"Cliff" wrote in message
news
[
Palin leaves office in disgrace
Hounded out of office by lack of honesty, illegal bank account
Sarah Palin quit Alaska Sunday in yet another confusing move by the
Republican
once beloved by many Alaskan residents.

During her resignation speech on Sunday in Fairbanks, Alaska, Palin
recalled
promising ethics reform as a gubernatorial candidate, saying, "We
promised it,
and now it is the law."

She failed to mention her obstruction of those laws that led to over 20
ethics
complaints, mostly by Republicans, from her illegal activities.
.....
]

The stupid bitch was ranting about journalists should not make up
stuff because of our soldiers ... she has been making up stuff from
day one and is ****ed that people actually report her own words ...

Indeed.

But now she is going to make a lot of money as she found out
that wingers will actually pay $$ for lies & stupidity.
Might cost Rush & Faux customers though.
--
Cliff



conan o'brien, tonight show, william shatner making fun of sarah palin's
resignation speech.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrie...72709/1139665/

b.w.

William Wixon wrote:
"Cliff" wrote in message
news
[
Palin leaves office in disgrace
Hounded out of office by lack of honesty, illegal bank account
Sarah Palin quit Alaska Sunday in yet another confusing move by the
Republican
once beloved by many Alaskan residents.

During her resignation speech on Sunday in Fairbanks, Alaska, Palin
recalled
promising ethics reform as a gubernatorial candidate, saying, "We
promised it,
and now it is the law."

She failed to mention her obstruction of those laws that led to over 20
ethics
complaints, mostly by Republicans, from her illegal activities.
.....
]
The stupid bitch was ranting about journalists should not make up
stuff because of our soldiers ... she has been making up stuff from
day one and is ****ed that people actually report her own words ...
Indeed.

But now she is going to make a lot of money as she found out
that wingers will actually pay $$ for lies & stupidity.
Might cost Rush & Faux customers though.
--
Cliff



conan o'brien, tonight show, william shatner making fun of sarah palin's
resignation speech.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrie...72709/1139665/

b.w.


Actually, he was quoting it directly.

And trust me, it was the most cogent part of the whole thing...

Thank you, Sarah, for making me feel even better about voting for Obama.

Stuart Wheaton wrote:
William Wixon wrote:
"Cliff" wrote in message
news
[
Palin leaves office in disgrace
Hounded out of office by lack of honesty, illegal bank account
Sarah Palin quit Alaska Sunday in yet another confusing move by
the Republican
once beloved by many Alaskan residents.

During her resignation speech on Sunday in Fairbanks, Alaska,
Palin recalled
promising ethics reform as a gubernatorial candidate, saying, "We
promised it,
and now it is the law."

She failed to mention her obstruction of those laws that led to
over 20 ethics
complaints, mostly by Republicans, from her illegal activities.
.....
]
The stupid bitch was ranting about journalists should not make up
stuff because of our soldiers ... she has been making up stuff from
day one and is ****ed that people actually report her own words ...
Indeed.

But now she is going to make a lot of money as she found out
that wingers will actually pay $$ for lies & stupidity.
Might cost Rush & Faux customers though.
--
Cliff



conan o'brien, tonight show, william shatner making fun of sarah
palin's resignation speech.


http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrie...72709/1139665/

b.w.


Actually, he was quoting it directly.

And trust me, it was the most cogent part of the whole thing...

Thank you, Sarah, for making me feel even better about voting for
Obama.

I watched the entire speech just after she gave it and it was a disjointed
stream of unconciousness as opposed to a stream of conciousness sort of
thing. I still think she's got a remote control electrical shock device of
some sort implanted in her body and some jokester stole the remote.

BZZZZZZZZTTT!
You Betcha'!

--
John R. Carroll

William Wixon wrote:
"Cliff" wrote in message
news
[
Palin leaves office in disgrace
Hounded out of office by lack of honesty, illegal bank account
Sarah Palin quit Alaska Sunday in yet another confusing move by the
Republican
once beloved by many Alaskan residents.

During her resignation speech on Sunday in Fairbanks, Alaska, Palin
recalled
promising ethics reform as a gubernatorial candidate, saying, "We
promised it,
and now it is the law."

She failed to mention her obstruction of those laws that led to over 20
ethics
complaints, mostly by Republicans, from her illegal activities.
.....
]

The stupid bitch was ranting about journalists should not make up
stuff because of our soldiers ... she has been making up stuff from
day one and is ****ed that people actually report her own words ...

Indeed.

But now she is going to make a lot of money as she found out
that wingers will actually pay $$ for lies & stupidity.
Might cost Rush & Faux customers though.
--
Cliff




conan o'brien, tonight show, william shatner making fun of sarah palin's
resignation speech.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrie...72709/1139665/

b.w.



You should have seen Steven Colbert's version of her speech. He had one
of those cold weather hats with the ear flaps on them on his desk and he
was pulling out little strips of paper like you get in a fortune cookie.
Each one had a cliche' written on it which he read. You couldn't tell
his reading of cliches from one of Palin's speeches. He nailed her
phoniness, big time. If you listen to what she says in a speech it is
meaningless and is just filled with platitudes to the troops, the
country, and the people, with a bunch of cliches thrown in to boot. Boy,
you want to talk about a not ready for prime time player?

Hawke

Hawke wrote:

Boy, you want to talk about a not ready for prime time player?

Hawke


Nah, we already talk about Obama enough here.

David

David R.Birch wrote:
Hawke wrote:

Boy, you want to talk about a not ready for prime time player?

Hawke



Nah, we already talk about Obama enough here.

David

You Obama doubters are going to have to eat your words. Good thing
everything is saved here so you won't be able to deny what you said.
That means when things turn around and Obama's policies turn the country
around you are going to look like a really bad prophet. Stupid too,
because none of you guys predicted that Bush would be such a bust. In
fact, you Obama doubters thought having our first "MBA" president was
going to be really great. Remember that? Your absolute **** judgment
about Bush being a good president is duly noted. Your error in judgment
about Obama will confirm what a lousy judge of people you are. Wait for
a year or two. When things have turned around I won't forget to remind
everyone that you were wrong once again.

Hawke

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:35:58 -0700, Hawke wrote:
David R.Birch wrote:
Hawke wrote:

Boy, you want to talk about a not ready for prime time player?

Nah, we already talk about Obama enough here.

You Obama doubters are going to have to eat your words. Good thing
everything is saved here so you won't be able to deny what you said.
That means when things turn around and Obama's policies turn the country
around you are going to look like a really bad prophet.

Or either that or we're going the way of the Soviet Union, unless somebody
steps up to stop those socialist obamaniacs.

Change? Yeah. from bad to worse, as it's happened since politicians have
run on "change".

The evidence? When they get done confiscating your paycheck to pay the
bills of the negligent freeloaders, there's pocket change left, if
anything at all.

Just watch, but take notes, so you can't selectively rewrite history.

Thanks,
Rich

While very few people like the current socio-economic/political
changes in the U.S., it is well to remember that the current
personalities have very little to do with what is occurring.

In many ways we are like a mass of ants on a drifting log in a
river headed over the falls. No matter how the ants run around
on the log or which side of the log they mass on, they are going
over the falls. As far as any of the ants can be said to be
responsible for this, there are the few that failed to preserve
the threads that kept the log tied to the shore, and the very few
that actively cut those threads because they wanted the log to go
somewhere, not just lay there.

The underlying causal factors appear to be financial/corporate
deregulation, international free trade, and open borders [for
both people and products/services].

These factors became active a generation or more ago, and were in
preparation for years before this. The side [undesired] effects
do not have seem to have been considered [or were ignored]. The
vast majority of citizens are now paying for this oversight, even
as the elite obtain wealth beyond the dreams of Crassus.
http://www.historynet.com/roman-pers...of-carrhae.htm

Because of these foundational changes, we are seeing a global
societal paradigm shift as substantial as the
evolution/transformation of the old midlevel / manorial
socio-economic/political model to that of the nation-state. At
that time everything and anything was blamed for the apparent
collapse in the social order.

For one mans take on what the world will look like in 2030 see
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...637830,00.html

Calling the current politicians names will not change anything.
Indeed, we more than likely are well past the point of no return,
and time/money spent in an attempt to reverse these changes is
simply sending good money after bad.

As the nation-states are largely disappearing before our eyes,
the critical challenge now appears to be how to control the mega-
transnational corporations, where the real economic/political
power now appears to be located.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:13:21 -0500, the infamous F. George McDuffee
scrawled the following:

--big snip--

Calling the current politicians names will not change anything.
Indeed, we more than likely are well past the point of no return,
and time/money spent in an attempt to reverse these changes is
simply sending good money after bad.

As the nation-states are largely disappearing before our eyes,
the critical challenge now appears to be how to control the mega-
transnational corporations, where the real economic/political
power now appears to be located.

Why do the futures-according-to-Max-Headroom/RoboCop loom so large
now? Eek!

--
A great preservative against angry and mutinous thoughts, and all
impatience and quarreling, is to have some great business and
interest in your mind, which, like a sponge shall suck up your
attention and keep you from brooding over what displeases you.
-- Joseph Rickaby

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
news
While very few people like the current socio-economic/political
changes in the U.S., it is well to remember that the current
personalities have very little to do with what is occurring.

In many ways we are like a mass of ants on a drifting log in a
river headed over the falls. No matter how the ants run around
on the log or which side of the log they mass on, they are going
over the falls. As far as any of the ants can be said to be
responsible for this, there are the few that failed to preserve
the threads that kept the log tied to the shore, and the very few
that actively cut those threads because they wanted the log to go
somewhere, not just lay there.

The underlying causal factors appear to be financial/corporate
deregulation, international free trade, and open borders [for
both people and products/services].

These factors became active a generation or more ago, and were in
preparation for years before this. The side [undesired] effects
do not have seem to have been considered [or were ignored]. The
vast majority of citizens are now paying for this oversight, even
as the elite obtain wealth beyond the dreams of Crassus.
http://www.historynet.com/roman-pers...of-carrhae.htm

Because of these foundational changes, we are seeing a global
societal paradigm shift as substantial as the
evolution/transformation of the old midlevel / manorial
socio-economic/political model to that of the nation-state. At
that time everything and anything was blamed for the apparent
collapse in the social order.

For one mans take on what the world will look like in 2030 see
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...637830,00.html

Calling the current politicians names will not change anything.
Indeed, we more than likely are well past the point of no return,
and time/money spent in an attempt to reverse these changes is
simply sending good money after bad.

As the nation-states are largely disappearing before our eyes,
the critical challenge now appears to be how to control the mega-
transnational corporations, where the real economic/political
power now appears to be located.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]




i just started reading a book called "Life Inc." only got a few pages into
it but it's damn scary. reading it gave me a trapped feeling (we're all
those trapped ants). it starts off with the history of corporations.

there's a short video of the author at amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Inc-World.../dp/1400066891

b.w.

F. George McDuffee wrote:
While very few people like the current socio-economic/political
changes in the U.S., it is well to remember that the current
personalities have very little to do with what is occurring.

In many ways we are like a mass of ants on a drifting log in a
river headed over the falls. No matter how the ants run around
on the log or which side of the log they mass on, they are going
over the falls. As far as any of the ants can be said to be
responsible for this, there are the few that failed to preserve
the threads that kept the log tied to the shore, and the very few
that actively cut those threads because they wanted the log to go
somewhere, not just lay there.

The underlying causal factors appear to be financial/corporate
deregulation, international free trade, and open borders [for
both people and products/services].

These factors became active a generation or more ago, and were in
preparation for years before this. The side [undesired] effects
do not have seem to have been considered [or were ignored]. The
vast majority of citizens are now paying for this oversight, even
as the elite obtain wealth beyond the dreams of Crassus.
http://www.historynet.com/roman-pers...of-carrhae.htm

Because of these foundational changes, we are seeing a global
societal paradigm shift as substantial as the
evolution/transformation of the old midlevel / manorial
socio-economic/political model to that of the nation-state. At
that time everything and anything was blamed for the apparent
collapse in the social order.

For one mans take on what the world will look like in 2030 see
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...637830,00.html

This makes George Orwell look like an optimist. Is there any room for
human rights in this? Looks like we'll be mostly proles.

David

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:37:44 -0500, "William Wixon"
wrote:

i just started reading a book called "Life Inc." only got a few pages into
it but it's damn scary. reading it gave me a trapped feeling (we're all
those trapped ants). it starts off with the history of corporations.
=======
You may like to see the section I did on the evolution of U.S.
corporations. Many people don't realize that the first "states"
were actually the corporations of their day under royal charter.

These were written in 1999.

see
http://mcduffee-associates.us/dissertation/corp.pdf

also my take on the socio-economic changes
http://mcduffee-associates.us/dissertation/accrmod.pdf

main page is
http://mcduffee-associates.us/dissertation/big-d.htm

Enjoy.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:13:21 -0500, F.George wrote:

The underlying causal factors appear to be financial/corporate
deregulation, international free trade, and open borders [for
both people and products/services].

Oh, gawd, the same ol' socialist litany - blame "deregulation".

In plain fact, the Free Market is the most brutal, merciless
regulator there can be - if people don't buy your crap, you go
broke.

The rest is just rhetoric. And, of course, your elected rulers
want to confiscate more of your money.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:29:50 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:

The underlying causal factors appear to be financial/corporate
deregulation, international free trade, and open borders [for
both people and products/services].

Oh, gawd, the same ol' socialist litany - blame "deregulation".
=======
There are several different kinds of regulations. Some impede
the operation of the free market, most don't do anything except
provide governmental employment, but a few insure the continued
existence of a free market by prohibiting price fixing, market
manipulation, interstate sale of adulterated products and several
more.

The continued existence of financial and other organizations that
are "too big to fail," is yet another example of a needed
regulation to protect the free market not being enacted or
enforced.

The repeal of Glass-Steagall, the enactment 2000 Commodity
Futures Trading Modernization Act [eliminating oversight of all
sorts of derivatives] and now the failure to regulate [ban]
"flash trading" otherwise known as "front running" in the
securities markets, are all examples of regulatory failure to
protect the free market.

It should be of great concern to all
conservative/populist/liberitarian voters that the *ONLY* voice
being raised against "flash" or "high frequency" securities
trading is Senator Schumer of N.Y., as liberal a politician as we
have in the U.S., and not a group [or even a single one] of the
"conservative" Republican defenders/appologists for the "Free
Market." Be reminded when individuals do this, it is called
"front running" and is illegal. Several traders have paid big
fines and/or are doing time for exactly this activity.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv...56R5OA20090728
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aZwoslIGa5JQ

Another example of the need for regulation is the disclosure that
several of the largest banks, just bailed out by the U.S.
taxpayer because they were "too big to fail," have awarded more
in executive bonuses that their total earnings.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aHURVoSUqpho

Its the "Free Market," not the "Free To Do Anything You Want
Market."


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).