In my continuing effort to clean out the Stacks O Stuff, I
occasionally put things on Craigslist.

I posted a set of 4 tires and rims for pre 1966 VWs..the open center
type. $50 for a set of 4, just to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
Good tires and wheels.

Guy emails me, wants photos. So I sent em to him.

He apparently lives over in Bakersfield, a 32 mile drive.

He then asks if I can deliver them. Free.

I say my wife is over there a couple times a week, but he is sure
asking a lot for $50.

He emails back all ****y, that it costs him $50 to drive the 64 mile
round trip, and the tires and rims arent worth $100 to him.

So I email him back and tell him that its a bit much asking my
handicapped wife to load two tires in her car, deliver them, then make
a return trip with two more, all for free.

But since I want them gone and he was willing to spend $50 on them,
Ill give them to him free, no charge, gratis if he drives over and
picks them up, as I dont often see too many vehicles that get 3 miles
per gallon on the hiway and it would be fun to look at.

Ive not heard from the ****er yet.

Geeze..some peoples kids.....
Hummm...sounds like a couple folks here who have been offered free
machines in good working condition who wanted em delivered several
hundred miles away.....

Gunner

Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.

i

Gunner wrote:

In my continuing effort to clean out the Stacks O Stuff, I
occasionally put things on Craigslist.

I posted a set of 4 tires and rims for pre 1966 VWs..the open center
type. $50 for a set of 4, just to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
Good tires and wheels.

Guy emails me, wants photos. So I sent em to him.

He apparently lives over in Bakersfield, a 32 mile drive.

He then asks if I can deliver them. Free.

I say my wife is over there a couple times a week, but he is sure
asking a lot for $50.

He emails back all ****y, that it costs him $50 to drive the 64 mile
round trip, and the tires and rims arent worth $100 to him.

So I email him back and tell him that its a bit much asking my
handicapped wife to load two tires in her car, deliver them, then make
a return trip with two more, all for free.

But since I want them gone and he was willing to spend $50 on them,
Ill give them to him free, no charge, gratis if he drives over and
picks them up, as I dont often see too many vehicles that get 3 miles
per gallon on the hiway and it would be fun to look at.

Ive not heard from the ****er yet.

You have to remember that with completely free ads, it costs someone nothing to
post one or to respond to one. He can toss off an email in 30 seconds which is
as close to free as I can think of. I get a whole lot of people who query "Is
this still available?" and then never respond when I say yes. You could wonder
why they waste their time and yours, but the truth is the item has slightly
caught their interest but isn't nearly compelling enough for them to really do
anything.

If that guy needed your wheels and tires he would have broken the speed records
getting to your house, and showed up with cash. That's the kind of buyer you
troll for on craigslist.

The thing is just to accept things the way they are and not get upset about it.

Sometimes as a buyer when I perceive desperation on the part of the seller, I
ask them to deliver an item, or meet me partway. Sometimes it even works out.
But then I rarely respond unless I'm genuinely interested in something.

Grant

But since I want them gone and he was willing to spend $50 on them,
Ill give them to him free, no charge, gratis if he drives over and
picks them up, as I dont often see too many vehicles that get 3 miles
per gallon on the hiway and it would be fun to look at.

Ive not heard from the ****er yet.


I've bought a few things from Craigslist. And I would NEVER do that to
a seller: "diddle" the price or expect a seller to deliver for
nothing.

Frankly, I was astounded when you offered to deliver my welder for
nothing!

I had only 1 bad experience with a Craigslist seller and several good
ones. The bad experience involved a container load of tools. The
seller sounded desperate - willing to unload his container lot by the
pound at scrap prices. When I tried to set up a meeting to see what he
had, the guy got VERY strange and told me he needed to check the
location once again and would call me back in a couple of hours. He
never did.

I have to assume that the stuff was stolen.

All in all, I prefer the eBay model over Cragslist but I will continue
to look both places.

Gary

In article ,
Grant Erwin wrote:

The thing is just to accept things the way they are and not get upset about
it.

Not knowing whether or not Gunner did to begin with, be sure to post
specifically where you are (what town, neighborhood if it's a city, or
which end of what county if the town is too precise for your paranoia).
This both filters out the people at the wrong end of the catchbasin who
don't want to drive that far and can admit that to themselves without
bothering you, and causes real buyers to pay more attention to your ad
(as a lot of the spam/phishing crap that makes it onto craigslist tends
to have either no location, or a "location" which is the same as the
name of the particular list).

As a buyer, I find craigslist a LOT better than ebay, as I can go look
at the stuff, and do a cash-on-the-barrelhead transaction. I will
occasionally inquire where something is if it's sufficiently interesting
(and not mentioned), but if it's too far to drive (my time trumps the
gas money for that factor) I won't bother (nor will I ask the seller to
deliver - since people who ask for delivery are likely to be scammers
anyway). OTOH, if it's something I want that's in range, I'm there with
cash ASAP.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Ignoramus31502 wrote:
Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.

Not my experience. I just sold a nice lathe and a nice antique tractor
on the DFW Craiglist. Inquiries were numerous and pleasant, both items
sold fairly promptly. Made a few new friends too.

And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:12:07 -0500, Rex wrote:
Ignoramus31502 wrote:
Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.

Not my experience. I just sold a nice lathe and a nice antique tractor
on the DFW Craiglist. Inquiries were numerous and pleasant, both items
sold fairly promptly. Made a few new friends too.

Good for you, my experience has been different, though I do not mind
Craigslisters as buyers -- only reporting what I learned.

And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

"Ignoramus3635" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:12:07 -0500, Rex wrote:
Ignoramus31502 wrote:
Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.

Not my experience. I just sold a nice lathe and a nice antique tractor
on the DFW Craiglist. Inquiries were numerous and pleasant, both items
sold fairly promptly. Made a few new friends too.

Good for you, my experience has been different, though I do not mind
Craigslisters as buyers -- only reporting what I learned.

And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

Gunner wrote:

Geeze..some peoples kids.....
Hummm...sounds like a couple folks here who have been offered free
machines in good working condition who wanted em delivered several
hundred miles away.....

Gunner

Yep! My dad had a saying. "Is the corn shelled" It was supposed
to been the reply to a farmer who offered some corn to a down and
out (peter tumbeldown) neighbor.
Some people are verry hard to please. :-)
...lew...

....
And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

I had a catch filled in on my Mini14 paper punch so it would punch
automatically. The one time I had two legged varmints in the sales building,
I punched 30 holes in about five seconds. The varmints scattered real fast,
so hole punches make good varmint repellent also.

Karl

Karl Townsend wrote:

...
And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

I had a catch filled in on my Mini14 paper punch so it would punch
automatically. The one time I had two legged varmints in the sales building,
I punched 30 holes in about five seconds. The varmints scattered real fast,
so hole punches make good varmint repellent also.

Karl

Anyone have a Browning BAR 7mm R.M. masonry drill for sale cheap?

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:17:58 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote:

...
And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

I had a catch filled in on my Mini14 paper punch so it would punch
automatically. The one time I had two legged varmints in the sales building,
I punched 30 holes in about five seconds. The varmints scattered real fast,
so hole punches make good varmint repellent also.

Karl

Anyone have a Browning BAR 7mm R.M. masonry drill for sale cheap?

I have a steel punch in this size, however it is not for sale.

i

Ignoramus31502 wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:17:58 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote:

...
And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

I had a catch filled in on my Mini14 paper punch so it would punch
automatically. The one time I had two legged varmints in the sales building,
I punched 30 holes in about five seconds. The varmints scattered real fast,
so hole punches make good varmint repellent also.

Karl

Anyone have a Browning BAR 7mm R.M. masonry drill for sale cheap?

I have a steel punch in this size, however it is not for sale.

i

I guess you aren't familiar with Browning tools...

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:56:37 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus31502 wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:17:58 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote:

...
And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

I had a catch filled in on my Mini14 paper punch so it would punch
automatically. The one time I had two legged varmints in the sales building,
I punched 30 holes in about five seconds. The varmints scattered real fast,
so hole punches make good varmint repellent also.

Karl

Anyone have a Browning BAR 7mm R.M. masonry drill for sale cheap?

I have a steel punch in this size, however it is not for sale.

i

I guess you aren't familiar with Browning tools...

Mine is not Browning. Yes, indeed I am not familiar. if I recall
correctly, mine is a Mossberg.

i

Ignoramus31502 wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:56:37 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus31502 wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:17:58 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote:

...
And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

i

I have a Ruger Mini-14 .223" paper punch for sale.

I had a catch filled in on my Mini14 paper punch so it would punch
automatically. The one time I had two legged varmints in the sales building,
I punched 30 holes in about five seconds. The varmints scattered real fast,
so hole punches make good varmint repellent also.

Karl

Anyone have a Browning BAR 7mm R.M. masonry drill for sale cheap?

I have a steel punch in this size, however it is not for sale.

i

I guess you aren't familiar with Browning tools...

Mine is not Browning. Yes, indeed I am not familiar. if I recall
correctly, mine is a Mossberg.

i

Ah. Check them out some time, very nice piece of metalworking.

Ignoramus3635 wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:12:07 -0500, Rex wrote:
Ignoramus31502 wrote:
Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.
Not my experience. I just sold a nice lathe and a nice antique tractor
on the DFW Craiglist. Inquiries were numerous and pleasant, both items
sold fairly promptly. Made a few new friends too.

Good for you, my experience has been different, though I do not mind
Craigslisters as buyers -- only reporting what I learned.

And I've bought a bunch of stuff on CL in the last year. Mostly
firearms, despite the *cough* ban. Pretty amusing some of the ways
people get around that.

"Paper Puncher for sale. Makes holes approx .223 diamter. black."

Very funny and creative. Tangentially, maybe it is time for me to look
into .223 paper punchers, which I avoided to date, for reasons that
may not apply any more (more money).

The build-it-yourself AR hobby is a pretty big deal. Buy a piece at a
time if you are a bargain hunter. mix and match components for an
infinite number of variations. For extra credit (and metalworking
content), buy a forged blank lower for $25 and mill it into a receiver.
Much fun to be had.

In article , Gunner
wrote:

In my continuing effort to clean out the Stacks O Stuff, I
occasionally put things on Craigslist.

I posted a set of 4 tires and rims for pre 1966 VWs..the open center
type. $50 for a set of 4, just to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
Good tires and wheels.

Guy emails me, wants photos. So I sent em to him.

He apparently lives over in Bakersfield, a 32 mile drive.

He then asks if I can deliver them. Free.

I say my wife is over there a couple times a week, but he is sure
asking a lot for $50.

He emails back all ****y, that it costs him $50 to drive the 64 mile
round trip, and the tires and rims arent worth $100 to him.

So I email him back and tell him that its a bit much asking my
handicapped wife to load two tires in her car, deliver them, then make
a return trip with two more, all for free.

But since I want them gone and he was willing to spend $50 on them,
Ill give them to him free, no charge, gratis if he drives over and
picks them up, as I dont often see too many vehicles that get 3 miles
per gallon on the hiway and it would be fun to look at.

Ive not heard from the ****er yet.

Geeze..some peoples kids.....
Hummm...sounds like a couple folks here who have been offered free
machines in good working condition who wanted em delivered several
hundred miles away.....

Gunner

CL has been great in my experience (both buying and selling). I prefer it
over EBAY.

Here is an amusing post that is also related to this NG:


http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/398050816.html


/Enjoy,

AG

Rex wrote:

The build-it-yourself AR hobby is a pretty big deal. Buy a piece at a
time if you are a bargain hunter. mix and match components for an
infinite number of variations. For extra credit (and metalworking
content), buy a forged blank lower for $25 and mill it into a receiver.
Much fun to be had.


When I picked up my bridgeport this april, I looked into the scrap dumpsters
at the seller. Tons of scrap AR upper and lower forgings along with
trigicon? scope housings. I should have asked for a few but I figured they
wouldn't give me any. Still... Something to add to my list of regrets.

Wes

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:38:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:53:47 -0500, the renowned Ignoramus31502
wrote:

Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.

i

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...gslist17m.html


ROTFLMAO. It is rather funny, though, I imagine, not to the person
whose house was stripped.

i

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:53:47 -0500, the renowned Ignoramus31502
wrote:

Craigslisters are, on average, less intelligent, less polite, and less
punctual than eBayers. That has been my finding.

i

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...gslist17m.html


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

A friend of mine had posted a free ad to get rid of a bunch of his kids baby
toys that had become clutter. He got an e-mail from a woman scolding him
for not donating them to a women's shelter. He fired her back an e-mail
suggesting that if that was a cause near to her that she was welcome to pick
up the stuff and donate it to any charity that she felt was worthy.

About 2 hours later she sent another scolding asking him why he had not
taken down the free ad yet. He then did a google search on her e-mail
address and found out that she was a real-estate agent listing high end
homes. He sent her an email via one of her web pages and offered to deliver
all of the toys his son had grown out of if she was willing to convert the
property into a home for battered women and unwed mothers.

For some reason the badgering about his giving away free stuff stopped.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?


"Gunner" wrote in message
...
In my continuing effort to clean out the Stacks O Stuff, I
occasionally put things on Craigslist.

I posted a set of 4 tires and rims for pre 1966 VWs..the open center
type. $50 for a set of 4, just to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
Good tires and wheels.

Guy emails me, wants photos. So I sent em to him.

He apparently lives over in Bakersfield, a 32 mile drive.

He then asks if I can deliver them. Free.

I say my wife is over there a couple times a week, but he is sure
asking a lot for $50.

He emails back all ****y, that it costs him $50 to drive the 64 mile
round trip, and the tires and rims arent worth $100 to him.

So I email him back and tell him that its a bit much asking my
handicapped wife to load two tires in her car, deliver them, then make
a return trip with two more, all for free.

But since I want them gone and he was willing to spend $50 on them,
Ill give them to him free, no charge, gratis if he drives over and
picks them up, as I dont often see too many vehicles that get 3 miles
per gallon on the hiway and it would be fun to look at.

Ive not heard from the ****er yet.

Geeze..some peoples kids.....
Hummm...sounds like a couple folks here who have been offered free
machines in good working condition who wanted em delivered several
hundred miles away.....

Gunner