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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
Well, i watched them magnaflux the suspected head and it is cracked
between the intake and exhaust valves. I had a few questions: 1. Can the head be fixed somehow. The machine shop said they dont do that work. 2. Where is the cheapest place to find a head if I need to do that. (3.9 v6 magnum) 3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? I appreciate your help! |
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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
stryped writes:
Well, i watched them magnaflux the suspected head and it is cracked between the intake and exhaust valves. I had a few questions: 1. Can the head be fixed somehow. The machine shop said they dont do that work. You'll need to find a shop that does, and ask them. I had a Mitsubishi (the infamous 2.6L) with a cracked head, and it wasn't possible on that one; on others, it is. 2. Where is the cheapest place to find a head if I need to do that. (3.9 v6 magnum) Local wrecking yard. Second cheapest is distant wrecking yard willing to pull and ship for you. I've actually had pretty good luck getting parts for my '78 Newport from wrecking yards when needed. For something like a cylinder head, that would be my first choice, planning to have it R&Red before using it (in the case of the Mitsu I mentioned above, they used a different, incompatible head casting for my year than for any other, and every one that turned up in a wrecking yard had, you guessed it, a crack right where mine did). 3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? I think if I'd dug as deeply into the engine as you have, I'd probably have the other head R&Red too, on general principles. The compression ratio will be slightly different as you suspect; I wouldn't expect it to matter (this isn't a race engine, after all), but you could either have them milled to match or use a shim on the one that's milled more. |
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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message ... stryped writes: Well, i watched them magnaflux the suspected head and it is cracked between the intake and exhaust valves. I had a few questions: 1. Can the head be fixed somehow. The machine shop said they dont do that work. You'll need to find a shop that does, and ask them. I had a Mitsubishi (the infamous 2.6L) with a cracked head, and it wasn't possible on that one; on others, it is. 2. Where is the cheapest place to find a head if I need to do that. (3.9 v6 magnum) Local wrecking yard. Second cheapest is distant wrecking yard willing to pull and ship for you. I've actually had pretty good luck getting parts for my '78 Newport from wrecking yards when needed. For something like a cylinder head, that would be my first choice, planning to have it R&Red before using it (in the case of the Mitsu I mentioned above, they used a different, incompatible head casting for my year than for any other, and every one that turned up in a wrecking yard had, you guessed it, a crack right where mine did). 3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? I think if I'd dug as deeply into the engine as you have, I'd probably have the other head R&Red too, on general principles. The compression ratio will be slightly different as you suspect; I wouldn't expect it to matter (this isn't a race engine, after all), but you could either have them milled to match or use a shim on the one that's milled more. Get a wrecking yard head or a rebuilt head. The difference in height is negligible, and welding of cast-iron heads is problematic at best. |
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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:29:03 -0700 (PDT), stryped wrote:
3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? Some years ago I needed to change one cylinder head on my wife's car - a 3.8L V-6. When I went to pick up a refurbished head from the local auto salvage guys, I was surprised to see that the refurbished head had a somewhat different shape to the chamber than the old head. I decided not to chance whether the difference would have a significant effect, and had them get me two heads of the same style. Bill -- Email address is a Spam trap. |
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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
But is that the source of the coolant leak? Many head designs crack
between the valve seats with no lomg term ill effects or the crack extending into the water jacket. It's not necessarily bad. Depends on the width of the crack, it's depth, and whether or not it can, or has extended deeper. The history of the particular head design is also significant. Any blogs on Dodge heads of your style doing this and causing your problem? Did they pressure test the head to see if it was leaking there? JR Dweller in the cellar stryped wrote: Well, i watched them magnaflux the suspected head and it is cracked between the intake and exhaust valves. I had a few questions: 1. Can the head be fixed somehow. The machine shop said they dont do that work. 2. Where is the cheapest place to find a head if I need to do that. (3.9 v6 magnum) 3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? I appreciate your help! -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:29:03 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote: Well, i watched them magnaflux the suspected head and it is cracked between the intake and exhaust valves. I had a few questions: 1. Can the head be fixed somehow. The machine shop said they dont do that work. 2. Where is the cheapest place to find a head if I need to do that. (3.9 v6 magnum) 3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? I appreciate your help! Check your local scrappies - they are bound to have an engine in the same condition as yours - you buy the GOOD head. |
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dakota update, the head is cracked :(
On Apr 17, 11:29*pm, stryped wrote:
Well, i watched them magnaflux the suspected head and it is cracked between the intake and exhaust valves. I had a few questions: 1. Can the head be fixed somehow. The machine shop said they dont do that work. 2. Where is the cheapest place to find a head if I need to do that. (3.9 v6 magnum) 3. If I have to buy a rebuilt head, is there a problem having one "new" head and an old head? What if the rebuilt head was milled and the old one was not? Wouldnt their hights be different? I appreciate your help! Easiest to simply find a whole good running engine and swap it in. If you'd started doing that when you first asked about all this, you'd be done by now. Even now, it's the easiest way to guarantee that you have a running truck when you're done. |
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