"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:13:02 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Tom
Gardner" quickly quoth:


"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:03:18 -0400, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
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I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there. Thousands of nuts
and
bolts to be categorized, and hundreds of one of a kind use connectors
and
things. Plus lots of hanging plastic boxes from the Borg to fill up
the
hundred pegboard hooks I have.

Loose Ram-set charges mixed with hardware? Are you NUTS? Secure those
charges...NOW!


Safe as can be.

Just dont drop the bucket off a roof.

Gunner

Sure they're safe...for now. What's the future bring? Will kids ever get
access to them? Or worse yet...Democrats? Somebody's gona' loose an eye!

Let's hope it's only a Demonrat who loses an eye. They can't see rhyme
nor reason anyway.

I sure hope the libertarians don't lose an eye. They're going to need both
of them just to stay alive in their utopian jungle. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

DanG wrote:

Pete,

I still have an old RamSet high velocity, no piston. Powder load
drives the nail. NOT OSHA approved.

The clip fed RedHead is safer, easier, and low velocity.


Hilti DX36M, low velocity, strip fed, variable force and damn near
silenced. Great toy...

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:48:33 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:13:02 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Tom
Gardner" quickly quoth:

Sure they're safe...for now. What's the future bring? Will kids ever get
access to them? Or worse yet...Democrats? Somebody's gona' loose an eye!

Let's hope it's only a Demonrat who loses an eye. They can't see rhyme
nor reason anyway.

I sure hope the libertarians don't lose an eye. They're going to need both
of them just to stay alive in their utopian jungle. d8-)

And the Republicans have all that Shrubby wool over theirs, so they're
safe.

--
Reading well is one of the great pleasures that solitude can afford you.
-- Harold Bloom, O Magazine, April 2003

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:16:31 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, "Tom
Gardner" quickly quoth:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
snip
P.S: "lose"

I'm old and I don't care anymore!

And you just misspelled "illiterate", boyo.

--
Reading well is one of the great pleasures that solitude can afford you.
-- Harold Bloom, O Magazine, April 2003

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
snip
P.S: "lose"

I'm old and I don't care anymore!

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:40:14 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:


I sure hope the libertarians don't lose an eye. They're going to need both
of them just to stay alive in their utopian jungle. d8-)

And the Republicans have all that Shrubby wool over theirs, so they're
safe.

And if its a Democrat..the eye will be easy to find. Its in the large
intestine with their heads.

Gunner

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:18:01 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:40:14 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:


I sure hope the libertarians don't lose an eye. They're going to need both
of them just to stay alive in their utopian jungle. d8-)

And the Republicans have all that Shrubby wool over theirs, so they're
safe.

And if its a Democrat..the eye will be easy to find. Its in the large
intestine with their heads.

Bwahahaha! Ayup (and we won't ask how you found it there.

--
Remember: Every silver lining has a cloud.
----

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:18:01 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:


On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:40:14 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:


I sure hope the libertarians don't lose an eye. They're going to need both
of them just to stay alive in their utopian jungle. d8-)

And the Republicans have all that Shrubby wool over theirs, so they're
safe.

And if its a Democrat..the eye will be easy to find. Its in the large
intestine with their heads.


Bwahahaha! Ayup (and we won't ask how you found it there.

--
Remember: Every silver lining has a cloud.
----


..223 at high velocity.

Kinda turns things inside out.

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:42:50 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:40:50 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
...
I could use two, but one would be enough. Now if I can just
figure
out where to put it first. At least I don't have to clear stuff away
first. Yet.

I could use at least one 20' container myself, possibly two. Not sure
about the feasibility of a group buy however since they are pretty cheap
to begin with and the shipping expense is the issue.

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Thanks,
Rich

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to send out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Think rail. They load two high all day long. Cheaper than trucking
too.

Snarl

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:53:50 -0700, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:42:50 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:
"Rich Grise" wrote...

Would shipping a stack of two be significantly more expensive than
shipping one?

Transportation height limitations would keep you from transporting two.
Although, they do move houses and tall things. It's just that the cost
becomes prohibitive. So, whatever it costs to have two sent at the same
time, that's what it costs. Perhaps they could put them on two separate
trailers with one tractor. (Diesel powered pulling rig) But I don't know
about how they offload, and if companies would do that, or have to send out
two separate trucks. Maybe a flatbed with a trailer ...........

Think rail. They load two high all day long. Cheaper than trucking
too.

Yes, but that's a special multiple-unit train (usually 5 or 6
flatcars permanently attached in a row) with "sow-belly" well cars
that have the bottom container practically touching the rails.

The US Standard for maximum railcar load height is ... I just
wasted an hour searching, and can't find a stupid copy of the AAR
clearance Plates. Lots of references, no paydirt.

Even if you custom built a low-boy road truck trailer that had the
container practically scraping the freeway the same way, you still
can't get two regular shippers down the road stacked - the usual
height maximum for a road-going truck or trailer (without Oversized
Load permits and special routing) is 13' 8" tall. Most shippers are
8' tall, do the math.

-- Bruce --

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I
did
the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of
pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of
myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very
apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently
was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the
floor
and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a
little
more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures from the
dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and
metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them?
And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up
other
folks' shells as well?

I believe he's referring to live .22 loads for a powder actuated nail
gun.

Thanks. I had forgotten they even had those. How do they work, anyway?
Do
they accelerate the nail to high velocity and momentum carries it in, or
does the shell charge just pound in the nail in one blow?

Neither. Low velocity. Charge acts on a piston that drives the ram that
drives the nail. All done in one shot. Different color coded charge
level loads to use depending on what size nail and into what material.
The really good guns have power level adjustments that let you fine tune
the driving force.

Interesting. Is there gear reduction between the piston and the ram?

"DanG" wrote in message
...
Pete,

I still have an old RamSet high velocity, no piston. Powder load drives
the nail. NOT OSHA approved.

I should think not, LOL! Must be fun though, under the right safe
conditions of course.

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:38:19 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

The US Standard for maximum railcar load height is ...

According to BNSF.com, anything over 17' 0" above Top Of Rail, or
11' 0" wide is an "Excess Dimension Load".

Also found something about electrified roads having standard
catenaries at 23' ATOR.

-- Bruce --

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:22:43 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:


"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ernie Sty wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Today, I attacked the garage full of boxes from my recent move. I
did
the
McGyver thing and put up some old cabinets I had, a sheet of
pegboard,
mounted the screw drawer arranger thinguses. Was pretty proud of
myself.

Then, I started on the boxes. As I went, some things were very
apparently
garbage. I was tossing a lot of things in the garbage can. Then I
thought, why, I could use that for this or that. Or I just recently
was
looking for one of those. So, I emptied the garbage can on the
floor
and
went through it again. I now have a box of pieces of strap, corner
braces, ones and twos of all manner of crap. I felt somehow a
little
more
secure afterward thinking I may have saved some treasures from the
dumper.

I still have three 5 gallon buckets full of fasteners, all mixed
together.
Must be 5,000 .22 cal powder cartridges in there.

snip

Steve

Ok, I can see why you'd want to save fasteners, scraps of wood and
metal,
etc--but why do you save .22 shells? Are you going to recycle them?
And
what on earth are you spending that much ammo on--or do you pick up
other
folks' shells as well?

I believe he's referring to live .22 loads for a powder actuated nail
gun.

Thanks. I had forgotten they even had those. How do they work, anyway?
Do
they accelerate the nail to high velocity and momentum carries it in, or
does the shell charge just pound in the nail in one blow?

Neither. Low velocity. Charge acts on a piston that drives the ram that
drives the nail. All done in one shot. Different color coded charge
level loads to use depending on what size nail and into what material.
The really good guns have power level adjustments that let you fine tune
the driving force.

Interesting. Is there gear reduction between the piston and the ram?

No mechanical linkage. Some use valving to bleed off the gas.

Gunner

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:38:19 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:



Even if you custom built a low-boy road truck trailer that had the
container practically scraping the freeway the same way, you still
can't get two regular shippers down the road stacked - the usual
height maximum for a road-going truck or trailer (without Oversized
Load permits and special routing) is 13' 8" tall. Most shippers are
8' tall, do the math.

-- Bruce --
So apply the solution given by theoretical math specialists, use
negative clearance. It works in theory!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Gerald Miller writes:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:38:19 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

Even if you custom built a low-boy road truck trailer that had the
container practically scraping the freeway the same way, you still
can't get two regular shippers down the road stacked - the usual
height maximum for a road-going truck or trailer (without Oversized
Load permits and special routing) is 13' 8" tall. Most shippers are
8' tall, do the math.

So apply the solution given by theoretical math specialists, use
negative clearance. It works in theory!

There was a truck driver in Canada who made fark.com a while back for
trying it in practice -- she almost made it, too. I'd guess there was
only about a foot of trailer that hadn't gotten squeezed under the
overpass...