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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:07:34 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:08:15 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: I aquired a Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer from an estate a few months ago. Checking the web, all evidence pointed to it being a spline drive..using spline drive drill bits. So I bought 4 NOS bits on Ebay, from 3 different sellers, and they arrived over the past two weeks. Coming home today for the 1st time in 2 weeks, I drug em and the drill out..and ****meruning..but the drill is 7/16 HEX drive. damndamndamndamn...$80+..and they dont farking fit. The AEG I bought at auction also uses hex drive bits, but it came with an adapter that accepts A-taper bits. McMaster has one for your Milwaukee for $25, p/n 2813A41. It's easy to turn a taper on the shank of just about any bit to fit the adapter. I don't use the tool enough to know how well it'd work for everyday use with large core bits, but it does just fine for my occasional use. A-taper? Those are the Morse taper type bits? Thanks! Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:01:06 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:31:44 +0530, Gunner Asch wrote: A-taper? Those are the Morse taper type bits? Yes, but the taper is quite small, and obviously not very fussy. Probably a little smaller than a #1 MT. Even it proves to be inconvenient for regular use, as long as you have a lathe available to turn the taper, the adapter is handy in a pinch for using the bits in that $2 yard sale box. They tend to spin when loaded heavily? This Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer is a beast! Got to weigh at least 15 lbs, looks like a Sawzall on steroids after a sex change operation. I have (1) 7/16" hex shank 1.5" auger bit, and ran it through a 12" timber like it was styrofoam. Needed those pipe handles though..way..thats not a wrist breaker..its a shoulder dislocater. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:27:42 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:22:59 +0530, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:01:06 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:31:44 +0530, Gunner Asch wrote: A-taper? Those are the Morse taper type bits? Yes, but the taper is quite small, and obviously not very fussy. Probably a little smaller than a #1 MT. Even it proves to be inconvenient for regular use, as long as you have a lathe available to turn the taper, the adapter is handy in a pinch for using the bits in that $2 yard sale box. They tend to spin when loaded heavily? This Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer is a beast! Got to weigh at least 15 lbs, looks like a Sawzall on steroids after a sex change operation. I have (1) 7/16" hex shank 1.5" auger bit, and ran it through a 12" timber like it was styrofoam. Needed those pipe handles though..way..thats not a wrist breaker..its a shoulder dislocater. I've only seen the tapers on masonry bits, and I doubt they'd be suitable for conventional twist drills or wood augers. I just found found a pic of your Milwaukee - it looks like something from a Terminator movie. My AEG is perhaps 3/4 the size and cuddly-looking by comparison. Looks like it should have a belt feed or something sticking out of it. G http://cgi.ebay.com/MILWAUKEE-ROTARY-HAMMER-5300-ROTO-DRILL_W0QQitemZ120212845465QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6391 9QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
I aquired a Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer from an estate a few months
ago. Checking the web, all evidence pointed to it being a spline drive..using spline drive drill bits. So I bought 4 NOS bits on Ebay, from 3 different sellers, and they arrived over the past two weeks. Coming home today for the 1st time in 2 weeks, I drug em and the drill out..and ****meruning..but the drill is 7/16 HEX drive. damndamndamndamn...$80+..and they dont farking fit. Anybody want to buy some brand new spline drive masonry bits? Anybody got any decent 7/16" hex drive bits they want to part with? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Jan 20, 4:08 am, Gunner Asch wrote:
I aquired a Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer from an estate a few months ago. Checking the web, all evidence pointed to it being a spline drive..using spline drive drill bits. So I bought 4 NOS bits on Ebay, from 3 different sellers, and they arrived over the past two weeks. Coming home today for the 1st time in 2 weeks, I drug em and the drill out..and ****meruning..but the drill is 7/16 HEX drive. damndamndamndamn...$80+..and they dont farking fit. Anybody want to buy some brand new spline drive masonry bits? Anybody got any decent 7/16" hex drive bits they want to part with? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner OOPS! |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:08:15 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: I aquired a Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer from an estate a few months ago. Checking the web, all evidence pointed to it being a spline drive..using spline drive drill bits. So I bought 4 NOS bits on Ebay, from 3 different sellers, and they arrived over the past two weeks. Coming home today for the 1st time in 2 weeks, I drug em and the drill out..and ****meruning..but the drill is 7/16 HEX drive. damndamndamndamn...$80+..and they dont farking fit. The AEG I bought at auction also uses hex drive bits, but it came with an adapter that accepts A-taper bits. McMaster has one for your Milwaukee for $25, p/n 2813A41. It's easy to turn a taper on the shank of just about any bit to fit the adapter. I don't use the tool enough to know how well it'd work for everyday use with large core bits, but it does just fine for my occasional use. -- Ned Simmons |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:31:44 +0530, Gunner Asch
wrote: A-taper? Those are the Morse taper type bits? Yes, but the taper is quite small, and obviously not very fussy. Probably a little smaller than a #1 MT. Even it proves to be inconvenient for regular use, as long as you have a lathe available to turn the taper, the adapter is handy in a pinch for using the bits in that $2 yard sale box. -- Ned Simmons |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:22:59 +0530, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:01:06 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:31:44 +0530, Gunner Asch wrote: A-taper? Those are the Morse taper type bits? Yes, but the taper is quite small, and obviously not very fussy. Probably a little smaller than a #1 MT. Even it proves to be inconvenient for regular use, as long as you have a lathe available to turn the taper, the adapter is handy in a pinch for using the bits in that $2 yard sale box. They tend to spin when loaded heavily? This Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer is a beast! Got to weigh at least 15 lbs, looks like a Sawzall on steroids after a sex change operation. I have (1) 7/16" hex shank 1.5" auger bit, and ran it through a 12" timber like it was styrofoam. Needed those pipe handles though..way..thats not a wrist breaker..its a shoulder dislocater. I've only seen the tapers on masonry bits, and I doubt they'd be suitable for conventional twist drills or wood augers. I just found found a pic of your Milwaukee - it looks like something from a Terminator movie. My AEG is perhaps 3/4 the size and cuddly-looking by comparison. -- Ned Simmons |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
Gunner Asch wrote: I aquired a Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer from an estate a few months ago. Checking the web, all evidence pointed to it being a spline drive..using spline drive drill bits. So I bought 4 NOS bits on Ebay, from 3 different sellers, and they arrived over the past two weeks. Coming home today for the 1st time in 2 weeks, I drug em and the drill out..and ****meruning..but the drill is 7/16 HEX drive. damndamndamndamn...$80+..and they dont farking fit. Anybody want to buy some brand new spline drive masonry bits? Yeah, know the feeling. There are some items on eBay that go around 5 or even 10 times before they settle with somebody that can actually use them. And, the oly people who are really getting ahead are UPS, Fed Ex ground and the like! Jon |
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$#!! Ooops...roto-hammer bits
On Sunday, January 20, 2008 at 7:08:15 AM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:
I aquired a Milwaukee 5300 roto hammer from an estate a few months ago. Checking the web, all evidence pointed to it being a spline drive..using spline drive drill bits. So I bought 4 NOS bits on Ebay, from 3 different sellers, and they arrived over the past two weeks. Coming home today for the 1st time in 2 weeks, I drug em and the drill out..and ****meruning..but the drill is 7/16 HEX drive. damndamndamndamn...$80+..and they dont farking fit. Anybody want to buy some brand new spline drive masonry bits? Anybody got any decent 7/16" hex drive bits they want to part with? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner how d you get the drill bit out of the 5300 |
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