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Hi Guys,
I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. |
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"JB" wrote in message ... Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Lots of good info on Monarch lathes at the Practical Machinist web site, which is a web-based forum and has searchable archives. Google should find it pretty easily. Mike |
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Hey Joe,
Only seen two that I recall. Both seemed OK, certainly much better quality than say a Grizzly or other like that, but not as nice as maybe a TOS. Lots of Lagun mills around, and they rate better than an actual Bridgeport. Take care/ Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:02:30 -0400, "JB" wrote: Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. |
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:02:30 -0400, "JB" wrote:
Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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Thanks Gunner. I appreciate you sharing your sentiments. I continue to
read previous posts on Google. Opinions are all over the board in regards to Asian import lathes and mills. Joe.. "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:02:30 -0400, "JB" wrote: Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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I would be very wary of any used machinery or used car dealer that told you
that one is his favorite. gary "JB" wrote in message ... Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. |
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Hi Gary,
In fairness to the dealer, he did not say it was his favorite. He said he like them a lot. It was my observation that with a shop full of machinery, he used a Lagun lathe for his needs. Thanks for the input. Joe... "Gary Owens" wrote in message m... I would be very wary of any used machinery or used car dealer that told you that one is his favorite. gary "JB" wrote in message ... Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. |
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Gunner wrote:
Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Just out of interest, what's your objection to the Bridgeports? Some day I want to get a mill, and a Bridgeport was pretty high on my preference list... Chris |
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 16:35:37 -0400, "JB" wrote:
Thanks Gunner. I appreciate you sharing your sentiments. I continue to read previous posts on Google. Opinions are all over the board in regards to Asian import lathes and mills. Keep in mind..that the term "Asian Import" is a catch phrase like "fast food" As you may well know..Miyano, Mori Seki, Whachoen are all " Aisian Imports" as is Mitiyoyo Not all Asian Imports are created alike. G Gunner Joe.. "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:02:30 -0400, "JB" wrote: Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:23:35 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy
wrote: Gunner wrote: Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Just out of interest, what's your objection to the Bridgeports? Some day I want to get a mill, and a Bridgeport was pretty high on my preference list... Chris While the controls are basicly the same..and indeed are in effect copies of Bridgeports..compared to a much beefier Lagun..a Bridgeport is Gumby. Much less rigid. And with any miller..rigidity is the key. A Gorton Mill Master ( 1-22) is still beefier yet, though it has some issues (like a shorter Z travel) and a lack of parts. Ive used all of them..own a Gorton, when I could have owned any of them. Shrug..if I get another..it will likely be a Lagun, simply because of the longer Z travel and ease in purchasing parts. In fact..I may have one shortly. Shrug. Depends on if the owner wants a newer one or not. Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:53:53 GMT, "Gary Owens"
wrote: I would be very wary of any used machinery or used car dealer that told you that one is his favorite. gary Would that also include if he said a Hardinge HLV-H or a 10EE were his favorites? Gunner "JB" wrote in message ... Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:23:35 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy wrote: Gunner wrote: Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Just out of interest, what's your objection to the Bridgeports? Some day I want to get a mill, and a Bridgeport was pretty high on my preference list... Chris While the controls are basicly the same..and indeed are in effect copies of Bridgeports..compared to a much beefier Lagun..a Bridgeport is Gumby. Much less rigid. And with any miller..rigidity is the key. A Gorton Mill Master ( 1-22) is still beefier yet, though it has some issues (like a shorter Z travel) and a lack of parts. Ive used all of them..own a Gorton, when I could have owned any of them. Shrug..if I get another..it will likely be a Lagun, simply because of the longer Z travel and ease in purchasing parts. In fact..I may have one shortly. Shrug. Depends on if the owner wants a newer one or not. Gunner Thanks for the opinion. I'll bear it in mind if I'm looking for a mill. When I used a Bridgeport I thought it was a nicely made machine, and didn't have any problems with accuracy, but then I was machining aluminium. If I had my own mill I would most likely be machining steel much of the time. A guy offered me a 60" machine at a good price a few years back (think it was a Cincinnati) but it seemed a bit big and I didn't have the cash to buy it there and then. Best wishes, Chris |
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Gunner,
I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Agreed. I had four LT-2's at my last shop. They all had nice hand flaked tables and alot of travel. Do they make them in Taiwan now ?? I think mine were all Spanish Mark |
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"Mark Mossberg" wrote in message ... Gunner, I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Agreed. I had four LT-2's at my last shop. They all had nice hand flaked tables and alot of travel. Do they make them in Taiwan now ?? I think mine were all Spanish Mark There's two large Laguns at the machine shop at work. The fellows there also told me those were Spanish. I wasn't aware that Laguns were Asian. |
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"gfulton" wrote in news:2c7b0$43499693$a2276371$920
@ALLTEL.NET: "Mark Mossberg" wrote in message ... Gunner, I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Agreed. I had four LT-2's at my last shop. They all had nice hand flaked tables and alot of travel. Do they make them in Taiwan now ?? I think mine were all Spanish Mark There's two large Laguns at the machine shop at work. The fellows there also told me those were Spanish. I wasn't aware that Laguns were Asian. They are Spanish. http://www.lagun.com/history.html -- Dan |
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On 10 Oct 2005 00:26:11 GMT, D Murphy wrote:
"gfulton" wrote in news:2c7b0$43499693$a2276371$920 : "Mark Mossberg" wrote in message ... Gunner, I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Agreed. I had four LT-2's at my last shop. They all had nice hand flaked tables and alot of travel. Do they make them in Taiwan now ?? I think mine were all Spanish Mark There's two large Laguns at the machine shop at work. The fellows there also told me those were Spanish. I wasn't aware that Laguns were Asian. They are Spanish. http://www.lagun.com/history.html Ill have to check again..but the last several knee mills I paid any attention two, were badged Taiwan. Perhaps they are like Delta products? Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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I thought Lagun was made in Spain. see: http://www.lagun.com/history.html Were some made in China? Cheers, Kelley On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:12:40 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:02:30 -0400, "JB" wrote: Hi Guys, I have been checking the FAQ's and Google for information and opinions on Lagun Republic lathes. I am asking for advice and opinions from the members of this group. I currently own a South Bend Heave 10. I am a hobbyist and enjoy having quality machinery. I have looked for quite a while for used Monarch's (10EE) without much success. The machines I came across needed too much work and quite frankly, I was intimidated by the electrics and the problems associated with them. I read this group religiously and am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that people are willing to share. I am also confused by the many opinions expressed about the various lathe manufacturers. It seems that everyone has a favorite brand or model lathe and for the neophyte it can be quite confusing. Some love LeBlonds others hate them and that seems to be the case for most lathes. I went to a used machinery dealer recently and he had a Lagun/Republic lathe that he uses in his shop. He likes the machine a lot. It looks like a Clausing Colchester copy. I was impressed since he has many brand lathes in his shop but he chose this one for his use. It is an inch/metric machine. Any advice or comments are sincerely appreciated. Joe.. Decent lathes. Most are Taiwanese..some are Chinese. However..they are made very well, for the commercial manufacturing industry, so are lightyears ahead of a "consumer" lathe . I would rather own a Lagun knee mill, than any bridgeport. Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:18:31 -0700, Kelley Mascher
wrote: I thought Lagun was made in Spain. see: http://www.lagun.com/history.html Were some made in China? Cheers, Kelley Evidently some were indeed made in China..according to a post from someone who contacted Lagun Gunner Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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Gunner wrote in
: Ill have to check again..but the last several knee mills I paid any attention two, were badged Taiwan. Perhaps they are like Delta products? These days where anything is made is a crapshoot. Several well known Japanese builders are now making machines in China. The only reason I know about Lagun is that I saw the factory in Spain. They are actually in the Basque region which for the most part doesn't consider itself as a part of Spain. The Basque are an interesting culture to say the least. At the time I was there gunsmithing was a mandatory course in school. The Basque region is very industrialized and there are several machine tool builders in the area (Elgoibar and Eibar). They have a lot of capability and build some very fine equipment. They also make some of the best custom shotguns you'll ever lay eyes on, but in very small quantities. All in all a very pretty part of the world filled with good people and good food. The pace in the factories is very slow by our standards but the craftsmanship is very high. I'd go back in a minute if given the chance. -- Dan |
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