives states and localities counterterrorism grants for equipment, including radios and decontamination suits and training." By comparison, "Under Janet Reno, the department's counterterrorism budget increased 13.6% in the fiscal year 1999, 7.1% in 2000 and 22.7% in 2001." [Source: NY Times, 2/28/02] ADMINISTRATION LEFT "GAPS" IN MILITARY'S REQUEST FOR COUNTER-TERROR FUNDS: The Washington Post reported that in its first budget, the White House left "gaps" between "what military commanders said they needed to combat terrorists and what they got." Newsweek noted that, among other things, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld elected not to re-launch a Predator drone that had been tracking bin Laden. When the Senate Armed Services Committee tried to fill those gaps, "Rumsfeld said he would recommend a veto" on September 9. [Source: Washington Post, 1/20/02; Newsweek, 5/27/02; NY Times, 2/28/02] ADMINISTRATION STOPPED PREDATOR FLIGHTS TRACKING AL QAEDA IN AFGHANISTAN: AP reported "though Predator drones spotted Osama bin Laden as many as three times in late 2000, the Bush administration did not fly the unmanned planes over Afghanistan during its first eight months." Additionally, "the military successfully tested an armed Predator throughout the first half of 2001" but the White House "failed to resolve a debate over whether the CIA or Pentagon should operate the armed Predators" and the armed Predator never got off the ground before 9/11. [Source: AP, 6/25/03] WHILE CUTTING COUNTER-TERROR, THE WHITE HOUSE SENT FUNDING TO THE TALIBAN: At the same time the White House was trying to cut counter-terrorism funding, it gave "$43 million in drought aid to Afghanistan after the Taliban began a campaign against poppy growers." As the 5/29/01 edition of Newsday noted, the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan "are a decidedly odd choice for an outright gift of $43 million from the Bush Administration. This is the same government against which the United Nation imposes sanctions, at the behest of the United States, for refusing to turn over the terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden." [Washington Post, 9/23/01; Newsday, 5/29/01] MAY 2002 - BUSH ADMINISTRATION MOVES TO PREVENT INDEPENDENT INQUIRY OF 9/11: Months after 9/11, Vice President Cheney went on Fox News to announce the Administration's full opposition to an independent 9/11 commission. As CBS News noted, the White House "opposed a commission" from the start, claiming "it would tie up officials waging the war on terror - and endanger U.S. secrets." [Source: Fox News, 5/19/02; CBS, 9/20/02] "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?" - Paul Bremer, George W. Bush's future administrator in Iraq, Feb. 26, 2001. Trent Lott Questioned by the Observer, London England, January 2001 Do you think it is fair that President Clinton is being accused of not preventing the attack on the USS Cole? LOTT: Well, in reality that is the way it is in America and it is what makes us a great nation. True leaders must handle difficult situations or have competent people who handle those situations. Sources did give information of a general nature to the Administration and it is obvious that an attack still occured. This is a more 'impeachable' offense than what was brought before the Congress. Fortunately, George Bush will in just a few days become our President. I can assure you that such situations will not be mishandled by his Administration. However general the information might be, the President-elect will act with authority to prevent such tragedies. And then there was 9-11-2001 -- John R. Carroll |
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RogerN wrote: Even Obama's own Doctor cousin said this health care bill was bad. But, I guess we'll see. Did you see the picture of Obama on news:alt.binaries.schematics.electronics -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!' |
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The plant I work at had it's first layoffs in years (if not decades) starting right after the vote, all overtime and project work was halted the day after the vote. They waited to long. The economy had really begun to contract by then. Even John McCain had quit pronouncing the American economy as being in good shape. Bush began his Presidency with 9/11 and ended it with the financial collapse of the country. Now that's what I call book ending your run as the boss. -- John R. Carroll Bush didn't cause 9/11, however if a Democrat was in office during 9/11 we would probably all have towels on our heads right now. We'd be placing bets every year of where the terrorists would strike next. Bush took the fight to them and kept them busy defending themselves in their own countries. Democrats are showing how they deal with terrorists, not as military enemies but they treat them as citizens with trials in civilian courts. We'd have commander in chiefs, Obama and Osama, not much difference! RogerN Hey Roger, it's a good thing you changed the subject from how Bush ruined America to 9/11 because you were being made a monkey of by JC. He he was putting up the facts about how bad Bush messed things up and you were still trying to defend him. Obviously you couldn't defend Bush once the facts were shown so you changed the subject. By the way, that's a good strategy when you are getting your butt kicked in a debate. Your problem is that you already tried to defend the worst president ever and the facts showing the opposite just killed you. But I wouldn't switch to Osama vs Obama either because in that area Obama is doing much better than Bush did too. Since Obama took over we've gone on the offensive in Afghanistan, have killed many of the top al Qaeda leaders, and sent the rest running for the hills. I think it's time for you to fold. Hawke |
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He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN Don't worry, Roger. When the public sees how much better this bill is going to make their health care they will not stay divided long. When you consider all the lies told by the right, when the people find out the truth, that they benefit from the health care reform the divisions created by right wing lies will quickly fade. Things are going to get better. As you will soon find out, the right has been telling you lies again, and again you fell for them. Did you forget the lies about WMDs already? You still trust the republicans when they tell you things? What's that thing Bush said fool me once shame on me...you know the rest that Bush butchered. Hawke Even Obama's own Doctor cousin said this health care bill was bad. But, I guess we'll see. RogerN Give it a chance. In time you may find it was the right thing to do or it may be a mistake. I doubt that but give it the test of time to see how it works before rejecting it out of hand. Believe me, everyone who says it's going to be a disaster are going to look really foolish if it makes things better. Hawke |
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Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed.g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL J I was going to say he can't go to Africa. They have too many blacks there for him. Hawke |
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"RogerN" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. Have you read the relevant parts and the law? Or are you listening to the wackos? -- Ed Huntress |
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"RogerN" wrote in message m... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. -- John R. Carroll Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? The Republicans used the procedural filibuster, actual filibuster, and cloture blockage 104 times in the 110th Congress, as of Oct. 3rd 2008. That was a new record. I hope you know what that means, right? -- Ed Huntress |
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Hawke wrote:
The plant I work at had it's first layoffs in years (if not decades) starting right after the vote, all overtime and project work was halted the day after the vote. They waited to long. The economy had really begun to contract by then. Even John McCain had quit pronouncing the American economy as being in good shape. Bush began his Presidency with 9/11 and ended it with the financial collapse of the country. Now that's what I call book ending your run as the boss. -- John R. Carroll Bush didn't cause 9/11, however if a Democrat was in office during 9/11 we would probably all have towels on our heads right now. We'd be placing bets every year of where the terrorists would strike next. Bush took the fight to them and kept them busy defending themselves in their own countries. Democrats are showing how they deal with terrorists, not as military enemies but they treat them as citizens with trials in civilian courts. We'd have commander in chiefs, Obama and Osama, not much difference! RogerN Hey Roger, it's a good thing you changed the subject from how Bush ruined America to 9/11 because you were being made a monkey of by JC. He he was putting up the facts about how bad Bush messed things up and you were still trying to defend him. Obviously you couldn't defend Bush once the facts were shown so you changed the subject. By the way, that's a good strategy when you are getting your butt kicked in a debate. Your problem is that you already tried to defend the worst president ever and the facts showing the opposite just killed you. But I wouldn't switch to Osama vs Obama either because in that area Obama is doing much better than Bush did too. Since Obama took over we've gone on the offensive in Afghanistan, have killed many of the top al Qaeda leaders, and sent the rest running for the hills. I think it's time for you to fold. The most important developement in Afghanistan during the Obama administration didn't even happen there. Obama, through Hillary Clinton, told the Pakistani's that if they didn't get with the program we were going to cut off there money and then go on a tear with Predators that would make the strikes Obama has ordered into Pakistan over the first months of his term look like a picnic. It was done Nuclear State (us) to Nuclear peon (Pakistan) with the reminder that nuclear armed India is right next door. Now, suddenly, the ISI has stopped protecting Al Qaeda and the Taliban and is actually working with the Paki and American armed forced to kill the *******s. The Bush adminnistration lacked the stones to get tough with anyone that could push back. The new guy isn't the coward Bush was and it is starting to produce results. -- John R. Carroll |
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Hawke wrote:
Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed.g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL J I was going to say he can't go to Africa. They have too many blacks there for him. It isn't the number of blacks that Limpballs cares about, it's the number of whites he can stir up and get to send him money. There are plenty of those. -- John R. Carroll |
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Hedge funds and day traders - inventions of money people and voted
by congress to give them permission stole our money. Hedge funds could sell/buy after and before market times. e.g. if Europe or Asia did this or that - they could cover their behinds and bet on the come. e.g. when profit was to be made - they got their big slice first. They also dumped stock without others knowing and got close price not open (their crashed) value. Don't blame a President when congress passes 1000 page laws that no one knows what is in them - until they decide later..... Martin John R. Carroll wrote: RogerN wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... RogerN wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Bush caused a Hurricane according to TMT. Bush WAS a hurricane Roger and he ripped America a new asshole. In fact, he was so BAD he made possible the election of our current President. Why didn't all the Democrats that were elected in 2006 do anything about it like they promised they would do if they were elected? Looking in hindsight, Obama is a better speaker than Bush, Bush was a better president than Obama. Or do you have anything that Bush did that represented 1/5th of the economy and was voted on 100% by Republicans and 0% Democrats? Obama hasn't even made to the second year and he's already done more damage to the Divided States of Ameristan than Bush did in all 8 years. By the end of October in the final year of bush's reign, the American people had seen 13 trillion dollars of the value of their homes, investments, 401K's and other retirement vehicles dissapear over the course of just two years. That's 100 percent of a years GNP Roger and it didn't end there. The Bush administration nationalized AIG and America's largest financial institutions. The Bush administration nationalized GM and Chrysler. The Bush administration nationalized Fannie and Freddie. That is, and will be, the Bush legacy Roger and it represents the destruction of about two years worth of the entire worlds GDP. We are still monetizing that loss and will be for a decade. |
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"Hawke" wrote in message ... He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN Don't worry, Roger. When the public sees how much better this bill is going to make their health care they will not stay divided long. When you consider all the lies told by the right, when the people find out the truth, that they benefit from the health care reform the divisions created by right wing lies will quickly fade. Things are going to get better. As you will soon find out, the right has been telling you lies again, and again you fell for them. Did you forget the lies about WMDs already? You still trust the republicans when they tell you things? What's that thing Bush said fool me once shame on me...you know the rest that Bush butchered. Hawke Even Obama's own Doctor cousin said this health care bill was bad. But, I guess we'll see. RogerN Give it a chance. In time you may find it was the right thing to do or it may be a mistake. I doubt that but give it the test of time to see how it works before rejecting it out of hand. Believe me, everyone who says it's going to be a disaster are going to look really foolish if it makes things better. Hawke Something needed to be done, that's for sure. I just wished they would have sort of itemized things, kind of like pass a basic health plan that the majority agree on and then hammer out the controversial issues separately. RogerN |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. Have you read the relevant parts and the law? Or are you listening to the wackos? -- Ed Huntress Listening to the wackos of course! At one time ACLJ was supposed to have a list of the pages that contained the abortion language, I looked for it to post for Rangersuck but I didn't see it on their website. All I know was Obama was determined to pass the health care bill that the majority of the American people didn't want. Most of the objections I heard was because of abortion but Obama wouldn't budge, seems to Obama abortion is worth more than the rest of his health care bill. He'd prefer to bribe pro-life Democrats to compromise their beliefs than he would to separate out abortion and make it a separate issue. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in message ... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. Have you read the relevant parts and the law? Or are you listening to the wackos? -- Ed Huntress Listening to the wackos of course! At one time ACLJ was supposed to have a list of the pages that contained the abortion language, I looked for it to post for Rangersuck but I didn't see it on their website. All I know was Obama was determined to pass the health care bill that the majority of the American people didn't want. Most of the objections I heard was because of abortion but Obama wouldn't budge, seems to Obama abortion is worth more than the rest of his health care bill. He'd prefer to bribe pro-life Democrats to compromise their beliefs than he would to separate out abortion and make it a separate issue. RogerN Listen to the news tonight. The issue is cleared up for anyone who will pay attention. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mar 24, 10:08*pm, "RogerN" wrote:
"Hawke" wrote in message ... He doesn't need to leave the country because the USA no longer exists, welcome to Ameristan! *So much for Bi-partisan, so much for Obama's 5 days before signing any bill, so much for the constitution. *Thanks to the Democrats we have the Divided States of Ameristan. RogerN Don't worry, Roger. When the public sees how much better this bill is going to make their health care they will not stay divided long. When you consider all the lies told by the right, when the people find out the truth, that they benefit from the health care reform the divisions created by right wing lies will quickly fade. Things are going to get better. As you will soon find out, the right has been telling you lies again, and again you fell for them. Did you forget the lies about WMDs already? You still trust the republicans when they tell you things? What's that thing Bush said fool me once shame on me...you know the rest that Bush butchered. Hawke Even Obama's own Doctor cousin said this health care bill was bad. *But, I guess we'll see. RogerN Give it a chance. In time you may find it was the right thing to do or it may be a mistake. I doubt that but give it the test of time to see how it works before rejecting it out of hand. Believe me, everyone who says it's going to be a disaster are going to look really foolish if it makes things better. Hawke Something needed to be done, that's for sure. *I just wished they would have sort of itemized things, kind of like pass a basic health plan that the majority agree on and then hammer out the controversial issues separately.. RogerN No, Roger. You wished that Obama would be killed before he could sign this bill. |
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On Mar 24, 10:23*pm, "RogerN" wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message news:FbudnTjqIancwzTWnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews. com... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in messagenews:X7udncG0HNrexDTWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@gigan ews.com... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. *The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. Have you read the relevant parts and the law? Or are you listening to the wackos? -- Ed Huntress Listening to the wackos of course! At one time ACLJ was supposed to have a list of the pages that contained the abortion language, I looked for it to post for Rangersuck but I didn't see it on their website. *All I know was Obama was determined to pass the health care bill that the majority of the American people didn't want. *Most of the objections I heard was because of abortion but Obama wouldn't budge, seems to Obama abortion is worth more than the rest of his health care bill. *He'd prefer to bribe pro-life Democrats to compromise their beliefs than he would to separate out abortion and make it a separate issue. RogerN Where, oh where do you get this crap from? Are you perhaps finally getting the picture that the people who have been feeding this junk to you are, indeed, wackos? ACLJ hates Democrats, and will do or say anything it takes to fight against them. In this case, they told outright lies to you, preying on your anti-abortion position. Do you still trust them? |
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On Mar 24, 11:08*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message news:FbudnTjqIancwzTWnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews .com... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus15798" wrote in messagenews:X7udncG0HNrexDTWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@gigan ews.com... I did not know that there was such a rush to flee US. i Rush Limberbutt. He promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform passed. g However, he's giving it five years. In other words, he'll leave in five years, he said, if it passes and if it's all implemented by then. This probably leaves him some weasel room. Or, possibly he found out that Costa Rica already has universal health care. He's looking for a country even more backward regarding health care coverage than the US. Good luck, Rush. Maybe Zimbabwe. Nope. He'll have to visit Somalia. LOL Cripes, you mean that even Zimbabwe has universal health care? Rush will really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel. -- Ed Huntress Universal health care is one thing, no other nation has the Planned Parenthood Obamacare package. *The bill the majority was against but Obama and the Democrat politicians aren't there to represent the people, they are there for themselves. Have you read the relevant parts and the law? Or are you listening to the wackos? -- Ed Huntress Listening to the wackos of course! At one time ACLJ was supposed to have a list of the pages that contained the abortion language, I looked for it to post for Rangersuck but I didn't see it on their website. *All I know was Obama was determined to pass the health care bill that the majority of the American people didn't want. Most of the objections I heard was because of abortion but Obama wouldn't budge, seems to Obama abortion is worth more than the rest of his health care bill. *He'd prefer to bribe pro-life Democrats to compromise their beliefs than he would to separate out abortion and make it a separate issue. RogerN Listen to the news tonight. The issue is cleared up for anyone who will pay attention. -- Ed Huntress Well, that all depends. See, Obama signed the executive order affirming (for the zillionth time) that no federal monies are to be used to fund abortions. All well and good except: According to the wingers, Obama is not really the President, having been born in Africa and... Oh well... Meanwhile, the Democrats in the Senate are shooting down Republican "amendments" like ducks at a shooting gallery. Drinkin' a beer, kickin' back and watchin' C-SPAN. |
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Rush to flee US
Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Hedge funds and day traders - inventions of money people and voted by congress to give them permission stole our money. Hedge funds could sell/buy after and before market times. e.g. if Europe or Asia did this or that - they could cover their behinds and bet on the come. e.g. when profit was to be made - they got their big slice first. They also dumped stock without others knowing and got close price not open (their crashed) value. That isn't what happened Martin but carry on. Don't blame a President when congress passes 1000 page laws that no one knows what is in them - until they decide later..... Why not? He signed the things into law. That still isn't the real issue regarding Bush administration culpability. -- John R. Carroll |
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