SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



I move stuff around, or replace boxes, but nothing really gets tossed in
the end.

Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve

"SteveB" wrote:
Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The kind of personality that would have an easy time thinning out the stuff
wouldn't have accumulated it in the first place.

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a
lot. I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the
day. I'll go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve

The pain is unbearable.

Best Regards
Tom.

azotic wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a
lot. I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the
day. I'll go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve


The pain is unbearable.

Best Regards
Tom.




Take comfort fron the fact that there are lots of folk who have
accumulated a great deal more than you have.
And are proud of it,
Ill put myself in that category, im primarily a metal craftsman, but
work wood and all sorts of other materials.
Ive been hoarding for 35 years!!
and still adding storage space as useful items turn up at our local
recycling center.
thre are other freinds of mine that have even more stuff,
ones a farmer and has never thrown out anything in 50 yrs, he has
everything he has ever bought.in the way of machinery.
Im currently reorganising everything as its been a very busy the last 5
years and its time for a tidy up.

ted Dorset UK.

"SteveB" wrote:

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

I don't have any trouble now. I gave up. Sure wish I had the house paid
for, I need to build a shop addition.

Wes

SteveB wrote:


Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve

I used to have that affliction, not so much these days. Not sure if
that's good of bad however as my current "ah screw it, I'll never get
around to doing anything with that" mode is kind of depressing...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
snip
I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

Loose Ram-set charges mixed with hardware? Are you NUTS? Secure those
charges...NOW!

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up other
folks' shells as well?

Ernie Sty wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up other
folks' shells as well?

I believe he's referring to live .22 loads for a powder actuated nail
gun.

SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



Guilty as charged judge...

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did
the McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of
pegboard, mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud
of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very
apparently garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can.
Then I thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just
recently was looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on
the floor and went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of
strap, corner braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt
somehow a little more secure afterward thinking I may have saved some
treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together. Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up other
folks' shells as well?


Jeezus ****ing H Christ, Pard! Back up a step.

I got a box of stuff from a union sheetrocker that I bought a condo from.
..22 charges, drywall screws, copious amounts of work materials, all probably
from the job. (NOT to insinuate that ANY good union man would EVER take
home materials from the job, mind you.)

It's just stuff I have carted around, and picked from and picked over and
now am disposing of.

Get a life and quit trying to ESP the morals and intentions of others.

Sheesh.

Steve

Yea Me.
I filled a 55' truck and drove a 14' myself in my move.
The 55' was to be shared with two small movers. Yea right - I told them
two weeks before no way. Whole line truck.

I used the blanket racks below the bed since they were empty.

Barbara and I bought 300 book boxes a month before to pack out books ourselves.
That saved a lot of packer tears and later where the heck is that book...
Numbers are a friend.

Collector in a number of collections... :-) I get it legal.
Mom and Dad lived through the depression and they were the same way.
Never throw out anything that could be used.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:03:18 -0400, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
snip
I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

Loose Ram-set charges mixed with hardware? Are you NUTS? Secure those
charges...NOW!


Safe as can be.

Just dont drop the bucket off a roof.

Gunner

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:56:55 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



Guilty as charged judge...

Jeff

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....


Gunner

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner wrote on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38
-0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:56:55 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



Guilty as charged judge...

Jeff

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.


Gunner
--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

pyotr filipivich wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner wrote on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38
-0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:56:55 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



Guilty as charged judge...

Jeff

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Gunner wrote:
Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

"For now", you mean 8-) One version of Murphy's Law is "Stuff will
expand to fill the space available". So, 2 containers now WILL get
filled. Then you'll need 2 (or maybe 4 - it could be exponential) more.

Like many/most phenomena, it's the rate that is most important. How
fast does one fill the space available. Applying that rate to your life
expectancy you get the volume of stuff that your heirs will have to
dispose of. There's no way around it.

BG,
Bob

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

Gunner wrote:
Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

"For now", you mean 8-) One version of Murphy's Law is "Stuff will
expand to fill the space available". So, 2 containers now WILL get
filled. Then you'll need 2 (or maybe 4 - it could be exponential) more.

That's the excuse to get the gantry crane, so you can stack your
containers to save space...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I've found several old ones locally for. . . only $2,800 each! thud

--
Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire
is that which he exercises over himself.
-- Elie Wiesel

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
"Pete C." wrote on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500
in rec.crafts.metalworking :
pyotr filipivich wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner wrote on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38
-0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:56:55 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



Guilty as charged judge...

Jeff

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Just get a couple 40 footers, and put them in there. Three for the
price of six!

tschus
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
....
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

SteveB wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
...
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to send out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Class?

Class?

(Imagine Ben Stein in Ferris Beuller's Day Off)

Steve

They double stack them by rail... Of course not many of us have our own
rail sidings

Two 20' containers would readily fit on the usual 45'+ tilt bed trailers
they normally use to deliver containers to ground level sites actually.

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I've found several old ones locally for. . . only $2,800 each! thud

--
Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire
is that which he exercises over himself.
-- Elie Wiesel

Insane. I got a 40' in fantastic condition for like $2k delivered and
with fresh paint. Of course the price of steel has gone up since then,
but not that much.

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
...
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to send out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Class?

Class?

(Imagine Ben Stein in Ferris Beuller's Day Off)

Steve

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:14:39 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I've found several old ones locally for. . . only $2,800 each! thud

--
Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire
is that which he exercises over himself.
-- Elie Wiesel

Insane. I got a 40' in fantastic condition for like $2k delivered and
with fresh paint. Of course the price of steel has gone up since then,
but not that much.

The used 40-footers are $3,200 around here, repainted and refurbed
with chest-high latches (an actual improvement!) The $2,800 was for a
refurbed 20-footer, but still... You can buy them brand new from the
makers for about $4k.

--
Reading well is one of the great pleasures that solitude can afford you.
-- Harold Bloom, O Magazine, April 2003

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:23:25 -0700, Gunner
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:03:18 -0400, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
snip
I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

Loose Ram-set charges mixed with hardware? Are you NUTS? Secure those
charges...NOW!


Safe as can be.

Just dont drop the bucket off a roof.

Gunner
Cartridge + anvil + BFH = BANG
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

SteveB wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
...
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty
cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't
know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to send
out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Class?

Class?

(Imagine Ben Stein in Ferris Beuller's Day Off)

Steve

They double stack them by rail... Of course not many of us have our own
rail sidings

Two 20' containers would readily fit on the usual 45'+ tilt bed trailers
they normally use to deliver containers to ground level sites actually.

Remember the 13'6" federal height limits. IIRC, that is what it is on most
overpasses.

Steve

Um, two 20' containers will fit end to end on said 45'+ flatbed.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, Gunner
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:56:55 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:

SteveB wrote:
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I thought,
why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently was looking for
one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor and went through
it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner braces, ones and twos
of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little more secure afterward
thinking I may have saved some treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

I hung up four flat racks that used to make up a standing rack. I put them
18" down from the ceiling, and use them for the light stuff. Took a lot of
stuff off the floor.

I was feeling so obsessive/compulsive, and really didn't throw away a lot.
I paused for a beer, and about three later, shut her down for the day. I'll
go at it tomorrow, but I just have so much to categorize.

Is it me, or does everyone have trouble paring down "stuff"?

Steve



Guilty as charged judge...

Jeff

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....


Gunner
Where's Casshole when we need him?
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
...
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty
cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't
know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to send
out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Class?

Class?

(Imagine Ben Stein in Ferris Beuller's Day Off)

Steve

They double stack them by rail... Of course not many of us have our own
rail sidings

Two 20' containers would readily fit on the usual 45'+ tilt bed trailers
they normally use to deliver containers to ground level sites actually.

Remember the 13'6" federal height limits. IIRC, that is what it is on most
overpasses.

Steve

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
...
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can
just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff
away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not
sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty
cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting
two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the
cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the
same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two
separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't
know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to
send
out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Class?

Class?

(Imagine Ben Stein in Ferris Beuller's Day Off)

Steve

They double stack them by rail... Of course not many of us have our own
rail sidings

Two 20' containers would readily fit on the usual 45'+ tilt bed
trailers
they normally use to deliver containers to ground level sites actually.

Remember the 13'6" federal height limits. IIRC, that is what it is on
most
overpasses.

Steve

Um, two 20' containers will fit end to end on said 45'+ flatbed.

Sorry. Thought I heard mention of STACKING them.

Never mind.

Steve

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:22:59 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:14:39 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I've found several old ones locally for. . . only $2,800 each! thud

--
Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire
is that which he exercises over himself.
-- Elie Wiesel

Insane. I got a 40' in fantastic condition for like $2k delivered and
with fresh paint. Of course the price of steel has gone up since then,
but not that much.

The used 40-footers are $3,200 around here, repainted and refurbed
with chest-high latches (an actual improvement!) The $2,800 was for a
refurbed 20-footer, but still... You can buy them brand new from the
makers for about $4k.


You can buy em at the terminals for about $800-1000 in good shape. The
rest is transportation costs.

Gunner

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:49:39 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:22:59 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:14:39 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I've found several old ones locally for. . . only $2,800 each! thud

--
Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire
is that which he exercises over himself.
-- Elie Wiesel

Insane. I got a 40' in fantastic condition for like $2k delivered and
with fresh paint. Of course the price of steel has gone up since then,
but not that much.

The used 40-footers are $3,200 around here, repainted and refurbed
with chest-high latches (an actual improvement!) The $2,800 was for a
refurbed 20-footer, but still... You can buy them brand new from the
makers for about $4k.


You can buy em at the terminals for about $800-1000 in good shape. The
rest is transportation costs.

Terminals? Like San Pedro, or what?

--
Reading well is one of the great pleasures that solitude can afford you.
-- Harold Bloom, O Magazine, April 2003

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:44:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:49:39 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:22:59 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:14:39 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

Maybe its a good time for a group buy of 20' cargo containers?

I could use 2.....

I've found several old ones locally for. . . only $2,800 each! thud

--
Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire
is that which he exercises over himself.
-- Elie Wiesel

Insane. I got a 40' in fantastic condition for like $2k delivered and
with fresh paint. Of course the price of steel has gone up since then,
but not that much.

The used 40-footers are $3,200 around here, repainted and refurbed
with chest-high latches (an actual improvement!) The $2,800 was for a
refurbed 20-footer, but still... You can buy them brand new from the
makers for about $4k.


You can buy em at the terminals for about $800-1000 in good shape. The
rest is transportation costs.

Terminals? Like San Pedro, or what?


Ayup.

Gunner

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:03:18 -0400, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
snip
I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors
and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

Loose Ram-set charges mixed with hardware? Are you NUTS? Secure those
charges...NOW!


Safe as can be.

Just dont drop the bucket off a roof.

Gunner

Sure they're safe...for now. What's the future bring? Will kids ever get
access to them? Or worse yet...Democrats? Somebody's gona' loose an eye!

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did
the McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of
pegboard, mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud
of myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very
apparently garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can.
Then I thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just
recently was looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on
the floor and went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of
strap, corner braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt
somehow a little more secure afterward thinking I may have saved some
treasures from the dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together. Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up other
folks' shells as well?


Jeezus ****ing H Christ, Pard! Back up a step.

I got a box of stuff from a union sheetrocker that I bought a condo from.
.22 charges, drywall screws, copious amounts of work materials, all
probably from the job. (NOT to insinuate that ANY good union man would
EVER take home materials from the job, mind you.)

It's just stuff I have carted around, and picked from and picked over and
now am disposing of.

Get a life and quit trying to ESP the morals and intentions of others.

I beg your pardon. I never said or even insinuated a thing about your
morals. I was expressing curiosity, NOTHING MORE. I've done a bit of
target shooting, and I know ammo doesn't grow on trees. My dad had a
shotgun shell reloader in the basement to save money on shells spent at the
trap club. It hadn't occurred to me that they were for a nail gun, thank
you for explaining that. I'm sorry you arrived at the conclusion that I was
saying something about your intentions and morals, but I don't see how
anything I wrote there could reasonably be construed as such.

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did
the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of
myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very
apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently
was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor
and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little
more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures from the
dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up other
folks' shells as well?

I believe he's referring to live .22 loads for a powder actuated nail
gun.

Thanks. I had forgotten they even had those. How do they work, anyway? Do
they accelerate the nail to high velocity and momentum carries it in, or
does the shell charge just pound in the nail in one blow?

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:13:02 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Tom
Gardner" quickly quoth:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:03:18 -0400, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
snip
I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors
and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

Loose Ram-set charges mixed with hardware? Are you NUTS? Secure those
charges...NOW!


Safe as can be.

Just dont drop the bucket off a roof.

Gunner

Sure they're safe...for now. What's the future bring? Will kids ever get
access to them? Or worse yet...Democrats? Somebody's gona' loose an eye!

Let's hope it's only a Demonrat who loses an eye. They can't see rhyme
nor reason anyway.

P.S: "lose"

--
Reading well is one of the great pleasures that solitude can afford you.
-- Harold Bloom, O Magazine, April 2003

Ernie Sty wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I did
the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of
myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very
apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently
was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the floor
and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a little
more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures from the
dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up other
folks' shells as well?

I believe he's referring to live .22 loads for a powder actuated nail
gun.

Thanks. I had forgotten they even had those. How do they work, anyway? Do
they accelerate the nail to high velocity and momentum carries it in, or
does the shell charge just pound in the nail in one blow?

Neither. Low velocity. Charge acts on a piston that drives the ram that
drives the nail. All done in one shot. Different color coded charge
level loads to use depending on what size nail and into what material.
The really good guns have power level adjustments that let you fine tune
the driving force.

Pete,

I still have an old RamSet high velocity, no piston. Powder load
drives the nail. NOT OSHA approved.

The clip fed RedHead is safer, easier, and low velocity.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent
move. I did
the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet
of pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty
proud of
myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were
very
apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage
can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I
just recently
was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can
on the floor
and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of
strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt
somehow a little
more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures
from the
dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all
mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of
wood and metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to
recycle them? And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you
pick up other
folks' shells as well?

I believe he's referring to live .22 loads for a powder
actuated nail
gun.

Thanks. I had forgotten they even had those. How do they
work, anyway? Do
they accelerate the nail to high velocity and momentum carries
it in, or
does the shell charge just pound in the nail in one blow?

Neither. Low velocity. Charge acts on a piston that drives the
ram that
drives the nail. All done in one shot. Different color coded
charge
level loads to use depending on what size nail and into what
material.
The really good guns have power level adjustments that let you
fine tune
the driving force.