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Large 304 stainless steel "washer"
I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions.
OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Abrasha wrote:
I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Sounds like an easy job for any shop that has a plasma cutter, CNC or manual with a circle jig. Plasma is much cheaper than laser and produces a much better cut than oxy/acet aka flame cut. Pete C. |
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"Abrasha" wrote in message . .. I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com you cannot cut stainless with an oxy/acetelyne flame, must use plasma or laser. |
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you cannot cut stainless with an oxy/acetelyne flame,
must use plasma or laser. Or water jet. |
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I could to that easily. Half inch is on my edge though. Best to find some CNC guy with a 1260 Hypertherm
or such - I am told I can cut 1/2 and messy cut higher. How perfect are the edges ? - is it a surface flat or is it show stuff. I could cut and let you clean the edges as needed. Grinding or hammer/flat steel edge rod... :-) Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Abrasha wrote: I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Abrasha" wrote in message . .. I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com It will have to be plasma or laser cut. You can't flame cut stainless steel. Tom |
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Abrasha wrote:
I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. I meant to say "plasma cut" instead of "flame cut", my bad. As far as the responses I have received are concerned, with all do respect, I don't care how it's done. What I need is a price quote or the name and phone number of a place in the San Francisco Bay Area that can do this for me. I have not been able to find any leads yet. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Abrasha:
Try these guys -- their brochure says they offer both abrasive water-jet and plasma cutting in the size range you need, for nickel alloys and stainless steel. They apparently have a San Francisco office. http://www.twmetals.com/contact/High...nce_Alloys.pdf Regards, Bob |
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What are you making? A bracelet for King Kong?
Regards, Bob |
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Abrasha: Try these guys -- their brochure says they offer both abrasive water-jet and plasma cutting in the size range you need, for nickel alloys and stainless steel. They apparently have a San Francisco office. http://www.twmetals.com/contact/High...nce_Alloys.pdf Regards, Bob Thanks, I'll give them a call on Monday. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Bob wrote:
What are you making? A bracelet for King Kong? Regards, Bob I am making a decorative "ceiling flange", to bridge the gap, between a new stainless steel fireplace flue and the edge of the hole in the wooden ceiling through which this flue passes. Here is a before picture. http://www.abrasha.com/misc/ceiling%20gap.htm Please note, that this is the old flue. It has terra cotta inside of galvanized steel. The new flue will be a galvanized steel flue, inside a 14 ga stainless steel sleeve around which this ceiling flange will be installed. The new flue will have a smaller diameter than the old one, so the gap in the photo will be wider. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Abrasha wrote: Bob wrote: What are you making? A bracelet for King Kong? Regards, Bob I am making a decorative "ceiling flange", to bridge the gap, between a new stainless steel fireplace flue and the edge of the hole in the wooden ceiling through which this flue passes. Here is a before picture. http://www.abrasha.com/misc/ceiling%20gap.htm Please note, that this is the old flue. It has terra cotta inside of galvanized steel. The new flue will be a galvanized steel flue, inside a 14 ga stainless steel sleeve around which this ceiling flange will be installed. The new flue will have a smaller diameter than the old one, so the gap in the photo will be wider. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Good grief! If that's what it's for why on earth do you need .5" thick SS? Surely something in a much lighter gauge would be just fine. I'm big on overkill, but even I wouldn't go that overboard. Pete C. I knew someone was going to mention that. I know I could get this in 14 ga or 10 ga and be done with it. However, 1/2" will look a great deal better. A thin one will just look wimpy, and a thicker one will look just right. It's all about aesthetics, not just function. I will post a picture when it's done. I know the plate will weigh about 25 lbs, so it will be hollowed out from the back, to reduce the weight to about 10 lbs, which will help a great deal during installation. So why don't I have the whole thing fabricated out of thinner stainless steel sheet? Cost. The fabrication of such a plate, i.e. a 14 ga sheet welded onto 14 ga ring and cleaned up, and then drilled with a 6 hole bolt circle will cost about 5 times as much as a machined 1/2" stainless steel washer. I have quotes for that already. I am now just trying to get the raw material as cheaply as possible. I already have the machinist lined up who will face both sides of the plate, which will most likely be warped from the heat of plasma cutting, trim the OD and ID to spec and hollow out the back and drill and countersink the holes for the screws. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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It will, of course, have your signature inlaid gold ring and rivets...?
Even if you forego the ring, I don't see how you could possibly resist a nice triangular arrangement of gold rivets. Probably need, what, about 1" thick rod to keep them in scale? Seriously, it might make sense to just forget machining the back and save the bucks, other than drilling the mounting holes -- the difference in weight isn't going to make all that much difference, given you will need to fasten it to the framing in any case. And if you get it water-jet cut, there won't be any distortion. I'm not sure what is cheaper with that size stock, plasma or water-jet, but not machining it might make up the difference in any case. Might not distort even with a plasma cutter -- you see that fancy scroll-work CNC cut stuff all the time, and it doesn't warp, although of course it's much thinner than 1/2 inch stock. .. Regards, Bob |
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Abrasha wrote:
Pete C. wrote: Abrasha wrote: Bob wrote: What are you making? A bracelet for King Kong? Regards, Bob I am making a decorative "ceiling flange", to bridge the gap, between a new stainless steel fireplace flue and the edge of the hole in the wooden ceiling through which this flue passes. Here is a before picture. http://www.abrasha.com/misc/ceiling%20gap.htm Please note, that this is the old flue. It has terra cotta inside of galvanized steel. The new flue will be a galvanized steel flue, inside a 14 ga stainless steel sleeve around which this ceiling flange will be installed. The new flue will have a smaller diameter than the old one, so the gap in the photo will be wider. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Good grief! If that's what it's for why on earth do you need .5" thick SS? Surely something in a much lighter gauge would be just fine. I'm big on overkill, but even I wouldn't go that overboard. Pete C. I knew someone was going to mention that. I know I could get this in 14 ga or 10 ga and be done with it. However, 1/2" will look a great deal better. A thin one will just look wimpy, and a thicker one will look just right. It's all about aesthetics, not just function. I will post a picture when it's done. I know the plate will weigh about 25 lbs, so it will be hollowed out from the back, to reduce the weight to about 10 lbs, which will help a great deal during installation. So why don't I have the whole thing fabricated out of thinner stainless steel sheet? Cost. The fabrication of such a plate, i.e. a 14 ga sheet welded onto 14 ga ring and cleaned up, and then drilled with a 6 hole bolt circle will cost about 5 times as much as a machined 1/2" stainless steel washer. I have quotes for that already. I am now just trying to get the raw material as cheaply as possible. I already have the machinist lined up who will face both sides of the plate, which will most likely be warped from the heat of plasma cutting, trim the OD and ID to spec and hollow out the back and drill and countersink the holes for the screws. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Have you considered making it something other than round? Hexagon or octagon where it could be bent from lighter gauge sheet and only have a few seams to weld vs. an entire perimeter? Do you have any sort of tech schools in the area? Perhaps it could be fab'd as a class project as low cost (either design). Pete C. |
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Abrasha wrote:
I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Most good steel supply companys have a plasma burning table to cut shapes. The cost of cutting at the supplyer I deal with is next to nothing , probably 5 bucks for cutting the plate you need. John |
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Now Pete put up another one - a 7 sided or 9 or - maybe an eyebrow shape on one side
or both long sides :-) CAD is wonderful like that - did a foot ball looking C with T A&M within the T bridging and below the A&M - the ampersand within the T. I do ovals by doing a minor circle and then changing the height - a tall oval. Rotate as needed. Been doing CAD for so many years in IC's and PCB - now to plasma cut the various metals. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Pete C. wrote: Abrasha wrote: Pete C. wrote: Abrasha wrote: Bob wrote: What are you making? A bracelet for King Kong? Regards, Bob I am making a decorative "ceiling flange", to bridge the gap, between a new stainless steel fireplace flue and the edge of the hole in the wooden ceiling through which this flue passes. Here is a before picture. http://www.abrasha.com/misc/ceiling%20gap.htm Please note, that this is the old flue. It has terra cotta inside of galvanized steel. The new flue will be a galvanized steel flue, inside a 14 ga stainless steel sleeve around which this ceiling flange will be installed. The new flue will have a smaller diameter than the old one, so the gap in the photo will be wider. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Good grief! If that's what it's for why on earth do you need .5" thick SS? Surely something in a much lighter gauge would be just fine. I'm big on overkill, but even I wouldn't go that overboard. Pete C. I knew someone was going to mention that. I know I could get this in 14 ga or 10 ga and be done with it. However, 1/2" will look a great deal better. A thin one will just look wimpy, and a thicker one will look just right. It's all about aesthetics, not just function. I will post a picture when it's done. I know the plate will weigh about 25 lbs, so it will be hollowed out from the back, to reduce the weight to about 10 lbs, which will help a great deal during installation. So why don't I have the whole thing fabricated out of thinner stainless steel sheet? Cost. The fabrication of such a plate, i.e. a 14 ga sheet welded onto 14 ga ring and cleaned up, and then drilled with a 6 hole bolt circle will cost about 5 times as much as a machined 1/2" stainless steel washer. I have quotes for that already. I am now just trying to get the raw material as cheaply as possible. I already have the machinist lined up who will face both sides of the plate, which will most likely be warped from the heat of plasma cutting, trim the OD and ID to spec and hollow out the back and drill and countersink the holes for the screws. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Have you considered making it something other than round? Hexagon or octagon where it could be bent from lighter gauge sheet and only have a few seams to weld vs. an entire perimeter? Do you have any sort of tech schools in the area? Perhaps it could be fab'd as a class project as low cost (either design). Pete C. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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John wrote:
Abrasha wrote: I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Most good steel supply companys have a plasma burning table to cut shapes. The cost of cutting at the supplyer I deal with is next to nothing , probably 5 bucks for cutting the plate you need. John Great. Do you know of any "good steel supply companies" in the San Francisco Bay Area that might be able to do just that? -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:
Now Pete put up another one - a 7 sided or 9 or - maybe an eyebrow shape on one side or both long sides :-) CAD is wonderful like that - did a foot ball looking C with T A&M within the T bridging and below the A&M - the ampersand within the T. I do ovals by doing a minor circle and then changing the height - a tall oval. Rotate as needed. Been doing CAD for so many years in IC's and PCB - now to plasma cut the various metals. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder I just added a Hypertherm Powermax 1000 to my collection of toys, haven't got in on CNC yet, but will soon. My current project is upgrading power to my shop. Pete C. |
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Abrasha wrote:
John wrote: Abrasha wrote: I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Most good steel supply companys have a plasma burning table to cut shapes. The cost of cutting at the supplyer I deal with is next to nothing , probably 5 bucks for cutting the plate you need. John Great. Do you know of any "good steel supply companies" in the San Francisco Bay Area that might be able to do just that? -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Nope, only in PA. and thereabouts. John |
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Waterjet will give you an extremely nice cut. You can do the washer, and any holes you need drilled all in one operation. There will be absolutely no distortion, and the edge will have a nice sand-blasted finish. It will probably be more expensive than plasma, though. There are zillions of waterjet shops around. For a list of some of them, visit: http://www.waterjets.org/waterjet_jobshops.html For even more (but you have to phone in), visit: http://www.omax.com/job_shop_match.html - Carl. John wrote: Abrasha wrote: John wrote: Abrasha wrote: I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Most good steel supply companys have a plasma burning table to cut shapes. The cost of cutting at the supplyer I deal with is next to nothing , probably 5 bucks for cutting the plate you need. John Great. Do you know of any "good steel supply companies" in the San Francisco Bay Area that might be able to do just that? -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Nope, only in PA. and thereabouts. John |
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Have you tried Bayshore Metals? I think they have a CC plasma table...
Andy or Steve will be able to let you know. Regards, Peter "Abrasha" wrote in message . .. I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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I cut some 14 ga 304L today - nice cut. Used 40 amps and there was a little
whisker on the bottom and the normal brown line where it went through the extreme temps. It is likely doable with a large enough plasma cutter. Use fine cut (current density!) the small beam carries all of the current. I had spray 3' long under it - but no real problem. Nominal edge work is needed - the edge itself is black. Oxide I suppose. So water jet isn't mandatory - but is a good choice. Water jet does give some swarf on the edge - not as perfect as most think. Normally they use man made semi-precious stone - garnet... spinel... Martin - wish I had one and the building it takes to house. Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Carl wrote: Waterjet will give you an extremely nice cut. You can do the washer, and any holes you need drilled all in one operation. There will be absolutely no distortion, and the edge will have a nice sand-blasted finish. It will probably be more expensive than plasma, though. There are zillions of waterjet shops around. For a list of some of them, visit: http://www.waterjets.org/waterjet_jobshops.html For even more (but you have to phone in), visit: http://www.omax.com/job_shop_match.html - Carl. John wrote: Abrasha wrote: John wrote: Abrasha wrote: I need a large 304 stainless steel washer, with the following dimensions. OD 21.5", ID 14.625" Thickness .5". Preferably flame cut, because laser cutting is a great deal more expensive. So much so that it might get too expensive for my needs. Can anyone give me a price quote, or where I should go for this in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks in advance. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Most good steel supply companys have a plasma burning table to cut shapes. The cost of cutting at the supplyer I deal with is next to nothing , probably 5 bucks for cutting the plate you need. John Great. Do you know of any "good steel supply companies" in the San Francisco Bay Area that might be able to do just that? -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Nope, only in PA. and thereabouts. John ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Easy on a plasma table.
I'd think design needs to think on this - perhaps a unique shape - like a diamond in the sky - when someone looks at it - they smile not just see something 'functional' and assume it was someones standard part. Something like a fan blade with lobes would be interesting - Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder wrote: It could be done with a good sized plasma cutter and a template made of something like OSB. Dan ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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